new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Quote:What is your malfunction, Jackhole?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Just did a Google search for nothing more than "Coronavirus" without quotes.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Bullshit, Jack. Just stop. Stop being an ass, just because you can't let facts get in the way of your opinions.
Or better yet - LOOK AT ALL THE SEARCHES AND ALL THE SOURCES I'VE GONE TO THAT HAVE MILLIONS OF VIEWS EVERY DAY AND FOUND NOTHING. LITERALLY NOTHING.
Or are facts too much for you? Again.
Tons of stuff shown.
Top three results:
2 hours ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html
8 minutes ago: https://www.kcra.com/article/second-case-coronavirus-confirmed-in-sant
a-clara-county-cdc-says/30743112
14 minutes ago: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/south-bay/second-case-of-coronav
irus-in-bay-area-confirmed/2225499/
Maybe you've got some CIA spooks messing with your IP address or something. I honestly don't have a freaking clue what you're talking about when you say it's being scrubbed from the internet. A simple one word search on google showed me three results from the last two hours. Two of them in the last 15 minutes.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You keep posting all of these stupid asinine posts, while claiming that you are not smoking weed this week, that you are no longer drunk. When you do this, without telling us what your problem is, you merely short-circuit your credibility.
Maybe this is the day you celebrate Illiteracy. Maybe this is your meth day. Maybe you are distracted because Nilbog's hubby banged your bung and you are sore. Maybe we need to ask BungBetty what if wrong with you, or what flavor your dingleberry juice is today - but I don't listen to her delusional screeching, anyhow. Much of RWED has become home to her delusional screeching, so I just need to dig further for something to read.
But chill out on the asinine postings, or just tell us what your malfunction is for the day, or your lapse in literacy. You look like the sockpuppet for T - in the quoted post, you actually prove kiki's point that the internet search engines have been scrubbed of the biggest news story of the year, yet like T you claim that you disproved her assertion.
Don't be a tard while the adults are talking, m'kay? Why are you the only poster in this thread besides the usual Trolls who cannot understand the simple words that have been used? I even tried to provide a summary post - although nobody has quoted it, corrected it, updated it.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
U.S. CDC CONFIRMS 11 CONFIRMED CORONAVIRUS CASES IN UNITED STATES - TELEBRIEFING
More ominously, the CDC said that the new Coronavirus case is close contact of other California case, and was spread person-to-person.
CDC: PREPARING AS IF CORONAVIRUS WERE THE NEXT PANDEMIC
To be sure, this is from ZH where the world is always on the brink of ending, it provided no links, and I haven't followed up on this.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cdc-coronavirus-boss-nancy-messonnier-ca
lls-spread-unprecedented-as-cases-surge-in-us-and-abroad
Federal officials confirmed the number of U.S. cases of 2019 novel coronavirus had reached 11 on Monday, describing the increasingly deadly global crisis as “explosive” and “unprecedented,” and suggesting it amounted to a potential pandemic.
California has now become a domestic epicenter of infections, with two infections confirmed in Santa Clara County, in the Bay Area; two more in San Benito County, near Monterey, where a man appeared to infect his wife; and, previously, one case each in Orange County and Los Angeles County, in Southern California.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/mayo-clinic-dr-gregory-poland-coronavi
rus-basically-at-a-pandemic.html
Mayo Clinic doctor: Coronavirus is ‘basically at a pandemic now’ and should be treated as such
“We’re basically at a pandemic now,” said Poland, regarding the deadly virus, which has currently been labeled as an epidemic.
The next few weeks will be crucial in how the coronavirus affects the U.S., said former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb. “If we don’t start to see outbreaks in the next two or three weeks, we might have dodged a bullet,” said Gottlieb.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-pandemic-what-that-m
eans-epidemic-difference-2020-2
Scientists say the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak could soon be declared a pandemic. Here's what that means.
I know you have been delving into the origins of the breakout in china. But China data is at best suspect. Have you been trying to track the individual landings of the outbreak outside of China? 11 cases now in America, most of them parallel from China, but some of them generative from another case in America. First fatality in Phillipines. UK, Canada, America might have better transparency with their outbreak progressions.
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Quote:Please ignore this illiterate jackhole.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
In any case - Jack, we were talking about entirely different things. I was talking about the 4 HIV-like protein insertions into the coronavirus. The reason I highlighted it is because it puts the virus, and more generically 'how our world works', into an entirely new light.
I do have a personal interest though. Here here in SoCal - where we get every darn thing going around the globe due to our extensive air connections - it pays for me specifically to be cautious about catching anything else this year, given that I'm still wheezing and bubbling in my lungs, and coughing and having a hard time breathing from time to time, after having had 'only' influenza B/ Victoria many weeks ago. But I'm not scared of this coronavirus, and I'm pretty sure I don't need to be talked off the ledge with dismissive pablum.
I think I've been extremely clear that I have found this kind of stuff interesting for literally as long as I can remember. That's why I post.
I've also been extremely cautious about my predictions for how this is going to go - ie I don't have any, a point I've reiterated many times. It's not like I'm trying to stampede anyone into a panic with doomsday soothsaying.
I hope you can understand where I'm coming from, and try to address what I post, without making extraneous assumptions about what I mean.
I want to thank you for your informative posts, n this thread and many others. Most of the reasonable and sensible folk in this thread can read and comprehend. I am certain that I never would have found the paper explaining the insertions on my own, as busy as my life is. I am certain I would not have clearly detected the scrubbing of the information from the search engines, although I have been greatly familiar with the scrubbing on many other topics.
I want to thank all who have posted info in this thread, and also do so in other threads. I have limited login ability/access, so I often do not make posts when clear information has already been provided - info which I would certainly not have found on my own.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, I'm reposting this because it was put out by The Lancet, the premier medical journal out of England.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)302
60-9/fulltext
Interpretation
Given that 2019-nCoV is no longer contained within Wuhan, other major Chinese cities are probably sustaining localised outbreaks. Large cities overseas with close transport links to China (I'd say Los Angeles fits that category) could also become outbreak epicentres, unless substantial public health interventions at both the population and personal levels are implemented immediately. Independent self-sustaining outbreaks in major cities globally could become inevitable because of substantial exportation of presymptomatic cases and in the absence of large-scale public health interventions. Preparedness plans and mitigation interventions should be readied for quick deployment globally.
IMO this is a situation of 'wait and see'. No one can predict the outcome, with, again IMO, the biggest variable being the number of unidentified cases in the general population. But if 2019-nCoV should get a toehold, the second variable would be if there's brisk and maybe even draconian measures to stop the spread.
I was right when WAY back in the thread I called the spread 'explosive'. And if the findings of novel (potentially HIV-related) inserts that 'recognize' and attach to human cells are reproduced, that would go a long way to explaining why. The virus was built for transmission among people.
I think US authorities will have the necessary data in 2 or 3 weeks about which way this is going. I'm not confident we will. But if there's "sustaining localised outbreaks" it'll be obvious to localised doctors and hospitals shortly thereafter, and to the rest of the localised people within a few weeks of that, because they'll be noticing a lot of sick people around.
IN THE MEANTIME, I have thought about personal protective measures. So, this is my PERSONAL opinion only, and not medical advice. Obviously if you're in the same household as someone who's sick, you need to be extremely careful - wear masks, gloves, use disposable aprons, and wash or sanitize your hands frequently. Make sure they see a doctor for testing, and, if needed, isolation and treatment. And if you get sick, see a doctor for testing and, if needed, isolation and treatment. But in general, when you're just out and about, I believe the vital link in the infection chain is 'contaminated hands to face' actions. So I think getting hand sanitizer - at least 60% alcohol (either ethanol or IPA) - and keeping one in your car and one in your house is a good idea. You've been touching things the whole time, and then you touched your keys to get into your car. When you get back into your car, sanitize your hands and keys. Rub your hands and use enough so that your hands stay wet at least a minute (which is the recommendation for bacteria). When you get back to your house, sanitize your hands again, or wash them. You may have touched the car door handle on your way out of the car, or other potentially contaminated surfaces. As for masks, I personally don't think they carry a whole lot of extra protection (minimal, at best) EXCEPT - they eliminate hand-to-nose and hand-to-mouth actions, and they might remind you to avoid hand-to-eye actions, at least until you've sanitized or washed your hands.
Is any of this 100%? No, of course not!
That's the best I can come up with given the information I've found at this time. Your mileage may vary.
Have you abandoned aerosol transmission? I thought I've seen numerous mentions of this method with novel corona.
Is there an idea of how much non-contact exposure produces new cases? The percentage of new cases from purely
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There's some indication you can catch the virus from your eyes (similar to the flu - any mucous membrane will do, not just noses and mouths); and some indication you can catch it if you're in 'close proximity' - I've seen different figures but so far roughly 6' - of someone who's coughing or sneezing and actively spewing aerosols into the air. So, should this get going here, I'd suggest limiting your time in close proximity - elevators, for example - with anyone.
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I think JSF needs to read the whole thread before he makes idiotic posts and personal attacks.
I expect this behavior from the lefties here. You should know better.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/aggressive-action-necessary
-counter-unprecedented-threat-coronavirus-cdc-says-n1128671
Aggressive action necessary to counter the 'unprecedented threat' of coronavirus, CDC says
The U.S. plans to evacuate more American citizens from the epicenter of the outbreak in the coming days.
By Erika Edwards
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday defended what it called "aggressive actions" to control the spread of the new coronavirus in the United States, including stern advisories against traveling to China and mandatory federal quarantines for those arriving from the part of China with the vast majority of cases.
The characterization comes as the agency is working to provide state and local health departments with the tools needed to diagnose the virus themselves.
Currently, the CDC headquarters in Atlanta is the only place in the country with a test for the new coronavirus. That means lab results take at least 24 to 36 hours, including the time it takes to send samples overnight to Atlanta, plus four to six hours to perform the actual test.
On Monday, the CDC said it planned to submit the diagnostics to the Food and Drug Administration for approval of the test under "emergency use authorization." That action hastens the approval process for potentially lifesaving medical or diagnostic products during public health emergencies, the CDC said.
An "explosive" outbreak in China
While cases of the new coronavirus have been diagnosed in at least two dozen countries, including 11 cases in the U.S., by far, China has the greatest number of cases worldwide. As of Monday morning, Chinese health officials had reported more than 17,000 patients, and more than 360 deaths.
The CDC called the outbreak in China "explosive" and "unprecedented."
"We are preparing as if this were the next pandemic," Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said during a call with journalists Monday.
She said the Department of State — which last week, issued a "do not travel" advisory for China — is planning to pull out additional U.S. citizens from Hubei province in the coming days. The city of Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, is located in Hubei. The first group of evacuees from Wuhan arrived in California last week and remain under federal quarantine.
On Friday, Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar declared the virus a public health emergency in the U.S., and announced that Americans on flights to the U.S. who have been in Hubei province in the last 14 days will be subject to up to 14 days of quarantine.
Those passengers will all be routed through one of 11 airports, including John F. Kennedy International in New York, Chicago's O'Hare, San Francisco International, Seattle-Tacoma International, Daniel K. Inouye International in Honolulu, Los Angeles' LAX, Hartsfield-Jackson in Atlanta, Washington Dulles, Newark Liberty International, Dallas-Fort Worth and Detroit Metropolitan.
U.S. citizens returning from other parts of China will be given health screenings, and if they have coronavirus symptoms, they'll also be placed under quarantine, in isolation. Those who don't have any symptoms and have not been in Hubei province in the past 14 days, will be allowed to move freely, with guidance to stay home when possible and monitor themselves for illness over the next two weeks.
Also Friday, the Trump administration announced that it was temporarily suspending entry into the U.S. for any foreign nationals who may be at risk for carrying the virus. The proclamation applies to anyone other than immediate family of U.S. citizens.
Over the weekend, Chinese officials criticized the U.S. for its travel restrictions. "Many countries have offere
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Quote:Now that there is a case in New York City - the effective petri dish of America - you should be able to see how well it spreads.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There's some indication you can catch the virus from your eyes (similar to the flu - any mucous membrane will do, not just noses and mouths); and some indication you can catch it if you're in 'close proximity' - I've seen different figures but so far roughly 6' - of someone who's coughing or sneezing and actively spewing aerosols into the air. So, should this get going here, I'd suggest limiting your time in close proximity - elevators, for example - with anyone.
How long before air/train/bus travel from NYC is banned to real America?
I'm not sure Chicago or LA, SFO are quite as enlightening or entertaining.
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First American case, apparently reported from 20 Jan, has now been released from the hospital.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/snohomish-county-man-
with-novel-coronavirus-discharged-from-hospital/
I have seen reports that he had infected 3 others.
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