new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Interesting - clot busting drugs might work on the sickest patients -
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/doctor-gambles-clot-busting-dr
ug-save-virus-patients-70100830
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Interesting - clot busting drugs might work on the sickest patients -
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/doctor-gambles-clot-busting-dr
ug-save-virus-patients-70100830
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Like the last report, now with MORE PATIENTS!
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WHO is investigating reports of recovered COVID patients testing positive again
April 10
Stephanie Nebehay
GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Saturday that it was looking into reports of some COVID-19 patients testing positive again after initially testing negative for the disease while being considered for discharge.
South Korean officials on Friday reported 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again. Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a briefing that the virus may have been “reactivated” rather than the patients being re-infected.
The Geneva-based WHO, asked about the report from Seoul, told Reuters in a brief statement: “We are aware of these reports of individuals who have tested negative for COVID-19 using PCR (polymerase chain reaction) testing and then after some days testing positive again.
“We are closely liaising with our clinical experts and working hard to get more information on those individual cases. It is important to make sure that when samples are collected for testing on suspected patients, procedures are followed properly,” it said.
According to the WHO’s guidelines on clinical management, a patient can be discharged from hospital after two consecutive negative results in a clinically recovered patient at least 24 hours apart, it added.
Based on current studies, there is a period of about two weeks between the onset of symptoms and clinical recovery of patients with mild COVID-19 disease, the agency said.
“We are aware that some patients are PCR positive after they clinically recover, but we need systematic collection of samples from recovered patients to better understand how long they shed live virus,” it said.
FILE PHOTO: A South Korean patient affected with the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) casts her ballot for the parliamentary election at a polling station set up at a quarantine center in Yongin, South Korea, April 11, 2020. REUTERS/Kim Hong-Ji/File Photo
South Korean health officials said on Friday that it remains unclear what is behind the trend, with epidemiological investigations still under way.
“As COVID-19 is a new disease, we need more epidemiological data to draw any conclusions of virus shedding profile,” the WHO said.
The number of deaths linked to the novel coronavirus reached 100,000 on Friday, as reported cases passed 1.6 million, according to a Reuters tally.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who/who-is-inves
tigating-reports-of-recovered-covid-patients-testing-positive-again-idUSKCN21T0F1
This may slow, if not eventually halt altogther, the drive towards creating a vaccine. As KIKI said, the question is whether these people are infectious. Also, Why were these particular people retested? Were they symptomatic, or is this just a laboratory finding from a larger study? The article leaves out a lot of relevant information.
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Yeah, but if you don't tell people what topic it is you're posting about, you're an idiot.
MEANWHILE, I noticed that besides being incoherent, as usual you provided no links.
Whatever.
Babble to yourself all you want.
Putting you on ignore.
I was replying to a comment that Sigs made yesterday afternoon in this thread, dummy.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've mentioned Sweden as the bellweather nation for the "do nothing" approach, and I'm going to bring it up here again for the sake of continuity and completeness.
There were other "do nothing" nations, most recently Belarus, which had early on decided to keep the economy going but is now quietly changing its approach and asking Russia for help. Brazil continues its "do nothing" policy. India, in reality, can do nothing, altho to government virtue-signals its lockdown.
Neither Modi (India) nor Bolsanaro (Brazil) have the capacity to even know what's going on in their infamous slums/favelas. People could be keeling over at home from Covid, but until bodies start piling up in the streets, like in Ecuador, nobody will be the wiser. The total number of deaths will probably be drastically under-reported, not only because the governments have an interest in doing so, but their medical infrastructure is so woefully underpowered compared to the size of the population it would be a Herculean task just to come up with a decent tally.
In those other threads I mentioned that we can rely on Sweden's reporting, partly because Sweden has a well-developed medical and reporting system.
But then I remembered ... Sweden notoriously under-reported crimes by ME migrants, and made it illegal to even mention the ethnicity of the criminals. So Sweden isn't necessarily transparent either. Altho they have the capability for proper reporting, their history with their migrant problem shows they don't mind bending the truth ... alot ... in favor of government policy.
So, I would use their stats with caution, and be on the lookout for things like "excess deaths", not necessarily related to Covid-19.
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This is an AB conversation. C your way out of it.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like the last report, now with MORE PATIENTSS!Quote:
WHO is investigating reports of recovered COVID patients testing positive again
April 10
Stephanie Nebehay
GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Saturday that it was looking into reports of some COVID-19 patients testing positive again after initially testing negative for the disease while being considered for discharge.
South Korean officials on Friday reported 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again. Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a briefing that the virus may have been “reactivated” rather than the patients being re-infected.
The Geneva-based WHO, asked about the report from Seoul, told Reuters in a brief statement: “We are aware of these reports of individuals who have tested negative for COVID-19 using PCR (polymerase chain reaction) testing and then after some days testing positive again.
“We are closely liaising with our clinical experts and working hard to get more information on those individual cases. It is important to make sure that when samples are collected for testing on suspected patients, procedures are followed properly,” it said.
According to the WHO’s guidelines on clinical management, a patient can be discharged from hospital after two consecutive negative results in a clinically recovered patient at least 24 hours apart, it added.
Based on current studies, there is a period of about two weeks between the onset of symptoms and clinical recovery of patients with mild COVID-19 disease, the agency said.
“We are aware that some patients are PCR positive after they clinically recover, but we need systematic collection of samples from recovered patients to better understand how long they shed live virus,” it said.
FILE PHOTO: A South Korean patient affected with the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) casts her ballot for the parliamentary election at a polling station set up at a quarantine center in Yongin, South Korea, April 11, 2020. REUTERS/Kim Hong-Ji/File Photo
South Korean health officials said on Friday that it remains unclear what is behind the trend, with epidemiological investigations still under way.
“As COVID-19 is a new disease, we need more epidemiological data to draw any conclusions of virus shedding profile,” the WHO said.
The number of deaths linked to the novel coronavirus reached 100,000 on Friday, as reported cases passed 1.6 million, according to a Reuters tally.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who/who-is-inves
tigating-reports-of-recovered-covid-patients-testing-positive-again-idUSKCN21T0F1
This may slow, if not eventually halt altogther, the drive towards creating a vaccine. As KIKI said, the question is whether these people are infectious. Also, Why were these particular people retested? Were they symptomatic, or is this just a laboratory finding from a larger study? The article leaves out a lot of relevant information.
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In sum: the idea that antibodies = immunity is unproven at best, and there are some early indications it's false. But I don't see that being mentioned in the media by responsible medical or epidemiological people. So IMO it's beyond being over-hyped and veering into propaganda by people who know better.
This whole drive towards antibodies as being the magic key is unproven, and imo really tenuous. I haven't been deeply searching the inet, but at the same time I haven't seen ANY indication that antibodies are helpful. I read they tried infusing gamma globulins from recovered patients into very ill patients - but I didn't read of any results. Why not? Perhaps it wasn't successful.
IDK why no responsible person has mentioned how unproven all that is.
BTW I surmise they were symptomati
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ZH has been writing articles about a Morgan Stanley forecast over the last number of weeks. Though it's usually pretty good about linking originals, they haven't been doing that for this series, so it may be internal documentation not for publication.
Here's the link to the latest:
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/morgan-stanley-publishes-full-timelin
e-upcoming-coronavirus-milestones-sees-second
Now, these are analyzed and written (according to this article) by a JPMorgan "biotech strategist", so the article is heavy on vaccines and pharmaceuticals, with no mention of masks and hand sanitizers.
Yep. Soak 'em while they're desperate.
Nevertheless, there's some interesting information in this series.
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Hi to you all. I hope you are staying safe and well my friends. Take care, stay at home and stay sane xxx
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The bad news is US 'new infections' hasn't started to drop. The good news is it's still leveled-off in the 30,000 - 35,000 per-day range since April 4, 2020.
While NY(NYC) used to dominate the numbers in terms of new cases, it now is down to a quarter of all new cases in the US. So other states are picking up the slack and keeping new cases from dropping. As NY(NYC) drops even further and fades from view, I suspect we'll get a bump up because of the totality of states on the upslope.
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Hi Magons! How're things down there?
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Hi Ikiki
All going ok - I’m almost ashamed to say I’m enjoying the lockdown as it gives me a much needed break from much of my life lol
I’m lucky - I’m still able to work from home, I have a roof over my head and plenty of internet, food and supplies are all good and we are all healthy. Lots to be grateful for.
I’m really saddened by what’s happening there - especially NY - awful.
Thinking of you all - hope sanity rules and the lockdown continues until guided by people who actually have some expertise in virus management
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