Russia wants to upend Western democracy

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Putin approves law targeting journalists as 'foreign agents'

Vladimir Putin has signed a law that will allow Russia to declare journalists and bloggers as “foreign agents” in a move critics say will allow the Kremlin to target government critics.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-approves-law-targeting-jour
nalists-as-foreign-agents/ar-BBXGvc7?ocid=spartandhp

Dear comrades kiki, and sig. While you're bashing America, your homeland is crumbling. It's turning into one big gulag. A country that is just one big penal system. Don't forget to show your papers when you visit your relatives there.

Dos Vadanya

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THG

Wednesday, December 4, 2019 6:20 AM

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From where I'm sitting, that's exactly what you Lefty Looney Toons are trying to tear down.

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Lindsey Graham says he's '1,000% confident' Russia meddled in 2016 US election -- not Ukraine

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Tuesday said he is "1,000% confident" that Russia, not Ukraine, meddled in the 2016 US presidential election, breaking from President Donald Trump and others in his party who have pushed the discredited conspiracy theory.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lindsey-graham-says-hes-1000pe
rcent-confident-russia-meddled-in-2016-us-election-not-ukraine/ar-BBXIwg8?ocid=spartandhp

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!


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A liberal democracy is a form of representative democracy in which elected representatives who hold power are limited by a constitution that emphasizes protecting individual liberties, equality and the rights of minority groups. Among the many liberties that might be protected are freedom of speech and assembly, freedom of religion, the right to private property and privacy as well as equality before the law and due process under the rule of law. Such constitutional rights, also called liberal rights, are guaranteed through various controlled institutions and statutory laws. Additionally, the constitutions of most contemporary liberal democracies prohibits majoritarianism, which is rule by the will of majority, when it harms those in the minority.


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Former Ukraine finance minister:

Russia's interference in the U.S. election was but the latest and most audacious episode in Moscow's ongoing effort to destroy liberal democracy and the Trans-Atlantic partnership, says a top Ukrainian leader. "The information attacks, the propaganda, the cyberattacks. We've lived through all the things they tested first in Ukraine," Natalie Jaresko, the country's former finance minister told David Axelrod on The Axe Files podcast, a joint production of CNN and the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics.

"It's shocking that they would take the risk of doing that in the United States. And now it appears -- I've seen reports -- Germany, France and elsewhere. "

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/natalie-jaresko-axe-files/index
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And Trump is his best ally in this.

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GOP Still Refuses To Protect U.S. From Russian Interference

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Originally posted by THG:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!


Spare me.

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A liberal democracy is a form of representative democracy in which elected representatives who hold power are limited by a constitution that emphasizes protecting individual liberties, equality and the rights of minority groups. Among the many liberties that might be protected are freedom of speech and assembly, freedom of religion, the right to private property and privacy as well as equality before the law and due process under the rule of law. Such constitutional rights, also called liberal rights, are guaranteed through various controlled institutions and statutory laws. Additionally, the constitutions of most contemporary liberal democracies prohibits majoritarianism, which is rule by the will of majority, when it harms those in the minority.


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Do you suppose that Democrat politicians are aware of that and they're just ignoring it?

Because everything that they say and do today are in complete contradiction with that mission statement.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'll let second explain it to you moron. I'm sure he'll be by shortly.

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Originally posted by THG:
I'll let second explain it to you moron. I'm sure he'll be by shortly.

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lol

He's going to explain to me how the definition of Liberal Democracy is not what Democrat voters or politicians actually do?

Good luck with that.

No... He's going to come in here, quote one sentence out of one of my replies, and then go on some completely unrelated tangent like he always does.


I think you had better handle this one yourself, dummy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

He's going to explain to me how the definition of Liberal Democracy is not what Democrat voters or politicians actually do?

Good luck with that.

No... He's going to come in here, quote one sentence out of one of my replies, and then go on some completely unrelated tangent like he always does.


I think you had better handle this one yourself, dummy.

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As we all know, Donald Trump spent many months last year trying to force Ukraine to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden’s work for a Ukrainian energy company called Burisma Holdings. The idea was to imply that (a) Hunter was employed solely to curry favor with Joe Biden, and (b) Joe Biden therefore treated Burisma favorably when he was vice president. There was never any evidence for any of this, but Trump tried and tried to extort Ukrainian officials into insinuating it anyway. This failed, and eventually led to impeachment charges in Congress.

But just because Trump failed didn’t mean that his friends all gave up. By an enormous coincidence, it turns out that Trump’s Russian buddies from the 2016 campaign decided to investigate Burisma:

The Russian spy agency known as the GRU launched a cyber “phishing” campaign against Burisma Holdings to trick unsuspecting employees into giving up their email credentials so the hackers could gain access to their email accounts — once again entangling Moscow in domestic U.S. politics, according to Area 1 Security, a Redwood City, Calif., company.

The operation’s launch coincided with a congressional impeachment inquiry into Trump and whether he abused his office by seeking to press Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky into announcing a probe of Burisma and Hunter Biden — an action that conceivably would aid Trump’s reelection bid.

The New York Times adds this:

The Russian attacks on Burisma appear to be running parallel to an effort by Russian spies in Ukraine to dig up information in the analog world that could embarrass the Bidens, according to an American security official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. The spies, the official said, are trying to penetrate Burisma and working sources in the Ukrainian government in search of emails, financial records and legal documents.

In other words, the Russians are beavering away in all areas to try and find something that might look bad for Joe Biden. Did Trump ask them to do this? He just announced on TV what he’d like to see happen and the Russians took the hint. If they find anything, they’ll launder it through a couple of cutouts and then leak it to some friendly reporters. Will the American press be less credulous about reporting this stuff than they were in 2016? I wouldn’t count on it no matter how often they say they’ve learned their lesson. “But it’s newsworthy,” they’ll say.

More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/01/russia-is-once-again-helping-ou
t-its-buddy-donald-trump/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

He's going to explain to me how the definition of Liberal Democracy is not what Democrat voters or politicians actually do?

Good luck with that.

No... He's going to come in here, quote one sentence out of one of my replies, and then go on some completely unrelated tangent like he always does.


I think you had better handle this one yourself, dummy.

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As we all know, Donald Trump spent many months last year trying to force Ukraine to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden’s work for a Ukrainian energy company called Burisma Holdings. The idea was to imply that (a) Hunter was employed solely to curry favor with Joe Biden, and (b) Joe Biden therefore treated Burisma favorably when he was vice president. There was never any evidence for any of this, but Trump tried and tried to extort Ukrainian officials into insinuating it anyway. This failed, and eventually led to impeachment charges in Congress.

But just because Trump failed didn’t mean that his friends all gave up. By an enormous coincidence, it turns out that Trump’s Russian buddies from the 2016 campaign decided to investigate Burisma:

The Russian spy agency known as the GRU launched a cyber “phishing” campaign against Burisma Holdings to trick unsuspecting employees into giving up their email credentials so the hackers could gain access to their email accounts — once again entangling Moscow in domestic U.S. politics, according to Area 1 Security, a Redwood City, Calif., company.

The operation’s launch coincided with a congressional impeachment inquiry into Trump and whether he abused his office by seeking to press Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky into announcing a probe of Burisma and Hunter Biden — an action that conceivably would aid Trump’s reelection bid.

The New York Times adds this:

The Russian attacks on Burisma appear to be running parallel to an effort by Russian spies in Ukraine to dig up information in the analog world that could embarrass the Bidens, according to an American security official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. The spies, the official said, are trying to penetrate Burisma and working sources in the Ukrainian government in search of emails, financial records and legal documents.

In other words, the Russians are beavering away in all areas to try and find something that might look bad for Joe Biden. Did Trump ask them to do this? He just announced on TV what he’d like to see happen and the Russians took the hint. If they find anything, they’ll launder it through a couple of cutouts and then leak it to some friendly reporters. Will the American press be less credulous about reporting this stuff than they were in 2016? I wouldn’t count on it no matter how often they say they’ve learned their lesson. “But it’s newsworthy,” they’ll say.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Right on cue, I see.


What did I tell you T?

You can smell that turd from a mile away.

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