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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 4:29 AM

Jeezus, JSF, learn a little biology. p24 is produced, but by what? The human immune system, or the retrovirus itself? (HINT: look up the definition of "antigen")

Do you know how viruses work? They insert themselves into human cells and take over the protein production to make a lot more of themselves, until the cell explodes from virus particles. Viruses have preferred host cells. Some like to live in the nose ... like rhinovirus. Others in the gut, like norovirus. Some like to live in the throat, like ncov-19, and others in T cells, like HIV.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:01 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The antigen IS PRODUCED after HIV infection, part of the Immune System response, proving that the Immune System is working and functioning.
This is before the Immune System produces the Antibody, further proving the Immune System is responding, working, functioning properly.
But thanks for trying.

JSF - p24 IS A VIRAL PROTEIN NOT A HUMAN PROTEIN PRODUCED BY THE IMMUNE SYSTEM.

Do you know NOTHING about biology - at all?

Viruses hijack cells to produce more viruses like themselves. They do this by using the cells' machinery to produce viral proteins, and viral genetic code (RNA or DNA - which are nucleic acids, not proteins).


If a human is producing viral proteins, it's because they're infected with the virus.

Or, to be absolutely direct about it - a human that's producing HIV p24 protein is infected with HIV.


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Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:37 AM

More of Hilliary's best and brightest.

Dartmouth Administrator gets coronavirus confirmation, is told to remain in place quarantine, so he goes to black tie invitation-only event to infect the senior doctors at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/health/coronavirus/first-to-test-posi
tive-with-coronavirus-disregarded-advice-attended-invitation/article_2da63bb4-818e-5774-a213-f40777cb0180.html



Geniuses, right there.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:42 AM

James Bond delayed until November.

https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/movies/james-bond-sequel-delaye
d-till-november-amid-virus-outbreak

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:44 AM

kiki ear.ier wondered about China pollution effects from coronavirus.

I don't have the charts, but heard on radio that the polution as viewed from space went from the norm, heavily polluted in Dec, to either Jan or FEb the whole screen was clear.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 6:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The antigen IS PRODUCED after HIV infection, part of the Immune System response, proving that the Immune System is working and functioning.
This is before the Immune System produces the Antibody, further proving the Immune System is responding, working, functioning properly.
But thanks for trying.

JSF - p24 IS A VIRAL PROTEIN NOT A HUMAN PROTEIN PRODUCED BY THE IMMUNE SYSTEM.

Do you know NOTHING about biology - at all?

Viruses hijack cells to produce more viruses like themselves. They do this by using the cells' machinery to produce viral proteins, and viral genetic code (RNA or DNA - which are nucleic acids, not proteins).


If a human is producing viral proteins, it's because they're infected with the virus.

Or, to be absolutely direct about it - a human that's producing HIV p24 protein is infected with HIV.



Thanks for the update.

It still looks like once the Antibody is produced, the Virus is displaced. Is this correct? or are you saying they co-exist side by side?

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 6:41 AM

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It still looks like once the Antibody is produced, the Virus is displaced. Is this correct? or are you saying they co-exist side by side?
Jumping in for KIKI ... antibodies are produced but they're insufficient to clear the virus, so both exist. That's not unheard-of: Once the immune system is activated the chickenpox symptoms disappear, but the virus isn't completely killed- it goes to hide in nerve cells and can re-emerge decades later as shingles. You still have circulating antibodies, tho.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:33 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
James Bond delayed until November.

https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/movies/james-bond-sequel-delaye
d-till-november-amid-virus-outbreak



Nobody is going to watch that anyway. But at least they can't blame Coronavirus for it this time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:33 AM

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It still looks like once the Antibody is produced, the Virus is displaced. Is this correct? or are you saying they co-exist side by side?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Jumping in for KIKI ... antibodies are produced but they're insufficient to clear the virus, so both exist. That's not unheard-of: Once the immune system is activated the chickenpox symptoms disappear, but the virus isn't completely killed- it goes to hide in nerve cells and can re-emerge decades later as shingles. You still have circulating antibodies, tho.

I wish * I * had said that, Signy.

JSF, Signy is correct.

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:47 PM

More US cases, in more US states, with more US deaths, and now the US has it's own (Grand) 'Princess' cruise ship experiment, to see if it can do better than Japan.

The ship afaik sailed round trip between SanFran and Mexico, with 2 passengers who developed symptoms during the cruise debarking in SanFran, with one layer dying. The ship was to sail from SanFran with a call in Ensanada before sailing on to Hawaii, with 62 people still on board from the earlier Mexico trip for the Hawaii trip. It was called back from its route and has dropped anchor off of SanFran while officials determine what to do. But because it's 'travel' related - thought not to or from any high-risk areas - it's not considered community spread. I would consider that fudging the numbers. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/03/04/1st-california-coronaviru
s-death-san-francisco-mexico-princess-cruise-ship-placer-county
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The one thing there is less of is test kits being delivered as compared to how many were promised.

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