Countdown Clock, Trumps Removal 'Starts'
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This is not to enjoy...
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Well then, don't enjoy it. Whatever.
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The heart of the impeachment charges against Trump
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/01/ukrainegate-is-all-about-a-pers
onal-benefit/
There’s the matter of the Ukrainian aid. Republicans perceive Democrats as simply ignoring the long history of administrations using aid to reward or punish foreign governments for their actions.
This is it. The big difference between Trump and Biden — and everyone else — is that Trump used military aid as a way to extort a personal benefit from Ukraine. That’s the start and the finish of the whole thing. If he had used military aid as bait to get Ukraine to fall in line with American interests in one way or another, no one would have blinked. But Republicans pretend that Joe Biden did the same thing, withholding aid to Ukraine in return for firing a prosecutor who was investigating Hunter Biden. This is simply a lie. Biden was publicly carrying out US policy which was supported by the president, the State Department, and virtually all of Europe.
Trump used the aid as bait to get a personal favor from Ukraine: namely an investigation into an opponent in a presidential campaign. That’s as plain an example of abuse of power as you could imagine. And after he was caught, Trump didn’t apologize or promise not to do it again or anything like that. He conducted a scorched-earth attack that left Democrats with no choice but to impeach.
Lots of my fellow liberals have been calling for Trump’s impeachment practically since he was elected. I haven’t. As much as I loathe the man, I didn’t think he had done any single truly impeachable thing, and I also wasn’t sure that impeachment was politically wise anyway. Then came Ukraine. I continued to think that impeachment might be politically unwise, but it took only a few weeks for the question of whether Trump’s actions were impeachable to become obvious. Of course they were. Secretly withholding congressionally approved military aid in return for a personal benefit? Putting responsibility for this in the hands of his personal lawyer instead of US diplomats? Instructing aides to lie to Congress about what was going on? Politically wise or not, of course Trump had to be impeached over this. It would be both cowardly and a mockery of the Constitution to do otherwise.
But this all hangs on the fact that Trump’s price was personal, not national. This is the thing that I suspect hardly anyone really gets. Investigating a campaign opponent is a personal benefit. In an autocracy, campaigns are treated as mere appendages of governing, but in democracies they aren’t. We’re a democracy.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Mitch McConnell has one goal here: to keep the trial short and the public bored enough not to watch it. Refusing to allow new evidence is part of that: it ensures that nobody bothers turning on their TV in hopes that something new and exciting will happen. With no new testimony, what then is the point of watching?
As long as the trial is short and dull, McConnell wins. Very few people even know who John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney are, let alone whether they avoided having to testify.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Ratings were already abysmal by the end of the Democrat house sham. No reason to think that anybody is going to tune into them now. Most people have already moved on.
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Ratings were already abysmal by the end of the Democrat house sham. No reason to think that anybody is going to tune into them now. Most people have already moved on.
Probably because most people know he's guilty af and they also know the math is against removing him. So no surprises, no drama - dullsville.
Now, if they could call witnesses and get 'Stache and Harry Potter on the stand... that'd be must see tv.
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Mitch McConnell has one goal here: to keep the trial short and the public bored enough not to watch it. Refusing to allow new evidence is part of that: it ensures that nobody bothers turning on their TV in hopes that something new and exciting will happen. With no new testimony, what then is the point of watching?
As long as the trial is short and dull, McConnell wins. Very few people even know who John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney are, let alone whether they avoided having to testify.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
The Senate itself is on trial
The first question is whether Senate Republicans will hear all the relevant evidence or merely orchestrate a coverup. There are many fact witnesses who have not yet testified, including the president himself, and floods of relevant new documents emerge virtually daily. To actually try the case, the Senate must hear those witnesses and consider those documents. To refuse to do so is to deny the implicit constitutional mandate requiring an honest and good faith proceeding in the Senate to establish the truth.
Those Republicans feel compelled to engage in such transgressions for an imperative political reason. They recognize that they must exclude those witnesses and documents because they would further support the case against Trump. Indeed, their determination to exclude that very evidence testifies to their recognition that, if it is considered fairly, the additional information would almost certainly require that they convict Trump.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-senate-itself-is-on-trial/a
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And here is the second article of impeachment against Richard Nixon:
He misused the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Secret Service, and other executive personnel, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance or other investigations for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office….
Back in 1974, directing an “investigation” for purposes “unrelated” to lawful functions of the office produced a 27-11 vote in the Judiciary Committee for impeachment. Those 11 votes against impeachment? That was 11 Republicans. If the vote was today, all the Republicans would have been against impeachment of Nixon. Today, extorting an investigation from Ukraine for personal gain produces nothing but sophistry from Republicans.
It is plain to everyone that Trump’s lengthy battering of Ukraine — which went on for months and months — was not a legitimate use of his office. He never asked Ukraine to take action against corruption in general. He asked for only one thing: an investigation of Hunter Biden. That’s it. That’s all he wanted. And it was worth millions of dollars to him, far more than any ordinary illegal campaign contribution delivered in a plain black suitcase.
https://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachment
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Stick a fork in him. Shifty Schiff is done.
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