new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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IDK. Some back of the envelope calculations ... ~80% are mild cases, ~15% serious, and ~5% are critical. At least 1 of the COVID-19 community spread cases is in the ICU on a respirator (ie critical, early reports are that person expired), so there are ~20 cases 'out there' (with a YUGE margin of error). That said ... it took a week for Italy to go from 19 positives to over 800. Low numbers shouldn't be too reassuring. And a 2% fatality rate. So there are ~50 cases 'out there' (with a YUGE margin of error).
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Jack says that when he was 8 or 9 he was 'terrorized'. And despite the fact that he's had all these years to come up with an ADULT understanding and response, he hasn't managed. He's still that terrorized child, whose only way to deal with his anxiety is denial. There's something wrong with that picture. And I'm not necessarily faulting Jack. He may have a neurochemistry that leads to extreme anxiety. Or yanno, it could be something else.
But the picture he presents doesn't make sense as normal. No matter how terrorized you felt as a child, sooner or later you stop fearing the boogeyman as an existential threat. Or for my generation, you understand an accidental (or otherwise) nuclear confrontation could snuff you out at any time - AND YOU VOTE ACCORDINGLY - but you don't let it paralyze your life. So, imo, he should have resolved that by now.
And the resolution is ... yes, it exists. Take easy, commonsense precautions and you'll be OK. That situation is under his control.
Are you denying PTSD exists?
I would think that it's even more prevalent among children when they're terrorized.
Maybe one of your science friends should do a study on that, and see how much our Federally Mandated school programs are fucking up the future adults.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:It's not my "religion". I KNEW SOMEONE WHO HAD IT. And seeing as I worked with him closely, I knew that altho he was gay he wasn't a drug addict because he never came to work high. I knew approximately when he got it, why and where, and his initial symptoms and the treatments he was on- which ones were working and which weren't. We used to talk, privately and quietly in the "LIMS room" (our unofficial tiny conference room) about his love life, his situation, his finances, jewelry, office politics etc.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What you probably haven't noticed is that I did leave an opening that there is an extremely small chance that AIDS or something like it does indeed exist. But your own "religion" of science seems to have let you gloss right over that fact.Quote:If you are a male homosexual or in a relationship with a male bisexual or a male who has spent more than a month in prison, you'd better worry about it!
If it does exist, and that is a BIG IF, it is nothing that ANYBODY should ever worry about for a single second of their entire lives.Quote:HIV is the virus. AIDS is the disease (the symptoms). It's like NCOV-19 is the virus, and COVID-19 is the disease. How did your understanding get so fucked up? I know there were rightwingers at the beginning of the epidemic who were convinced that AIDS was not caused by the virus (human immunodefiency virus, HIV) but the "gay lifestyle" of poppers, other drugs, and promiscuity, but as it became clearer and clearer that anti-retrovirals worked to control the symptoms and reduce viral load, I thought that rightwing trope died out. Listening to that being burped back is, like I said, listening to a flat-earther. May as well argue that HepC isn't caused by a virus either.
And it NEVER should have been used to terrorize 2nd graders in schools all over the country who hardly even knew what sex was back in the 80's.
Nilbog's numbers of a related yet very distinctly different disease altogether (HIV) put the number of deaths per year at 16,000 people.
BIG FAT FUCKING NOTHING BURGER.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
IMHO SIX, there's no point in discussing this with you. You won't bring up evidence for your POV, just denial and an experience from 2nd grade, an intensely emotional reaction that is just that: emotional.
Maybe this thread isn't the thread for you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
You've brought up no evidence either.
IMHO, you just bought into a scam.
I'll post wherever I want to. You can leave the thread if I'm annoying you. Fine with me.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:In your mind there seems to be no evidence strong enough to demonstrate that AIDS even exists, let alone is caused by a virus. It's all a hoax. Maybe even the germ theory of disease is a hoax.
SIX: What you probably haven't noticed is that I did leave an opening that there is an extremely small chance that AIDS or something like it does indeed exist. But your own "religion" of science seems to have let you gloss right over that fact.
SIGNY: It's not my "religion". I KNEW SOMEONE WHO HAD IT. And seeing as I worked with him closely, I knew that altho he was gay he wasn't a drug addict because he never came to work high. I knew approximately when he got it, why and where, and his initial symptoms and the treatments he was on- which ones were working and which weren't. We used to talk, privately and quietly in the "LIMS room" (our unofficial tiny conference room) about his love life, his situation, his finances, jewelry, office politics etc.
... IMHO SIX, there's no point in discussing this with you. You won't bring up evidence for your POV, just denial and an experience from 2nd grade, an intensely emotional reaction that is just that: emotional.
Maybe this thread isn't the thread for you
SIX: You've brought up no evidence either.
IMHO, you just bought into a scam.
I'll post wherever I want to. You can leave the thread if I'm annoying you. Fine with me.
I don't mean that you shouldn't post here, just that the topic seems to cause you distress.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:You seem to be run by very strong anxieties. You say when you were a kid you lay awake stressing about imponderables. You worried about your house (which I think drove you to alcoholism), your teeth, and your overall health. It's a pattern you repeat about a lot of things. LIKE COVID-19, that bothered you so much you had to try to convince me to stop posting. But once you decided it was real, your anxieties drove you to conspiracy-land.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you denying PTSD exists?
I would think that it's even more prevalent among children when they're terrorized.
Maybe one of your science friends should do a study on that, and see how much our Federally Mandated school programs are fucking up the future adults.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I'm not criticizing, I'm just observing. It looks like you have extremely powerful reactions you have to deal with.
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Quote:So this is case 62 and 63, right?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
ANYWAY ---
2 new presumptive cases of COVID-19 that appear to be community spread were discovered - one in Washington state and one in Oregon. They're waiting on testing confirmation by the CDC.
60 was the first community case, then 61 was the 2nd community case, as I understand.
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Quote:The numbers I'm seeing at the moment are all over the map! But at this point the most recent cases are 'presumptive' - state authorities tested them as positive, and the results are waiting for CDC confirmation.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So this is case 62 and 63, right?
60 was the first community case, then 61 was the 2nd community case, as I understand.
eta
These are all confirmed cases.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html#investigati
on
Updated February 28, 2020
Travel-related 12
Person-to-person spread 3
Repatriated Wuhan, China 3
Repatriated Diamond Princess Cruise Ship 44
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Quote:Excellent find, right there. Thansk again, I never would have found that in a reasonable timeframe.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:July 15, 2020 ... so near, yet so far away!
https://www.mintpressnews.com/wall-street-behind-delay-declaring-coron
avirus-outbreak-pandemic-bonds/265264/
In June 2017, the World Bank announced the creation of “specialized bonds” that would be used to fund the previously created Pandemic Emergency Financing Facility (PEF) in the event of an officially-recognized (i.e. WHO-recognized) pandemic.
They were essentially sold under the premise that those who invested in the bonds would lose their money if any of six deadly pandemics hit, including coronavirus. Yet, if a pandemic did not occur before the bonds mature on July 15, 2020, investors would receive what they had originally paid for the bonds back in addition to interest and premium payments on those bonds that they receive between the date of purchase and the bond’s maturation date.
How long can Tedros hold out and avoid calling it a pandemic?
(It's somewhat more complicated than that and tied directly to the stock market, so if you're interested in details, go to the linked article.)
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I admit - a personal acquaintance sent it to me. But it seemed significant, so I passed it along.
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This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 18% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 7 % of Inacive cases are fatal.
Italy has surpassed Diamond Princess for 3rd highest totals, and Iran is about to also.
US is in 11th place, with 68 cases and 7 recoveries.
Canada is 22nd place, with 16 cases, 3 recoveries.
I heard that over 61,000 folks died from flu in 2017.
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