new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Speaking of hodroxychorloquine and fake news...
I'm surprised nobody talked about this lady and her dead husband in the RWED.
Talk about a nothing burger - dude, you are so desperate. She totally stoned him. Did you even listen to it??
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Actually, if you look at the data, I wonder whether antibodies (immunoglobulins) are the most effective way to clear the virus. If young people seem to do better but have fewer antibodies (at least to the spike proteins) and older people have more spike protein antibodies but don't fare as well, maybe other parts of the immune system (or antibodies to other parts of the virus) are more effective at inactivating it.
I don't know much about the immune system, other than there have got to be at least a dozen separate components that turn it on, and off (cytokines, antibodies/plasma cells, T cells, macrophages, interferons, steroids, calcineurin, etc) Every time I look itup, I bump into at least two other things I didn't know.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Speaking of hodroxychorloquine and fake news...
I'm surprised nobody talked about this lady and her dead husband in the RWED.
Talk about a nothing burger - dude, you are so desperate. She totally stoned him. Did you even listen to it??
She wasn't interested in the least in hearing or telling the truth.
That was a great video showing how uninterested your Legacy Media is in actually telling you the truth when they have an agenda to push.
And I'd love to hear how I'm the one desperate here. I'm not the one who went out and bought a second fridge and spends his days cowering in fear right now.
You're going to get it. If you're weak, you will die.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I don't think ANYBODY really understands the immune system! If it was a complete body of knowledge we still wouldn't be struggling with cancers and bacteria and viruses and autoimmune diseases!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, if you look at the data, I wonder whether antibodies (immunoglobulins) are the most effective way to clear the virus. If young people seem to do better but have fewer antibodies (at least to the spike proteins) and older people have more spike protein antibodies but don't fare as well, maybe other parts of the immune system (or antibodies to other parts of the virus) are more effective at inactivating it.
I don't know much about the immune system, other than there have got to be at least a dozen separate components that turn it on, and off (cytokines, antibodies/plasma cells, T cells, macrophages, interferons, steroids, calcineurin, etc) Every time I look it up, I bump into at least two other things I didn't know.
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Anyway, I can believe that SARS-COV-2 sometimes gets reactivated. I can believe people sometimes get reinfected. And I can believe the tests are sometimes bunk! I think what's important epidemiologically is whether these people are infectious. They may be producing enough antibody to (minimally) target the virus for immune destruction or (maximally) neutralize it, and either one will help keep it from being infectious. But you can still detect the RNA of a virus that has antibodies attached to it, so RNA tests will still be positive.
Like so much about the virus, there are a lot of unknowns!
/ETA: that's why I think the pathway to treatments and vaccines may be more tortuous that people think./
SARS-COV-2 is what they call a 'positive sense RNA' virus. "DNA makes RNA and RNA makes protein." A positive sense RNA is used directly as a template to make proteins. "RNA makes protein." (A negative sense RNA is the complement to a positive sense RNA. So a negative sense RNA needs to be transcribed by enzymes into a positive sense RNA in order to create proteins. A retrovirus is an RNA virus that creates DNA from its RNA template, and then inserts its own DNA into the host genome.)
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So, I went shopping today at my usual two stores. (Yanno, GSTRING, to fill up the pantry, basement, numerous cabinets and cupboards and two freezers... that I don't have 
) and it's always been an interesting point to see how many are wearing masks.
The first two weeks dear daughter and I went, we were the very fashion-forward two. By the third week, there were maybe one or two (or six, in the bigger store) aside from us. By the fourth week, about 30% in the small store and 50% in the bigger store were wearing masks, but none of the employees were.
Thus last time, the smaller store got a 97%, as far as I can tell. ALL of the employees were wearing masks, and nearly everyone else was, with the exception of three people (two men and a woman.)
The larger store got a 95%. All employees were wearing procedure masks, with the exception of one dood who obviously promised to wear a bandana and just as obviously decided to slip it down to his neck.
Many people were wearing handsewn cloth masks or procedure (paper) masks, a few were wearing bandanas, and some N95 respirators had found their way out into the populace.
The store was way more crowded than I feel comfortable with. I don't know if that's because it's a Friday (but who the heck is working a regular workweek anymore?) or bcause it was raining yesterday and people put off their Thursday shopping for Friday. Like I did.
Anyway, I think more people are wearing masks bc the CDC changed its tune. Can you imagine how many might have been wearing masks before, if the CDC hadn't screwed up the message for two months???
#WEAR A MASK.
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Yeah ...
April 03, 2020 The CDC recommends all people wear masks outside the home.
April 03, 2020 NYC asks all people wear masks outside the home.
April 03, 2020 LACounty asks all people wear masks outside the home.
FWIW
April 07, 2020 The City of Los Angeles requires all people wear masks outside the home.
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Italy, new cases and new deaths.
Did you notice something funny about this chart? There is a roughly seven-day sinusoid in the numbers. Must be that coroners, labs etc don't work on weekends, or that the numbers don't get reported until Monday?
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Coronavirus infection may cause lasting damage throughout the body, doctors fear
By Melissa HealyStaff Writer
April 10, 2020
3:03 PM
For a world grappling with the new coronavirus, it’s becoming increasingly clear that even when the pandemic is over, it won’t really be over.
Now doctors are beginning to worry that for patients who have survived COVID-19, the same may be true.
For the sickest patients, infection with the new coronavirus is proving to be a full-body assault, causing damage well beyond the lungs. And even after patients who become severely ill have recovered and cleared the virus, physicians have begun seeing evidence of the infection’s lingering effects.
In a study posted this week, scientists in China examined the blood test results of 34 COVID-19 patients over the course of their hospitalization. In those who survived mild and severe disease alike, the researchers found that many of the biological measures had “failed to return to normal.”
Chief among the worrisome test results were readings that suggested these apparently recovered patients continued to have impaired liver function. That was the case even after two tests for the live virus had come back negative and the patients were cleared to be discharged.
At the same time, as cardiologists are contending with the immediate effects of COVID-19 on the heart, they’re asking how much of the damage could be long-lasting. In an early study of COVID-19 patients in China, heart failure was seen in nearly 12% of those who survived, including in some who had shown no signs of respiratory distress.
When lungs do a poor job of delivering oxygen to the body, the heart can come under severe stress and may emerge weaker. That’s concerning enough in an illness that typically causes breathing problems. But when even those without respiratory distress sustain injury to the heart, doctors have to wonder whether they have underestimated COVID-19’s ability to wreak lasting havoc.
“COVID-19 is not just a respiratory disorder,” said Dr. Harlan Krumholtz, a cardiologist at Yale University. “It can affect the heart, the liver, the kidneys, the brain, the endocrine system and the blood system.”
There are no long-term survivors of this wholly new disease: Even its first victims in China are little more than three months removed from their ordeal. And physicians have been too busy treating the acutely ill to closely monitor the progress of the roughly 370,000 people worldwide known to have recovered from COVID-19.
Still, doctors are worried that in its wake, some organs whose function has been knocked off kilter will not recover quickly, or completely. That could leave patients more vulnerable for months or years to come.
“I think there will be long-term sequelae,” said Yale cardiologist Dr. Joseph Brennan, using the medical term for a disease’s downstream effects.
“I don’t know that for real,” he cautioned. “But this disease is so overwhelming” that some of the recovered are likely to face ongoing health concerns, he said.
Another question that could take years to answer is whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 may lie dormant in the body for years and spring back later in different form.
It wouldn’t be the first virus to behave that way. After a chicken pox infection, for instance, the herpes virus that causes the illness hides quietly for decades and often emerges as the painful affliction shingles. The virus that causes hepatitis B can sow the seeds of liver cancer years later. And in the months after the West African Ebola epidemic subsided in 2016, the virus responsible for that illness was found to have taken up residence in the vitreous fluid of some of its victims’ eyes, causing blindness or vision impairment in 40% of those affected.
Given SARS-CoV-2’s affinity for lung tissue, doctors quickly suspected that some recovered COVID-19 patients would sustain lasting damage to their lungs. In infections involvin
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yeah ...
April 03, 2020 The CDC recommends all people wear masks outside the home.
April 03, 2020 NYC asks all people wear masks outside the home.
April 03, 2020 LACounty asks all people wear masks outside the home.
FWIW
April 07, 2020 The City of Los Angeles requires all people wear masks outside the home.
Meanwhile....
April 10th, nobody in America can buy a mask.
lol
Doesn't matter. We're all going to get it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, I went shopping today at my usual two stores. (Yanno, GSTRING, to fill up the pantry, basement, numerous cabinets and cupboards and two freezers... that I don't have
The first two weeks dear daughter and I went, we were the very fashion-forward two. By the third week, there were maybe one or two (or six, in the bigger store) aside from us. By the fourth week, about 30% in the small store and 50% in the bigger store were wearing masks, but none of the employees were.
Thus last time, the smaller store got a 97%, as far as I can tell. ALL of the employees were wearing masks, and nearly everyone else was, with the exception of three people (two men and a woman.)
The larger store got a 95%. All employees were wearing procedure masks, with the exception of one dood who obviously promised to wear a bandana and just as obviously decided to slip it down to his neck.
Many people were wearing handsewn cloth masks or procedure (paper) masks, a few were wearing bandanas, and some N95 respirators had found their way out into the populace.
The store was way more crowded than I feel comfortable with. I don't know if that's because it's a Friday (but who the heck is working a regular workweek anymore?) or bcause it was raining yesterday and people put off their Thursday shopping for Friday. Like I did.
Anyway, I think more people are wearing masks bc the CDC changed its tune. Can you imagine how many might have been wearing masks before, if the CDC hadn't screwed up the message for two months???
#WEAR A MASK.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#STAYTHEFUCKHOME
Nobody is wearing masks here. Maybe 5% of customers when I shop, and zero percent of employees.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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