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Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:15 PM

So OOC I was wondering ... at what point can I expect 1:10 casual contacts to have Covid-19? What about 1:3? 1:2?

The data if far too scattershot and w/o context to provide an answer. LA County has 10+million. The last increase was about 412. The previous increase before that was over 600. Somewhere in-between, LA County decided to narrow the criteria for testing. There is no way to calculate a doubling-time from the data presented.





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Sunday, March 29, 2020 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh jeez...
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On Saturday, the Los Angeles Times noted the COVID-19 death of a 25-year-old pharmacy technician with no underlying health issues, whose body was found on Wednesday at a home in the Coachella valley neighborhood of La Quinta where they were in self-quarantine. The San Diego resident's identity has not been disclosed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/25-year-old-california-man-no-underly
ing-conditions-dies-covid-19


Not that someone died but that they died at home, without any treatment.




OMG! THEY WEREN'T EVEN SICK! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE ALONE AT HOME, LIKE TOMORROW PROBABLY!!!

Really?? Zerohedge? Agitate much? That tactic, hmmm... sounds familiar to me... oh, right!

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 8:35 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh jeez...
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On Saturday, the Los Angeles Times noted the COVID-19 death of a 25-year-old pharmacy technician with no underlying health issues, whose body was found on Wednesday at a home in the Coachella valley neighborhood of La Quinta where they were in self-quarantine. The San Diego resident's identity has not been disclosed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/25-year-old-california-man-no-underly
ing-conditions-dies-covid-19


Not that someone died but that they died at home, without any treatment.




OMG! THEY WEREN'T EVEN SICK! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE ALONE AT HOME, LIKE TOMORROW PROBABLY!!!

Really?? Zerohedge? Agitate much? That tactic, hmmm... sounds familiar to me... oh, right!

#RUSSIANSTOOGESGOTTASTOOGE





Well... before I start going on and blaming Putin for putting that out there, maybe you should put a pin in that and see where this is all going.

It should be noted, that latimes is also reporting on the death.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200328011656/https://www.latimes.com/cal
ifornia/story/2020-03-27/25-year-olds-coronavirus-death-in-riverside-county-reminder-that-all-are-at-risk


Half the country is already under stay at home orders. A lot of people that are being told to stay at home aren't staying at home. Especially young people. Hell, even though I'm not young, I'd probably still be going out a lot more right now if I still did before the shutdown. I've actually used this opportunity to catch up with a few old friends over the phone, and we've already made plans to get together when this stuff is over, but they all have kids, and we all live in states with the lockdown and nobody feels much like doing anything. So until the weather breaks and spring is finally here, I don't really have much to do outside but the occasional grocery shopping anyhow.

Illinois is already going to begin rolling out a plan to hand out $500 tickets, because if you're not already sufficiently scared enough of the virus well then maybe you'll be scared of getting a ticket that costs you around 4 times the average traffic violation.

Most of those spring breakers didn't seem to really give a shit.


This whole thing is about fear. Up until this point, they haven't been sufficiently putting fear into young people. Stories about otherwise healthy 20 somethings just magically up and dying from the virus could do it if you get enough of them.



But I don't trust any of our own media, let alone the prospect of Putin or Xi trying to get fake stories published. Maybe the kid swallowed a bunch of pills and washed it down with a bottle of whiskey.



I mean, honestly... Ask yourself the question "what does "coronavirus-related fatalites" mean?".

Maybe the kid's suicide note mentioned coronavirus, and that's all the relationship needed to classify it as such. Technically, that wouldn't even be untrue.

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His death will be added to San Diego’s number of coronavirus-related fatalities, which as of Friday afternoon stood at three. But Dr. Wilma Wooten, San Diego County’s public health officer, said that data would be updated to include three more deaths, with the 25-year-old technician among them.


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Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:15 PM

"Suicide"? Where in any article did you read "suicide", SIX? Or did you just stick that in there because you couldn't believe that coronavirus kills, and even young people sometimes die? Jeez, SIX, on this topic your brain goes entrely haywire, as do your eyes and reading skills.

And CC, what is your obssession with RUSSIA!??? Of all of the times to be obssessing about a foreign "enemy", isn't this the least relevant, when we have an enemy here at home? I mean, if you really want to "stick it" to Russia, wouldn't that mean mounting a credible response to the virus and getting our economy (such as it is) back on track, hopefully better than before?

Putting you on "ignore" again.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Suicide"? Where in any article did you read "suicide", SIX? Or did you just stick that in there because you couldn't believe that coronavirus kills, and even young people sometimes die? Jeez, SIX, on this topic your brain goes entrely haywire, as do your eyes and reading skills.

And CC, what is your obssession with RUSSIA!??? Of all of the times to be obssessing about a foreign "enemy", isn't this the least relevant, when we have an enemy here at home? I mean, if you really want to "stick it" to Russia, wouldn't that mean mounting a credible response to the virus and getting our economy (such as it is) back on track, hopefully better than before?

Putting you on "ignore" again.




Aww, ouch! I'll be sure to double my responses to you now.



And who's obsessing? You mention Russia more than everyone else put together. I never thought about Russia all that much until you went on and on about how great they were - so I guess thanks for that.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Suicide"? Where in any article did you read "suicide", SIX? Or did you just stick that in there because you couldn't believe that coronavirus kills, and even young people sometimes die? Jeez, SIX, on this topic your brain goes entrely haywire, as do your eyes and reading skills.

And CC, what is your obssession with RUSSIA!??? Of all of the times to be obssessing about a foreign "enemy", isn't this the least relevant, when we have an enemy here at home? I mean, if you really want to "stick it" to Russia, wouldn't that mean mounting a credible response to the virus and getting our economy (such as it is) back on track, hopefully better than before?

Putting you on "ignore" again.

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Young and healthy people don't die from this. Period.

This is just more fearmongering from the Legacy Media, this time to terrorize all the young people who don't give a shit what the government tells them to do.

They said it was "coronavirus-related". That could literally mean anything.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Young and healthy people don't die from this. Period.

This is just more fearmongering from the Legacy Media, this time to terrorize all the young people who don't give a shit what the government tells them to do.

Young people pass the disease to others who die, instead.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the widely respected director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, went on CNN Sunday morning and, though clearly reluctant to offer a numerical estimate, said in his opinion the United States would likely see 100,000-200,000 coronavirus deaths before all was said and done.
https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1244275909944885248

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Young and healthy people don't die from this. Period.

This is just more fearmongering from the Legacy Media, this time to terrorize all the young people who don't give a shit what the government tells them to do.

Young people pass the disease to others who die, instead.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the widely respected director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, went on CNN Sunday morning and, though clearly reluctant to offer a numerical estimate, said in his opinion the United States would likely see 100,000-200,000 coronavirus deaths before all was said and done.
https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1244275909944885248

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




People who are extremely ill and are going to die from something else soon anyhow.

Sad but true.


At 200,000, that's not even 3% of the people who are going to die this year from everything that people are going to die from, and in many cases it's just going to be replacing the cause of death they were otherwise going to die from this year.

This is hardly Captain Tripps.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:15 PM

Since there are a lot of nations trying various forms of quinine, I decided to look up its history.

The true discoverers of quinine were the Incans, who used extracts of the chincona bark to treat shivering. Various attempts were made to synthesize the drug ... which led to the development of purple and blue dyes, but not to a product that could compete with the Dutch quinine monopoly and their chincona plantations in Indonesia, until ...

In 1931 Bayer (a German firm) landed on quinacrine, a previously-synthesized compound found to have anti-malarial properties. Chloroquine was also synthesized at Bayer shortly afterwards. The hydroxylation of chloroquine to make it less toxic appears to be lost in history but that led to hydroxycholorquine.

Mefloquine was developed by a consortium of the USA Army, WHO/TDR (which I believe stands for "Tropical Disease Research) and Hoffman-LaRoche.

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/03/20/chloroquine-
past-and-present

https://www.mmv.org/malaria-medicines/history-antimalarials

Nobody knows how the various quinines might work against coronavirus, altho there is some evidence for it complexing zinc. (Maybe it's a zinc-delivery system?)



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Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

People who are extremely ill and are going to die from something else soon anyhow.

Sad but true.


At 200,000, that's not even 3% of the people who are going to die this year from everything that people are going to die from, and in many cases it's just going to be replacing the cause of death they were otherwise going to die from this year.

This is hardly Captain Tripps.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

By that logic American governments should fire their homicide detectives and use the money more productively for emergency medical technicians because heart attack/stroke deaths far out number murders. I blame the public libraries with millions of murder mysteries on their bookshelves and very few books about E.M.T.s.

https://ourworldindata.org/homicides
www.statista.com/statistics/195331/number-of-murders-in-the-us-by-stat
e
/

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