new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, March 14, 2020 3:54 AM

This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 9% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 7% of Closed cases are fatal.

16th ranked Diamond Princess cases have 7 deaths. 325 recovered, 32 serious/critical.

Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, UK, Japan have surpassed Diamond Princess.

US is in 8th place, with 2,269 cases and 31 recoveries. 48 deaths.

Canada is 25th place, with 188 cases, 11 recoveries. 1 death.

I would like to point out that Japan and Brazil join the following group: of locations on this list with more than 100 cases, US, Canada, and Maylaysia have the lowest per capita cases.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 15, 2020 12:54 AM

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Separately, Here in WI we have 2 new cases, up from 0 active. In Pierce Co and Dane Co (Madison.) Both cases are from traveling in America.
In Pierce County, River Falls is a University of Wisconsin campus in the far west of the state, near Minneapolis.
These 2 cases were from travelling in unspecified locations in America, but both were in spots with current community spread (CA, WA, NYC).

Yesterday 3 more cases in WI. 2 in Fond Du Lac County (south end of Lake Winnebago) and 1 in Waukesha Co (western suburbs of Milwaukee, and wealthiest County in WI - a Firefly restaurant is there.) 1 of the FDL cases was from travel in US, the other 2 were from international travel to known hot spots.

Today 2 more cases, in Dane Co, both having contact with the 2nd WI case, found earlier this week in Dane Co (Madison).

But this warms my heart.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/national/coronavirus/wisconsin-national-guar
d-mobilized-to-transport-37-wisconsinites-on-board-grand-princess-cruise-ship
Saving Wisconsinites from the horrors of California.

On Friday, the WI cases jumped from 7 to 18 active, 19 total.

Skeletor Gov Evers has announced he will close all schools in WI, both public and private, but at this critical time he needs to give them 5 more days to infect as many others as possible, so school closing will start next week on Wednesday.

New cases reported Friday:
1 more in Dane Co - UW-Madison Vet School person who just returned from a country with widespread cases.
2 in Milwaukee Co - the first (downtown) had close contact with another confirmed case, the second (North Shore) had just traveled in Europe, had close contact with a confirmed case.
1 in Racine Co (south border of Milwaukee Co) - just traveled internationally.
3 in Sheboygan Co (east border of FDL Co, 2 counties north of Milwaukee).
4 more in Fond Du Lac Co.

WI still has no identified cases of "community spread" - just some cases from States with community spread.

I heard rumor that 3 of the new FDL cases were in Oshkosh. That would be the southern city of the Fox Cities which populate the north end of Lake Winnebago (such as Appleton, Menasha, Neenah, Kimberly, Kaukauna, Greenville, Grand Chute) - and which extend to within 6 miles of Green Bay.

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/outbreaks/index.htm

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/index.htm

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:04 AM

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On Friday, the WI cases jumped from 7 to 19 total.

Getting dangerously close to the combined IQ of Nilbog, TWO and T combined.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:00 AM

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/air-canada-suspends-flights-to-italy
-over-coronavirus-concerns-190335482.html

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-canada-cases-184926838.html

Since this is abc, who knows if it is even slightly accurate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-u-s-map-where-v
irus-has-been-confirmed-across-n1124546

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:10 AM

This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 8% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 7% of Closed cases are fatal.

16th ranked Diamond Princess cases still at 7 deaths. 325 recovered, 32 serious/critical.

Belgium, Austria are poised to surpass Diamond Princess.

US is in 8th place, with 2,499 cases and 49 recoveries. 55 deaths.

Canada is 23rd place (tied with Finland), with 225 cases, 11 recoveries. 1 death.

I would like to point out that Japan and Brazil join the following group: of locations on this list with more than 100 cases, US, Canada, and Maylaysia have the lowest per capita cases.

1KIKI

Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:25 AM

see latest post for most recent figures

1KIKI

Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:27 AM

see latest post for most recent figures

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:50 AM

I'd like to point out a possible summary or outlook. This may be controversial, and perhaps even 6ix may disagree.

I will specify several assumptions as baseline. If these concepts are disruptive to your chosen religion, please do not bother reading past it.

1. Human Immunodeficiency Virus exists, and has for centuries.
2. HIV does not cause AIDS, in the Real World.
3. HIV is spreadable thru intimate contact, such as fluid exchange.
4. COVID-19 has 4 insertions of section of HIV sequence spliced into the DNA/RNA. 3 of the insertions are from one strain of HIV, and one insertion is from another strain of HIV. These insertions spliced into the genome of COVID-19 provide for great recognition and docking characteristics for the virus to infect human host cells.

If all of the above is true, it is foreseeable that COVID-19 will enjoy widespread infection of the human population.
It will become common, like the common cold or common flu.
With known cases, America has proven that it can be controlled and treated - the problems in America have been the unknown cases, the community spread cases, the cases that CDC refused to test for until autopsy.
In America, the known and treated cases have had a ZERO percent fatality rate. The only deaths are from those who carried the virus for a while before getting tested, and mostly also infected others as well. None of the cases that we airlifted in have perished, nor have they infected others once here.

So, Like HIV, it can spread easily, but with a larger target population than HIV. Spread of HIV does not cause a spread of AIDS, and spread of COVID-19 might not cause a spread of raging deaths, unless they are untreated.
More than 80% of those infected with COVID-19 are merely carriers (and are apparently under age 80). They do not get violently ill, critically or seriously ill. An overburdened Health care system does not need to deal with these mild cases.
The seriously ill can get the therapy needed, and then once over it, on to the next case.

How many of these, what percent of the population which become serious cases, and whether they health care system can, if triaged properly, handle them, is not yet answered. This could be overburdening, but then it will have passed, perhaps.

I'm not sure how much of this will play out, but it seems a possibility.
Hope I explained it well enough.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'd like to point out a possible summary or outlook. This may be controversial, and perhaps even 6ix may disagree.

I will specify several assumptions as baseline. If these concepts are disruptive to your chosen religion, please do not bother reading past it.

1. Human Immunodeficiency Virus exists, and has for centuries.

No arguments so far. HIV is real.

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2. HIV does not cause AIDS, in the Real World.

Yes. HIV doesn't magically create diseases that aren't real.

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3. HIV is spreadable thru intimate contact, such as fluid exchange.

Yup.

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4. COVID-19 has 4 insertions of section of HIV sequence spliced into the DNA/RNA. 3 of the insertions are from one strain of HIV, and one insertion is from another strain of HIV. These insertions spliced into the genome of COVID-19 provide for great recognition and docking characteristics for the virus to infect human host cells.

Maybe.

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If all of the above is true, it is foreseeable that COVID-19 will enjoy widespread infection of the human population.
It will become common, like the common cold or common flu.
With known cases, America has proven that it can be controlled and treated - the problems in America have been the unknown cases, the community spread cases, the cases that CDC refused to test for until autopsy.
In America, the known and treated cases have had a ZERO percent fatality rate. The only deaths are from those who carried the virus for a while before getting tested, and mostly also infected others as well. None of the cases that we airlifted in have perished, nor have they infected others once here.

So, Like HIV, it can spread easily, but with a larger target population than HIV. Spread of HIV does not cause a spread of AIDS, and spread of COVID-19 might not cause a spread of raging deaths, unless they are untreated.
More than 80% of those infected with COVID-19 are merely carriers (and are apparently under age 80). They do not get violently ill, critically or seriously ill. An overburdened Health care system does not need to deal with these mild cases.
The seriously ill can get the therapy needed, and then once over it, on to the next case.

How many of these, what percent of the population which become serious cases, and whether they health care system can, if triaged properly, handle them, is not yet answered. This could be overburdening, but then it will have passed, perhaps.

I'm not sure how much of this will play out, but it seems a possibility.
Hope I explained it well enough.

Yup. I'm not trying to be a dick when I tell people that they will get it.

They will get it. Everyone will get it.

Facemasks aren't going to help you unless you live in a bunker with 20 years of food stocked up and while you're down their a nuclear war kills everything on the surface.

Play ball, I say.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:40 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51875871

Coronavirus: Can the US catch up on testing?

Why did the US lag on testing?

There are several factors at play.

§ The World Health Organization approved a coronavirus test in January - but the US decided against using it, and instead had the CDC develop its own test.

§ In February, the CDC despatched testing kits across the US - but some of them didn't work properly, and led to inconclusive results.

§ The fact that the US has a "siloed" healthcare system, with various public and private health providers and laboratories, has also made testing more complicated, says Susan Butler-Wu, an associate professor at the Keck School of Medicine of USC, and a laboratory director in Los Angeles. "There is not a co-ordinated clinical response that can be rolled out, like there was in South Korea. We have no such thing as a national plan for testing."
Instead, many large laboratories have had to develop their own laboratory tests and seek emergency clearance from US regulators, which can be an "onerous" process, she says. Meanwhile, smaller laboratories do not have the equipment or space required to run laboratory tests - instead, they tend to rely on a simpler test, known as a sample-to-answer test - but the devices for such tests are awaiting approval from the FDA, Dr Butler-Wu says.
As a result, laboratories like Dr Butler-Wu's can collect samples, but then need to send them to a commercial reference laboratory for testing and results, which can slow down the process.

§ A US pathologist, who asked not to be named, also described the process as fragmented: "We don't have a national healthcare system so we don't have the ability to co-ordinate across hospitals..."

§ According to lawmakers who attended a briefing on Thursday, there were also problems with the supply chain for testing kits, with stocks of cotton swabs and gloves running low.

§ And earlier this week, the director of the CDC told a congressional hearing: "There's not enough equipment, there's not enough people, there's not enough internal capacity. ...The truth is... we've underinvested in the public health labs."

A different article I read was more explicit when it comes to the fragmented, isolated testing.

Because there isn't a national health system, there's no large-scale testing capacity that can handle thousands or tens of thousands of samples at a time.

What there is instead are isolated autonomous facilities where individual laboratories have myriad different combinations of pieces of instrumentation and equipment, reagent kits, and procedures. So there's no standardization that would enable a single test to be rolled out across the country.

Then within each laboratory for this kind of 'specialty' testing there are small-scale and by-hand setups, that can do at most 5 samples a day.

There's a lot of systemic limitations in the system that can't be expanded to accommodate a crisis.

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