new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Quote:As for Styx - basically, you're saying that just because there's ONE GUY on youtube, who had a max of 130,000 (not necessarily unique) views TOTAL on any one video, who may or may NOT have mentioned the protein insertions ... the protein insertions are being covered by 'the media'.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Styx has over 400,000 subscribers, and by many metrics he has more views than a lot of talking heads on Cable Fake News Networks. He also has a large audience in the EU as well as other places such as Brazil and Venesuela and is on many other platforms outside of YouTube in the eventuality that YouTube removes him and censors him.
Tim Pool is afraid of YouTube and has suspiciously stopped reporting on the Coronavirus. He is beholden to them for the ad revenue. Styx isn't either, and he puts out at least one video about it with updates every single day.
He's not pulling this information out of his ass. He never does that. So he's getting it from somewhere. You're looking in the wrong places.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Well, let me reply with quote, because that's one for the ages.
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So, I'm reposting this because it was put out by The Lancet, the premier medical journal out of England.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)302
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Interpretation
Given that 2019-nCoV is no longer contained within Wuhan, other major Chinese cities are probably sustaining localised outbreaks. Large cities overseas with close transport links to China (I'd say Los Angeles fits that category) could also become outbreak epicentres, unless substantial public health interventions at both the population and personal levels are implemented immediately. Independent self-sustaining outbreaks in major cities globally could become inevitable because of substantial exportation of presymptomatic cases and in the absence of large-scale public health interventions. Preparedness plans and mitigation interventions should be readied for quick deployment globally.
IMO this is a situation of 'wait and see'. No one can predict the outcome, with, again IMO, the biggest variable being the number of unidentified cases in the general population. But if 2019-nCoV should get a toehold, the second variable would be if there's brisk and maybe even draconian measures to stop the spread.
I was right when WAY back in the thread I called the spread 'explosive'. And if the findings of novel (potentially HIV-related) inserts that 'recognize' and attach to human cells are reproduced, that would go a long way to explaining why. The virus was built for transmission among people.
I think US authorities will have the necessary data in 2 or 3 weeks about which way this is going. I'm not confident we will. But if there's "sustaining localised outbreaks" it'll be obvious to localised doctors and hospitals shortly thereafter, and to the rest of the localised people within a few weeks of that, because they'll be noticing a lot of sick people around.
IN THE MEANTIME, I have thought about personal protective measures. So, this is my PERSONAL opinion only, and not medical advice. Obviously if you're in the same household as someone who's sick, you need to be extremely careful - wear masks, gloves, use disposable aprons, and wash or sanitize your hands frequently. Make sure they see a doctor for testing, and, if needed, isolation and treatment. And if you get sick, see a doctor for testing and, if needed, isolation and treatment. But in general, when you're just out and about, I believe the vital link in the infection chain is 'contaminated hands to face' actions. So I think getting hand sanitizer - at least 60% alcohol (either ethanol or IPA) - and keeping one in your car and one in your house is a good idea. You've been touching things the whole time, and then you touched your keys to get into your car. When you get back into your car, sanitize your hands and keys. Rub your hands and use enough so that your hands stay wet at least a minute (which is the recommendation for bacteria). When you get back to your house, sanitize your hands again, or wash them. You may have touched the car door handle on your way out of the car, or other potentially contaminated surfaces. As for masks, I personally don't think they carry a whole lot of extra protection (minimal, at best) EXCEPT - they eliminate hand-to-nose and hand-to-mouth actions, and they might remind you to avoid hand-to-eye actions, at least until you've sanitized or washed your hands.
Is any of this 100%? No, of course not!
That's the best I can come up with given the information I've found at this time. Your mileage may vary.
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My bad. I didn't know you were specifying "insertions". Had to read the TL;DR you posted from earlier to know what an insertion even means. I thought you were saying that they were trying to hide any new news about the Coronavirus from the public in general.
Again though, I'm not going to act surprised about this. I used to be the wackjob conspiracy theorist in my group and family, and it literally drove me insane there for a while. And it turns out almost everything I was saying has been proven right over the years.
But here's the thing. Two things, really...
1. The sun still rises every day, and my life isn't all that bad, 20 years later.
2. All of those people who didn't give a shit before and said I was crazy still don't give a shit now when it's all come out as true. They've taken it all one step further and allowed the spying devices that weren't even around back then into their homes willingly, knowing full well they're being spied on, and they still don't give a shit.
At the end of the day, I'm the asshole. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I don't know Jack - how high can you count? How MANY times in how MANY posts did you need to see it to figure it out? YOU EVEN QUOTED ME when I specifically mentioned 'insertions'.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My bad. I didn't know you were specifying "insertions".
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insert
ions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon
Now, a respected epidemiologist who recently caught flack for claiming in a twitter threat that the virus appeared to be much more contagious than initially believed is pointing out irregularities in the virus's genome that suggests it might have been genetically engineered for the purposes of a weapon, and not just any weapon but the deadliest one of all.
In "Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag", Indian researchers are baffled by segments of the virus's RNA that have no relation to other coronaviruses like SARS, and instead appear to be closer to HIV. The virus even responds to treatment by HIV medications.
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We then translated the aligned genome and found that these inserts are present in all Wuhan 2019-nCoV viruses except the 2019-nCoV virus of Bat as a host. ... Surprisingly, each of the four inserts aligned with short segments of the Human immunodeficiency Virus-1 (HIV-1) proteins.
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The insert 1 (6 amino acid residues) and insert 2 (6 amino acid residues) in the spike glycoprotein of 2019-nCoV are 100% identical to the residues mapped to HIV-1 gp120. The insert 3 (12 amino acid residues) in 2019- nCoV maps to HIV-1 gp120 with gaps [see Table 1]. The insert 4 (8 amino acid residues) maps to HIV-1 Gag with gaps.
To our surprise, these sequence insertions were not only absent in S protein of SARS but were also not observed in any other member of the Coronaviridae family (Supplementary figure). This is startling as it is quite unlikely for a virus to have acquired such unique insertions naturally in a short duration of time.
A good recap of the findings was provided by Dr. Feigl-Ding, who started his explanatory thread by pointing out that the transmission rate outside China has surpassed the rate inside China.
A graph is worth a thousand letters. #coronavirus. Source: NYTimes https://t.co/M1K9e6Kgz6 pic.twitter.com/evgM2UHf3U
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 31, 2020
2) Whoa- the rate of increase ***outside of China*** is steeper than inside of China or Wuhan! Figure 1A. From: @TheLancet “Nowcasting and forecasting the potential domestic and international spread of 2019-nCoV https://t.co/SwhxWGeoTj”) pic.twitter.com/u1s4SLEzMv
3) “An estimated 75815 individuals have been infected in Wuhan” —> this is substantially higher than current reports or ~10k reports by China ???? media. (75k estimate from above Lancet article)
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 31, 2020
4) ...”On the present trajectory, 2019-nCoV could be about to become a global epidemic in the absence of mitigation...substantial, even draconian measures that limit population mobility should be seriously and immediately considered in affected areas...”NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Don't be a bitch. We've already got Nilbog. We don't need two bitches here.
If you want to talk about biology, go find a biology forum. To the rest of us, "insertions" could mean a lot of other much more mundane things.
I already explained myself. If you're still triggered, there's nothing I can do about that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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In any case - Jack, we were talking about entirely different things. I was talking about the 4 HIV-like protein insertions into the coronavirus. The reason I highlighted it is because it puts the virus, and more generically 'how our world works', into an entirely new light.
I do have a personal interest though. Here here in SoCal - where we get every darn thing going around the globe due to our extensive air connections - it pays for me specifically to be cautious about catching anything else this year, given that I'm still wheezing and bubbling in my lungs, and coughing and having a hard time breathing from time to time, after having had 'only' influenza B/ Victoria many weeks ago. But I'm not scared of this coronavirus, and I'm pretty sure I don't need to be talked off the ledge with dismissive pablum.
I think I've been extremely clear that I have found this kind of stuff interesting for literally as long as I can remember. That's why I post.
I've also been extremely cautious about my predictions for how this is going to go - ie I don't have any, a point I've reiterated many times. It's not like I'm trying to stampede anyone into a panic with doomsday soothsaying.
I hope you can understand where I'm coming from, and try to address what I post, without making extraneous assumptions about what I mean.
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That's fine. I shouldn't say "if you want to talk about biology, go find a biology forum."
I should have said "if you want to talk about biology and expect anybody to understand what you're talking about, go find a biology forum."
I'm not dumb, but I have very little understanding or attention span for things that I'm not in the least bit interested in. I'm not dismissing your interest in it. Like I said, I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying that the media was burying the whole Coronavirus story and scrubbing that from the internet.
And if a government is breeding super viruses, it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. But I'm not going to worry about it because there ain't a damn thing I can do about it if they are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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It seems to me, KIKI, that this whole concept of "insertions" should be easily proved or disproved. There was one team than said they found them. Well, they're either there, or they're not. They're either part of the "host cell recognition and docking" mechanisms, or they're not.
Where are the other virologists to either replicate or dispute the findings?
Because IF the insertions are there, and IF they're unprecedented to coronaviruses, and IF they have a function in the virus and increase infectivity, THEN that should tell people an awful lot about what governments do in secret. And when I say that "they have no moral or ethical boundaries to cross" I would have to expand the scope of my imagination to encompass that.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:Jack, I hear ya. And if there's ever any news about computers that you want to post about ... well, we'll switch places!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's fine. I shouldn't say "if you want to talk about biology, go find a biology forum."
I should have said "if you want to talk about biology and expect anybody to understand what you're talking about, go find a biology forum."
I'm not dumb, but I have very little understanding or attention span for things that I'm not in the least bit interested in. I'm not dismissing your interest in it. Like I said, I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying that the media was burying the whole Coronavirus story and scrubbing that from the internet.
And if a government is breeding super viruses, it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. But I'm not going to worry about it because there ain't a damn thing I can do about it if they are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The linked paper claims that other labs found 3 of 4, but that they also looked at less protein.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It seems to me, KIKI, that this whole concept of "insertions" should be easily proved or disproved. There was one team than said they found them. Well, they're either there, or they're not. They're either part of the "host cell recognition and docking" mechanisms, or they're not.
Where are the other virologists to either replicate or dispute the findings?
Because IF the insertions are there, and IF they're unprecedented to coronaviruses, and IF they have a function in the virus and increase infectivity, THEN that should tell people an awful lot about what governments do in secret. And when I say that "they have no moral or ethical boundaries to cross" I would have to expand the scope of my imagination to encompass that.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
I would have expected this to be a hot topic - in the news, on the inet, in scientific circles. The silence is unexpected.
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