new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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If they're releasing cases here, the CDC isn't worried about it.
I don't mean to sound like the biggest cynic in the world, but I don't think there is any way that our own government wouldn't be locking these people up and swallowing the key (or worse) if they were worried about a massive outbreak.
Then again, this could all be the beginnings of Agenda 2030 or whatever they're calling it now (yanno, the part only the conspiracy theorists talk about that has to do with culling the population). Anything is possible.
I'm still not going to lose any sleep over it either way.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Jeeze Jack, I know * I'm * not worried! And I've said so many times! But you seem to think no one could just be - yanno - interested. Because it's interesting, unusual, different ....
YOU OTOH have repeated yourself so often WHEN NO ONE IS WORRIED I think you must be projecting your worries onto everyone else.
So STOP WORRYING!
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Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Well you certainly SEEM to be all anxious over it! Because you just can't stand it when anyone posts about it.
So take a chill pill, dude!
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I've added some comments by way of explanation, and to highlight things I think are interesting. But this is a poorly written article (IMO) with many interpolated and recursive trains of thought, so the relevance of some of my comments may be spread over more than one paragraph. (In the past I've rearranged such articles, but I'm not going to bother here.)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/04/health/coronavirus-slow-strategy-cdc/in
dex.html
(CNN)It has been two weeks since the first US case of Wuhan coronavirus was announced, and the US strategy to fight it has become clear: It's impossible to stop this virus right now -- it can only be slowed down. That's to slow down the R0 to less than one. If you do that, you'll eventually stop the spread and contain it. As long as the R0 is greater than 1, the virus is still spreading faster than it's being contained.
There are several reasons why.
First, people are flying into the United States every day from China, where the newly discovered virus has infected thousands of people. While there are health screenings at US airports, quarantines for some passengers and even limits on who is allowed into the United States, a government official says there's no way to catch every infected person. Mass screening is one tool. Contact ID and testing is another.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention expects to find more coronavirus cases in the United States, and more cases involving person-to-person transmission. Still, it says, the risk to the American public is low. Very true.
"It's important to know that this strategy is not meant to catch every single traveler returning from China with novel coronavirus," Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a press briefing Monday. "Given the nature of this virus and how it's spreading, that would be impossible. But working together, we can catch the majority of them."
The goal instead is "to slow the entry of this virus into the United States," she said.
It's now a much more daunting task to screen travelers from China than during the SARS outbreak in 2003, said Dr. William Schaffner, a longtime CDC adviser.
SARS -- or severe acute respiratory syndrome -- also originated in China.
"The volume of travel has hugely increased since then," he said. "We have many, many more people travelling to and from the interior of China than we used to have. That makes this a much greater challenge."
Another factor that makes the current outbreak challenging is that, as the number of cases grows, it becomes more and more difficult to do what disease detectives call contact tracing: tracking down everyone these infected people have had contact with and then, if necessary, testing those people for the virus.
In just two weeks, 11 people in the United States have tested positive for the Wuhan coronavirus. To put that in perspective, during the entire SARS outbreak, there were just eight laboratory confirmed cases over a period of many months, according to the CDC.
In the current outbreak, with so many cases in such a short period of time, "your resources become swamped," Schaffner said.
The US Food and Drug Administration announced on Tuesday it authorized emergency use of the CDC-developed coronavirus test in qualified labs around the United States. Previously, the test for the Wuhan coronavirus could only be performed at CDC headquarters in Atlanta. And that's a problem! One wants quick turn-around! As of Monday, the agency has tested 178 people, and all but 11 have been negative. In addition, 82 specimens are on the way to the CDC or awaiting testing there.
The CDC had said it was trying to get the test out to state health d
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Well... again, if the CDC were really all that concerned (or if they actually wanted to stop it, in the conspiracy theorists POV), we could just temporarily shut down all flights from China, or given the fact that it's spreading all over the world, we could shut down all fights into America period, indefinitely.
Hopefully it doesn't mutate after a short period and become something that can't be contained, since we've already let it in. Apparently none of these dummies ever saw Outbreak.
This is truly a great ad campaign for unrestricted and open borders, innit? 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Chinese internet=focused holding company Tencent briefly posted catastrophic infected and death rate figures before changing them moments later to government-aligned statistics
Quote:That would be a 16% death rate
According to the report, late on Saturday evening, Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker", showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.
And while the number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300, most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.
Quote:Glitch? Cry for help? Whistleblowing?
Tencent screengrab as of late Feb 1, showing far higher infections.
Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day.
Screengrab showing higher numbers (left), chart showing "official" numbers (right). (Internet image)
This was not the first time Tencent has done this: as Taiwan Times notes, Chinese netizens have noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics.
Russia is preparing for a pandemic. It has an antiviral that has been successfully used for 15 other viruses, and would like to begin testing, but China haas not sent it a sample of live virus, yet.
https://www.rt.com/russia/480037-china-tests-russian-drug-coronavirus/
The situation in China is far different from here (we hope). You have to remember that if patient zero really was infected Dec 1, 2019, that means there was a whole lot of silent transmission going on. Then the government spent two(?) weeks blaming the fishmarket at Wuhan, even as it already knew that human-to-human transmission was happening.
I just can't imagine what those officials were thinking. Were they thinking this would just "go away"? Yanno, when you have a potentially big problem, shutting your eyes and hiding in a closet may be what you WANT to do, but it's not the responsible thing to do. Better to have some paranoid person (people) start examining the scope of the problem and mitigation effects right quick, before it becomes fulminant.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Maybe that's Chinese football stats.
Somebody could show me those screen grabs and tell me it was anything and without any evidence to the contrary I'd just be taking that for what they said it was on faith.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Just reposting Signy to be able to easily read.
Chinese internet=focused holding company Tencent briefly posted catastrophic infected and death rate figures before changing them moments later to government-aligned statistics
Quote:That would be a 16% death rate
According to the report, late on Saturday evening, Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker", showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.
And while the number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300, most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.
Quote:Glitch? Cry for help? Whistleblowing?
Tencent screengrab as of late Feb 1, showing far higher infections.
https:// zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/corona%20real%20data.jpg?itok=Uk-e2XMJ
Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day.
https:// zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/china%20fake%20numbers%20comp.jpg?itok=5cce9WjL
Screengrab showing higher numbers (left), chart showing "official" numbers (right). (Internet image)
This was not the first time Tencent has done this: as Taiwan Times notes, Chinese netizens have noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics.
Russia is preparing for a pandemic. It has an antiviral that has been successfully used for 15 other viruses, and would like to begin testing, but China haas not sent it a sample of live virus, yet.
https://www.rt.com/russia/480037-china-tests-russian-drug-coronavirus/
The situation in China is far different from here (we hope). You have to remember that if patient zero really was infected Dec 1, 2019, that means there was a whole lot of silent transmission going on. Then the government spent two(?) weeks blaming the fishmarket at Wuhan, even as it already knew that human-to-human transmission was happening.
I just can't imagine what those officials were thinking. Were they thinking this would just "go away"? Yanno, when you have a potentially big problem, shutting your eyes and hiding in a closet may be what you WANT to do, but it's not the responsible thing to do. Better to have some paranoid person (people) start examining the scope of the problem and mitigation effects right quick, before it becomes fulminant.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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some important updates:
CDC to distribute 400 test kits
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-05-20-i
ntl-hnk/index.html
Report that said Wuhan coronavirus can spread before symptoms was flawed
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/05/health/wuhan-coronavirus-flawed-rep
ort/index.html
And, some articles I've read said that the 'HIV-like insertions' paper was withdrawn (though the last time I checked it was still on the preprint server) because of the comments that were made on that server. I read the comments and the vast majority were non-technical. One said that they took the same data, and ran a search through the same database used by the original researchers, and got a match with bat coronavirus, even though the original research said there were NO matches in other coronaviruses. So we have 2 different groups, using the same data, and the same database, and the same search software, saying 2 different things ABOUT WHETHER THE INSERTIONS LOOK LIKE HIV or something else. No one is disputing that they're there, or that they make the virus very transmissible.
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