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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 5:05 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You failed to mention how long Chicago will be without any parking meter revenue and the fact that the Chicago police still need to enforce them on the taxpayer dollar.

SPOILER ALERT: Everybody here will be long dead before that contract expires. Probably four or five decades before it does.

Democrats are stupid.

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I agree that Chicagoans are stupid and 99% can't understand how to calculate the present value of a stream of revenue stretching out over 75 years. They are also stupid to sell their parking meters mainly because they don't want to pay taxes for running the day-to-day operation of their city. But, if self-driving cars become common in Chicago, the revenue from parking meters will go to zero since the cars drive away and never have to park downtown. In that case, selling the parking meters for $1.16 Billion will seem to be brilliant in retrospect from the year 2050, since parking meters are now worthless unless you drive an antique car that still has a steering wheel.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:37 PM

Trump awards Rush Limbaugh the Nation’s highest honor during the State of the Union in an accurate assessment of how we all got here.

Said Trump, “He is the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet, Rush Limbaugh. Thank you for your decades of devotion to our country. And Rush, in recognition of all you have done for our nation — the millions of people today that you speak to and that you inspire and all of the incredible work you have done for charity — I am proud to announce tonight you will be receiving our country’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom.”

This is appropriate; as the increasingly prominent voice of sour, sarcastic, nasty white-male contempt, Limbaugh did contribute a great deal to our changing American society. Thirty-five years ago, he was a small-time radio host on a station in Sacramento. Twenty-five years ago, he was being cited as an inspiration by hard-line Republican congressmen and radio imitators like Indianapolis-area personality Mike Pence. Pence would go on to write, in a Rush-style 2001 “reality check” column, that connections between smoking and fatal disease are overblown by nanny-state politicians and “the media.” Limbaugh, an ostentatious cigar smoker, has lung cancer.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-gives-rush-limbaugh-
the-medal-of-freedom-during-the-state-of-the-union.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You failed to mention how long Chicago will be without any parking meter revenue and the fact that the Chicago police still need to enforce them on the taxpayer dollar.

SPOILER ALERT: Everybody here will be long dead before that contract expires. Probably four or five decades before it does.

Democrats are stupid.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I agree that Chicagoans are stupid and 99% can't understand how to calculate the present value of a stream of revenue stretching out over 75 years. They are also stupid to sell their parking meters mainly because they don't want to pay taxes for running the day-to-day operation of their city. But, if self-driving cars become common in Chicago, the revenue from parking meters will go to zero since the cars drive away and never have to park downtown. In that case, selling the parking meters for $1.16 Billion will seem to be brilliant in retrospect from the year 2050, since parking meters are now worthless unless you drive an antique car that still has a steering wheel.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That's not an answer.

https://www.wbez.org/shows/morning-shift/what-lori-lightfoot-can-do-ab
out-the-citys-parking-meter-deal/100bc19d-caf7-4599-8f67-70ea5258f854


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Other cities looked to Chicago’s parking meter deal and they concluded that this was really not the way to go. It turns out that just 13 years into the deal, by 2021, the investors will recoup their entire $1.15 billion investment. So that leaves them with 62 years just to rake in profits.


If EVERYBODY isn't using self driving cars in Chicago by next year, they've already lost money.

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if Chicago ever wants to take a parking space out of service, it has to pay exorbitant fees. This means that it’s really hard for the city to do things like build bus lanes, build bike lanes, plant trees … and this comes at a time when demand for parking in the United States and worldwide is declining, and cities are really starting to rethink what their streets can do. So really what Mayor Lightfoot needs to do is renegotiate the deal so that it gives the city autonomy to control its streets again.


AND if the city wants to do something, they have to pay exorbitant fees to the owners for every parking meter that is out of commission until the work is done. They paid out $20,000,000 last year alone.

AND the city police who are paid by the tax payers have to manage them and do all the work while these people sit back and collect the money.

AND when they recoup their investment next year, they still have 62 more years of sitting back and collecting money.



THIS is what Democrats in big cities do. This is why so many people are fleeing states like Illinois and California.

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Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

THIS is what Democrats in big cities do. This is why so many people are fleeing states like Illinois and California.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

California is doing fine:

Sorry Donald, But California Is Kicking Ass

Last night, as Donald Trump was taking one of his usual shots at the socialist hellhole of California, I womped up a chart of economic growth by state since the end of the Great Recession. California turned out to be the fastest growing big state in the country.

But you might have missed it, so let’s do it again. This time, though, let’s do growth of per capita GDP so we account for population growth. Here are the results for the ten biggest states in the nation:



This time it’s not even a close call. California is by far the fastest growing state since 2010, posting an increase in per capita state product from $55,000 to $68,000. Trump can throw out all the insults he wants about climate change, immigrants, and regulations, but the numbers don’t lie. California is kicking ass.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/02/sorry-donald-but-california-is-
kicking-ass
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:00 PM

While many conservatives continue to argue that LBJ’s Great Society constituted a massive failure, the programs created a basic floor of rights and benefits that most Americans now consider part of the fundamental fabric of our nation. When Johnson became president, Congress was as gridlocked as today. In the early 1960s, a bipartisan coalition of southern Democrats and Republicans who controlled the major committees refused to allow most liberal policies to pass through their gates, especially civil rights laws to end desegregation and ensure the protection of voting rights. It was unclear whether LBJ would be able to break the roadblock that had stifled Kennedy on most issues.

It took enormous grassroots activism to break through. The Great Society could get started only because the civil rights movement created unbearable pressure on members of Congress to support the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

When Johnson delivered his Great Society speech on May 22, 1964, at the University of Michigan, he called Americans to a higher purpose. In the midst of social convulsions and divisions, Johnson offered a vision of American freedom born of our bedrock values -- tolerance, pluralism and the rule of law -- and he challenged Americans to extend the benefits and responsibilities of those values to everyone, expanding our notion of American citizenship.

Johnson's argument was simple: For America to fulfill its purpose, it needed to expand its definition of freedom to include all Americans, and in so doing build a country where actual economic opportunity might, for the first time, accompany that freedom.

The policy outcomes of Johnson's clarion call remain unprecedented. The Great Society guaranteed health care coverage to the elderly and the medically indigent, ended legally sanctioned segregation, and made it possible for millions of younger Americans to attend colleges and universities, often for the first time in their families' history.

In addition to Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights legislation and the Higher Education Act, in a relatively short span of time Congress also passed federal aid for elementary education, food stamps, Head Start, immigration reform that ended the quota system put into place in 1924, arts funding, a war on poverty and more.

Even as detractors raged against the changes taking hold, those on the left and right built on Johnson's foundation. Richard Nixon's Environmental Protection Agency was the fruit of Johnson's environmental protection legislation. Tea Party activists holding up signs that read "Keep Your Government Hands Off My Medicare" as they opposed President Obama's Affordable Care Act proposal was a significant expression of acceptance on the right of the basic premise of the Great Society.

More at www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/opinions/lbj-great-society-solution-to-trump-ba
rnes-zelizer/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, February 7, 2020 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

THIS is what Democrats in big cities do. This is why so many people are fleeing states like Illinois and California.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

California is doing fine:

Sorry Donald, But California Is Kicking Ass

Last night, as Donald Trump was taking one of his usual shots at the socialist hellhole of California, I womped up a chart of economic growth by state since the end of the Great Recession. California turned out to be the fastest growing big state in the country.

But you might have missed it, so let’s do it again. This time, though, let’s do growth of per capita GDP so we account for population growth. Here are the results for the ten biggest states in the nation:



This time it’s not even a close call. California is by far the fastest growing state since 2010, posting an increase in per capita state product from $55,000 to $68,000. Trump can throw out all the insults he wants about climate change, immigrants, and regulations, but the numbers don’t lie. California is kicking ass.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/02/sorry-donald-but-california-is-
kicking-ass
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I'm not talking about GDP.

I'm talking about people fleeing the state. Those numbers don't get displaced by illegals either, except in the diseased far-leftist brain.

It's cool. though. It will be people who won't vote Democrat who are leaving California.

Democrats have turned that state into a shithole, and they are also taxing everybody out of Illinois as well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 7, 2020 4:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It will be people who won't vote Democrat who are leaving California.

CODE RED
How Progressives and Moderates Can Unite to Save Our Country
By E. J. Dionne Jr.

E. J. Dionne Jr. has spent a career searching for common ground among opposing groups, in the hope that it can become the foundation of a politics of consensus. In books like “Why Americans Hate Politics” (1991) and “Our Divided Political Heart” (2012), he tried to chart a course between left and right, suggesting that if we peer across the political divide with clearer eyes and more open minds, we can begin to build a postpolarization politics.

As part of this endeavor, he has often chided the right for its mounting extremism, but he never wrote it off. Which is why Dionne’s latest book should send our alarm bells shrieking. Though written in the same patient, even soothing, voice as his earlier works, the narrowed scope of “Code Red: How Progressives and Moderates Can Unite to Save Our Country” shows how much his view of politics has changed. The right barely factors into this new bridge-building project. Conservatives are, for all intents and purposes, a lost cause.

This means “Code Red” is not yet another call for bipartisanship (thank goodness). Nor is it a plea for centrism, which in an earlier era had been a defining feature of Dionne’s work. Here he has abandoned the idea of a center poised between left and right. “The political center cannot be defined as a halfway point between Democrats and a Republican Party that has veered far to the right,” Dionne writes. Instead it is something to be negotiated within the Democratic Party.

As a result, Dionne pleads with moderates and progressives to see one another as allies who have far more in common than they might think. And while his past calls for political unity seem to have failed, there’s reason to hope this one might succeed. The rise of Donald Trump and the radicalization of the right have been unifying forces for moderates and progressives. While the two factions disagree sharply on proposals like Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, they share a distress and disgust with the Trump presidency and the growing right-wing extremism that preceded it.

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/books/review/code-red-e-j-dionne-jr.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, February 7, 2020 7:26 PM

The only problem with Code Red is that it's a work of fiction.



https://web.archive.org/web/20190317091836/https://www.economist.com/u
nited-states/2018/09/20/far-left-candidates-did-poorly-in-the-democratic-primaries


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 7, 2020 9:24 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The only problem with Code Red is that it's a work of fiction.

The point of Code Red is that Democrats don't agree with Republicans and they should stop trying to modify themselves to make the Democratic Party more appealing to Trump voters. Why would a Trump voter vote for the Democrats' weak and watered down version of Trumpism when they can get the pure undiluted full-strength drink from Trump? What is wrong with Bernie, Biden and Warren? They are too damn old. Trump is too old, but he is also a criminal.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, February 7, 2020 10:37 PM

lol

No. The point is that the left has moved FAR left while the right has barely moved since the 80's.

The further left they move the more they will lose.

He can take his Code Red and shove it up his ass.

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