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Joss' fascination with torture ?

POSTED BY: TheSomnambulist
UPDATED: Monday, December 27, 2004 17:15
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Friday, December 24, 2004 12:02 PM

My response began by being about both a hypothetical, general "you" (different people who can watch torture scenes or not, for various reasons) and then about my own reactions, the "you" now addressed in your last post. So I don't think I've dodged the question.

The way the poster representing him/herself as Purplebelly phrased the questions has invited the debate to focus on Purplebellies reasons for saying what PB did. It would be disingenuous to pretend that this is an aberrant reaction. As to whether the Purplebelly construct has anything to do with who is really posting messages under that screen name, of course none of us can be certain about that.

Cardie

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Friday, December 24, 2004 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Cardie:
As to whether the Purplebelly construct has anything to do with who is really posting messages under that screen name, of course none of us can be certain about that.


Not only Purplebelly believes this

EDIT: I get even more confused on the SerenityMovie site

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Friday, December 24, 2004 4:22 PM

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
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EDIT: that's not to say I don't own a TV


What you said was "it may be that, regardless of domicile, I have the sensibilities of a middle-aged pinko-liberal of moderate education without a TV", which would lead one to believe that you yourself do not own a TV. But if this is an incorrect assumption, then that would lead me to assume also that you're neither middle-aged nor a pinko-liberal, have less or more than a "moderate education", and are not European, geographically or biologically. Oh, and that your posts on this thread are all a big wind-up.

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I use one of those computer thingees


I would find not owning a TV yet watching shows on your computer more hypocritical than not owning a TV yet watching shows at a friend's house. People who are against TV are not against the actual physical piece of technology that the media comes through, they object to the media itself (which, admittedly, is mostly crap). My dad hates current TV programming -- in fact destroyed our TV when I was small -- but he does have one now to watch movies, etc. But he rarely, if ever, watches anything but tapes or DVDs.
BUT he does have TV shows on DVD/tape. If he's watching a show produced for television broadcast,he's still watching TV. And even if he were watching it on a computer, he would still be watching TV -- he's watching a TV show. He's just not watching it on a TV. It's not as if that, in owning a computer, you don't have access to more total crap than is available through the television industry. Implying that you don't have a TV is just trying to be elitist. :sanctimonious:

Oh, there's not a smiley for that?

"I know your name, jackass!"

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Friday, December 24, 2004 4:31 PM

We might as well give up. This is like arguing with a really pretentious brick wall.
It's PB vs everybody else, so obviously it's his/her problem. We love Joss and we love War Stories. If PB thinks that's immoral, so be it. His/Her loss.



"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
... that would lead me to assume also that you're neither middle-aged nor a pinko-liberal, have less or more than a "moderate education", and are not European, geographically or biologically.

It could be that a guess was made of the profile of the majority poster, and that was inverted. Purplebelly's Denouement may have been a clue to the technique.

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:25 PM

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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
I would find not owning a TV yet watching shows on your computer more hypocritical than not owning a TV yet watching shows at a friend's house.

I love this idea. Does it have common currency?

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
My dad ...

You're among friends. We feel your pain. Let it out.

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:30 PM

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Originally posted by Gorramreavers:
31 M

Maine, USA

ReeQueen


"..it is my very favorite gun."



And, I "Were I not married I would take you in a manly fashion" "'Cause I'm pretty?" "'Cause you're pretty." (By which, of course, I mean, thank you - made my day!)

In the interests of fairness (edited so to not make my English make me look dumb):
38 (almost 39); F; married (three sons, the oldest of whom is in college); SLC UT; and, in the further interest of fairness, I am flirty but usually not intentionally. I'm a banter-fluff and I like people.

On a completely other note
I have a hypothesis I want to offer:

Since I am not the only one (duh, obviously!) who found "European sensibilities" and what followed to be un-ignorable, I can't help but wonder if there hasn't been some chain-yanking. Not that I don't believe PurpleBelly is sincere, but that he or she has, perhaps, gone over and above the bounds of merely supporting an argument. The tenacity kinda gave me a clue.

But, since I too can be tenacious (and have been), and I have been known to carry an argument further than necessary because of entertainment value, I can't but be entertained. I'm just used to being the yanker, not the yankee.

(Edited to add) Having just gone back through the thread, to read more carefully of what was posted yesterday - since I was all excited this morning about my epiphany! - I know I'm not the only one to come up with the same general theory. Just wanted to state that I am aware of that, and will not claim all the glory come Judgement Day.

"Today we get to meet the real you." Niska - War Stories

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:33 PM

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Originally posted by maugwai:
If PB thinks that's immoral, so be it.

That judgement isn't contained in this thread, because it hasn't been made. And would probably be off-topic. Does anyone have anything to say about Joss and torture? The original poster would probably like to know. How about the torture of characters with whom we do not identify?

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:37 PM

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Originally posted by ReeQueen:
Not that I don't believe PurpleBelly is sincere ...

There must be some gentlemen out there who can help the lady?

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