new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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I've been posting metrics from 2 different websites, and quite often they disagree by 40 or more, depending on when the sites get updated.
This site only gets updated once every few hours
As of March 10, 2020 at 14:46 GMT, there have been 729 confirmed cases and 27 deaths due to coronavirus COVID-19 in the United States
and this one gets updated continuously.
Total Confirmed
761
By the time my normal posting time rolls around, they'll be much closer in terms of cases. Neither one is lying, one is just more timely. At the moment however, they're both reporting 27 deaths.
You're smarter than that, to let a simple thing like rapidly changing numbers and updating lag trip you up.
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see latest post for most recent figures
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Quote:I think SIX was hoping to catch you repeating an M$M "lie" so he could ignore the numbers.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've been posting metrics from 2 different websites, and quite often they disagree by 40 or more, depending on when the sites get updated.
This site only gets updated once every few hours
As of March 10, 2020 at 14:46 GMT, there have been 729 confirmed cases and 27 deaths due to coronavirus COVID-19 in the United States
and this one gets updated continuously.
Total Confirmed
761
By the time my normal posting time rolls around, they'll be much closer in terms of cases. Neither one is lying, one is just more timely. At the moment however, they're both reporting 27 deaths.
You're smarter than that, to let a simple thing like rapidly changing numbers and updating lag trip you up.
Trump is playing to his "base" by downplaying the virus and saying it will "go away". Well, maybe it will throttle back in summer, maybe it will mutate to a less virulent form but there's no guarantee that will ever happen.
I was never part of his base, and if his prediction doesn't come true before the election then IMHO he's digging himself a "heckuva a job, Brownie"-sized hole and it will swallow his election.
Don't get me wrong, SIX. I'm HOPING that Trump wakes the fuck up. I'm on his side. Better late than never.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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So I've been doing some thinking on what to do if things get bad here in SoCal ...
Despite the god-awful lack of testing, individual risk is still low here. If one gets the coronavirus at this point, it really will be a wrong-time/ wrong-place scenario. That said, I read in an article that you should trust your spidey sense about whether or not a situation looks more risky than you're willing to tolerate, and I agree with that completely.
Getting back to transmission - all along I've been assuming it's closer to the measles end, which spreads vigorously by aerosol transmission. But I didn't account for it in my procedures because there wasn't any specific information supporting my hunch. I think the Chinese-reported case study of aerosol transmission is convincing enough for me to rethink what I'm doing or will be doing.
At this point, there's evidence of aerosol transmission up to about 14 feet, and infective aerosol for at least 20 minutes. There's also evidence of active viruses on surfaces for at least 4 days. Given that, touch looks like it's still the most important risk, so that procedure masks in public and sanitizing your hands (and things you touch often like your phone, and keys) immediately when you enter your house are imo protective. Also, anything you bring into the home that's not yours should be evaluated. A person at the meat counter who's wrapping your pork shoulder would be a great person to transmit coronavirus!
The questions come down to when do you start wearing an N95 mask in public, and when do you stop going out altogether. So I'd say it depends. If you time your outings to not-crowded times, and if you let your spidey sense be your guide, I think you can get by with procedure masks and sanitizing for quite a while. I guess my limit is about an overall SoCal or LACounty maximum 1:1000 risk, because I can see the consequences for me being infected would be very high. I would say I'd not pay too much overall attention to neighborhood (unless mine was a hot spot!), because here in SoCal it's not unusual for people to drive 60 miles or more to their work. So overall statistics would be my general guide for wearing an N95 mask, and of course I'd avoid proven hot-spots.
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Quote:Not the 19,000 to 70,000 deaths attributable to the flu.
Leaked Covid-19 Documents: Hospitals Prep For 96 Million Infections & 480K Deaths
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Leaked medical conference documents have warned that hospitals across the United States are preparing for 96 million coronavirus infections. Not only that, but the same document wants hospitals to make preparations for 480,000 deaths from this outbreak.
the American Hospital Association (AHA) conference in February reveal that US hospitals are preparing for:
96 million coronavirus infections
4.8 million hospitalizations from the infection
480,000 deaths in the United States
According to Business Insider, these leaked documents are telling. Dr. James Lawler, a professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, presented the harrowing “best guess” estimates of the extent of the outbreak to hospitals and health professionals as part of the AHA webinar called What Healthcare Leaders Need to Know: Preparing for the COVID-19 on February 26.
These documents paint a bleaker picture for those who are over the age of 60. According to the leaked documents:
"People aged 80 and over have a 14.8% chance of dying if they contract the infection, the slides revealed. The risk declines with youth, though those aged 70-79 and 60-69 are still placed at a significant risk, with 8% and 3.6% mortality rates respectively." –Business Insider
Additionally, it’s worth noting that Dr. Lawler’s estimate of 480,000 deaths would indicate a death rate of just half a percent (0.5%), which is significantly lower than death rates being reported by the WHO (3.4%) and the nation of Italy (5%). If the death rate in the United States reached just 2% while 96 million Americans are infected, that would result in 1.92 million deaths.
The United States has fewer than one million hospital beds, and they are typically around 75% occupied by existing patients, unrelated to the coronavirus. Natural News has calculated that U.S. hospital beds will be overrun by May 30th if nothing is done to stop the exponential spread of the coronavirus.
Mike Adams, aka, the Health Ranger at Natural News, has a new video out presenting the math and statistics found in these leaked documents.
"If you want to die, heed the advice of Mike Pence and do nothing to prepare for the pandemic. The Surgeon General also hopes you stop buying protecting gear so that you get infected and die more quickly, thereby making more protective equipment available to the government which is stockpiling like mad at this very minute." –Mike Adams, Natural News
As Alt-Market's Brandon Smith notes, it is also likely that hospitals are prepping for only 480,000 deaths because that is the maximum number of terminally ill patients their facilities can handle anyway.
If Italy is any indication and this virus does not burn out soon, the death rate will probably be between 3%-5%. The real number of infected versus dead will not be accurately calculated for another year at least...
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 12% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 6% of Closed cases are fatal.
DP cases have 7 deaths. 245 recovered, 32 serious/critical.
USA surpassed Diamond Princess for 8th place.
Japan seems ready to jump past Diamond Princess for 9th place.
US is in 8th place, with 975 cases and 15 recoveries. 30 deaths.
Canada is 24th place, with 94 cases, 8 recoveries. 1 death.
Separately, Here in WI we have 2 new cases, up from 0 active. In Pierce Co and Dane Co (Madison.) Both cases are from traveling in America.
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Quote:That doesn't explain the people ahead of him. Presumably they exited before he did since he was in the back of the bus, and on the bus for the whole ride.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The buss transmission could be from grabbing the headrests/handbars while entering/exiting, and cornering while moving. That would explain a lot of that diagram.
The spreader was sick when he got on. If he touched the headrest/handbar on his 2nd or 3rd step (regain balance - and folk with ear/nose/throat issues can be off-balance), that is reasonable. If a 2nd-row passenger got on after him, got back on after him (after toileting), they could have touched the same spot after he did. Or have been sitting in the seat where he touched the headrest/handbar.
With many folk of the same community perhaps being similar size and stride, touching the same one spot is not all that unusual.
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So...
Nobody has answered my question yet.
Did 15 elderly people in a home in Seattle die of COVID or not?
That's at least half, or possibly more than half of the supposed deaths recorded so far, depending on the source.
Has anybody else even heard of this story?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Some pertinent links are in this thread.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My old man said he saw on the news that 15 people died the other day in an old folks home in Seattle from COVID.
I told him that I've heard no such thing. JSF is saying that there are 19 confirmed deaths, just like I read the other day as well.
Has anybody heard this old folks home story?
I told him not to believe anything the news is saying about any of this until at least a week later because they don't do any due diligence and just report on anything that stokes TDS before they figure out if there is any truth to it or not.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Keep in mind I have limited board access now, and even just looking at sites has slowed down a bunch this month. So, not only are numbers changing rapidly, but my posts might not bee completely edited right away, particularly if the time stamp is :54 or :55 after the hour.
Currently, the update I just posted is edited and correct.
The first death in America was in WA State. Near this old folks home. Something like the next 10-12 deaths in America were also in WA state, in or associated with this facility. Many of the reports at the time were unclear or conflicting. After the 1st death, the others from this old folks home were not known to have it (until deaath/autopsy), and are considered "community spread" because they have not traced the sourcing of these contacts. The 1st death and the others are listed as being in 2 different counties, but the 2 sites are something like a few miles apart from each other, just in a different county. After something like 12 or 13 deaths, there was finally a death in CA, the first outside of WA.
So, the news that your dad summarized is likely fully accurate and true, I just don't have the exact details anymore - the American cases have gotten out of control.
In addition to staff and residents of the home, at least 2 firefighters who helped evacuate the facility are now in quarantine. I also hear that the facility BOUGHT some nearby hotel to use as emergency quarantine quarters to separate/isolate/protect the residents who had been at the home.
I think the 2nd death in America was around 29 Feb. And it was the first death from this facility, IIRC.
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Quote:Well, they indicated that they have video. So if they say aerosol, I'd think they're the ones in the best position to determine that.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The spreader was sick when he got on. If he touched the headrest/handbar on his 2nd or 3rd step (regain balance - and folk with ear/nose/throat issues can be off-balance), that is reasonable. If a 2nd-row passenger got on after him, got back on after him (after toileting), they could have touched the same spot after he did. Or have been sitting in the seat where he touched the headrest/handbar.
With many folk of the same community perhaps being similar size and stride, touching the same one spot is not all that unusual.
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