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Monday, February 3, 2020 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Pence is an unknown variable. You don't know anything about Pence.

But more importantly, Pence isn't running for President.

So, once again, I'm left here wondering what the hell is going on in that twisted mind of yours before you type out your incoherent thoughts.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

"Pence is an unknown variable"?
You're kidding, right?

"You don't know anything about Pence"?
You don't know anything.

"Pence isn't running for President"?
You have forgotten 14 vice presidents became president, 8 succeeded to the office on the death of a president. Only 44 men have served as president.
www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Vice_President.ht
m



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 3, 2020 6:16 PM

What we know about Trump:

Trump’s Super Bowl interview was 8 minutes of pettiness and empty braggadocio


In a lightning round, in which Hannity encouraged the president to say the first thing that came to mind, Trump attacked Democratic presidential candidates.

“Look at Sleepy Joe, what’s going on with him? He’s having a hard time,” Trump said of former Vice President Joe Biden. He accused Sen. Elizabeth Warren of being a liar, saying, “I call her ‘Fairy Tale’ because everything’s a fairy tale ... this woman can’t tell the truth.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, Trump claimed, is a “communist” who got married in Russia. The claim prompted Hannity’s only attempt to correct the president; the Fox News personality reminded him that Sanders actually took a trip to the then-Soviet Union shortly after his marriage, and that he wasn’t married there.

Given 8 minutes to address the nation, Trump spent it not answering pressing questions of national concern but attacking his rivals in incredibly petty ways.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/2/21119306/donald-trump-super-b
owl-liv-interview-hannity


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 3, 2020 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Pence is an unknown variable. You don't know anything about Pence.

But more importantly, Pence isn't running for President.

So, once again, I'm left here wondering what the hell is going on in that twisted mind of yours before you type out your incoherent thoughts.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

"Pence is an unknown variable"?
You're kidding, right?




Nope. I'm not.

Quote:

"You don't know anything about Pence"?
You don't know anything.



About Pence. That's what I just said. You don't either.

Quote:

"Pence isn't running for President"?
You have forgotten 14 vice presidents became president, 8 succeeded to the office on the death of a president. Only 44 men have served as president.
www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Vice_President.ht
m




I haven't forgotten anything, dummy. You can't stay on topic and you forget what you posted 15 minutes ago.

Here. I'll refresh your memory.

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Originally posted by second:


The Dems could praise V.P. Mike Pence as calm, thoughtful, intelligent, truthful, pays his taxes, never bribed hookers, never bankrupt, never been sued then forced to pay millions in compensation. Vote for Vice President Pence because if Trump dies America will need someone who is the complete opposite of the President.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Or they could just do nothing. Because if Trump dies then America gets President Pence.

Are you huffing glue on Saturday or something?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



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Monday, February 3, 2020 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
What we know about Trump:

Trump’s Super Bowl interview was 8 minutes of pettiness and empty braggadocio

In a lightning round, in which Hannity encouraged the president to say the first thing that came to mind, Trump attacked Democratic presidential candidates.

“Look at Sleepy Joe, what’s going on with him? He’s having a hard time,” Trump said of former Vice President Joe Biden. He accused Sen. Elizabeth Warren of being a liar, saying, “I call her ‘Fairy Tale’ because everything’s a fairy tale ... this woman can’t tell the truth.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, Trump claimed, is a “communist” who got married in Russia. The claim prompted Hannity’s only attempt to correct the president; the Fox News personality reminded him that Sanders actually took a trip to the then-Soviet Union shortly after his marriage, and that he wasn’t married there.

Given 8 minutes to address the nation, Trump spent it not answering pressing questions of national concern but attacking his rivals in incredibly petty ways.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/2/21119306/donald-trump-super-b
owl-liv-interview-hannity


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




More hypocrisy by Second. It must be a day that ends with "day".

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Originally posted by second:
The Dems can show Trump voters that they have been used and betrayed by Trump. The Dems would be wise not to focus on their candidate but instead pour money into negative advertising, shaming Trump for making promises that he knew he wouldn’t deliver on: Hillary has not been prosecuted; Mexico has paid for no wall; great manufacturing jobs are not going to Ohioans; there are more suicides, drug overdose deaths, and grieving families. Negative advertising will increase the likelihood that these folks stay home on Election Day and not vote for Trump.



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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:48 PM

A zombie idea is a belief or doctrine that has repeatedly been proved false, but refuses to die; instead, it just keeps shambling along, eating people’s brains. The ultimate zombie in American politics is the assertion that tax cuts pay for themselves — a claim that has been proved wrong again and again over the past 40 years. But there are other zombies, like climate change denial, that play an almost equally large role in our political discourse.

And all of the really important zombies these days are on the right. Indeed, they have taken over the Republican Party.

It was not always thus. Back in 1980 George H.W. Bush called Ronald Reagan’s extravagant claims about the effectiveness of tax cuts “voodoo economic policy.” Everything that has happened since has vindicated his original assessment. Deficits ballooned after Reagan cut taxes; they shrank and eventually turned into surpluses after Bill Clinton raised taxes, then ballooned again after George W. Bush’s tax cuts.

Voodoo has also crashed and burned at the state level: The Kansas experiment in radical tax cuts was a dismal failure, while California’s tax hike under Jerry Brown, which conservatives declared a case of “economic suicide,” was followed by a revenue and economic boom.

Yet voodoo economics has become unchallengeable doctrine within the Republican Party. Even fake moderates like Susan Collins justified their support for the 2017 Trump tax cut by claiming that it would reduce the budget deficit. Predictably, the deficit actually exploded, and now exceeds $1 trillion a year.

The politics of climate change have followed a similar trajectory. Global temperature keeps setting records, while climate-related catastrophes like the Australian wildfires are proliferating. Yet a majority of Republicans in Congress are climate deniers — many of them buying into the notion that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by a vast international scientific conspiracy — and even those, like Marco Rubio, who grudgingly admit that global warming is real oppose any significant action to limit emissions.

Zombie ideas have been eating Republican brains for decades. Voodoo economics had completely taken over the party by the early 2000s, when then-House majority leader Tom DeLay declared, “Nothing is more important in the face of war than cutting taxes.” Climate deniers have ruled since at least 2009, when only eight House Republicans supported a bill to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/opinion/republican-party-trump.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:51 PM

Climate models used to forecast warming have suddenly started giving us less time

Bloomberg reports:
www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-03/climate-models-are-running-
red-hot-and-scientists-don-t-know-why


There are dozens of climate models, and for decades they’ve agreed on what it would take to heat the planet by about 3° Celsius. It’s an outcome that would be disastrous—flooded cities, agricultural failures, deadly heat—but there’s been a grim steadiness in the consensus among these complicated climate simulations.

Then last year, unnoticed in plain view, some of the models started running very hot. The scientists who hone these systems used the same assumptions about greenhouse-gas emissions as before and came back with far worse outcomes. Some produced projections in excess of 5°C, a nightmare scenario.

The scientists involved couldn’t agree on why — or if the results should be trusted. Climatologists began “talking to each other like, ‘What’d you get?’, ‘What’d you get?’” said Andrew Gettelman, a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, which builds a high-profile climate model.

“The question is whether they’ve overshot,” said Mark Zelinka, staff scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

Researchers are starting to put together a­nswers, a task that will take months at best, and there’s not yet agreement on how to interpret the hotter results. The reason for worry is that these same models have successfully projected global warming for a half century. Their output continues to frame all major scientific, policy and private-sector climate goals and debates, including the sixth encyclopedic assessment by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change due out next year. If the same amount of climate pollution will bring faster warming than previously thought, humanity would have less time to avoid the worst impacts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by second:
A zombie idea is a belief or doctrine that has repeatedly been proved false, but refuses to die

Like Russiagate.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 1:08 AM

lol

Like Russiagate or about a hundred other things from the last three years you could throw into that story that would fit.

One of them is already in the story. The part about Clinton fixing the economy. When in reality that was a short term boon at the cost of long term pain and loss. It's what the Democrats specialize in. Just ask anybody in Chicago about the great bargain Mayor Daley made selling the parking meter revenue to Middle East interests.


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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 1:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Like Russiagate or about a hundred other things from the last three years you could throw into that story that would fit.

One of them is already in the story. The part about Clinton fixing the economy. When in reality that was a short term boon at the cost of long term pain and loss. It's what the Democrats specialize in. Just ask anybody in Chicago about the great bargain Mayor Daley made selling the parking meter revenue to Middle East interests.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

Chicago received $1,156,500,000 in 2008 for 36,000 parking meters. That is $32,125 per meter. Matt Taibbi thinks Chicago should have got $138,889 per meter. I think Matt is too greedy. As for the average Chicago resident, they would have no idea how to Calculate Net Present Value for their parking meters.
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/10/why-does-abu-dhabi-own-al
l-of-chicago-s-parking-meters/339805
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Like Russiagate or about a hundred other things from the last three years you could throw into that story that would fit.

One of them is already in the story. The part about Clinton fixing the economy. When in reality that was a short term boon at the cost of long term pain and loss. It's what the Democrats specialize in. Just ask anybody in Chicago about the great bargain Mayor Daley made selling the parking meter revenue to Middle East interests.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

Chicago received $1,156,500,000 in 2008 for 36,000 parking meters. That is $32,125 per meter. Matt Taibbi thinks Chicago should have got $138,889 per meter. I think Matt is too greedy. As for the average Chicago resident, they would have no idea how to Calculate Net Present Value for their parking meters.
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/10/why-does-abu-dhabi-own-al
l-of-chicago-s-parking-meters/339805
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



You failed to mention how long Chicago will be without any parking meter revenue and the fact that the Chicago police still need to enforce them on the taxpayer dollar.

SPOILER ALERT: Everybody here will be long dead before that contract expires. Probably four or five decades before it does.

Democrats are stupid.

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