Act of War Against Iran
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Quote:1kiki, I'm starting to believe you cannot think, little Russian troll:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You're an idiot.
Do you think Bolt-on, Pompeous, the war-hawks in the House and Senate, et al who are running the show would be more moderate under Hillary? Yanno, Hillary-the-pervert who managed to destroy 5 countries as mere Sec of State?
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
When Donald Trump became president, one of his first acts was signing a memorandum on "Rebuilding" U.S. armed forces. That memorandum directed his new Secretary of Defense, retired Gen. James Mattis, to initiate a new Nuclear Posture Review and to ensure that the nuclear deterrent was "ready and appropriately tailored to deter 21st-century threats."
Inside the nuclear establishment, "appropriately tailored" meant a new small nuclear weapon, one deliverable by a ballistic missile rather than from a bomber. The latter, as was gamed in the Global Thunder exercise, would take 11 hours to fly from home base in Missouri to either Iran or North Korea. A missile, on the other hand, could take 30 minutes, and a forward-deployed submarine-launched missile could take just 10-15 minutes.
North Korea's string of long-range missile tests in the first year of the Trump administration accentuated this "hole" in U.S. nuclear capabilities, a senior Air Force officer involved in the nuclear deliberations says. In the most pressing scenario involving the imminent use of weapons of mass destruction, existing missiles were rejected as a credible deterrent threat because their warhead size was thought to be too large to be "usable."
More at www.newsweek.com/trump-iran-new-nuclear-weapon-increases-risk-crisis-n
uclear-1481752
1kiki, Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit says nuclear war is "baloney" because it has not happened at least twice, in front of experimental scientists meticulously recording the data for posterity. Trump would have to use two missiles, one on Iran, one on Korea, before "baloney" becomes scientific proof that Trump is nuts, as measured by Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It never fails: somebody as ignorant as hell tells me they know better than me. When their way fails for them, but my way works for me, the ignoramus never, never in a million years, looks back and realizes they don't know as much as they think they know. They think their failure was "bad luck" and my success was "good luck" and "cheating". When their failures and my successes are repeated, again and again, the ignoramus can't believe I was not cheating or lucky and goes right back to explaining everything by luck and cheating. By the way, if Trump is reelected (he has a 50% chance and nothing can change the coin flip randomness of elections) that is good for me, bad for you, despite you wanting him to stay another term.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance
-in-the-united-states.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You can pretend that Issac wasn't talking about you if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Whatever.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Dude. You claim that you're rich all the time, yet it is apparent how much you hate yourself and you hate your life.
Money isn't everything, and assuming you're not lying about it (which you clearly are), your little character you've made for yourself is living proof of that.
You are the envy of no one. Get a hobby.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complicit Trump was on this murder of Soleimani. Scott Ritter (a former Marine intelligence officer and weapons inspector under Hans Blix, and who gave us the straight dope on how thorough the inspections were, and told us why there were NO WMD in Iraq) believes that this was at Trump's behest. According to him, the CIA had set up an Iran Mission Center, which means that Iran was raised to a level of National Security, giving the chief of that center dibs on satellite positioning, sigint etc. In looking this up, I found this
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In 2017, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) created a special unit — the Iran Mission Center — to focus attention on the U.S. plans against Iran. The initiative for this unit came from CIA director John Brennan, who left his post as the Trump administration came into office. Brennan believed that the CIA needed to focus attention on what the United States sees as problem areas — North Korea and Iran, for instance. This predated the Trump administration.
Brennan’s successor — Mike Pompeo, who was CIA director for just over a year (until he was appointed U.S. Secretary of State) — continued this policy. The CIA’s Iran-related activity had been conducted in the Iran Operations Division (Persia House). This was a section with Iran specialists who built up knowledge about political and economic developments inside Iran and in the Iranian diaspora.
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It bothered the hawks in Washington — as one official told me — that Persia House was filled with Iran specialists who had no special focus on regime change in Iran. Some of them, due to their long concentration on Iran, had developed sensitivity to the country. Trump’s people wanted a much more focused and belligerent group that would provide the kind of intelligence that tickled the fancy of his National Security Adviser John Bolton.
To head the Iran Mission Center, the CIA appointed Michael D’Andrea. D’Andrea was central to the post-9/11 interrogation program, and he ran the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center. Assassinations and torture were central to his approach.
It was D’Andrea who expanded the CIA’s drone strike program, in particular the signature strike. The signature strike is a particularly controversial instrument. The CIA was given the allowance to kill anyone who fit a certain profile — a man of a certain age, for instance, with a phone that had been used to call someone on a list. The dark arts of the CIA are precisely those of D’Andrea.
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/25/have-you-heard-of-the-cias-iran-missi
on-center_partner/
According to Scott Ritter, it is his BELIEF that Trump is running the Cheney playbook: pester the CIA for intel that would provide an excuse for what you're going to do anyway. But there are two things that counter that scenario
1) If Trump had authored the drone murder, would he have looked so stricken and ill-at-ease during his first press conference afterwards?
2) More importantly, would he have negotiated an off-ramp with the Iranians (thru the Swiss Embassy) requesting a "proprortionate" response and vowing no retaliation if they (the Iranians) limited their response?
Listening to the mechanics of that negotiation brings up a couple of questions that so far haven't been explicitly answered. What was the timing of the drone murder that killed Soleimani? Was it ordered when Trump as ambushed at Mar A Lago by a gaggle of neocons and deep staters? And when did the negotiations begin? When Trump returned to the WH?
Because SOMEone is Trump's friend. SOMEone provided Trump not only with a butt-puckering view of the consequences that had been potentially unleashed but also with a communications pathway and contacts to reversing the incident, as much as possible. That SOMEone ... or several someones ... aren't in the CIA, the State Department, the NSC, or the neocon Senate. They're not Pompeo, Esper, Haspel, Graham,
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Quote:I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. Trump now has that option and it makes the military worried that he may foolishly use it in a fit of pique to murder an Iranian big-shot:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complocot Trump was on this mirdere of Soleimani.
In February 2018, the Trump administration concluded its own Nuclear Posture Review. The Review formally called for a new low-yield warhead to be deployed on Navy Trident II submarine-launched missiles. Though articulated as a counter to Russia, government and non-government officials today agree that the new W76-2 warhead was all along also intended to fill the niche of providing a usable and prompt weapon to counter imminent North Korean or Iranian attacks, either with WMD or long-range missiles.
In September, according to officials who spoke on background because no announcement has been made, the first W76-2 warheads were delivered to the Navy. That W76-2 is thought to have an explosive yield of between 5-6 kilotons (5-6 thousand tons) – about one-third the size of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Kristensen estimates that some 50 of these small, "prompt" warheads will be deployed on Trident submarines, and that two of the 24 missiles aboard each of 12 submarines will be so armed.
If there was any conceivable American nuclear strike on Iran, sources agree, it would come from the new low-yield Trident submarine-based system.
On the philosophical question of using nuclear weapons, all six Air Force and STRATCOM sources I spoke to expressed concern that the very existence of nuclear options, with this president, complicated their otherwise clear conviction that there was no way nuclear weapons could be used against Iran.
But as the current nuclear war plans are written, the use of such a weapon could be justified, almost Hiroshima-like, as a shocking thunderclap to forestall a wider and theoretically more destructive all-out war.
"It is a capability that the United States did not have a year ago," the officer says, built precisely to be used, even to be used preemptively.
More at www.newsweek.com/trump-iran-new-nuclear-weapon-increases-risk-crisis-n
uclear-1481752
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump added to the controversy over his administration’s justification for the killing of an Iranian general, saying Monday that “it doesn’t really matter” whether it was in response to an imminent threat to the United States.
In a tweet, Trump criticized Democrats for trying to determine whether Iranian attacks the administration has said were planned by Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani against U.S. targets were imminent.
The Trump administration’s stated justification for ordering the U.S. drone strike that killed Soleimani in Baghdad on Jan. 3 was he planned imminent attacks on Americans and had to be stopped.
More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/01/13/trump-says-it-doesnt-reall
y-matter-if-iranian-general-posed-an-imminent-threat/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Salon says one thing and Newsweek says another. Newsweek went long with the WMD in Iraq and Russiagate hoax and refuses to cover the story that OPCW top officials falsified its report on Douma chemical attack, which apparently never happened,
SIGNY:
So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complicit Trump was on this murder of Soleimani.
SECOND: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. Trump now has that option and it makes the military worried that he may foolishly use it in a fit of pique to murder an Iranian big-shot
Quote:https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/a-newsweek-reporter-r
A Newsweek Reporter Resigns, a Counter-Narrative Won’t Die
Is the media suppressing evidence that the 2018 chemical 'attack' in Syria didn't happen the way officials said it did?
esigns-a-counter-narrative-wont-die/
Why should I believe Newsweek?
I think my interpretation fits events and timeline a lot better.
BTW, sorry for the typos.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:The interpretation that fits best is that Trump wanted nukes to assassinate Kim Jong-un (remember "Fire and Fury"? There are youtube videos of Trump saying he planned on killing Kim) and the Pentagon obliged Trump by modifying existing warheads to make the W76-2. Trump might use the W76-2 on Iran's Ayatollah to "preempt" a war with Iran. That won't be a "preemption". It will be a war that starts by assassinating the Iranian Supreme Leader, completely bypassing Congress because Trump is "worried" or "concerned" that Democrats will not vote for war, maybe the Democrats even warn the Ayatollah, which would mean Trump accuses the Democrats, all of them, of "treason" and helping the enemy.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why should I believe Newsweek?
I think my interpretation fits events and timeline a lot better.
BTW, sorry for the typos.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Influential Iraqi cleric Sadr calls for anti-U.S. demonstrations
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/influential-iraqi-cleric-sadr-cal
ls-for-anti-us-demonstrations/ar-BBYWUcE?ocid=spartandhp
Second, you know as well as anybody sig is a Russian troll. All she is doing here is trying to confuse.
T 
Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
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Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Once again, Signoramus is only acting interested - more agitation smoke.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Once again, Signoramus is only acting interested - more agitation smoke.
Yes, agreed.
T
Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
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