new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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testing ... one, two, three ... testing
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/cdc-warns-us-covid-
19-spread-labs-frustrated-over-lack-tests
Test kits available 'soon,' but labs frustrated
Messonnier also addressed the stall in getting testing kits to state and local health departments.
"I am frustrated that we have had issues with our test. I want to assure you we are hoping to modify the kits and hope to send them soon," Messonnier said.
She also pointed out that the CDC was testing as many as 400 samples at a time and providing overnight results. "There is no current backlog or delay," she said.
On Feb 12, the CDC announced that several test kits sent to public health labs had an issue with a test reagent, which caused the negative control to generate a test response where there should have been none.
When pressed on when specifically the kits will be made available, Messonnier did not provide a date.
Currently, only 12 labs outside of the CDC—located in California, Illinois, Nebraska, Nevada, and Tennessee—have the capability to test for the virus. Peter Kyriacopoulos, the chief policy officer for APHL, told CIDRAP News the testing process could be dramatically shortened and expanded if 100 Association of Public Health Laboratories (APHL)-member labs receive authorization to do their own tests.
He said yesterday that the APHL addressed a letter to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) asking for permission for member laboratories to use lab-developed tests between now and when the improved CDC kit is re-sent. Permission has to be granted because the FDA already issued Emergency Use Authorization for the CDC's test.
"We know because of the prevalence of this issue in the media, many of our labs may be called to do testing, and they will want to be responsive," said Kyriacopoulos. He explained that the labs could do manual extraction of the virus RNA, but testing would be more streamlined if they were allowed to use automated RNA extraction platforms. He said the automatic extraction devices would cost each lab about $200,000.
Joanne Barkus, PhD, the director of the Public Health Laboratory at the Minnesota Department of Health, said she is frustrated by the delay.
"We are trying to prepare for what I feel will be inevitable—a case in Minnesota—and we will want to expand testing," she told CIDRAP News. Right now, Barkus said the CDC was keeping up with test demands. But that could easily be changed if multiple community detections occur across the country and state epidemiologists begin testing case contacts en masse.
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1kiki, what does Trump do when the test is positive for coronavirus? Nothing. Nothing at all. The patient decides. Maybe they go home. Maybe not. Trump really does not want to get involved, but when it was Obama's problem Trump wanted Obama to do something involuntarily to the patient. Trump wanted to keep those people testing positive out of the country. Or forced into isolation.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Apparently Azar is in league with this evil! "“We cannot hermetically seal off the United States to a virus,” Alex M. Azar II, the secretary of health and humans services, told a Senate panel on Tuesday. “And we need to be realistic about that.” Mr. Azar said he was alarmed by the human-to-human transmission of the virus in other parts of the world without an identifiable connection to confirmed cases, and what that could mean for how the virus may hit the United States in the coming months."
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:So?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Yeah, sure.
This coming from the sister of Rod Rosenstein.Quote:You mean making this announcement was her one and only anti-Trump sally? OOC, if in her position at the CDC you think she SHOULDN'T be making this kind of announcement - who at the CDC do you think should?
And is a rabid anti-Trumper.
https://theunionjournal.com/just-like-her-corrupt-brother-rod-rosenste
in-the-cdcs-dr-nancy-messonnier-drops-a-bomb-on-president-trump-while-on-international-trip/Quote:
Yep, we should believe everything she says. Trust your life on it.
When the bullets are coming from all directions, you're not going to be able to take cover and avoid them all. As more and more countries find cases, you can be sure EVEN MORE cases are UNfound, and in EVEN MORE countries. You can't seal off the borders from the entire planet. Testing is too flawed to provide meaningful protection. SOONER OR LATER, it's going to arrive. And not just from some sketchy location to go immediately into quarantine. But from a nondescript anywhere, ready to disappear into the crowd. That's just logic.
hmmm
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/25/odd-coincidence-rogue-
cdc-official-pushing-coronavirus-panic-button-is-rod-rosensteins-sister/
Maybe I'm missing something.
Her tone is counter to the message of the Trump Administration, and Azar.
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https://www.c-span.org/video/?469633-1/lawmakers-question-hhs-secretar
y-azar-coronavirus-preparedness-2021-budget&start=2265
There was a lot of wrangling over livers for transplant availability, the timing of the supplemental request and so forth. But when it comes to whether or not Azar was on the same page with the CDC, I'd say yes.
Not shouting here, it's how the session was transcribed:
AZAR:
WE WORK TO CONTAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT AT SOME POINT, IF THERE IS SOME SUSTAINED HUMAN TO HUMAN TRANSPORT, WE HOPE TO MITIGATE. I WAS VERY CLEAR WHEN WE ENACTED CONTAINMENT MEASURES AT THE BORDER, WE CANNOT MEDICALLY SEAL OFF THE UNITED STATES TO A VIRUS AND WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD BE CONCERNING AT THE VIRUS SPREADS TO AFRICA OR OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE LESS DEVELOPED PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THE STEPS TOWARDS MITIGATION AND CONTAINMENT THAT WE WOULD TAKE HERE. IT WOULD SPREAD RAPIDLY. THIS IS WHY IT IS SO CRITICAL TO GET BETTER DATA OUT OF CHINA SO WE KNOW THE SEVERITY AND WHAT THE MORTALITY RATES REALLY ARE HERE, SO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IN TERMS OF IMPACT.
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https://www.c-span.org/video/?469708-1/hhs-officials-hold-news-confere
nce-coronavirus
I read the presser and it was laughable. I didn't count how MANY times they crowed about the claim that the only cases they've found in the US were from China, the Diamond Princess, or from known transmission.
But they repeated it it in all seriousness despite the fact that those are the only places they've looked !!
Yep. They only looked in a few places but they're SURE it isn't anywhere else! Because by gum, they're sure!
And then they made a big deal about how great they were at 'containment'. Remember, because they haven't looked anywhere else, it means it doesn't exist anywhere else.
What a joke.
What a travesty.
I'm completely disgusted at the shit they threw around.
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Coronavirus Is Deadlier Than the Flu
The mortality rate of the COVID-19 virus is about 2 percent so far.
In the United States, the flu mortality rate is about 0.13 percent.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/02/coronavirus-is-deadlier-than-th
e-flu/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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It's interesting, the coverage had been so different than the SARS and Ebola outbreaks.
Everyone is trying to either weaponize the info, or defend against it. When the epidemic was strictly in China, there was either no coverage at all, or critics were given inordinate platform with the seeming intent to destabilize the Chinese government. In the meantime the Chinese government was doing its best to avoid being pilloried by fudging the numbers.
Meanwhile, discussion of it's eventual spread to the USA was moribund. It wasn't until the M$M figured out a way to weaponize it against Trump that they started making a big deal about it ... Yanno, like shitstain. Where is the responsible journalism? Lying on the floor, fatally infected with ideology.
Not that there isn't a serious problem, but what did Obama's chief of staff, Rham Emanuel, say? Never let a serious crisis go to waste? Lots of vested interests are going to try and spin this to their advantage.
If you want to come out of this less scathed I think you better ignore Trump, ignore the press, ignore the hysteria, and make your preparations
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:It’s dangerous for governments to claim the coronavirus outbreak is under control
Originally posted by SignyM:
If you want to come out of this less scathed I think you better ignore Trump, ignore the press, ignore the hysteria, and make your preparations.
Just days before the Chinese government locked down Wuhan, the city at the center of the coronavirus outbreak, health authorities said the spread of the virus was “preventable and controllable.” A week before South Korea reported a surge in confirmed cases traced to a religious cult, the president said the country had brought the virus “well under control.” And this week, US president Donald Trump tweeted that the coronavirus is “very much under control in the USA.”
These sorts of pronouncements by public officials may be calculated to reassure the public and shore up people’s confidence in the government. But risk communication experts say such messages are often over-reassuring and over-confident, resulting in a potentially dangerous mismatch between people’s perception of risk and actual reality. The hazards posed by this mismatch are particularly pronounced during an epidemic like the current Covid-19 outbreak, when developments are rapid, time is of the essence, and much hinges on the coordinated responses of government agencies and the public.
“When the officials and the experts are trying to prepare or calm the public, their responsibility… is to recreate in the public the same level of fear or lack of fear as their own,” said Jody Lanard, a risk communication consultant who has advised the World Health Organization (WHO). The public shouldn’t be any more scared or calm than government officials and health authorities—but while this kind of calibration is “conceptually easy… it’s incredibly hard to do if you’re afraid of public fear,” she added.
Dismissing the public’s fears might even run the real risk of fanning fears further. Government officials and the WHO have repeatedly said that now is the time for “facts, not fear.” While facts are crucially important, the admonition also effectively gives the impression that the public’s emotions are just annoyances to be dealt with. But in an epidemic with so much uncertainty, fear is both natural and inevitable.
“The government needs to learn to tolerate that the public will get frightened, without thinking that the public is hysterical or panic stricken,” said Lanard. Every epidemic has a series of what she calls “oh my god moments“—the first death, for example, or the first child to fall critically ill—that cause alarm and anguish. What governments need to do, she said, is to guide the public to “go through that upset a little bit in advance so that they’re a little bit more prepared when the real things happen.”
US officials risk compromising their credibility by contradicting each other, with the White House insisting that the virus is contained, while the Center for Disease Control tells the public to start preparing for community spreading and San Francisco declaring an emergency.
“In short, the whole thing is a master class in how to screw up communications during a crisis and utterly undermine trust in the agencies that will be essential for public health and safety as the epidemic spreads,” wrote Carl Bergstrom, a professor of biology at the University of Washington.
https://qz.com/1807975/why-governments-shouldnt-claim-coronavirus-is-u
nder-control/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The deal is this: the NCov-19 is incredibly infectious. Scientists now claim to have found HIV-like sequences on the Wuhan virus' surface ... this time repeated between Chinese and EU labs ... which make the virus 100-1000 more efficient at infecting human cells than the SARS virus. And altho this virus is less deadly than SARS (2% for NCov-19 and 8-10% for SARS) it's infectivity more than makes up for it's lowered mortality rate. Plus, the whole problem of reinfection had not been resolved.
It's best to limit your exposure to large groups of people: restaurants, sports events, gyms, theme parks, airports, train stations, buses ... you should wear a mask, if only to remind yourself not to touch you nose, mouth, or (hopefully) eyes without washing and sanitizing your hands first.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-live-updates-first-confi
rmed-case-of-unknown-origin-emerges-in-us-e2-80-94-in-solano-county/ar-BB10qkVP
Coronavirus live updates: First confirmed case of unknown origin emerges in U.S. — in Solano County
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-li
ve-updates/2020/02/26/f889693a-580e-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html
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