Real World Event Discussions

Some Covid-19 thoughts

POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
VIEWED: 301579
PAGE 38 of 384

Friday, April 17, 2020 11:27 PM

Quote:

IT'S POSITIVELY ALPINE!


The screenshots began to circulate on Delhi WhatsApp groups last week, captioned with varying expressions of disbelief. Having checked the air quality index, something of a sadistic morning ritual among residents of India’s capital, most could not believe their eyes.

Gone was the familiar menacing red banner, indicating how each intake of breath is really just a toxic blast on the lungs, replaced instead by a healthy, cheerful green. Could it really be that Delhi’s pollution levels now fell into the category of … “good”? “It’s positively alpine!” exclaimed one message.

A nationwide lockdown imposed across India on 24 March to stop the spread of the coronavirus – the largest lockdown of its kind attempted anywhere – has led to widespread chaos and suffering, especially among the country’s 300 million poor. Yet in Delhi, the world’s most polluted city, it has also resulted in some of the freshest air the capital has seen in decades.

It is a lockdown silver lining being repeated across the world, as toxic megacities such as Bangkok, Beijing, São Paulo and Bogotá, where varying coronavirus restrictions have been imposed, all reported an unprecedented decline in pollution. Yet it is countered with one cruel irony: with most residents of these cities strictly confined to their homes, few have any way to appreciate this newly fresh air, except through an open window or a during speedy trip to the supermarket.

In Delhi, air quality index (AQI) levels are usually a severe 200 on a good day (anything above 25 is deemed unsafe by World Health Organization). During peak pollution periods last year they soared well into a life-threatening 900 and sometimes off the measurable scale. But as Delhi’s 11m registered cars were taken off the roads and factories and construction were ground to a halt, AQI levels have regularly fallen below 20. The skies are suddenly a rare, piercing blue. Even the birdsong seems louder.

Dr Shashi Tharoor, a politician and author who has been vocal on environmental issues, said he hoped that it was a wake-up call. “The blissful sight of blue skies and the joy of breathing clean air provides just the contrast to illustrate what we are doing to ourselves the rest of the time,” said Tharoor. “Today the typical Delhi AQI hovers around 30 and one blissful afternoon, after a spurt of rain, it dropped to 7.”

“Seven,” Tharoor exclaimed again in disbelief. “In Delhi! Pure joy!”.

Tharoor’s sister Smita, who was visiting from the UK when the lockdown was imposed and found herself stuck in Delhi, was equally effusive. As someone with asthma, she said the city’s air, normally thick with pollution, was usually a health nightmare. But now: “The air is clear, the skies are blue. I see the evening stars with clarity and hear the chirruping of excited birds at this unexpected bonus they have received.”

While India’s powerful car lobby has long disputed that cars are a major cause of Delhi’s pollution, Sunita Narain, director of the Centre for Science and Environment, said the lockdown and resulting rapid drop in pollution showed once and for all just what a polluting role vehicles had in the city.

Narain also stressed that while she wished Delhi was like this “all the time”, adding: “I don’t want people to say ‘Oh, environmentalists are celebrating this lockdown:’ we are not. This is not the solution. But whatever the new normal is post-Covid-19, we have to make sure we take this breath of fresh air and think about the serious efforts we need to deal with pollution in Delhi.”

It is not just Delhi experiencing the clearest skies in years. As pollution dropped to its lowest level in three decades this week this week, residents of Jalandhar in Punjab woke up to an incredible sight in the distance: the Dhauladhar mountain range in Himachal Pradesh. The peaks, which are over 120 miles away, had not been sighted on the Punjab horizon for almost 30 y

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, April 17, 2020 11:47 PM

Quebec is calling for anyone with healthcare experience to come there. They need it. Almost a 1,000 cases since the Easter weekend. Ontario is holding off calling for help but they had a bad few days as well.

BC is still holding the line with the fewest cases over the Easter long weekend with 14. But most troubling for BC is a major outbreak in one of our Federal prisons in the Valley. 60 cases.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:41 AM

NYC, NJ, and MI (probably Detroit) are getting slammed now, too. I wonder if this is post-Spring Break/ post Mardi Gras infection coming home and blooming.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

THG
Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:45 AM

Heartland hotspots: A sudden rise in coronavirus cases is hitting rural states without stay-at-home orders

The test results came back on Easter Sunday. Tammy had been feeling "kind of crappy" when she went to her doctor in rural southeastern Oklahoma last week. A sign of possible pneumonia prompted her to get a coronavirus test later that day at the McCurtain County Health Department in Idabel.

When it came back positive, Tammy, who spoke on the condition that CNN not use her last name to protect her privacy, had already quarantined herself. Isolated, she decided to write her governor, Kevin Stitt, the first-term Republican and one of just 8 governors in the US to resist issuing a statewide stay-at-home-order. Tammy had voted for Stitt but she didn't agree with his decision.

Her message to him was simple: "Shut this mess down."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/heartland-hotspots-a-sudden-rise-in-
coronavirus-cases-is-hitting-rural-states-without-stay-at-home-orders/ar-BB12MRgf?ocid=msedgntp


T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:48 AM

Trump powerful. Very very strong and powerful. Sum very big wordz. Everybudy sez so. Nobudy saw this kuming. Shameful reporterz must bow to worship Trump. They no theyre fake newz. Foucci. Kloroquin. Nuthing to looz. Powerful steps taken by very very very strong Trump.

- an exerpt frum a press breifing.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Trump powerful. Very very strong and powerful. Sum very big wordz. Everybudy sez so. Nobudy saw this kuming. Shameful reporterz must bow to worship Trump. They no theyre fake newz. Foucci. Kloroquin. Nuthing to looz. Powerful steps taken by very very very strong Trump.

- an exerpt frum a press breifing.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .




"Trump bad. Orange man bad. Anonymous. Trump said bad. Trump did bad. Officials said. Bad bad bad. Trump Trump Trump. Bad = Trump = Orange. Racist"

~An excerpt from every Legacy Media article in the last 3 years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Trump powerful. Very very strong and powerful. Sum very big wordz. Everybudy sez so. Nobudy saw this kuming. Shameful reporterz must bow to worship Trump. They no theyre fake newz. Foucci. Kloroquin. Nuthing to looz. Powerful steps taken by very very very strong Trump.

- an exerpt frum a press breifing.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

Hi JO! Happy to see you around! How 'ya doin'?

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:55 AM

BC has flattened the curve enough that Victoria is starting to talk about how to open the province again. They are looking at schools which will have class and times staggered but of course this will all happen with Dr. Bonnie Henry's approval.

Quebec's Premier has taken full responsibility and apologized for the mess his province is in with their long term care homes.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:52 PM

Doing OK, 1KIKI. Staying isolated az much az practicle.

Like most peepl, spending a bunch uv time on the coronavirus newz.

There iz more disinfo than solid facts at this point.

The FPN (Fox Propaganda Network - the name I'm uzing for the entire rite wing media, including radio, print, web) iz pushing a narrativ that the flu iz worse than C-19. The primary factoid they base it on iz that 61,000 peepl hav died from the flu this seazon so far (a prezumtion that may or may not be true bekuz it will remain an estimate for yirz).

A few thingz to take note uv:

1. The flu seazon iz about 6 months so far, Oct 1 to March 28. This ranje iz wut you will find in articlez refered by ritewingerz.
2. There are vacseenz for the flu
3. The fatality rate iz well established at .1%
4.The flu haz 100% saturation in the human rase.

Compare the COVID-19 virus:

1. The 'seazon' beginning at the 1st confirmed case in the US wuz Jan 21st. Nearly 4 months after the start uv the flu seazon. The 1st deth wuz Feb 29th. We are now at 36,773 1 month & 18 daze later.
2. There are no vacseenz for it and no herd immunity. That meanz it can jump from person to person unimpeded.
3. The fatality rate iz about 3.4%. That meanz that if you get it, you are 34x more likely to kik the buket than if you got the flu insted.
4. The saturation iz about .05%.

So if you multiply the fatality number by 200 if it wuz at the same saturation level az the flu, its 7,354,600 ded Americanz so far and on its way to 11,900,000.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:

3. The fatality rate iz about 3.4%. That meanz that if you get it, you are 34x more likely to kik the buket than if you got the flu insted.
4. The saturation iz about .05%.

So if you multiply the fatality number by 200 if it wuz at the same saturation level az the flu, its 7,354,600 ded Americanz so far and on its way to 11,900,000.

Antibody tests are starting to become available that allow us to test an entire population and get a solid estimate of how many people have ever been infected. A team of researchers did this for Santa Clara County in California recently and came up with this: . . . we estimate that the seroprevalence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in Santa Clara County is between 2.49% and 4.16%.

The “official” number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the US is about 600,000. If we take a middle estimate of 3.3 percent from this study and extrapolate it to the entire country, the true number of cases is about 11 million.

But what’s the death toll? The official number right now is about 30,000, but let’s be conservative and assume the real number is twice as high. This gives us 60,000 deaths out of 11 million cases, for a true case fatality rate CFR of 0.5 percent. This is much lower than previous estimates from around the world.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/the-true-cfr-of-the-coronavirus
-may-be-0-5-or-less
/

If you assume everybody in America will, eventually, be exposed that means a case fatality rate of 0.5% times 330 million population of US equals 1.65 million dead over a few years. But the true case fatality rate might NOT be 0.5%. Who knows what it truly is? Time will tell. Also, vaccines and antiviral drugs like remdesivir will change the numbers.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME