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STAR WARS Episode 9: The Final Abortion

POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 15:30
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Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:15 PM

Well... This just in...

Seems everything has been updated while I was writing that post.

https://www.the-numbers.com/daily-box-office-chart


Jumanji's Sixth Friday estimated take: $2,175,000
Episode 8's Fifth Friday estimated take: $1,978,000

And just for fun:
Joker's Fifth Friday confirmed take: $3,810,641
Joker's Sixth Friday confirmed take: $2,527,562

Yup... It took one week longer, but it seems that Joker is beating Jumanji in the Sixth Week as well.



Unless there were some other movies that could possibly be in the top five, that puts Episode 8 in 5th place under Bad Boys For Life, Dolittle, 1917 and Jumanji.

Stick a fork in this turd.


Side note: I'm personally glad that in 2020 we've evolved to the point where we could resist the temptation to call it Bad Boys 4 Life.




EDITED TO ADD: Whoops. Joker actually beat Jumanji's 5th Friday as well ($3,346,991), although it did lose to Jumanji in the 5th Saturday and 5th Sunday by a little. Joker did beat Jumanji handily every day since Monday through the rest of it's 5th week and looking at last night's numbers it's probably safe to assume that Jumanji will not ever beat Joker's per day B.O. numbers from here on out either.



EDIT on Side Note: I think I gave them too much credit. Bad Boys 4 is in the works. I bet somebody really, REALLY wanted to call this Bad Boys 4 Life, but knowing they were already planning the fourth sequel they were probably learning from Nintendo's mistake and trying to avoid the Wii/Wii U confusion that killed their sales.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 18, 2020 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... This just in...

Seems everything has been updated while I was writing that post.

https://www.the-numbers.com/daily-box-office-chart


Jumanji's Sixth Friday estimated take: $2,175,000
Episode 8's Fifth Friday estimated take: $1,978,000

And just for fun:
Joker's Fifth Friday confirmed take: $3,810,641
Joker's Sixth Friday confirmed take: $2,527,562

Yup... It took one week longer, but it seems that Joker is beating Jumanji in the Sixth Week as well.



Unless there were some other movies that could possibly be in the top five, that puts Episode 8 in 5th place under Bad Boys For Life, Dolittle, 1917 and Jumanji.

Stick a fork in this turd.


Side note: I'm personally glad that in 2020 we've evolved to the point where we could resist the temptation to call it Bad Boys 4 Life.




EDITED TO ADD: Whoops. Joker actually beat Jumanji's 5th Friday as well ($3,346,991), although it did lose to Jumanji in the 5th Saturday and 5th Sunday by a little. Joker did beat Jumanji handily every day since Monday through the rest of it's 5th week and looking at last night's numbers it's probably safe to assume that Jumanji will not ever beat Joker's per day B.O. numbers from here on out either.



EDIT on Side Note: I think I gave them too much credit. Bad Boys 4 is in the works. I bet somebody really, REALLY wanted to call this Bad Boys 4 Life, but knowing they were already planning the fourth sequel they were probably learning from Nintendo's mistake and trying to avoid the Wii/Wii U confusion that killed their sales.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



"Bad Boys for Life" has been getting good reviews, not great but good. So lets forget that big mistake Disney made last Christmas and enjoy what looks like some great flicks coming out THIS year...except "Doolittle", stay the fuck away from that. I guess ole' Rob thought people would go see him in anything, WRONG! Jim Carrey made that mistake.

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
"Bad Boys for Life" has been getting good reviews, not great but good. So lets forget that big mistake Disney made last Christmas and enjoy what looks like some great flicks coming out THIS year...except "Doolittle", stay the fuck away from that. I guess ole' Rob thought people would go see him in anything, WRONG! Jim Carrey made that mistake.



I'm sure it's entertaining. Martin Lawrence IMO is the funniest black dude alive. Black Knight hype!



Maybe he's just the remedy to resurrect Will Smith's dying career. I didn't even know a new Bad Boys was a thing until now... I might actually be inclined to watch that one.


In the mean time, I'll be posting about Disney losing their ass on this turd. I'm loving every second of it, and quite enjoying putting together the graph showing Joker beating the shit out of it on the reg.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'll be posting about Disney losing their ass on this turd. I'm loving every second of it, and quite enjoying putting together the graph showing Joker beating the shit out of it on the reg.

Why not laugh at Universal Pictures, the same company that made Serenity, for making 1917 in 2019? 1917 cost $100,000,000 but has ticket sales of only $82,000,000 so far.

While you are laughing, go right ahead and direct more of your contempt at Universal because Serenity, with a budget of $39 million, only had a box office of $39 million. I loved it despite it performing like a far below average genre picture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_(2019_film)
www.the-numbers.com/movie/1917-(2019)#tab=box-office



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 7:26 PM

I've already given Universal their due shit for Serenity.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've already given Universal their due shit for Serenity.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

As a business decision, Serenity lost money for Universal Pictures. Maybe Universal shouldn't even have made it. As a business decision, Episode 9 makes money for Disney. It would have been an even better business decision for Disney to have made a movie that didn't stink, since it probably would sell more tickets, but Disney would have had to throw away a train wreck of a screenplay and write a better one rather than going full throttle to finish Episode 9 in two years. The idea of having J.J. Abrams both write and direct Episode 9 didn't work too well as far as ticket sales, but it worked better than on Serenity with writer/director Joss Whedon. You know there are two versions of the Serenity script. The longer one is the better story. Joss hacked out pages to cut the 190 page version down to 2 hours and it shows. Maybe Tim Minear should have wrote it, since he wrote the best episodes of Firefly.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:20 PM

I agree. They shouldn't have made Serenity.

I've had long discussions here in the past about why that movie was terrible. It's not that it wasn't enjoyable and/or great to see them all again, but it was terrible because of all of the stories that could have been told that weren't because they had to rush and wrap 10 seasons worth of potentiality in a 2 hour bow.

Sadly, Firefly just came out at the wrong time. Had Netflix been making TV shows and been around 10 years earlier, it almost surely would have gotten a second life like Arrested Development did.



It's extremely arguable that Disney is making any money off of Episode 9. The production budget we're being told doesn't take into account the reshoots and all of the editing in the 11th hour. It also doesn't account for the insane marketing budget either. Toy sales are almost non-existant as well, which is not something Disney would have banked on in a million years when they paid out 4+ Billion for Lucasfilm. But they figured it out pretty quick when they had to send millions of dollars to the recycle plants to be cubed. Some even say that the final nail in Toys R Us's coffin was bad sales numbers on Star Wars toys.

Disney is still quite a bit in the hole on that purchase, and there's no way that they would have believed that would be the case in 2020 when they bought it.

The Force Awakens made $2,068,223,624 in the box office.
The Last Jedi made $1,332,539,889.

At only $1,005,002,227 with a thousand theaters slashed and ticket sales slowing almost to a dead stop, Episode 9 is going to be lucky if it even reaches $1.05 Million... about half of what Episode 7 made.


They've realized their mistake, and that's obvious because of such a huge shift that Disney has made regarding the future of the franchise. It wasn't franchise fatigue that killed Star Wars. It was bad story telling and the woke agenda.

They'll eventually make their $4 Billion investment back and keep it a relatively marketable property for probably generations to come, but it's just a mediocre property now. The excitement is gone. Nobody cares. And a quick look at the box office shows that sentiment is worldwide... not just in the US.

They thought they were buying into another Marvel Universe type scenario. They probably actually were, before they devalued it with their choices.


We'll see what happens with the new phase in Marvel movies. I'm not really hopeful that they learned their Star Wars lesson and we're going to see phase two take a shit as well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:35 PM

This just in...

Estimates for Episode 9 for Weekend Five are even lower than expected...

EPISODE 9 WEEKEND 5:
Jan 17, 2020 $1,978,000 - $647 per theater.
Jan 18, 2020 $3,534,000 - $1,156 per theater.
Jan 19, 2020 $2,862,000 - $936 per theater.

Not quite $10 Million, is it?


Although it lost on Sunday, Joker's Weekend Six beat Episode 9 on both Friday and Saturday and for the total weekend BO, as well as per-theater averages.

JOKER WEEKEND 6:
Nov 8, 2019 $2,527,562 - $901 per theater.
Nov 9, 2019 $3,931,139 - $1,401 per theater.
Nov 10, 2019 $2,762,602 - $985 per theater.



Everybody should also keep in mind that Joker was rated R. I'm sure that's the only reason why it didn't perform better than Episode 9's 5th Sunday on it's 6th Sunday.

If Star Wars still didn't have what was left of it's dwindling fan base and/or people who saw it in the first two weeks out of morbid curiosity, Joker likely would have beat it in the box office. The numbers we're seeing now after the massive amounts of cash Disney raked in during the first two weekends is an anomaly. By all rights, this movie shouldn't have even grossed more than $850 Million internationally. If it didn't have Star Wars in the title it wouldn't have.


Week 5 should be fun to graph and laugh.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I agree. They shouldn't have made Serenity.

I've had long discussions here in the past about why that movie was terrible. It's not that it wasn't enjoyable and/or great to see them all again, but it was terrible because of all of the stories that could have been told that weren't because they had to rush and wrap 10 seasons worth of potentiality in a 2 hour bow.

Sadly, Firefly just came out at the wrong time. Had Netflix been making TV shows and been around 10 years earlier, it almost surely would have gotten a second life like Arrested Development did.

I don't know that Joss Whedon had enough ideas to stretch Firefly to 84 episodes like Arrested Development. If Joss did have the ideas, he should have written them down and shared a copy of them with the comic book writers. They seem to be struggling to get a second Unification War started, the 'Verse's WWII, with Mal playing Winston Churchill and I don't know who plays Hitler.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:51 PM

I'm not a big comic guy... I've never read or even seen any of them. Are they any good?


BTW... something I talked about years ago was the potential of the Firefly Universe. Two of my favorite sci-fi books could easily have been about different times before and/or during the events that lead up to the show and even while the show was occurring.

The Legacy of Heorot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legacy_of_Heorot

The Great Explosion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Explosion


The idea of space being a frontier is infinitely interesting.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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