new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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SIGNYM

Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:22 PM

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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As for AIDS... I still don't believe it. I've still never known anybody who's known anybody. AIDS was going to kill all of us, is what they said in school. Don't have sex. You will die of AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. SARS, Madcow, Bird Flu, Swine Flue, Killer Bees, Y2K bug, 2012 Mayan calendar, yada, yada, yada...

Jeezus, SIX, you've gone of the deep end. I know someone with AIDS, and you're in touch with me, right?

Give me a little credit. I wasn't running around my hair on fire with Y2K or Mayan calendar. The problems with previously unknown biological agents is that basic information is missing: how infectious is it? What can you do to protect yourself?

I agree with KIKI, take a deep breath, understand that there will be risks over which you have little control, take a more "meta" view.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

1KIKI

Friday, February 28, 2020 2:28 AM

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And then they made a big deal about how great they were at 'containment'. Remember, because they haven't looked anywhere else, it means it doesn't exist anywhere else.

I didn't realize it, but it wasn't that general surveillance just didn't happen by accident. It was because it was not allowed if someone wasn't from a high-risk situation. So there may be all sorts of people out there with COVID-19 that weren't tested by official policy. That makes yesterday's presser about how great containment is more like intentional propaganda.

Anyway, after -- somehow -- testing a person who didn't meet the criteria for being tested, and finding apparent community transmission, the CDC has changed its rules: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/hcp/clinical-criteria.html

Testing is now allowed for serious cases only, like pneumonia, that have no other apparent cause.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 28, 2020 2:37 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-live-updates-first-confi
rmed-case-of-unknown-origin-emerges-in-us-e2-80-94-in-solano-county/ar-BB10qkVP

Coronavirus live updates: First confirmed case of unknown origin emerges in U.S. — in Solano County

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-li
ve-updates/2020/02/26/f889693a-580e-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html

When I mentioned that evidence of a death from COVID19 would include a sprouting of cases in the community, I had assumed the CDC was testing for the cases of the virus.

Well, now we know that the CDC refused for 4 days to test the sample of an infected patient.
Good way to prevent the accurate reporting of the number of cases, by nt testing patients who have it.

I see headlines are saying Solano County, withuot even mentioning it is CA, let alone that it is around San Francisco.
In completely unrelated news, this is the same San Francisco which is home and office to Nancy Pelosi, where the streets and sidewalks are filled with human poop. Yes, people must walk through this COVID-19 infested poop on the sidewalk and in the streets. And people must drive through this poop on the streets, and carry the infectious virus on their tires for as far as they can travel in 9 days. And then the Nancys have the gall to announce that they have no clue how the virus was spread to this newest case, the 60th in America. Shokers, just shockers, theat this was around SF.
It sounds like Travis AFB is also in Solano Co. And with these local workers becoming used to and complacent around the filth of SF poop in the streets, no small wonder they may have contained it as well as the Wuhan Labs and Hospitals.

Obviously, Rosie's sister Nancy is doing a great job.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 28, 2020 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SIX: From when? Now until the end of time?
I'm still not convinced that this isn't just a social experiment.
Huh? An experiment to determine ... what, exactly? Conducted by .... who, exactly?

I dunno. The Deep State? The CDC? Jeff Bezos?

It would probably be good to know how something like this is going to effect society. Not a great plan if it's something that can't be controlled, and I personally think it's foolish to ever think that you could control it in the end.

Maybe somebody made a fast acting superflu that will burn itself out quickly (or at least was designed to in theory), but has a fairly low mortality rate (which I assume is most impacting the elderly and babies as per usual), and they wrote off the losses as less social security they have to pay out and less welfare in the future since poor people are probably impacted higher than rich people as well.

If I'm right, this will get quite a bit worse before it gets better or there's no real merit to the plan. It needs to be scary... at least a little bit. It can't just be something in the news cycle for a few months that nobody is feeling the impact of.

A strain would need to be put on hospitals and infrastructure. You'd need to have data on how much preparation people have already done or will do as things get bad. Will stores be empty? Will schools shut down? How does it effect elections? Will people become more like animals? Will people just getting the regular run of the mill flu start going nuts?

Maybe somebody decided it was time to take the MMORPG virtual study and apply it to the real world.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/corrupted-blood

https://www.wearethemighty.com/warcraft-corrupted-blood-incident-disea
se

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4946772

As for AIDS... I still don't believe it. I've still never known anybody who's known anybody. AIDS was going to kill all of us, is what they said in school. Don't have sex. You will die of AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. SARS, Madcow, Bird Flu, Swine Flue, Killer Bees, Y2K bug, 2012 Mayan calendar, yada, yada, yada...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yes, AIDS is going to kill 2/3 of the world population before 1990 unless draconian measures must be enacted. Yawn. None of those insipid measures were taken.

AIDS is just a hoax. But it has snookered a couple generations so far.

ETA: I've met folk who claim they knew somebody who died of AIDS, or had AIDS. After they overcame their reluctance to share the facts, they always admitted the person was a drug addict, or on drugs known to kill humans, and their death was exactly the version known to follow the type of drugs they were taking. The same end as printed in the medical texts from the 1950s.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 28, 2020 2:46 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-fa
r-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say

Research by team from Nankai University shows new virus has mutated gene similar to those found in HIV and Ebola

When looking at the genome sequence of the new coronavirus, Professor Ruan Jishou and his team at Nankai University in Tianjin found a section of mutated genes that did not exist in Sars, but were similar to those found in HIV and Ebola.

“This finding suggests that 2019-nCoV [the new coronavirus] may be significantly different from the Sars coronavirus in the infection pathway,” the scientists said in a paper published this month on Chinaxiv.org, a platform used by the Chinese Academy of Sciences to release scientific research papers before they have been peer-reviewed.

The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 per cent similarity in genes, it said.

Meanwhile, a study by French scientist Etienne Decroly at Aix-Marseille University, which was published in the scientific journal Antiviral Research on February 10, also found a “furin-like cleavage site” that is absent in similar coronaviruses.

Wait a second. Are thee people deviating from the Fake WHO Definitions of Fake News and Fake Evidence and disinformation?

Are these 2 groups now part of the Fake anti-WHO conspiracy?

Will web search engines need to work 3 times as hard to scrub these 3 sources who all reveal the same thing?

Or are we misunderstanding the real facts?

On the other hand, maybe this isn't so bad, because I don't see the word "insertion" in that quote.

1KIKI

Friday, February 28, 2020 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And then they made a big deal about how great they were at 'containment'. Remember, because they haven't looked anywhere else, it means it doesn't exist anywhere else.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I didn't realize it, but it wasn't that general surveillance just didn't happen by accident. It was because it was not allowed if someone wasn't from a high-risk situation. So there may be all sorts of people out there with COVID-19 that weren't tested by official policy. That makes yesterday's presser about how great containment is more like intentional propaganda.

Anyway, after -- somehow -- testing a person who didn't meet the criteria for being tested, and finding apparent community transmission, the CDC has changed its rules: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/hcp/clinical-criteria.html

Testing is now allowed for serious cases only, like pneumonia, that have no other apparent cause.

I should have expounded on my previous post.

The medical /scientific /public health people standing up with Trump all knew the score about how pathetically limited testing was. And yet they stood up there with Trump to support the idea this was well under control. They abandoned any medical and scientific integrity they might ever have had to support political propaganda.

The only person who told the truth in this whole affair - and I guarantee she's being punished for it - was Dr. Messonnier.

1KIKI

Friday, February 28, 2020 3:14 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Yes, AIDS is going to kill 2/3 of the world population before 1990 unless draconian measures must be enacted. Yawn. None of those insipid measures were taken.

AIDS is just a hoax. But it has snookered a couple generations so far.

ETA: I've met folk who claim they knew somebody who died of AIDS, or had AIDS. After they overcame their reluctance to share the facts, they always admitted the person was a drug addict, or on drugs known to kill humans, and their death was exactly the version known to follow the type of drugs they were taking. The same end as printed in the medical texts from the 1950s.

In 1981 the first baffling outbreaks of disease - Kaposi's sarcoma and Pneumocystis carinii - are identified in gay men.

Jeeze, JSF, it's like you got one message 40 years ago and haven't learned anything since. I honestly never imagined such abysmal ignorance could exist anywhere except backwards countries ruled by religion, superstition, and rumor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_HIV/AIDS

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, February 28, 2020 4:33 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Yes, AIDS is going to kill 2/3 of the world population before 1990 unless draconian measures must be enacted. Yawn. None of those insipid measures were taken.

AIDS is just a hoax. But it has snookered a couple generations so far.

ETA: I've met folk who claim they knew somebody who died of AIDS, or had AIDS. After they overcame their reluctance to share the facts, they always admitted the person was a drug addict, or on drugs known to kill humans, and their death was exactly the version known to follow the type of drugs they were taking. The same end as printed in the medical texts from the 1950s.
In 1981 the first baffling outbreaks of disease - Kaposi's sarcoma and Pneumocystis carinii - are identified in gay men.

Jeeze, JSF, it's like you got one message 40 years ago and haven't learned anything since. I honestly never imagined such abysmal ignorance could exist anywhere except backwards countries ruled by religion, superstition, and rumor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_HIV/AIDS

We've all heard the supposed history and timeline of AIDS.

That doesn't mean that we all believe it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Friday, February 28, 2020 8:21 AM

Well ... ahem! since I was there, working in the medical arena at the time - I don't have to 'believe' it. I saw it. So I know it's true.

As for you, you seem to think it's a matter of religious 'belief'. OK, if you want to make that your religion that's fine by me.

But your religion isn't going to convince my facts. And personally I'd rather live in the real world, instead of your fantasy 'if I believe it enough it'll be true' world.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, February 28, 2020 9:34 AM

Just anecdotal "evidence" as far as I'm concerned.

AIDS isn't likely to be real.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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