Who Is Running In 2020?
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A presidential rival, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, challenged Buttigieg on Thursday night to release the names of his McKinsey clients...
Because, of course she did.Quote:
, telling reporters, “I think voters want to know about possible conflicts of interest.”
And so the twitter mob can dox and harass them.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I wonder if this will get any airplay?
Biden Blames Staff For Not Flagging Burisma Concerns; Says We Should Just Trust Hunter And Not Investigate
Joe Biden has thrown his former staff under the bus for not informing him of the multiple ( https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/burisma-consultant-contacted-st
ate-department-over-hunter-biden-concerns-emails-93981) red flags raised ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/diplomat-tells-investigators-h
e-raised-alarms-in-2015-about-hunter-bidens-ukraine-work-but-was-rebuffed/2019/10/18/81e35be9-4f5a-4048-8520-0baabb18ab63_story.html) over his son Hunter's employment with Ukraine's Burisma. He also claims he had no idea Hunter was hired to sit on the gas company's board of directors until after the fact.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not a new lie. He was lying that he wasn't aware of his son's position when the news first broke.
Yup. Sure thing. Some random dude that has no credentials to qualify him for the position gets a job out of the country, in a country that the US has had secret dealings with for what appears to be at least a decade. Some random dude who has a kid with a crack whore. Some random dude who happens to be the Ex Vice President's son. Some random dude who's father happened to be VP while he got the job. Some random dude who's father happened to be giving away a billion US taxpayer dollars to the country where his son just happened to be working at without his father's knowledge.
To anybody who believes any of that, I've got another little dose of reality for you.
Epstein didn't kill himself either.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
From today's LATimes: Pelosi, Democratic leaders see revised NAFTA as model for future trade deals
Of course they do. The Dims are pro-big business. Their pretext to care about the little person is extremely transparent.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've watched some parts of the debates but listened to them all - sometimes twice.
My conclusion about debates in general are that they're a good place to lose votes, but not a good place to gain them. For example, while I don't like her policies, Klobuchar has always done extremely well, imo. She sticks to her points, and she presents them clearly, in a very 'down to earth' kind of way. She does to some extent what I thought Inslee did extraordinarily, which is to get out of the way of the message. But it doesn't win her points in the polls. OTOH Gabbard's take-down of Harris was the beginning of the end for Harris. (Well, that and Harris was an obvious opportunistic hypocrite whose motto seemed to be 'black AND female? - I got it all! How can I lose?'.)
But how Biden is still running at the top of the RealClear average of polls is still a mystery to me.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
With Quid Pro Quo Joe fumbling, I saw Doomberg entered.
What Party is Doomberg with this week? Is he still a Republican? Is he a Democrap again? A Socialist again? Communist? Interdependant? He-man Woman-haters Social Club?
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
On CNN and PBS 8PM Eastern or 5PM Pacific (no time delay)
Seven candidates qualified for the debate:
Joe Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren
Andrew Yang
Former presidential candidate Kamala Harris also qualified for the debate before ending her presidential campaign.
This page provides an overview of the hosts, venue, moderators, qualifications, and participants.
HIGHLIGHTS
Date: December 19, 2019
Location: Los Angeles, California
Venue: Loyola Marymount University
Partners: PBS NewsHour and Politico
Moderators: Judy Woodruff, Tim Alberta, Amna Nawaz, and Yamiche Alcindor
Booker, Harris, and Gabbard didn't qualify.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I don't know Tim Alberta, but the rest are on the PBSNewsHour, which is one of the m$m news shows I watch. I watch ABC to get a sense over what's the hype of the moment, NBC after a couple of weeks to track how the coverage is changing over time (it refreshes my memory as to what's been said in the past, so I can compare that to what's being said now), and the PBSNewsHour after a couple of months because it's EXTREMELY narrative heavy, and I want to get a look at the narrative after the 'news' value has worn off.
I've actually written emails to Woodruff where I called her names because she's a smarmy, smirking, propagandist, but I didn't send them. I suppose one day I will click on 'send' when I can't take it any more. Imagine Salon as an hour long 'news' cast, with a bunch of people pretending that they're some kind of highbrow intellectuals. It really is that bad.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democr
atic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
It'll be interesting to see of tonight's debate moves any numbers.
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I looked at the previous page. How did my one post get repeated so many times? Oh well ... doesn't matter, I guess.
I was wondering what you wanted me to do about the post ... I wasn't sure.
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Now THIS will put some agita into democrats' chances if it gets out very widely:
Quote:see complete article at the link
Illegal immigrants blocked at border pray for Trump’s defeat, ‘I want Trump out’
Latin American migrants eager to enter the United States but held in Mexico are praying for President Trump’s election defeat in 2020, believing that a Democratic president will open the borders again.
“I want Trump out,” said Honduran Katherine Cabrera, who is being held in Tapachula, Mexico, with her baby.
“Once Trump is defeated, and the Democrats take over, things are going to get better,” added El Salvadoran Brenda Ramos.
The comments from Ramos and Cabrera and others were included in a Center for Immigration Studies border report on the attitudes held by migrants under the U.S.-Mexico initiative to stop unchecked illegal immigration.
The report found that instead of staying home, thousands of immigrants are “gambling” that it is worth staying in Mexican migrant camps in hopes Trump and his policies will go away.
Todd Bensman, the center’s senior national security fellow, wrote, “Dozens of politically woke migrants, like Honduran Wilson Valladaras, recently told CIS their decisions to stay in Mexico were predicated on the Trump-defeat gamble. Valladaras said he would wait for his Mexican asylum approval, move to Tijuana ‘until Trump leaves,’ and then cross over the U.S. border when the Democrats undo his policies because ‘right now, the Americans will throw you back’ to Mexico.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/illegal-immigran
ts-blocked-at-border-pray-for-trumps-defeat-i-want-trump-out
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I heard that, despite Immigration being a top concern among American voters, not a single question was asked about the topic during Democrat/MSM debates. Is this correct?
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I've only watched half the debate so far, but indeed, there were no immigration questions in the first half.
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What would they say? Would they lie and tell the American public that they didn't all say they want open borders?
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So I FINALLY watched the entire debate.
No new ground was broken.
But I have a couple of observations -
Everyone (except Steyer) was going on and on about how Iran is a such a threat to the US and how important it is to keep it from getting nukes. And I think I wasn't paying close attention and just let the first 2 people wash over me. But after a minute or two it occurred to me that Iran is NOT an existential threat to the US, nukes or no nukes, despite whatever they were going on about. Think about it. The US can destroy the ENTIRE PLANET all by itself multiple times over. Anything Iran does that warrants a nuclear response will be one small whine before it's completely obliterated in a cloud of nuclear dust. Unless Iranians are entirely suicidal, the country isn't going to make any nuclear moves against the US.
THE NAME THAT SHALL NOT BE MENTIONED IS ISRAEL. All of this bs about Iran has to do with ISRAEL - not the US, despite the candidates bleating over, and over, and over they want to keep the US 'safe' from Iran. Well, now we know who they're auditioning in front of in terms of the job, and whose line they're toeing ... and we're not the ones keeping them dissembling past the name ISRAEL.
The other thing is that, having seen everyone involved in the 'she said he said' play it out, I have zero doubt that this was a scheme cooked up between Warren and CNN to try and knock Sanders down and boost Warren.
The debate doesn't seem to have moved anyone significantly in the RCP polling averages. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democr
atic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Unless Iranians are entirely suicidal, the country isn't going to make any nuclear moves against the US.
This right here is the key to any of it.
It's why the diseased Muslim ideology needs to be neutered like Christianity has been.
I don't give two shits what Christians did back during the Crusades, which is always the argument from the Woke Leftists when this comes up. These animals are doing it right now, in 2020.
There is nothing as frightening in the Real World than somebody who has nothing to lose and has given up any sense of self preservation. Whether that person was created by life just constantly beating the shit out of them until they've given up, or they've been brainwashed by people through a cult and/or a religion.
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If the Iranian government was entirely suicidal, they'd have offed themselves by now. That's they're still here isn't for want of suicide opportunities.
btw I think there's been entirely too much mischaracterization of Iranians by the US for propaganda purposes. They're not the Reavers they're claimed to be.
As for wanna-be martyrs, they're often are caught from a wide-cast net gathering up the disaffected ... except for the Saudis, or course, who seems to specialize is creating their own home-brew terrorists from the 9/11 hijackers to the trainees in Florida.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/13/us-calls-shooting-by-saudi-officer-in-
florida-act-of-terrorism-expels-21-saudi-students-from-training.html
US calls shooting by Saudi officer in Florida 'act of terrorism,' expels 21 Saudi students from training
CNBC|7 days ago
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Oh... I wasn't saying that the Iranian people specifically are suicidal, or even in a large part Muslim. I don't know what the percentage is.
I doubt very much many if any at all in the upper echelon of the Iranian Government are suicidal even if they are Muslim. I'm not worried at all about any meaningful war between the US and Iran. Not one little bit.
I'm talking specifically about Muslim robots that have been brainwashed to carry out acts in the name of Allah. Those people do exist, and to this day, not many in the overall Muslim community have come out to strongly denounce this behavior. They need to do that, and let it be known that violent extremism is intolerable behavior. Until they do this, I am among many who find the entire Muslim religion to be an abomination and a plague on this world.
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Ah! OK - now I have your meaning. 
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There is no doubt in my mind that the dems are running a full-court anti-Sanders (and anti-Gabbard) press.
LATimes
Hillary Clinton ‘absolutely’ stands by criticisms of Bernie Sanders in Hulu doc
Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton over Russia ‘favorite’ comments
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Anybody watching the new project veritas expose of Bernie's kids?
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Quote:No. And it doesn't matter to me at all, fwiw, unless he beat them every day or some such heinous act. I care about the policies.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Anybody watching the new project veritas expose of Bernie's kids?
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Quote:No. And it doesn't matter to me at all, fwiw, unless he beat them every day or some such heinous act. I care about the policies.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Anybody watching the new project veritas expose of Bernie's kids?
Sorry for the brevity.
I meant the kids who are senior Campaign workers at the state levels. They go on about how great places Gulags were to hang out, why eugenics and mass genocide are effective tools along with re-education Campos, and how they will burn down American cities if Trump is re-elected.
You should really check out how these Sanders Socialists are really thinking.
Fake News MSM seems resilient in avoiding this form of reporting.
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I found that 2 people made some untoward statements. Note that they weren't speaking for the Sanders' campaign, they were expressing their personal povs. And for all I know, they were baited into saying these things, and/ or their statements were highly edited.
I can't imagine how MANY people are either working or volunteering for the campaign. What do you think? 2,000? 5,000? 10,000?
Basically, I find the personal statements of 2 people in the campaign to be trivial in the extreme.
Speaking of extreme statements:
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Alt-lite solo media man Mike Cernovich—who has said “diversity is code for white genocide” and “I like choking a woman until her eyes almost go lifeless”—has demonstrated access to the White House through his scoops on personnel matters and Trump’s strike on Syria last April. Both Donald Trump Jr. and Kellyanne Conway have publicly praised Cernovich, with the president’s son saying he deserves “a Pulitzer.”
Quote:You should probably not go calling the kettle any color, if you're a pot.
The senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller promoted racist fears of demographic replacement of white people by non-whites, disseminated conspiracy theories positing a United Nations-inspired plan to colonize America, and implied a Mark Zuckerberg-sponsored bipartisan organization was promoting illegal voting, according to emails provided exclusively to the Guardian.
Like other emails revealed by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) this week, the messages were sent in an effort to shape Breitbart News coverage with conspiratorial, white nationalist-influenced ideas during the Trump campaign.
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Quote:These are thier paid staffers, not merely volunteers. These are the senior staffers ibn their area, or their state. The Sanders campaign has released statements endorsing all of the statements made by these people.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I found that 2 people made some untoward statements. Note that they weren't speaking for the Sanders' campaign, they were expressing their personal povs. And for all I know, they were baited into saying these things, and/ or their statements were highly edited.
I can't imagine how MANY people are either working or volunteering for the campaign. What do you think? 2,000? 5,000? 10,000?
Basically, I find the personal statements of 2 people in the campaign to be trivial in the extreme.
Speaking of extreme statements:Quote:Quote:You should probably not go calling the kettle any color, if you're a pot.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/01/14/project-veritas-highli
ghts-violent-wing-inside-bernie-sanders-campaign/
https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/01/15/project-veritas-rele
ases-second-video-featuring-sanders-staffer-promising-murder-and-violence/
Yep, they must have been tricked into saying what they really think. Just like Steyer writing on his hand every day TTTT - which he said is the only way he can remember to Tell The Truth Today.
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I have heard that the Trump Campaign had admitted that their top fund-raiser is Nancy Pelosi.
Plus she really boosts the ratings of FNC, and all other rational, sensible, reasonable (aka conservative) programming.
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Quote:Dude, you don't help your case by making shit up.
These are the senior staffers in their area, or their state.
Jurek is claimed to be a 'field organizer'. What does that mean? "Field organizers are managers that work for non-profit organizations, unions, as a political campaign organizer, or with lobbying groups. They are most often in charge of finding, training, and scheduling volunteers or paid canvass workers. Organizers can be in charge of a small team of volunteers, or they may oversee the workers within a region or entire state." I dunno. What IS his area of responsibility? A small group of volunteers?
And I repeat - Trump's supporters, and staff, have made just as many radical statements on the opposite side.
You aren't holy. Everybody else isn't the devil.
And one (or two) people stating their own personal opinions out of tens of thousands is trivial in the extreme.
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My only question is, did Bernie have anything to say about this?
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Quote:No, he didn't.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My only question is, did Bernie have anything to say about this?
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Yanno, the support for Bernie is just another indication of how fed up a lot of people are with the establishment politics of both the Repubs AND the Dems.
Because of the surging protest vote we might actually have two populists running for President this November: Trump, and Bernie. Bernie would Trump a run for his money! But if the Dems try to shoehorn in Hillary (again!) - or anyone else seen as "establishment" - I think they'll go down in flames.
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With Senator Bernie Sanders surging in the polls, DNC chair Tom Perez has put forward a cartoonishly neoliberal cast of foreign policy hacks and corporate lobbyists to sabotage his nomination.
By Kevin Gosztola
Democratic National Committee chair Tom Perez has nominated dozens of lobbyists, corporate consultants, think tank board members, and former officials linked to the presidential campaigns of Barack Obama and Bill and Hillary Clinton to serve on the Democratic National Convention (DNC) nominating committee this July.
Many of Perez’s nominees are vocal opponents of Senator Bernie Sanders and spoke out against his campaign when he challenged Hillary Clinton for the nomination in 2016.
Just as it did in 2016, the DNC appears determined to sabotage a Sanders nomination, foisting a collection of neoliberal and imperialist hacks onto the convention committee to hold back a popular rebellion against the policies of endless war and corporate free trade they have personally presided over.
Democratic National Committee chair Tom Perez issued a list of individuals he nominated for the 2020 Democratic National Convention committees.
Let's examine some of the individuals. I'll initially focus on the nominees for the DNC Platform Committee.
Thread. pic.twitter.com/fVm41YClJQ
— Kevin Gosztola (@kgosztola) January 25, 2020
Only a small percentage of those on the roster, such as Communications Workers of America President Larry Cohen, are even remotely aligned or sympathetic to Sanders’ progressive agenda, and many of them are 2020 superdelegates.
Though the Democratic Party reduced the influence of superdelegates after a backlash from Sanders supporters, more than 700 superdelegates will be able to vote as part of a brokered convention if the Vermont senator is not the nominee after the first ballot. They would not have to vote for Sanders, even if he won a majority of pledged delegates in their state’s caucus or primary.
Sanders could secure enough pledged delegates to win on the first ballot and still find his agenda thwarted by the standing committees. For example, members of the DNC’s Platform Committee beholden to corporate interests could vote against measures including Medicare For All or a ban on natural fracking in the agenda of policies they plan to fight for in 2020.
A close look at the list Perez issued offers a gruesome vision of morally repugnant operatives rigging the game on behalf of a desperate and increasingly discredited party elite.
Denis McDonough was nominated to chair the Platform Committee. He was Obama’s chief of staff during his second term. McDonough is senior principal for the Markle Foundation and a chair of the Rework America Task Force. In 2018, McDonough partnered with Heidi Capozzi, senior vice president of human resources at Boeing, to form the Rework America Business Network. It included 11 founding members: Aon, Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM), Boeing, Duke Energy, Kaiser Permanente, McKinsey & Company, Microsoft, Stanley Black & Decker, Walmart, Zurich Insurance, and 21st Century Fox. The network received support from Google.
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If the DNC gets its way, it looks like I'll be voting for 'not the democrat' again.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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No One Is Above The Law? Hillary Clinton Refuses To Be Served Tulsi Gabbard Lawsuit
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-one-above-law-hillary-clinton-r
efuses-be-served-tulsi-gabbard-lawsuit-twice
Gabbard filed a lawsuit against Clinton last week, accusing the former Secretary of State of defamation for remarks characterizing the Democratic presidential candidate as a Russian asset.
Dunne said their process server first attempted to effect service at Clinton’s house in Chappaqua on Tuesday afternoon — but was turned away by Secret Service agents.
The agents directed the server to Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall, who on Wednesday claimed at his Washington, DC, firm, Williams & Connolly, that he was unable to accept service on Clinton’s behalf, said Dunne. -New York Post
We thought no one was above the law?
In America, no one is above the law.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 16, 2019
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She'll be served. Those people are quite crafty.
Cool that it's a news story already though. What a piece of shit she is.
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Here are more news articles about how the Deep State - through its members in the DNC - is rigging the primaries against Sanders, and for their corporate-and-Israel friendly proxies BidenA/B/C.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/31/definition-rigged-system-
says-sanders-campaign-after-dnc-changes-debate-rules
'Definition of a Rigged System,' Says Sanders Campaign After DNC Changes Debate Rules for Billionaire Latecomer Mike Bloomberg
"DNC changing the rules to benefit a billionaire."
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/01/definition-of-a-rigged-system-says-sa
nders-campaign-after-dnc-changes-debate-rules-for-bloomberg_partner/
"Definition of a rigged system," says Sanders campaign after DNC changes debate rules for Bloomberg
"DNC changing the rules to benefit a billionaire."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/definition-rigged-system-dnc-chang
es-debate-rules-billionaire-latecomer-mike-bloomberg
"Definition Of A Rigged System": DNC Changes Debate Rules for Billionaire Latecomer Mike Bloomberg
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supers-are-back-dnc-members-planni
ng-move-block-sanders-again
The Supers Are Back: DNC Members Planning Move To Block Sanders... Again
Now, however, Politico is reporting that DNC members are again discussing changing the rules to stop Sanders. This follows the selection of Clinton allies to control the convention and a shocking level of anti-Sanders bias shown by CNN at the last debate.
Deep-stater Biden (BidenA) is the favored nominee, but he may not be the sturdiest candidate. And then there are the distinctly non-favorites. So far the DNC (and Hillary) and CNN have waged a smear campaign against Sanders. Billionaires have donated heavily to Buttigieg (BidenB). But Buttigieg may not carry them across the finish line, so the DNC appears to be throwing its weight into Bloomberg (BidenC) by changing its rules to accommodate him. In addition to pumping up corporate-and-Israel friendly BidenA/B/C, the DNC is stacking the deck against Sanders, by filling the committee with deep-staters, and looks to be crafting a plan to bring superdelegates into play who don't have to follow the votes / caucuses of their states.
Am I missing anything about the 'democratic' party?
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"I Can't Believe the Amount of People Here": As Over 3,000 Rally for Sanders, Influential Iowa Survey Shelved
Turnout at the Cedar Rapids event stunned observers.
This is why they trashed the final Iowa poll. @BernieSanders has a dominant lead and the establishment shit itself. pic.twitter.com/YIsDypiaHW
— Ben Hauck ???? (@fightdenial) February 2, 2020
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/01/i-cant-believe-amount-peo
ple-here-over-3000-rally-sanders-influential-iowa-survey
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Can Bernie and Tulsi Survive Hillary’s ‘Urge’ to Save the DNC?
Tom Luongo
February 1, 2020
For months now I’ve been convinced that Hillary Clinton will be entering the fray that is the Democratic Party primary season. The affair to date has been a nothing short of high comedy.
Recent events have me more convinced than ever that she will be returning, like some zombie whose head we forgot to cut off, to haunt voters one more time this fall.
After the beginning of an obvious (and planned) PR campaign last week with the release of a big campaign ad documentary on Netflix and a big splash in the Hollywood Reporter Hillary finally stopped being coy. And she announced this week that she now ‘has the urge’ to run again against Donald Trump.
Save us, please, from Hillary’s urges…. Shudder.
And she did so making sure that everyone knew what she thought of the real front-runner for the nomination, Bernie Sanders.
As various anointed ones have dropped out of the race – Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Robert O’Rourke – others have faltered despite huge ad spends while the media and pollsters do their level best to convince us all that Joe Biden’s a serious candidate to take on Donald Trump this fall.
In fact, the only reason Biden is still in the race is to make the impeachment theater going on right now seem relevant and cogent. But, like Biden himself, it is neither.
Then again neither is Hillary, but never underestimate this woman’s narcissistic solipsism.
If you look back on the race to date it’s clear that most of the people running are there to try and distract voters away from the two candidates that resonate most with voters, Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard.
Yes, Gabbard is polling low but if you look at poll numbers versus money spent and/or raised to this point, she’s clearly got cache and the ability to build a real following. And as the field shrinks those distractions become irrelevant. Her poll numbers are rising the more the field winnows.
Neither of them is acceptable in any way to the DNC. They are outsiders within their party. I’m no fan of Bernie Sanders. In fact, I think he’s a terrible candidate — because, you know, commie! — but that’s not the point of this article.
Bernie is surging in the early states and panic is setting in with the DNC. And they must have a plan to stop him from running away with the nomination otherwise we could have two outsiders headlining this fall’s reality show.
And that plan starts with the impeachment and potential removal of Donald Trump.
The impeachment is a distraction for Trump but it is a real problem for the Senators running for the Democratic nomination. They have to spend all day listening to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler lie while they could be out campaigning and raising money.
This hurts Bernie the most because Bernie is the one who will get zero help from the DNC’s big donors. None of them are behind him and with good reason. He’s hostile to most of them (and most of us as well, but that’s a different article).
Of the people running for President as Democrats the only person less acceptable to Wall St. than Elizabeth Warren is Bernie Sanders. Warren’s entire campaign has been designed to push Bernie farther left by out-lefting him at every turn. Bernie says 70% top marginal tax rate, Warren says 77%. Bernie wants debt restructuring? Warren says forgive all student loan debt.
Her job is to make Bernie as unacceptable to mainstream U.S. voters as possible. Unfortunately, that makes Bernie more and more acceptable to a lot of people voting in the Democratic primaries. And this Catch-22 is beginning to show up in the polls for Iowa and New Hampshire.
Then there’s the serious money behind Pete Buttigieg trying to create slightly gayer version of Barack Obama. Again, he’s just another distraction to suck support away from Sanders and keep the field relatively close and the odds of an uncommitted primary season high.
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Wish I had a popcorn gif.
Although this is a clown show, these are quite pathetic clowns. Because they don't even know they are clowns.
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Can Bernie and Tulsi Survive Hillary’s ‘Urge’ to Save the DNC?
Tom Luongo
February 1, 2020
For months now I’ve been convinced that Hillary Clinton will be entering the fray that is the Democratic Party primary season. The affair to date has been a nothing short of high comedy.
Recent events have me more convinced than ever that she will be returning, like some zombie whose head we forgot to cut off, to haunt voters one more time this fall.
After the beginning of an obvious (and planned) PR campaign last week with the release of a big campaign ad documentary on Netflix and a big splash in the Hollywood Reporter Hillary finally stopped being coy. And she announced this week that she now ‘has the urge’ to run again against Donald Trump.
Save us, please, from Hillary’s urges…. Shudder.
And she did so making sure that everyone knew what she thought of the real front-runner for the nomination, Bernie Sanders.
As various anointed ones have dropped out of the race – Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Robert O’Rourke – others have faltered despite huge ad spends while the media and pollsters do their level best to convince us all that Joe Biden’s a serious candidate to take on Donald Trump this fall.
In fact, the only reason Biden is still in the race is to make the impeachment theater going on right now seem relevant and cogent. But, like Biden himself, it is neither.
Then again neither is Hillary, but never underestimate this woman’s narcissistic solipsism.
If you look back on the race to date it’s clear that most of the people running are there to try and distract voters away from the two candidates that resonate most with voters, Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard.
Yes, Gabbard is polling low but if you look at poll numbers versus money spent and/or raised to this point, she’s clearly got cache and the ability to build a real following. And as the field shrinks those distractions become irrelevant. Her poll numbers are rising the more the field winnows.
Neither of them is acceptable in any way to the DNC. They are outsiders within their party. I’m no fan of Bernie Sanders. In fact, I think he’s a terrible candidate — because, you know, commie! — but that’s not the point of this article.
Bernie is surging in the early states and panic is setting in with the DNC. And they must have a plan to stop him from running away with the nomination otherwise we could have two outsiders headlining this fall’s reality show.
And that plan starts with the impeachment and potential removal of Donald Trump.
The impeachment is a distraction for Trump but it is a real problem for the Senators running for the Democratic nomination. They have to spend all day listening to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler lie while they could be out campaigning and raising money.
This hurts Bernie the most because Bernie is the one who will get zero help from the DNC’s big donors. None of them are behind him and with good reason. He’s hostile to most of them (and most of us as well, but that’s a different article).
Of the people running for President as Democrats the only person less acceptable to Wall St. than Elizabeth Warren is Bernie Sanders. Warren’s entire campaign has been designed to push Bernie farther left by out-lefting him at every turn. Bernie says 70% top marginal tax rate, Warren says 77%. Bernie wants debt restructuring? Warren says forgive all student loan debt.
Her job is to make Bernie as unacceptable to mainstream U.S. voters as possible. Unfortunately, that makes Bernie more and more acceptable to a lot of people voting in the Democratic primaries. And this Catch-22 is beginning to show up in the polls for Iowa and New Hampshire.
Then there’s the serious money behind Pete Buttigieg trying to create slightly gayer version of Barack Obama. Again, he’s just another distraction to suck support away from Sanders and keep the field relatively close and the odds of an uncommitted primary season high.
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Her primary goal is to get the US out of all its self-appointed overseas 'interventions'. That doesn't sit well with the DNC or its masters.
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Didn't Tulsi have a falling out with the DNC around the time of the 2016 election?
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Yeah. When she saw their anti-Bernie machinations, she quit as Vice-chair. But her main goal as candidate for the 2020 nomination was/ is to get the US out of its foreign 'interventions'.
https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/dnc_vice_chair_resigns_endorses_sande
rs_blasts_clintons_interventionist_regime_change_policies/
DNC vice chair resigns, endorses Sanders, blasts Clinton's "interventionist, regime change policies"
BTW, the DNC hates Gabbard so much they backed her rival Kaiali'i Kahele for her House Seat.
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Oh.. yeah she sure did.
I looked up "tulsi gabbard" "debbie wasserman schultz" (because I thought I remembered the two of them mentioned together) and I found this from 2017:
I would imagine the DNC hates Tulsi for that one.
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Yeah. When she saw their anti-Bernie machinations, she quit as Vice-chair. But her main goal as candidate for the 2020 nomination was/ is to get the US out of its foreign 'interventions'.
https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/dnc_vice_chair_resigns_endorses_sande
rs_blasts_clintons_interventionist_regime_change_policies/
DNC vice chair resigns, endorses Sanders, blasts Clinton's "interventionist, regime change policies"
ETA: BTW, the DNC hates Gabbard so much they backed her rival Kaiali'i Kahele for her House Seat. So Gabbard dropped out of that race.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yeah. When she saw their anti-Bernie machinations, she quit as Vice-chair. But her main goal as candidate for the 2020 nomination was/ is to get the US out of its foreign 'interventions'.
https://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/dnc_vice_chair_resigns_endorses_sande
rs_blasts_clintons_interventionist_regime_change_policies/
DNC vice chair resigns, endorses Sanders, blasts Clinton's "interventionist, regime change policies"
ETA: BTW, the DNC hates Gabbard so much they backed her rival Kaiali'i Kahele for her House Seat. So Gabbard dropped out of that race.
Well... regardless of what her goals are, that's not something that the DNC is ever going to forget. (see, your edit lol)
And the Clintons have a lot more pull these days than people give them credit for, I think. Now they are able to do most of their string pulling outside of the public eye.
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Did Bernie get screwed out of the Iowa caucus?
Between the "gold standard" poll being pulled right before the Caucus, and the "app that failed" to report local precinct results, no matter WHAT results come in, nobody is going to believe them.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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I know * I'm * not going to believe the results!
But what I also want to point out is that while winning Iowa might give a campaign a boost, the Iowa vote only infrequently picks the eventual nominee.
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How come I don't hear any cries about Russians meddling here?
Maybe Russians hacked the brains of everyone working the primary in Iowa and now they can't count to 10 anymore.
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Should we start COUNTDOWN To The Fake Caucus Results? How many days will they need to defraud this vote?
I've heard that it is estimated the vote count will be completed just after the start of the State Of The Union Address.
Just never mind that men behind the curtain. !!Flying Monkeys!!
!Flying Space Monkeys!!
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Why do I have this nagging feeling in the back of my head that Hillary Clinton won the Iowa caucus?
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Quote:And these clowns are the folk who claim they can run Single Payer Healthcare for 350Million Americans.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why do I have this nagging feeling in the back of my head that Hillary Clinton won the Iowa caucus?
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And that they can reset the thermostat on the Sun, which will then stop heating up the Earth along with every other hunk of rock in our solar system.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/02/04/shadow-hillary-
staffers-n2560675
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So who thinks it will be Biden? Hilliary? Doomberg? Other?
Can any of them beat Trump, as long as he is still alive?
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I couldn't even tell you man. They're so corrupt and don't even bother trying to hide it anymore. Does it even matter who the Democrat voters choose at this point?
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mayor-pete-challenges-iowa-results-214
341714.html
Mayor Pete Challenges Iowa Results Now That Bernie Is Leading
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lol geez...
Bernie is leading now?
When did that happen?
These Democrat morons can't even properly rig their own elections or get their bullshit stories straight beforehand.
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Quote:Bernie had won outright the first 2 rounds. So they listed him in 2nd place.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mayor-pete-challenges-iowa-results-214
341714.html
Mayor Pete Challenges Iowa Results Now That Bernie Is Leading
Hadn't heard they moved him up to 1st.
Don't Democrats usually want a couple weeks after polling has closed to cough up their version of vote count?
hooo, boy.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/06/beyond-absurd-dnc-chair-t
om-perez-demands-recanvass-iowa-caucus-results-fully
https://nytimespost.com/iowa-democratic-party-chair-ignores-dnc-calls-
for-recount-of-caucus/
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lol
The whole Democrat party has turned itself into a meme in 2020.
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This is an interesting take, which basically says US politics have become so tribal, that policies, platforms, and messaging don't matter. What matters is whipping up hatred for 'the other' to drive your side out to vote.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-pro
file-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Bitecofer’s view of the electorate is driven, in part, by a new way to think about why Americans vote the way they do. ... the concept of “negative partisanship,” the idea that voters are more motivated to defeat the other side than by any particular policy goals.
In a piece explaining his work in POLITICO Magazine, Abramowitz wrote: “Over the past few decades, American politics has become like a bitter sports rivalry, in which the parties hang together mainly out of sheer hatred of the other team, rather than a shared sense of purpose. Republicans might not love the president, but they absolutely loathe his Democratic adversaries. And it’s also true of Democrats, who might be consumed by their internal feuds over foreign policy and the proper role of government were it not for Trump.”
Bitecofer took this insight and mapped it across the country. As she sees it, it isn’t quite right to refer to a Democratic or Republican “base.” Rather, there are Democratic and Republican coalitions, the first made of people of color, college-educated whites and people in metropolitan areas; the second, mostly noncollege whites, with a smattering of religious-minded voters, financiers and people in business, largely in rural and exurban counties.
“In the polarized era, the outcome isn’t really about the candidates. What matters is what percentage of the electorate is Republican and Republican leaners, and what percentage is Democratic and Democratic leaners, and how they get activated,” she said.
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If that's true, that would leave Signy's questions: what's in America's interests, what can we agree on, what can we work together on? as a lone voice in the wilderness, being whipped away by the wind.
This also seems to be the pattern in countries torn apart by war: Why We Hate. I wonder how close this mutual 'demonization of the opposition' might bring us to actual civil war.
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Who won Iowa? The DNC.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
This is an interesting take, which basically says US politics have become so tribal, that policies, platforms, and messaging don't matter. What matters is whipping up hatred for 'the other' to drive your side out to vote.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-pro
file-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Bitecofer’s view of the electorate is driven, in part, by a new way to think about why Americans vote the way they do. ... the concept of “negative partisanship,” the idea that voters are more motivated to defeat the other side than by any particular policy goals.
In a piece explaining his work in POLITICO Magazine, Abramowitz wrote: “Over the past few decades, American politics has become like a bitter sports rivalry, in which the parties hang together mainly out of sheer hatred of the other team, rather than a shared sense of purpose. Republicans might not love the president, but they absolutely loathe his Democratic adversaries. And it’s also true of Democrats, who might be consumed by their internal feuds over foreign policy and the proper role of government were it not for Trump.”
Bitecofer took this insight and mapped it across the country. As she sees it, it isn’t quite right to refer to a Democratic or Republican “base.” Rather, there are Democratic and Republican coalitions, the first made of people of color, college-educated whites and people in metropolitan areas; the second, mostly noncollege whites, with a smattering of religious-minded voters, financiers and people in business, largely in rural and exurban counties.
“In the polarized era, the outcome isn’t really about the candidates. What matters is what percentage of the electorate is Republican and Republican leaners, and what percentage is Democratic and Democratic leaners, and how they get activated,” she said.
I already read that. She's a lucky idiot, and I wouldn't put any stock in anything she has to say.
She also looks 62, but is only 42.
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Well, I went to 538 to read Nate Silver, and so far his prognostications haven't been all that good. But here we have 2 competing theses - Silver and Bitecofer - and 2 competing predictions (though 538 hasn't come out with an election prediction yet), plus there are your betting sites! which have come out with an opposite prediction to Bitecofer. So there's plenty of mental models out there to compare with the final result.
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Quote:Looks like it was Hilliary funded Acronym.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Who won Iowa? The DNC.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/feb/04/what-we-know-about-shad
ow-acronym-and-iowa-caucuse/
https://www.anotheracronym.org/
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, I went to 538 to read Nate Silver, and so far his prognostications haven't been all that good. But here we have 2 competing theses - Silver and Bitecofer - and 2 competing predictions (though 538 hasn't come out with an election prediction yet), plus there are your betting sites! which have come out with an opposite prediction to Bitecofer. So there's plenty of mental models out there to compare with the final result.
No fan of Silver either...
He got lucky years ago and is the perfect model for what Bitecofer's predictions are going to look like in future elections.
I don't like Bitecofer simply because she seems like a repugnant human being, and I didn't like the article because it was written by one or several "woke" leftists who just lap up the shit she's dishing, whether it's her predictions that Trump is going to lose in 2020 or her awful brand of third wave feminist superiority.
Professionally speaking, they're both far overrated. But I don't know anything personal about Silver. Bitecofer is just as gross on the inside as she is on the outside.
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Quote:Bitecofer’s theory, when you boil it down, is that modern American elections are rarely shaped by voters changing their minds, but rather by shifts in who decides to vote in the first place. To her critics, she’s an extreme apostle of the old saw that “turnout explains everything.”
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
This is an interesting take, which basically says US politics have become so tribal, that policies, platforms, and messaging don't matter. What matters is whipping up hatred for 'the other' to drive your side out to vote.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-pro
file-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtab
An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter
What if everything you think you know about politics is wrong? What if there aren’t really American swing voters—or not enough, anyway, to pick the next president? What if it doesn’t matter much who the Democratic nominee is? What if there is no such thing as “the center,” and the party in power can govern however it wants for two years, because the results of that first midterm are going to be bad regardless? What if the Democrats’ big 41-seat midterm victory in 2018 didn’t happen because candidates focused on health care and kitchen-table issues, but simply because they were running against the party in the White House? What if the outcome in 2020 is pretty much foreordained, too?
To the political scientist Rachel Bitecofer, all of that is almost certainly true, and that has made her one of the most intriguing new figures in political forecasting this year.
Bitecofer, a 42-year-old professor at Christopher Newport University in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia, was little known in the extremely online, extremely male-dominated world of political forecasting until November 2018. That’s when she nailed almost to the number the nature and size of the Democrats’ win in the House, even as other forecasters went wobbly in the race’s final days. Not only that, but she put out her forecast back in July, and then stuck by it while polling shifted throughout the summer and fall.
And today her model tells her the Democrats are a near lock for the presidency in 2020, and are likely to gain House seats and have a decent shot at retaking the Senate.
www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-ele
ction-forecasting-new-theory-108944
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You know, I live in deep, deep, deep blue California, so it's hard for me to get a gauge on what people elsewhere are thinking. Aside from family and friends, the only other people I've talked with are the young'uns at the restaurant who'll be voting for Sanders in the primary.
So your betting sites are a window into what I might not consider otherwise. But I don't have any particular feel or convincing data for how this is going to go. At this point, I'm not settled on anything - except that with very few exceptions, I'll probably be voting for 'not the democrat' again this year.
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Quote:You are so slow, 1kiki. On Monday I sent in my ballot for the Democratic Primary in Texas. It is easy to decide. Now I don't have to do a thing about politics until September, when I mail in my ballot for the November election.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You know, I live in deep, deep, deep blue California, so it's hard for me to get a gauge on what people elsewhere are thinking. Aside from family and friends, the only other people I've talked with are the young'uns at the restaurant who'll be voting for Sanders in the primary.
So your betting sites are a window into what I might not consider otherwise. But I don't have any particular feel or convincing data for how this is going to go. At this point, I'm not settled on anything - except that with very few exception, I'll probably voting for 'not the democrat' again this year.
www.harrisvotes.com/SampleBallot/DemocraticSampleBallot.pdf
Bitecofer’s theory, when you boil it down, is that modern American elections are rarely shaped by voters changing their minds, but rather by shifts in who decides to vote in the first place. To her critics, she’s an extreme apostle of the old saw that “turnout explains everything.”
An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter
www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-ele
ction-forecasting-new-theory-108944
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Oh, is it the general election already? Who's the democratic candidate?
You are so slow, 1kiki.
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Quote:Who is gonna be the Republican candidate for President? It could be Pence, or anybody, if Trump drops dead. That is highly likely. Eight Presidents died in office, four by assassination, out of 44 different men, and Trump will be 74 before the election, the oldest President in history, and the heaviest. He is likely to choke to death on his own fat or bleed to death from a stroke during one of his crazy rages.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Oh, is it the general election already? Who's the democratic candidate?
You are so slow, 1kiki.
The only thing you can be sure of is that either a Democrat or Republican will be the next President, but which D or R is unknowable, and in the bigger scheme of things, which party wins is what's important. Trump is a run-of-the-mill Republican, except for mental health problems, and V.P. Mike Pence, who could be next if Trump drops dead before the election, does not have mental issues and is not a career criminal like the President.
Age at Inauguration
www.potus.com/presidential-facts/age-at-inauguration/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
Keep hoping that Trump doesn't make it buddy. It's a much more likely scenario than him losing in November or showing Rachel Maddow what's in his taxes.
Seriously people, will somebody kick Second and get that robot out of repeat mode please?
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Yanno, in deep, deep, deep blue California, no matter who I vote for, it'll be just as effective as spitting on the sun to cool it down. So I'm not going to vote for anyone who hasn't earned my vote, no matter what the letter is after their name.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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I'm still debating who I'm voting for in the Democrat primary. Do I vote for the potentially least damaging candidate or the potentially most damaging candidate?
Not only can I do my part and sabotage the Democrat vote in Indiana since my vote for president doesn't matter otherwise in my state, but I won't be on any lefty idiots apps of lists of people who don't vote Democrat since they get that information for the apps by voter lists for primaries.
Win/win.
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Quote:Then move to Russia, 1kiki. There you can have real influence on who is next President. Rumor is Putin favors Republicans, but maybe you can persuade Putin to go with Bernie or whoever you prefer.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yanno, in deep, deep, deep blue California, no matter who I vote for, it'll be just as effective as spitting on the sun to cool it down. So I'm not going to vote for anyone who hasn't earned my vote, no matter what the letter is after their name.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Oh... and I found a schematic for Second's synthetic brain on reddit.
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Quote:Your schematic mentions the Queen and Brexit. That is a mistake since I am in Texas, not Britain. And the schematic fails to account for benefits Trump pays me. Your schematic can't handle me winning no matter if the coin flip of an election comes up on the D side or the R side of the coin.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and I found a schematic for Second's synthetic brain on reddit.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Your schematic mentions the Queen and Brexit. That is a mistake since I am in Texas, not Britain. And the schematic fails to account for benefits Trump pays me. Your schematic can't handle me winning no matter if the coin flip of an election comes up on the D side or the R side of the coin.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and I found a schematic for Second's synthetic brain on reddit.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I'm sure your subroutines are altered slightly based on your location.
I dunno though. Maybe that wasn't the Queen of England referenced in your coding. What did you think of the movie Rhapsody?
If I were an NPC like you and had coding in my hypothetical synthetic brain for your little win/win situation, I imagine it would look something like this:
if(Second.FakeMoney == FakeMoney.BIGFAKETAXRETURN)
Second.Don'tGiveAShit = true;
I can imagine this, because I'm not an NPC and I have agency and I am self aware.
What I can't imagine, is what it must be like to rely completely on other people to tell me what to think. It's something that you could never fully explain to me, Second, because it would be like trying to explain what the color Red looks like to a blind person.
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Quote:I have just now downloaded Bohemian.Rhapsody.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA.mkv. My review? Gay fantasy ending tragically: "In 1992, Queen and Jim Beach established The Mercury Phoenix Trust in Freddie’s honor, dedicated to fighting AIDS worldwide."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure your subroutines are altered slightly based on your location.
I dunno though. Maybe that wasn't the Queen of England referenced in your coding. What did you think of the movie Rhapsody?
If I were an NPC like you and had coding in my hypothetical synthetic brain for your little win/win situation,
The reason Trump won in 2016 was not, she says, because of a bunch of disaffected blue-collar former Democrats in the Midwest; it is because a combination of Jill Stein, Gary Johnson and Evan McMullin pulled away more than 6 percent of voters in a state like Michigan. These were anti-Hillary voters, yes—but they were anti-Trump voters especially, and they are likely to come to the Democratic fold this time around if they’re given a reason.
Trump appears to understand Bitecofer’s theories as well as anyone in politics. He leans into the divisions and negative partisanship. In 2018, Trump turned the midterms into a referendum on him, warning that Democrats would bring crime and chaos into their neighborhoods if they won. There was a turnout surge among Trump voters in some places, but it wasn’t enough to offset the Democratic gains.
Bitecofer already sees the Trump playbook coming together for 2020: warning of a demographic takeover by nonwhites in order to boost turnout among noncollege white voters, and trying to sow chaos in the Democratic ranks so that supporters of a losing primary candidate either stay home or support a third-party candidate.
www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-ele
ction-forecasting-new-theory-108944
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Quote:I have exactly one vote, which I will freely exercise in this crippled democracy.
Then move to Russia, 1kiki. There you can have real influence on who is next President. Rumor is Putin favors Republicans, but maybe you can persuade Putin to go with Bernie or whoever you prefer.
But have you seen the equation, SECOND?
$1 = 1 vote
You, SECOND, you have all SORTS of votes! (assuming you have the money you claim you do). And you have all SORTS of influence! (assuming you know the veeps you claim you know).
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND! and make sure a democrat gets elected! (assuming you actually care about the thing you obsessively post about).
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:The equation that rules the political world is 1 bullet = one less President. But to solve that equation requires a special person. In fiction, River Tam. In life, Lee Harvey Oswald and John Wilkes Booth.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:I have exactly one vote, which I will freely exercise in this crippled democracy.
Then move to Russia, 1kiki. There you can have real influence on who is next President. Rumor is Putin favors Republicans, but maybe you can persuade Putin to go with Bernie or whoever you prefer.
But have you seen the equation, SECOND?
$1 = 1 vote
Assassination of Indira Gandhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Indira_Gandhi#Assassina
tion
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Well then it doesn't matter who I vote for, does it, SECOND?
So what's your malfunction about my vote?
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND, and use your money and influence !! (assuming you have any, of course). 
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:No matter how many times I tell you, you never understand. I win when a Republican wins, but I vote for Democrats because of what Nixon did during the Vietnam War and all the Republican voters who supported that war. I should have listened to Noam Chomsky, but I was a redneck, not a hippie, so I volunteered. Once there, I discovered that Republicans had totally lost track of reality, even when it was shooting at them. Republican voters are always off the rails, which is why I can depend on them to give me money.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well then it doesn't matter who I vote for, does it, SECOND?
So what's your malfunction about my vote?
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND, and use your money and influence !! (assuming you have any, of course).
Vietnam is 50 years ago. Chomsky was right then and he remains right:
Noam Chomsky Calls Trump and Republican Allies "Criminally Insane"
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/noam-chomsky-calls-tr
ump-and-republican-allies-criminally-insane/
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Quote:Well, then SECOND, you OBVIOUSLY don't mean what you say about republicans because you don't exert yourself to walk your talk.
No matter how many times I tell you, you never understand. I win when a Republican wins ...
Now I know where you're coming from. Your food bowl.
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND, and use your money and influence !! (assuming you have any, of course).
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:I could, but I won't. I am not spending money to pollute the airwaves with political advertisement. If I wanted to be truly effective in politics, my real expertise is killing people from a helicopter. That was almost the best job I ever had, but not as good as Burger King. Free fries and milkshakes! I could use my skills on Trump, but I won't. (Over feeding him or shooting him) I will let the people decide what happens to him. No amount of talking in Vietnam ever changed a Republican's mind about how ridiculous the military strategy was. No amount of political advertising will change a Republican's mind about how ridiculous Trump is.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Well, then SECOND, you OBVIOUSLY don't mean what you say about republicans because you don't exert yourself to walk your talk.
No matter how many times I tell you, you never understand. I win when a Republican wins ...
Now I know where you're coming from. Your food bowl.
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND, and use your money and influence !! (assuming you have any, of course).
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I have just now downloaded Bohemian.Rhapsody.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA.mkv. My review? Gay fantasy ending tragically: "In 1992, Queen and Jim Beach established The Mercury Phoenix Trust in Freddie’s honor, dedicated to fighting AIDS worldwide."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure your subroutines are altered slightly based on your location.
I dunno though. Maybe that wasn't the Queen of England referenced in your coding. What did you think of the movie Rhapsody?
If I were an NPC like you and had coding in my hypothetical synthetic brain for your little win/win situation,
Do you think that's a fair review?
I mean you downloaded the movie and replied to my post with your review only 15 minutes after I asked the question.
Does your synthetic brain allow you to process the mkv directly in your brain and give immediate output? Kind of like Johnny 5 reading a book?
I know it sounds like sarcasm, Second, but I'm truly trying as hard as I can to understand the mind of an automaton so I can better empathize with your kind in the future.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Now I know where you're coming from. Your food bowl.
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND, and use your money and influence !! (assuming you have any, of course).
Quote:Your money will be far more effective than trolling here, SECOND! You just don't want to - because - food bowl. You certainly can't eat it all, bur damn if anyone else is going to get any!
I could, but I won't. I am not spending money to pollute the airwaves with political advertisement.
Time to get off your heinie, SECOND, and use your money and influence !! (assuming you have any, of course).
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:When I play a movie, I have total control. I do things at my speed and make my decisions. I already knew the songs and biography of Freddie Mercury. I did the same on that movie you can't stop praising, Joker. The comic book Joker figured into my loathing of that movie. But there was the mass murdering, Joker killing his Mother, and Joker killing his therapist at Arkham Asylum in the very last scene and tracking the therapist's blood down the hallway. The whole purpose of that movie is icky as is Trump's purpose. Read about Trump's purpose in "Noam Chomsky Calls Trump and Republican Allies "Criminally Insane"" which is much like Joker.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I have just now downloaded Bohemian.Rhapsody.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA.mkv. My review? Gay fantasy ending tragically: "In 1992, Queen and Jim Beach established The Mercury Phoenix Trust in Freddie’s honor, dedicated to fighting AIDS worldwide."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure your subroutines are altered slightly based on your location.
I dunno though. Maybe that wasn't the Queen of England referenced in your coding. What did you think of the movie Rhapsody?
If I were an NPC like you and had coding in my hypothetical synthetic brain for your little win/win situation,
Do you think that's a fair review?
I mean you downloaded the movie and replied to my post with your review only 15 minutes after I asked the question.
Does your synthetic brain allow you to process the mkv directly in your brain and give immediate output? Kind of like Johnny 5 reading a book?
I know it sounds like sarcasm, Second, but I'm truly trying as hard as I can to understand the mind of an automaton so I can better empathize with your kind in the future.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/noam-chomsky-calls-tr
ump-and-republican-allies-criminally-insane/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:When I play a movie, I have total control. I do things at my speed and make my decisions. I already knew the songs and biography of Freddie Mercury. I did the same on that movie you can't stop praising, Joker. The comic book Joker figured into my loathing of that movie. But there was the mass murdering, Joker killing his Mother, and Joker killing his therapist at Arkham Asylum in the very last scene and tracking the therapist's blood down the hallway. The whole purpose of that movie is icky as is Trump's purpose. Read about Trump's purpose in "Noam Chomsky Calls Trump and Republican Allies "Criminally Insane"" which is much like Joker.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I have just now downloaded Bohemian.Rhapsody.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA.mkv. My review? Gay fantasy ending tragically: "In 1992, Queen and Jim Beach established The Mercury Phoenix Trust in Freddie’s honor, dedicated to fighting AIDS worldwide."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure your subroutines are altered slightly based on your location.
I dunno though. Maybe that wasn't the Queen of England referenced in your coding. What did you think of the movie Rhapsody?
If I were an NPC like you and had coding in my hypothetical synthetic brain for your little win/win situation,
Do you think that's a fair review?
I mean you downloaded the movie and replied to my post with your review only 15 minutes after I asked the question.
Does your synthetic brain allow you to process the mkv directly in your brain and give immediate output? Kind of like Johnny 5 reading a book?
I know it sounds like sarcasm, Second, but I'm truly trying as hard as I can to understand the mind of an automaton so I can better empathize with your kind in the future.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/noam-chomsky-calls-tr
ump-and-republican-allies-criminally-insane/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You have no control, Second. Your subroutines are in control.
You just downloaded and "watched" Rhapsody in less than 15 minutes and wrote a review on it. This is not human behavior. You are an automaton.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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When we last heard the story ...
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, I went to 538 to read Nate Silver, and so far his prognostications haven't been all that good. But here we have 2 competing theses - Silver and Bitecofer - and 2 competing predictions (though 538 hasn't come out with an election prediction yet), plus there are your betting sites! which have come out with an opposite prediction to Bitecofer. So there's plenty of mental models out there to compare with the final result.
No fan of Silver either...
He got lucky years ago and is the perfect model for what Bitecofer's predictions are going to look like in future elections.
I don't like Bitecofer simply because she seems like a repugnant human being, and I didn't like the article because it was written by one or several "woke" leftists who just lap up the shit she's dishing, whether it's her predictions that Trump is going to lose in 2020 or her awful brand of third wave feminist superiority.
Professionally speaking, they're both far overrated. But I don't know anything personal about Silver. Bitecofer is just as gross on the inside as she is on the outside.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Well, I watched the debate last night. The NYTimes said that Butting was a 'winner' but I thought he came across as evasive. There were a couple of questions he was challenged on after he gave non-responsive talking points, and he stumbled in obviously clumsy circles to evade the challenge. It was pretty plain to me. BUT tptb want him to be BidenB, because 'anybody but Sanders', so GO MAYOR PETE is their assessment. Sanders did well, answered the questions and made his points. Warren did OK, answered the questions, made her points, but she got not much air time. Biden tried to come across as 'not sleepy Joe' and came across as a testy old man. He actually did make more points than normal. Klobuchar and Steyer were also in good form. Yang was ... Yang. He got not much airtime, but his mono-argument of give very American $1000 a month doesn't take much airtime.
Steyer is the only one who changed his argument, to 'we need to beat Trump on the economy'.
If you've followed any of the previous debates, you pretty much know what their positions are and how they come across as people. I don't think the ground shifted all that much except for perhaps Klobuchar, who got a lot more airtime and used it well. It might move the needle on a few percent.
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I didn't see it, but I heard that Klobuchar was the only one up there who voiced any opposition to Socialism.
Do you feel that was true?
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That's kind of been her theme all along, especially regarding healthcare. Since I've been following the debates, it didn't stand out for me as new or different from her previous debates. But she did highlight it last night.
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Quote:I don't recall in your state, but in WI there is a formula for state funding of smaller Parties, like campaign funding based uopon votes in the prior election. So you can vote for the most valid candidate in your smaller elections, but in the state-wides where your vote will be meaningless, you can vote for the favorite smaller Party, regardless of the seat or the candidate (you know they won't win) - because you vote actually will make a difference for the funding of that smaller party. Because that helps balance the discussion. And if any state needs another viable party, it is CA.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yanno, in deep, deep, deep blue California, no matter who I vote for, it'll be just as effective as spitting on the sun to cool it down. So I'm not going to vote for anyone who hasn't earned my vote, no matter what the letter is after their name.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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I heard the Iowa vote could be tallied the day after New Hampshire completes their tally.
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Quote:Does not the DNC certify and allocate which state groups are allowed to have elections on which days, months OR NOT?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
hooo, boy.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/06/beyond-absurd-dnc-chair-t
om-perez-demands-recanvass-iowa-caucus-results-fully
https://nytimespost.com/iowa-democratic-party-chair-ignores-dnc-calls-
for-recount-of-caucus/
Can't the DNC just state that in the next election cycle, Iowa must perform their vote in April or else not be allowed to present electors or delegates at the Dem Convention?
Isn't Iowa poking the bear here?
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I didn't realize this was from a couple months ago already.
In that pic, clearly Stretch Pelosi is overdue for another re-stretching.
https://www.thenewscommenter.com/news/2020-democratic-candidates-are-g
oing-too-far-left-says-nancy-pelosi/1225858
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https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/scheer-intelligence/the-clinton-mac
hine-will-do-anything-to-stop-bernie
“[Bill and Hillary Clinton] set up a machine that was really a juggernaut with all this corporate money they brought in through the Democratic Leadership Committee,” says Blumenthal. “It was a very different structure than we'd seen with previous democratic candidates who relied heavily on unions and the Civil Rights Coalition.
“And that machine never went away,” the journalist goes on. “It kept growing kind of like this amoeba that began to engulf the party and politics itself. So that when Bill Clinton was out of power, the machine was passed to Hillary Clinton, and the machine followed her into the Senate. And the machine grew into the Clinton Global Initiative.”
The two journalists discuss what some of the main reasons Sanders is facing so much resistance within the Democratic Party, in addition to his views on Palestine. Blumenthal believes there will be a repeat of what happened in 1972 when George McGovern ran for president.
“I think that if Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, there will be an effort to ‘McGovern’ him,” he posits. “[The Democratic Party will] hope that Bernie Sanders gets destroyed by Donald Trump, and then wag their fingers at the left for the next 20 years until they get another Bill Clinton.
“I think that they don't know how to stop him at this point,” Blumenthal continues, “but they're willing to let him be the nominee and go down to Donald Trump, because Bernie Sanders threatens their interests, and the movement behind him particularly, more than Donald Trump does.”
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I'm posting this here because - this writer has a way with words that hits me in the funnybone!
But by far the most bombastic display of unbridled Sanders-Commie-Kill-Swarm-Panic was MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, who totally lost it after the last debate and started sputtering about “socialists” staging public mass-executions in Central Park. Matthews is apparently firmly convinced that Sanders, if he wins the election, plans to dress up like Fidel Castro, march Matthews and his cronies out onto the Great Lawn, and go full-bore Daenerys Targaryen on them. He sat there, trembling, on national television, eyes afire with paranoia, jabbering about the godless “Reds” like a scene from Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove that got cut because it was too over-the-top.
Seriously, though, I doubt he has much to worry about. Regardless of who wins the election this year, the supranational corporatocracy that essentially owns the U.S. government is not about to let Bernie Sanders implement the same basic social programs that most capitalist countries throughout world have provided to their people for decades. Jesus, just imagine the freedomless horror if Americans could go to university, and, you know, maybe raise a child or two, without spending the rest of their lives in debt! Think of the suffering that would inflict on the banks, and insurance companies, and military contractors, not to mention the pharmaceutical industry. God help America, should it go down that road! The next thing you know there’d be high-speed trains, subsidized art, and un-chlorinated chicken … there’s no telling where the nightmare would end.
Look, I don’t normally get invested in the quadrennial Simulation of Democracy, but I’m kind of pulling for Bernie this time. I don’t believe he has a chance, but if he somehow managed to outfox the Democrats and win the nomination this summer, it would be fun to watch as the corporate media and the rest of the neoliberal Resistance react to a Sanders vs. Trump election.
Not that either Sanders or Trump, the men themselves, are a threat to the empire (as we have witnessed over the course of the last three years). But we’re in the middle of a War on Populism, which the global corporatocracy needs to win if it is going to continue to relentlessly destabilize, privatize, and restructure everything, as it has been doing since the end of the Cold War. Sanders and Trump are just symbols, of course, lightning rods for “populist” anger … but they are symbols the empire needs to destroy in order to reestablish “normality.”
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I'm posting this here because - this writer has a way with words that hits me in the funnybone!
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Your schematic mentions the Queen and Brexit. That is a mistake since I am in Texas, not Britain. And the schematic fails to account for benefits Trump pays me. Your schematic can't handle me winning no matter if the coin flip of an election comes up on the D side or the R side of the coin.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and I found a schematic for Second's synthetic brain on reddit.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I'm sure your subroutines are altered slightly based on your location.
I dunno though. Maybe that wasn't the Queen of England referenced in your coding. What did you think of the movie Rhapsody?
If I were an NPC like you and had coding in my hypothetical synthetic brain for your little win/win situation, I imagine it would look something like this:
if(Second.FakeMoney == FakeMoney.BIGFAKETAXRETURN)
Second.Don'tGiveAShit = true;
I can imagine this, because I'm not an NPC and I have agency and I am self aware.
What I can't imagine, is what it must be like to rely completely on other people to tell me what to think. It's something that you could never fully explain to me, Second, because it would be like trying to explain what the color Red looks like to a blind person.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Oh. Hey. I found out what Yaaas Queen means.
We were both wrong!
I still don't know what Slay Queen means, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that your NPC brethren in Texas can use it without fear of British cultural appropriation!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS QUEEN!
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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