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Act of War Against Iran

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Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It sucks anytime people are going to LOSE their lives over anything that powerful people do.

There is zero different going on here than what we've been doing in the middle east since the 50's.

There's not going to be any war. Or at least, any major conflict. It will just be more of the same bullshit pseudo-wars we've been living with since GWB was president. Iran isn't stupid... unless you believe that all of the people in power there are true believers in the diseased Muslim ideology and that they're all suicidal.


Seriously man... For your own good, I suggest you find a hobby or two to take your mind off of things like this that are completely out of your control. If the worst case happens and this is the end of the world than at least you weren't wigged out in your last days and you can go doing something that you enjoy.



In the mean time, wag the dog or not, this certainly seems to have swept the sham impeachment under the rug, hasn't it?

Pelosi is breathing a sigh of relief right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

All you are really telling us is that an Iranian cannot kill Trump on his way to Air Force One, while Trump can kill at his own pleasure an Iranian on his way to the airport in Iraq. Even Trump wouldn't be able to kill at will if the Pentagon's budget was reduced to be inline with the rest of the world's spending.
"List of countries by military expenditures"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditur
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The Pentagon was shocked at what Trump does with the military budget:
"Pentagon Officials Reportedly “Stunned” by Trump’s Decision to Kill Soleimani"
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/pentagon-officials-reporte
dly-stunned-trump-kill-soleimani.html

Nobody at the Pentagon said Trump is stupid/unwise, but they know he is.

Even Trump vaguely understands that America spends far too much on the military, although he's a dummy:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted
The United States just spent Two Trillion Dollars on Military Equipment. We are the biggest and by far the BEST in the World! If Iran attacks an American Base, or any American, we will be sending some of that brand new beautiful equipment their way...and without hesitation!
9:11 PM - 4 Jan 2020
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213689342272659456

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 6, 2020 12:28 AM

Umm, this was no Benghazi.

Instead of ignoring our people in harm's way for 13 hours and packing for a fundraising dinner in Vegas, as Obama did, Trump sent 100 Marines to support and guard the embassy, driving the " protestors ", aka TERRORISTS away. No U.S. causalities. Zero.

And our response?

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THG
Tuesday, January 7, 2020 3:17 AM

Poll: 43 percent approve of Trump strike on Soleimani

About 4 in 10 Americans approve of President Trump's decision to order the airstrike that killed a top Iranian military commander.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-43-percent-approve-of-tru
mp-strike-on-soleimani/ar-BBYFSPh?ocid=spartanntp


T

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Tuesday, January 7, 2020 3:51 AM

I'm not one of the 4 in 10. I don't approve of it.

I just don't care. It's exactly the same thing we've been doing for 20 years now, and nobody has given two shits about it for two decades.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Friday, January 10, 2020 4:38 PM

Here's a conspiracy theory for all you conspiracists. Trump assassinates an Iranian General. Iran responds by firing rockets at American military bases in Iraq.

While awaiting Trumps response to that a Ukrainian airliner takes off within Iran. A nervous Iranian military fires at the plane shooting it down killing 179 people thinking it's a missile their radar is tracking.

If this is the case, I blame Trump and his wag the dog bullshit.

T


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Friday, January 10, 2020 5:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not one of the 4 in 10. I don't approve of it.

I just don't care. It's exactly the same thing we've been doing for 20 years now, and nobody has given two shits about it for two decades.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is NOT the same. On Thursday, Trump himself claimed that the Iranians were “looking to blow up our embassy” in Baghdad, but cited no facts to back up the assertion.

Following classified briefings for members of Congress on Wednesday, numerous lawmakers from both parties said that the administration did NOT present direct evidence of an imminent threat, even when they repeatedly asked officials to do so.

“If the members of our armed services have the courage to go and fight and die in these wars, as Congress we ought to have the courage to vote for them or against them,” said Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., “I support the president, killing Suleimani was the right decision. But engaging in another forever war with the Middle East would be the wrong decision, and that’s why I’m voting for this resolution.”

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/09/house-votes-to-stop-trump-from-att
acking-iran
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 10, 2020 5:48 PM

What’s the strategy?

If Trump can’t articulate his Iran policy, then Congress needs to assert its authority.

In a week that began with a deadly U.S. drone strike on an Iranian military leader and ended with President Donald Trump assuring the nation that a retaliatory Iranian missile launch against U.S. troops was actually a sign of peaceful resolution, Americans can be forgiven for feeling whiplashed.

How did we so quickly go from the standard “tensions in the Middle East” status quo to the brink of war and back to “all is well”? Is it? And what happens now?

The good news is that Iran chose to hurl 22 missiles at two Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops where no people were killed and no real property damage was done and that Trump chose to accept that as a fitting end to the current hostilities.

“Iran appears to be standing down, which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world,” Trump said in a White House address to the nation Wednesday.

Peace in our time.

By Thursday, however, a leader of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was threatening “harsher revenge soon” against the United States as even some of the president’s Republican allies in the Senate were upset by the lack of information and what Sen. Mike Lee described as instructions to members of Congress not to question military decisions.

“What I found so distressing about that briefing was that one of the messages we received from the briefers was, ‘Do not debate. Do not discuss the issue of the appropriateness of further military intervention against Iran. And then if you do, you’ll be emboldening Iran.’ ”

Lee called an hourlong closed-door meeting Wednesday with administration officials, “the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issue.”

The briefing was held as the House prepared to vote Thursday on a resolution that would force Trump to end hostilities against Iran unless he gets specific authorization from Congress.

Lee said he is now open to supporting such a resolution based on the lack of information from White House and military officials.

“They were asked repeatedly, what, if anything, would trigger the need for the administration to come back to Congress for a declaration of war or an authorization for the use of military force,” Lee said. “At one point, I believe one of the briefers said something like, ‘I’m sure we can think of something.’ But they struggled to identify anything.”

The Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war, but presidents, invoking their role as commander in chief, have historically launched and escalated wars, including in Korea and Vietnam, without the approval of Congress. Presidents from both parties have skirted the wishes of Congress, which has at times willingly ceded its authority to the executive branch to avoid tough votes and decisions. A resolution would be largely symbolic, but debate could bring some much-needed transparency and clarity to the issue.

Lee’s complaints track broader concerns about Trump’s order last week to kill Tehran’s top military commander, Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, in an overnight U.S. drone strike near Baghdad’s international airport.

While everyone agrees that Soleimani was responsible for hundreds of American and Iraqi deaths and destabilizing attacks against the United States and its interests in the Middle East, the administration has offered confusing and contradicting reasons for the urgency of the strike.

The administration also has been fuzzy on how it planned to deal with the aftermath and the possibility that U.S. forces would again be pulled into a war in the region.

In his statement Wednesday, the president said he would ask that “NATO become much more involved in the Middle East process” even though he has belittled the organization as ineffective and alienated many of the leaders in those nations who continue to support the 2015 agreement to lift sanctions on Iran in exchange for Iran accepting restrictions on its nuclear program.

Trump has instead pushed a “maximum pr

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Friday, January 10, 2020 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by second:

No wonder we have whiplash.



Hyperbole of the day!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:23 AM

Evidence That Plane Was Shot Down in Iran May Upset U.S.-Canada Relations

If it is determined that it was an Iranian missile, Mr. Trudeau will have to grapple with the question of whether the United States, Canada’s most important ally, played a role in provoking the events that ultimately resulted in the loss of Canadians’ lives.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/evidence-that-plane-was-shot-down
-in-iran-may-upset-us-canada-relations/ar-BBYObjG?ocid=spartandhp


They say it may have been a Russian made missile. If it was, was it a Russian that fired it?

tick tock

T


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THG
Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:37 AM

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