new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Research by team from Nankai University shows new virus has mutated gene similar to those found in HIV and Ebola
When looking at the genome sequence of the new coronavirus, Professor Ruan Jishou and his team at Nankai University in Tianjin found a section of mutated genes that did not exist in Sars, but were similar to those found in HIV and Ebola.
“This finding suggests that 2019-nCoV [the new coronavirus] may be significantly different from the Sars coronavirus in the infection pathway,” the scientists said in a paper published this month on Chinaxiv.org, a platform used by the Chinese Academy of Sciences to release scientific research papers before they have been peer-reviewed.
The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 per cent similarity in genes, it said.
Meanwhile, a study by French scientist Etienne Decroly at Aix-Marseille University, which was published in the scientific journal Antiviral Research on February 10, also found a “furin-like cleavage site” that is absent in similar coronaviruses.
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We conducted investigation on patients in a local hospital who were infected with this virus. We found the presence of 2019-nCoV in anal swabs and blood as well, and more anal swab positives than oral swab positives in a later stage of infection, suggesting shedding and thereby transmitted through oral–fecal route. We also showed serology test can improve detection positive rate thus should be used in future epidemiology. Our report provides a cautionary warning that 2019-nCoV may be shed through multiple routes.
(comment: also possibly urine)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1729071
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OK - I look like a dweeb.
But I carry IPA wipes, hand sanitizer, and masks in my purse. When I go to the restaurant, I wipe off wherever I'm going to touch (I've been doing it for a while - I always say - never mind me, I'm just being paranoid), make sure no one is coughing or ill around me, when I leave I use hand sanitizer after handling money ... and I put on a mask to start running my errands. If it looks too dicey, I'll give up the restaurant entirely.
Just today I bought more hand sanitizer, and like the last time, I gifted one to Walgreens at the checkout counter. I'll gift even more wherever they'll take them, but the small places I usually go seem reluctant to make people nervous by putting out hand sanitizer.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
The deal is this: the NCov-19 is incredibly infectious. Scientists now claim to have found HIV-like sequences on the Wuhan virus' surface ... this time repeated between Chinese and EU labs ... which make the virus 100-1000 more efficient at infecting human cells than the SARS virus. And altho this virus is less deadly than SARS (2% for NCov-19 and 8-10% for SARS) it's infectivity more than makes up for it's lowered mortality rate. Plus, the whole problem of reinfection had not been resolved.
It's best to limit your exposure to large groups of people: restaurants, sports events, gyms, theme parks, airports, train stations, buses ... I would wear a mask, if only to remind yourself not to touch you nose, mouth, or (hopefully) eyes without washing and sanitizing your hands first.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
From when? Now until the end of time?
I'm still not convinced that this isn't just a social experiment.
Does anybody here know somebody who has it or even know somebody who knows somebody?
Its been something like 32 years and I've never known somebody with AIDS or known anybody who knew anybody with AIDS.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I know people with HIV. I knew people who died of AIDS. It's not something people just causally mention in conversation. They have to trust you pretty well, in general.
As for SARS-COV-2 - nope, I don't know anybody who admits to it.
But yanno what I've been saying all along - it's been over 6 weeks since I had the flu, and I'm STILL coughing! I intend to not catch anything else for the next year.
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Quote:Huh? An experiment to determine ... what, exactly? Conducted by .... who, exactly?
SIGNY: The deal is this: the NCov-19 is incredibly infectious. Scientists now claim to have found HIV-like sequences on the Wuhan virus' surface ... this time repeated between Chinese and EU labs ... which make the virus 100-1000 more efficient at infecting human cells than the SARS virus. And altho this virus is less deadly than SARS (2% for NCov-19 and 8-10% for SARS) it's infectivity more than makes up for it's lowered mortality rate. Plus, the whole problem of reinfection had not been resolved.
It's best to limit your exposure to large groups of people: restaurants, sports events, gyms, theme parks, airports, train stations, buses ... I would wear a mask, if only to remind yourself not to touch you nose, mouth, or (hopefully) eyes without washing and sanitizing your hands first.
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SIX: From when? Now until the end of time?
I'm still not convinced that this isn't just a social experiment.
Quote:I know someone with AIDS. In fact, I was there when he came down with the symptoms of initial infection and he was trying to explain it away as a gastrointestinal bug. I didn't have the heart to tell him that I thought he was wrong, but I DID urge him to see a doctor (which he did, fortunately).
Does anybody here know somebody who has it or even know somebody who knows somebody?
Its been something like 32 years and I've never known somebody with AIDS or known anybody who knew anybody with AIDS.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Given that the doubling rate is somewhere in the realm of 4-5 days ... very dependent on cultural circumstances ... if you're in the military sleeping in barracks and showering and eating together in the mess tent, the doubling time would probably by a lot shorter, but I digress ... given that the doubling time is 4-5 days, we will know, even with our lackluster (if not deliberately blindfolded) testing, in a month whether this is something that withers away, like the SARS and swine flu epidemics, or is a real problem.
IN THE MEANTIME, I don't intend to be one of those people who assumes everything is fine because nobody in government has said any different.
SIX, you're probably safer in Indianna than I am near LA. LA, San Diego, NYC, Seattle ... any city with a port and a large Asian population is going to be the canary in the coalmine. You get to get out the popcorn and watch, at least for a couple of weeks.
Oh ... churches. Don't go there, either.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:Huh? An experiment to determine ... what, exactly? Conducted by .... who, exactly?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX: From when? Now until the end of time?
I'm still not convinced that this isn't just a social experiment.
I dunno. The Deep State? The CDC? Jeff Bezos?
It would probably be good to know how something like this is going to effect society. Not a great plan if it's something that can't be controlled, and I personally think it's foolish to ever think that you could control it in the end.
Maybe somebody made a fast acting superflu that will burn itself out quickly (or at least was designed to in theory), but has a fairly low mortality rate (which I assume is most impacting the elderly and babies as per usual), and they wrote off the losses as less social security they have to pay out and less welfare in the future since poor people are probably impacted higher than rich people as well.
If I'm right, this will get quite a bit worse before it gets better or there's no real merit to the plan. It needs to be scary... at least a little bit. It can't just be something in the news cycle for a few months that nobody is feeling the impact of.
A strain would need to be put on hospitals and infrastructure. You'd need to have data on how much preparation people have already done or will do as things get bad. Will stores be empty? Will schools shut down? How does it effect elections? Will people become more like animals? Will people just getting the regular run of the mill flu start going nuts?
Maybe somebody decided it was time to take the MMORPG virtual study and apply it to the real world.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/corrupted-blood
https://www.wearethemighty.com/warcraft-corrupted-blood-incident-disea
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https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4946772
As for AIDS... I still don't believe it. I've still never known anybody who's known anybody. AIDS was going to kill all of us, is what they said in school. Don't have sex. You will die of AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. SARS, Madcow, Bird Flu, Swine Flue, Killer Bees, Y2K bug, 2012 Mayan calendar, yada, yada, yada...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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"As for AIDS... I still don't believe it. I've still never known anybody who's known anybody." Hey, I'm not nobody!
And OMG - Jack, you've become JO, except he thinks it's all RUSSIA!!! all the time, and you think it's 'them'.
However, watching the 2 of you I've come up with a formula for paranoia - take 1 smart guy ~ 40-60 yrs old, and leave them alone in their house for a few months / years ...
Finally ... this must have hit you in a weak spot at a bad time. You're still SAD, you've just come out of major mouth surgery, and, too bad for you, you were born to be anxiety-prone. I know situations you don't feel capable of dealing with put you into a whole lot of stress. But unresolvable situations are going to happen here and there all through your life, Jack. The house, your teeth, were never going to be the only things.
So, in your relatively safe situation, this may be a good time to try to come up with a way of dealing with those kind of life events in general.
But in particular Jack, your chances of catching anything are very low. You're in an isolated part of the country, and you yourself lead an isolated life. To put this in as realistic terms as possible, you'll probably be in the group who'll be isolated enough that you won't have to deal with this, and then in a few months there will be a vaccine for you.
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Trump's happy talk is counterproductive at this point.
Trump is giving people false hope if he tells them coronavirus is going to simply be kept at bay in far-off places. Infection may sweep across the country with a lot of people getting sick, and doing further mitigation on an individual community level is going to be inconvenient and annoying. Precisely because it will be annoying, however, it would be helpful for the president and his appointees to start delivering a consistent message about how to get ready so as to minimize the inconvenience.
It’s obvious that President Trump has the stock market on his mind when he’s thinking about coronavirus, as evidenced by the two times during a press conference Wednesday evening when he blamed Democrats for the market’s fall.
That’s unseemly on its own terms, but it also seems to be driving a certain amount of happy talk from the president and his economic team, who keep contradicting clear messages from public health officials that a pandemic is likely.
Instead of accepting this, Trump tried to be reassuring, arguing that “the risk to the American people remains very low” and “I don’t think it’s inevitable” that the disease will spread. He said a vaccine is being developed “rapidly,” only to have Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, clarify that in this context that means one is 12 to 18 months away.
And he angrily demanded credit for having restricted travel from China earlier, saying that subsequent events had vindicated him — a typical egomaniacal gesture from the president. But more to the point, it’s a sign that he continues to take undue refuge in the hope that the outbreak can be contained rather than endured.
The truth is, however, that investors and corporate decision makers with money on the line can and will take the time to listen carefully to what the experts are saying. Markets have fallen because the news they have to offer is simply not that good. The president is not going to meaningfully alter the trajectory of the stock market by downplaying the realities. He could, however, reduce the number of people who take adequate preparative steps now while the situation is still calm.
More at www.vox.com/2020/2/27/21155394/trump-coronavirus-press-conference-stoc
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Hospitals and doctors offices... avoid those too, if you don't need to go.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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