Looks like TIME is finally getting on board with ME.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 20, 2020 6:42 AM

https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

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Since the COVID-19 outbreak began to pick up steam in China in January, experts have been scrambling to get a handle on the disease and the way it behaves. But they have also warned that estimates are not exact, and that numbers are likely to shift over time. One key reason: people with milder versions of the illness are underrepresented in official case counts, since they may not be sick enough to seek medical attention or realize they have anything more than a cold. Some people, research now suggests, may get infected by SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, without showing any symptoms at all.

That means the total number of reported cases is very likely an underestimate—and by not counting many mild or asymptomatic cases, we’re likely overestimating the disease’s overall mortality rate.

In the U.S., where only seven tests have been administered per million residents, the mortality rate is above 5%.

lol

Only idiots panic without first looking at the bigger picture.

Prepare to feel even dumber over your behavior once we learn more.

You should feel ashamed of yourselves.

I look very much forward to telling you I told you so.

1KIKI

Monday, April 20, 2020 7:04 AM

FYI, comparing apples to apples, COVID is far worse per case than the Spanish Flu.

SECOND

Monday, April 20, 2020 7:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I look very much forward to telling you I told you so.

"If you don't get back to work now I don't get reelected." - Donald J. Trump

In other news: "Pathetic Minimum-Wage Worker Is Devastated About Losing Job That Only Paid Couple Hundred Dollars A Week Anyway"
https://local.theonion.com/pathetic-minimum-wage-worker-devastated-abo
ut-losing-jo-1842921420

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

Only idiots panic without first looking at the bigger picture.

"Damning Report Finds White House Ignored Skeletal Horsemen Galloping Through Sky As Early As January"
www.theonion.com/damning-report-finds-white-house-ignored-skeletal-hor
se-1842754580

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, April 20, 2020 1:35 PM

Originally posted by SIGNYM

Quote:
Even if it isn't more deadly, it has the capacity to infect a whole lot more people... by a factor of several thousand ... so even an "inconsequnetial" flu can cause a lot of death if it infects a lot of people. -January 26

I recall the swine flu that wasn't. SARS, tho deadly, apparently mutated to a less virulent form. But apparently the R-naught of this virus is extraordinarily high, which means that even if it's not a "killer" virus an awful lot of ppl will get sick and some of them will die. I intend to wear a mask as well - January 26

One thing he did mention many times is that there are only a limited number of test kits... in his estimation, each hospital is getting only 100 kits per day, and that the hospitals are EXTREMELY reluctant to test people if they don't believe that the patient is seriously sick with flu.

IF TRUE, that does a couple of things ... it reduces the total number of diagnosed patients. At the same time, it drastically increases the measured death rate [case fatality rate], since asymptomatic/ mildly symptomatic people would never be tested positive. The only way to get a true death rate [case fatality rate] is near-universal testing of at least one sub-population. - January 31

These were my posts # 2,3, and 4 on the topic.

I have been -literally- posting about the lack of testing and its effect on case fatality rate since January. So, it looks like Time magazine finally caught up with ME.

But the reality is, it doesn't matter what the "case fatality rate" is. When bodies start stacking up in refrigerated trucks and ice rinks (in the USA, btw) because there isn't enough room for them, the death rate is just too damn high.

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#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 20, 2020 9:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Originally posted by SIGNYM

Quote:
Even if it isn't more deadly, it has the capacity to infect a whole lot more people... by a factor of several thousand ... so even an "inconsequnetial" flu can cause a lot of death if it infects a lot of people. -January 26

I recall the swine flu that wasn't. SARS, tho deadly, apparently mutated to a less virulent form. But apparently the R-naught of this virus is extraordinarily high, which means that even if it's not a "killer" virus an awful lot of ppl will get sick and some of them will die. I intend to wear a mask as well - January 26

One thing he did mention many times is that there are only a limited number of test kits... in his estimation, each hospital is getting only 100 kits per day, and that the hospitals are EXTREMELY reluctant to test people if they don't believe that the patient is seriously sick with flu.

IF TRUE, that does a couple of things ... it reduces the total number of diagnosed patients. At the same time, it drastically increases the measured death rate [case fatality rate], since asymptomatic/ mildly symptomatic people would never be tested positive. The only way to get a true death rate [case fatality rate] is near-universal testing of at least one sub-population. - January 31
These were my posts # 2,3, and 4 on the topic.

Then why are you letting your animal brain succumb to the panic the same Legacy Media who has been lying to you for years has been successfully instilling in millions of people who bent knee almost immediately to our government because of fear?

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I have been -literally- posting about the lack of testing and its effect on case fatality rate since January. So, it looks like Time magazine finally caught up with ME.

You just gave an example of three posts since January. Every day I've made this point. You seem to recognize that the numbers are bullshit, but you don't act as if they are.

Oh, and BTW... Nobody caught on to the joke. I thought for sure somebody would have actually recognized the date of the article as March 9th. I guess the part of the article I quoted where only 7 for every 1,000,000 Americans had been tested would have given that away.

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But the reality is, it doesn't matter what the "case fatality rate" is. When bodies start stacking up in refrigerated trucks and ice rinks (in the USA, btw) because there isn't enough room for them, the death rate is just too damn high.

I don't see any reason to fear that's going to happen.

We already know there are tests done where they're now suspecting that up to 80 times as many people have had it and were never counted because they were not sick.

What none of these tests show, however, is what the case would be in New York state, and in particular New York city. They're so far ahead of the curve that it it completely disingenuous to apply any of their numbers to the rest of the states in the country as a whole.

Johns Hopkins shows 40,683 deaths in the US as the time of writing this post.

Breakdown of deaths in New York, and how high they are on the County Charts.

1. 14,451 - New York City
2. 1,281 - Nassau County
5. 825 - Suffulk County
7. 743 - Westchester County
18. 334 - Rockland County
31. 211 - Orange County
39. 135 - Erie County
72. 71 - Monroe County
143. 28 - Dutchess County
147. 27 - Stuben County
170. 22 - Albany County
187. 19 - Onondaga County
212. 16 - Ulster County
222. 15 - Niagara County
232. 14 - Schenectady County

That's 18,192 deaths out of 40,683 total in New York State alone.

At this point I would propose that in terms of doing any legitimate studies or figuring any numbers we consider New York State an entirely different country, separate from the rest of America.

Not to make our numbers look better, but because the situation there, particularly at the hub of the world that is New

SIGNYM

Monday, April 20, 2020 10:46 PM

Quote:
SIGNY: Even if it isn't more deadly, it has the capacity to infect a whole lot more people... by a factor of several thousand ... so even an "inconsequnetial" flu can cause a lot of death if it infects a lot of people. -January 26

I recall the swine flu that wasn't. SARS, tho deadly, apparently mutated to a less virulent form. But apparently the R-naught of this virus is extraordinarily high, which means that even if it's not a "killer" virus an awful lot of ppl will get sick and some of them will die. I intend to wear a mask as well - January 26

One thing he did mention many times is that there are only a limited number of test kits... in his estimation, each hospital is getting only 100 kits per day, and that the hospitals are EXTREMELY reluctant to test people if they don't believe that the patient is seriously sick with flu.

IF TRUE, that does a couple of things ... it reduces the total number of diagnosed patients. At the same time, it drastically increases the measured death rate [case fatality rate], since asymptomatic/ mildly symptomatic people would never be tested positive. The only way to get a true death rate [case fatality rate] is near-universal testing of at least one sub-population. - January 31

These were my posts # 2,3, and 4 on the topic.

SIX: Then why are you letting your animal brain succumb to the panic the same Legacy Media who has been lying to you for years has been successfully instilling in millions of people who bent knee almost immediately to our government because of fear?

I'M NOT. But it must be the goal of every government to avert mass death, because otherwise the government itself will not survive. Even China is sensitive to the political instability that mass deaths cause.

This is like the Spanish flu, SIX. It's not any less serious. In some situations, where people live and work in crowds, mass death will result.

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SIGNY: I have been -literally- posting about the lack of testing and its effect on case fatality rate since January. So, it looks like Time magazine finally caught up with ME.

SIX: You just gave an example of three posts since January.

I didn't want to be redundant. I can find a few dozen of my posts saying the same thing, but why be boring?

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Every day I've made this point.

No, you have not. You've been denying that this will cause a lot of deaths, which it has. That's different.

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You seem to recognize that the numbers are bullshit, but you don't act as if they are.

The case fatality rate is meaningless, but the numbers of dead are not. Did you look at that chart that I posted? The one that shows a year of deaths per week from flu noodling around the bottom of the chart, and heart attack and cancer way at the top? Did you happen to notice how the "death per week" from Covid-19 starts at zero and zooms waaaaaaay up, way past all other causes of death, right past the top line (heart attack) in a matter of a few weeks?

Here's another opportunity, Mr Denial

https://i.insider.com/5e98cd7173d0c818b1055a52?width=1300&format=j
peg&auto=webp

Of course you didn't, because your response to that data would give lie to the bullshit that you've been posting.

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SIGNY: But the reality is, it doesn't matter what the "case fatality rate" is. When bodies start stacking up in refrigerated trucks and ice rinks (in the USA, btw) because there isn't enough room for them, the death rate is just too damn high]

SIX: I don't see any reason to fear that's going to happen.

It has already happened, SIX. You just didn't notice because you've got your head stuck up your ass. Since you don't seem to know how to read, here are pictures and videos

New York City Deploys 45 Mobile Morgues as Virus Strains Funeral Homes
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/01/nyregion/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:54 AM

lol

No.

NYC is doing fine, and they're the absolute worst case scenario. They didn't do anything to "flatten the curve" back when it was still possible, and as I stated later in my post (yanno, the facts and numbers you completely avoided replying to), it is likely that NYC has a 100% infection rate with the surrounding cities not far behind.

Big nothing burger.

There are NOT a lot of deaths. Period.

40k deaths since the beginning of March isn't shit. Nearly 8,000 people die every day in the US. Even if we were somehow able to double that amount of deaths for a SHORT period of time until everyone is infected from the Coomph, there's plenty of room to bury the bodies when these good for nothing politicians open everything back up for business and people are paid to dispose of them again.

Quit your bullshit, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 4:02 AM

What JACK means, Signy, is that it's not going to happen TO HIM. As far as he's concerned, since it's NOT HIM, that means it's not only not going to happen, it means it didn't even happen.

Way back when, when I was Rue, I spent YEARS arguing with facts and logic against these religious types. What I found out is that it never, ever works. So now I just have fun watching them go over the edge of sanity and into the great beyond.

arbeit macht frei .. eh JACK?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 4:19 AM

lol

Who's religious?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 5:00 AM

NYC is "doing fine"?

Wow, how do you even discuss such irrationality? Like I said SIX, discussing this with you is like discussing the shape of our planet with a flat-Earther.

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#WEARAMASK

1KIKI

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 5:58 AM

Like I said ... religious.

You can tell when someone is religious because facts bounce off the rim. Like with JACK.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 7:07 AM

lol

Yup. The God I don't pray to at the church I never go to told me that the Karens are full of shit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 10:11 PM

If Half the Country's Deaths Were in Montana, Would New York Shut Down?
.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/21/if_half_the_coun
trys_deaths_were_in_montana_would_new_york_shut_down_142995.html

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 21, 2020 10:15 PM

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/21/what_a_prolonged
_shutdown_will_cost_in_human_life.html

Quote:
A prolonged shutdown could bring tens of thousands of deaths through spikes in rates of suicide, heart attack, missed cancer diagnoses, domestic violence deaths, substance abuse, and more. We have evidence that these deaths are coming, and the shutdown is only a month old.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, April 22, 2020 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
NYC is "doing fine"?
Wow, how do you even discuss such irrationality?

You really can't.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, April 22, 2020 12:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Half the Country's Deaths Were in Montana, Would New York Shut Down?

If... if... if...

If Montana had the same population density... and the same international traffic... and and and... then it would be New York. New York would still be New York though.

tsyp

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Half the Country's Deaths Were in Montana, Would New York Shut Down?

If... if... if...

If Montana had the same population density... and the same international traffic... and and and... then it would be New York. New York would still be New York though.

tsyp

I ain't the guy you have to worry about, buddy.

My life hasn't changed all that much, and I'm not worried about where my next meal is coming from. I've really got no reason to make a stink other than pointing out where everybody is fucking up.

But the civil disobedience has begun, and it's only going to grow the longer this goes on.

Fun times ahead. Bring your popcorn.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Half the Country's Deaths Were in Montana, Would New York Shut Down?

If... if... if...

If Montana had the same population density... and the same international traffic... and and and... then it would be New York. New York would still be New York though.

tsyp

I ain't the guy you have to worry about, buddy.

My life hasn't changed all that much, and I'm not worried about where my next meal is coming from. I've really got no reason to make a stink other than pointing out where everybody is fucking up.

But the civil disobedience has begun, and it's only going to grow the longer this goes on.

Fun times ahead. Bring your popcorn.

Still not convinced that you know how a virus works.

I missed where you said Trump was f*cking up. Yanno, getting his idiot followers to think they are empowered by him to go out and shoot up the town, hill jack style - especially in states with Dem governors.

Actually, never mind. He sent them out to rally with each other where they'll coof all over each other - problem solved, civil unrest taken care of. I can even imagine them going into the ICU and b*tching at the nurses, "Hoax! Don't touch me!" The only way to shut them up is to stick a hose down their throats - hope they leave the machines off.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Half the Country's Deaths Were in Montana, Would New York Shut Down?

If... if... if...

If Montana had the same population density... and the same international traffic... and and and... then it would be New York. New York would still be New York though.

tsyp

I ain't the guy you have to worry about, buddy.

My life hasn't changed all that much, and I'm not worried about where my next meal is coming from. I've really got no reason to make a stink other than pointing out where everybody is fucking up.

But the civil disobedience has begun, and it's only going to grow the longer this goes on.

Fun times ahead. Bring your popcorn.

Still not convinced that you know how a virus works.

I missed where you said Trump was f*cking up. Yanno, getting his idiot followers to think they are empowered by him to go out and shoot up the town, hill jack style - especially in states with Dem governors.

Actually, never mind. He sent them out to rally with each other where they'll coof all over each other - problem solved, civil unrest taken care of. I can even imagine them going into the ICU and b*tching at the nurses, "Hoax! Don't touch me!" The only way to shut them up is to stick a hose down their throats - hope they leave the machines off.

I'm pretty sure you don't know how THIS virus works.

Unless it's those wily geriatrics out there protesting while carrying their IV bags and ventilators with them, your fantasy scenario here where Trump voters die is nothing more than something you masturbate to at night, Cap'n.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:53 PM

436 deaths in NYC yesterday. Back on the 11th, we had celebrated 5 straight days of 700+ deaths.

There is no man-made "curve flattening" happening here. It's impossible in the City, and any attempt to do so was far too late.

New Yorkers literally live on top of each other in the City. Hardly any of them drive cars and use public transit. 25% of deaths in NYC were in old folks homes.

Based off of antibody testing and projections, it is very, very likely that 100% of New York City dwellers have been infected with The Coomph.

Open it back up and let people get back to their lives before they start tearing your city down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:38 PM

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the
-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

Quote:
Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response – antibodies – so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.” Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases — to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:27 PM

Quote:
JACK:
But the civil disobedience has begun ...

No ... not really. It's not a spontaneous mass uprising of unhappy citizens. It's being organized by political groups with a political agenda who are getting their comparatively few followers together, and egged on by Trump. Because that's Trump's Hail Mary pass to get out of the mess he created.

But yanno, if after a referendum, of course - because this is a democracy - the good people of any state decide they want to throw the doors open, I say more power to them! Just as long as they don't go begging the federal government for medical aid later.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
JACK:
But the civil disobedience has begun ...
No ... not really. It's not a spontaneous mass uprising of unhappy citizens. It's being organized by political groups with a political agenda who are getting their comparatively few followers together, and egged on by Trump. Because that's Trump's Hail Mary pass to get out of the mess he created.

Who says?

That's right. The same Legacy Media who told you that Russia got Trump elected for the last 3 1/2 years that you didn't believe.

You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

Quote:
But yanno, if after a referendum, of course - because this is a democracy - the good people of any state decide they want to throw the doors open, I say more power to them! Just as long as they don't go begging the federal government for medical aid later.

That's good. Maybe we can put that on the headstones of he mass graves for the hundreds of millions of people in 3rd world countries who could barely feed themselves when Western civilization was up and running and subsidizing their entire lives.

You are partly to blame for that when it happens.

Have a nice day, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
436 deaths in NYC yesterday. Back on the 11th, we had celebrated 5 straight days of 700+ deaths.

There is no man-made "curve flattening" happening here. It's impossible in the City, and any attempt to do so was far too late.

New Yorkers literally live on top of each other in the City. Hardly any of them drive cars and use public transit. 25% of deaths in NYC were in old folks homes.

Based off of antibody testing and projections, it is very, very likely that 100% of New York City dwellers have been infected with The Coomph.

SIX, stop making shit up. LINKS, please.

Quote:
Open it back up and let people get back to their lives before they start tearing your city down.
And please stop pretending that you care. When you're smarmy like that, it's just nauseating.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:29 PM

Fuck your links, Sigs.

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the
-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

Another non-fact from SIX.

The point of isolation isn't to "prevent" infection, it's to SLOW IT DOWN (a) medical facilities and resources aren't overwhelmed and (b) until treatment(s) can be developed.

It's a conceit ... oh, and a bad case of lying about someone else's goals ... to think that you can eliminate this virus thru social distancing.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:33 PM

Quote:
SIX:
You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

And when you have to reort to a libel that EVEN YOU know is untrue, you have totally lost the argument.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

1KIKI

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:33 PM

Blah blah blah blah ... That's all you got JACK. Endless nothing.

Meanwhile - let me state AGAIN I'm all for states reopening if a majority votes for it in a referendum. The only reasonable requirement I think should be that they don't get federal COVID-19 aid if it turns to shit.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SIX:
You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.
And when you have to reort to a libel that EVEN YOU know is untrue, you have totally lost the argument.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

How do I know it's untrue?

If you're not Russian, don't act like a Russian.

And, BTW... not libel. I dare Karen to take any of us to court on that one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck your links, Sigs.

And here's another example of SIX totally losing his shit because he got called out on posting made-up stuff, even tho he likes to pretend he's all about "facts".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck your links, Sigs.

And here's another example of SIX totally losing his shit because he got called out on posting made-up stuff, even tho he likes to pretend he's all about "facts".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

We'll see what is and what is not made up when I'm right about this, again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:40 PM

Quote:
SIX:
You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

SIGNY: And when you have to reort to a libel that EVEN YOU know is untrue, you have totally lost the argument.

SIX: How do I know it's untrue?
If you're not Russian, don't act like a Russian

And here is ISX doubling down in libel because he's lost the thread of the argument.

Quote:
SIX: And, BTW... not libel. I dare Karen to take any of us to court on that one.

And here is SIX saying that his lies aren't lies until someone takes him to court.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
JACK:
But the civil disobedience has begun ...
No ... not really. It's not a spontaneous mass uprising of unhappy citizens. It's being organized by political groups with a political agenda who are getting their comparatively few followers together, and egged on by Trump. Because that's Trump's Hail Mary pass to get out of the mess he created.

Who says?

That's right. The same Legacy Media who told you that Russia got Trump elected for the last 3 1/2 years that you didn't believe.

You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

Quote:
But yanno, if after a referendum, of course - because this is a democracy - the good people of any state decide they want to throw the doors open, I say more power to them! Just as long as they don't go begging the federal government for medical aid later.

That's good. Maybe we can put that on the headstones of he mass graves for the hundreds of millions of people in 3rd world countries who could barely feed themselves when Western civilization was up and running and subsidizing their entire lives.

You are partly to blame for that when it happens.

Have a nice day, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
SIX:
You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

SIGNY: And when you have to reort to a libel that EVEN YOU know is untrue, you have totally lost the argument.

SIX: How do I know it's untrue?
If you're not Russian, don't act like a Russian

#WEARAMASK
And here is ISX doubling down in libel because he's lost the thread of the argument.

ow do I know it's untrue?

If you're not Russian, don't act like a Russian.

Quote:
SIX: And, BTW... not libel. I dare Karen to take any of us to court on that one.
And here is SIX saying that his lies aren't lies until someone takes him to court.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Nope.

Here's 6ix saying that Karen's libel claims have been bullshit for years. I've never once wavered on that one.

You can take anybody to court about anything. It's not libel until she takes somebody to court and wins, which will never happen here. We don't use our real names, and nobody knows who we are. You can't libel a blog handle on a website that has 8 regular posters.

Fuck Karen and her lawsuits.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:43 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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JACK:
But the civil disobedience has begun ...
No ... not really. It's not a spontaneous mass uprising of unhappy citizens. It's being organized by political groups with a political agenda who are getting their comparatively few followers together, and egged on by Trump. Because that's Trump's Hail Mary pass to get out of the mess he created.

Who says?

That's right. The same Legacy Media who told you that Russia got Trump elected for the last 3 1/2 years that you didn't believe.

You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

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But yanno, if after a referendum, of course - because this is a democracy - the good people of any state decide they want to throw the doors open, I say more power to them! Just as long as they don't go begging the federal government for medical aid later.

That's good. Maybe we can put that on the headstones of he mass graves for the hundreds of millions of people in 3rd world countries who could barely feed themselves when Western civilization was up and running and subsidizing their entire lives.

You are partly to blame for that when it happens.

Have a nice day, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:46 PM

Maybe you can explain how an American state, like Georgia, reopening in the midst of COVID-19 is responsible for mass graves anywhere foreign on the planet.

arbeit macht frei - right Jack?

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:46 PM

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SIX:
You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

SIGNY: And when you have to reort to a libel that EVEN YOU know is untrue, you have totally lost the argument.

SIX: How do I know it's untrue?
If you're not Russian, don't act like a Russian

SIGNY: And here is ISX doubling down in libel because he's lost the thread of the argument.

SIX: And, BTW... not libel. I dare Karen to take any of us to court on that one.

SIGNY: And here is SIX saying that his lies aren't lies until someone takes him to court.

SIX: Nope.
Here's 6ix saying that Karen's libel claims have been bullshit for years. I've never once wavered on that one.

You can take anybody to court about anything. It's not libel until she takes somebody to court and wins, which will never happen here. We don't use our real names, and nobody knows who we are. You can't libel a blog handle on a website that has 8 regular posters. Fuck Karen and her lawsuits.

And here is SIX completely misunderstanding the simple concept of libel.

HEY, I can do this all day! As long as you keep posting made-up non-facts, lies, libel, faux concern, insults, and non-sequitors I can keep pointing it out!

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Maybe you can explain how an American state, like Georgia, reopening in the midst of COVID-19 is responsible for mass graves anywhere foreign on the planet.

arbeit macht frei - right Jack?

What the fuck are you talking about, Karen.

I'm talking about the entire world economy being shut down because people like you are terrified about getting a cold.

I made it VERY clear that there are hundreds of millions of people starving in third world countries on the very best days of the world economy, despite the fact that they get a rediculous amount of free shit from developed nations in the Western world.

The same Western World that still can't find a fucking roll of toilet paper on the shelves most days.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SIX:
You either are Russian, Karen, or somebody has given you a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

SIGNY: And when you have to reort to a libel that EVEN YOU know is untrue, you have totally lost the argument.

SIX: How do I know it's untrue?
If you're not Russian, don't act like a Russian

SIGNY: And here is ISX doubling down in libel because he's lost the thread of the argument.

SIX: And, BTW... not libel. I dare Karen to take any of us to court on that one.

SIGNY: And here is SIX saying that his lies aren't lies until someone takes him to court.

SIX: Nope.
Here's 6ix saying that Karen's libel claims have been bullshit for years. I've never once wavered on that one.

You can take anybody to court about anything. It's not libel until she takes somebody to court and wins, which will never happen here. We don't use our real names, and nobody knows who we are. You can't libel a blog handle on a website that has 8 regular posters. Fuck Karen and her lawsuits.

And here is SIX completely misunderstanding the simple concept of libel.

HEY, I can do this all day! As long as you keep posting made-up non-facts, lies, libel, faux concern, insults, and non-sequitors I can keep pointing it out!

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Get a fucking dictionary.

noun: libel; plural noun: libels

1. Law
a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.

Nothing anybody says here about anybody is damaging to anyone's reputation.

Even if it were, you apparently missed the "OR" part. Jury is still out on whether or not Karen had a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

I'm starting to wonder about you too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:56 PM

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kiki - But yanno, if after a referendum, of course - because this is a democracy - the good people of any state decide they want to throw the doors open, I say more power to them! Just as long as they don't go begging the federal government for medical aid later.

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JACK: That's good. Maybe we can put that on the headstones of he mass graves for the hundreds of millions of people in 3rd world countries who could barely feed themselves when Western civilization was up and running and subsidizing their entire lives.

You are partly to blame for that when it happens.

Have a nice day, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Maybe you can explain how an American state, like Georgia, reopening in the midst of COVID-19 is responsible for mass graves anywhere foreign on the planet.

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:02 PM

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SIX: We'll see what is and what is not made up when I'm right about this, again.

YOU CITED "STUDIES". Where ARE those studies", SIX?

Maybe you're pulling that famous rhetorical trick, citing a fictitious authority when the source of the opinion is .... your ass?

If you have an opinion, say it's YOURS. But at least back it up with SOME facts. After all, you're all about 'facts', right?

Now, here's my interpretation ...based on snippets of anecdotes, like the hotshot doctor in Bellevue posted by KIKI and SECOND, and the random serological study done in Massachesetts (which I heard about on Peak Prosperity but can find NO published reference online) I personally would not be surprised if the infection rate in NYC is in the mid-double digits. Maybe 40%, possibly higher. But I think NYC still has a ways to go in terms of deaths.

THAT DOES NOT APPLY ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE USA. Even studies with HIGH FALSE POSITIVE RATES don't show anywhere near double-digit infection rates, much less 50%+.

The high death rate, the overwhelmed hospital, overflowing morgues and mass graves is what social distancing is meant to avoid.

I know, I know, you jonesing for mass death so you can "come into your own".

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SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:05 PM

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Even if it were, you apparently missed the "OR" part. Jury is still out on whether or not Karen had a lobotomy in the last 6 weeks.

I'm starting to wonder about you too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And I'm starting to wonder about your drinking. You sound totally unhinged, and you're usually at least SOMEwhat hinged. What the hell happened that you got a case of the willies all of the sudden and need to take it out online?

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SIGNYM

Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:10 PM

And see, SIX, you magically shitted up your own thread with non-facts, made-up stuff, insults, libel, and trolling. It WAS an interesting discussion until then.

Do you supposed maybe you can get back to it, this time with truth?
But if your intent was to derail the discussion and make it all about you, well then- it worked! Congrats!

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1KIKI

Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Maybe you can explain how an American state, like Georgia, reopening in the midst of COVID-19 is responsible for mass graves anywhere foreign on the planet.

arbeit macht frei - right Jack?

Quote:
JACK:

What the fuck are you talking about, Karen.

I'm talking about the entire world economy being shut down because people like you are terrified about getting a cold.

I made it VERY clear that there are hundreds of millions of people starving in third world countries on the very best days of the world economy, despite the fact that they get a rediculous amount of free shit from developed nations in the Western world.

The same Western World that still can't find a fucking roll of toilet paper on the shelves most days.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The US didn't shut those countries down, JACK.

And my opinion is that US states should reopen if that's what people vote for.

What does that have to do with countries around the world?

Your argument is

1KIKI

Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:25 PM

But, I'd be happy to discuss the topic with facts ... and links ... and logic ... and a modicum of civility.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But, I'd be happy to discuss the topic with facts ... and links ... and logic ... and a modicum of civility.

....Talking to 6ix.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 24, 2020 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SIX: We'll see what is and what is not made up when I'm right about this, again.
YOU CITED "STUDIES". Where ARE those studies", SIX?

Maybe you're pulling that famous rhetorical trick, citing a fictitious authority when the source of the opinion is .... your ass?

I don't have to post links to studies every time I talk about them. I'm referencing studies that I've already linked in one of the gross amount of topics that are dedicated to this non-issue. Go find it. Or Google it.

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If you have an opinion, say it's YOURS. But at least back it up with SOME facts. After all, you're all about 'facts', right?

I don't have to post links to studies every time I talk about them. I'm referencing studies that I've already linked in one of the gross amount of topics that are dedicated to this non-issue. Go find it. Or Google it.

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Now, here's my interpretation ...based on snippets of anecdotes, like the hotshot doctor in Bellevue posted by KIKI and SECOND, and the random serological study done in Massachesetts (which I heard about on Peak Prosperity but can find NO published reference online) I personally would not be surprised if the infection rate in NYC is in the mid-double digits. Maybe 40%, possibly higher. But I think NYC still has a ways to go in terms of deaths.

OKAY. And toward the top of this thread somewhere buried in trolling is my interpretation.

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THAT DOES NOT APPLY ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE USA.

I said as much.

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Even studies with HIGH FALSE POSITIVE RATES don't show anywhere near double-digit infection rates, much less 50%+.

But Johns Hopkins shows pretty unimpressive death toll numbers in NYC given the severe overreaction of our nation and that of developed nations all over the world. That's just as true even at 40% or 50% as it is at 100% infection rate.

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The high death rate, the overwhelmed hospital, overflowing morgues and mass graves is what social distancing is meant to avoid.

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I know, I know, you jonesing for mass death so you can "come into your own".

I don't know what that means. You're putting it in quotes, but I never said those words.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 24, 2020 12:13 AM

Oh, and BTW I did get sidetracked by your tag team this morning...

NYC deaths in the previous 24 hour period as per Johns Hopkins was down to 182. Less than 200. Quite a bit less than 50% of the prior day's 436.

It was at 14,892 yesterday and only 15,074 this morning.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, April 24, 2020 9:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh, and BTW I did get sidetracked by your tag team this morning...

NYC deaths in the previous 24 hour period as per Johns Hopkins was down to 182. Less than 200. Quite a bit less than 50% of the prior day's 436.

It was at 14,892 yesterday and only 15,074 this morning.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I GUESS THAT MEANS THE LOCKDOWN IS WORKING.

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SIGNYM

Friday, April 24, 2020 9:42 AM

Quote:
signy: Now, here's my interpretation ...based on snippets of anecdotes, like the hotshot doctor in Bellevue posted by KIKI and SECOND, and the random serological study done in Massachesetts (which I heard about on Peak Prosperity but can find NO published reference online) I personally would not be surprised if the infection rate in NYC is in the mid-double digits. Maybe 40%, possibly higher. But I think NYC still has a ways to go in terms of deaths.

six: OKAY. And toward the top of this thread somewhere buried in trolling is my interpretation.

Nope! At the top of this thread as far as I can tell is where you cited "studies" ... studies, by the way, which have not been completed until today ... with no links whatsoever. You NEVER link any of your "facts" unless it's home improvement.

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SIGNY: Even studies with HIGH FALSE POSITIVE RATES don't show anywhere near double-digit infection rates, much less 50%+.-

SIX: But Johns Hopkins shows pretty unimpressive death toll numbers in NYC given the severe overreaction of our nation and that of developed nations all over the world. That's just as true even at 40% or 50% as it is at 100% infection rate.

What's "unimpressive" about it? It has become THE LEADING cause of death in just a couple of months. If you were in the middle of it, you'd probably feel diferently. As it is, I can only say that you lack imagination, or empathy, or both.

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SIGNY: The high death rate, the overwhelmed hospital, overflowing morgues and mass graves is what social distancing is meant to avoid. ... I know, I know, you jonesing for mass death so you can "come into your own".

SIX: I don't know what that means. You're putting it in quotes, but I never said those words.

I'm not attributing the quote to you, just the attitude. You resent old people. You want some kind of catastrophe to occur that would leave the "strong" and "healthy" (you) to be unscathed. Your pretense of caring about the finances of the average person is just that: a pretense, because if you REALLY cared about them you'd care whether they lived or died or were left with catastrophic medical bills. Instead, you resist even the most common-sense actions that people can take to protect themselves and others ... like wearing masks and hand-washing. Your pretense is about caring about "freedom" is just that: a pretense, for the same reasons.

Many posts go, I asked you to clarify, at least in your own mind, what your goal is for the actions that you're proposing, which are (as far as I can tell) damn the social isolation, damn the masks and handwashing, damn looking for a treatment, damn the testing, just open up the economy and let the weak and elderly die.

Is that about right?

If so, what's your goal?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 24, 2020 9:49 AM

Probably a good idea that you dumped the #STAYTHEFUCKHOME hashtag.

It's not trending very popular these days.

The amount of people who have died from this is laughable compared to the overreaction.

And no, the draconian measures that have infringed nearly every American are not the cause of deaths decreasing in NYC. Everybody there has gotten it already. They're running out of people who got it that are going to die.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, April 24, 2020 9:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Probably a good idea that you dumped the #STAYTHEFUCKHOME hashtag.

It's not trending very popular these days.

The amount of people who have died from this is laughable compared to the overreaction.

Oh, you mean the amount of people who died from the overreaction is greater than the number of people who died from the virus? LINKS PLEASE

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And no, the draconian measures that have infringed nearly every American are not the cause of deaths decreasing in NYC.

Yep, another non-fact from SIX, with another non-link to anything.

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SIX: Everybody there has gotten it already. They're running out of people who got it that are going to die.

Jeezus, you really do speak outta your ass, don't you?
No, not "everybody". There's been study to address that very point. Did you bother to read about it?
No?
And why not?

*****

So, SIX, what is your goal to just bulling forward without even masks and handwashing, to let the weak and elderly fall by the wayside? A form of genetic cleansing? A hope for depopulation? A niche that you might personally benefit from?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 24, 2020 11:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh, and BTW I did get sidetracked by your tag team this morning...

NYC deaths in the previous 24 hour period as per Johns Hopkins was down to 182. Less than 200. Quite a bit less than 50% of the prior day's 436.

It was at 14,892 yesterday and only 15,074 this morning.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I GUESS THAT MEANS THE LOCKDOWN IS WORKING.

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Guess not.

Today's count is 16,388, compared to yesterday's 15,074.

They just added 1,216 deaths to the NYC total in the last 24 hours.

They must have widened their parameters and added people who went into the hospital with a stubbed toe who ended up dying of a staph infection to bump the numbers now that opening everything back up has been picking up steam.

Keep being scared and obeying your masters, little sheep.

Oh... and BTW, Karen, if you weren't washing your hands before this bullshit you probably deserve to die. It shouldn't take a fake pandemic to make you wash your hands.

But I should know better than to think that idiots would know that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:48 AM

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JACK:
They must have widened their parameters and added people who went into the hospital with a stubbed toe who ended up dying of a staph infection to bump the numbers now that opening everything back up has been picking up steam.

Is that how you 'prove' you're right? By making things up out of thin air?

BTW, Los Angeles County had a similar jump of 1,100 new cases in one day. But that was caused by a backlogged laboratory submitting all its data in one transaction. It has nothing to do with actual cases going up in 24 hours.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:37 AM

I'm sure that's what it was.

Do Right, Be Right. :)