Act of War Against Iran
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Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate. This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. Trump is so cynical he wouldn’t even recognize that making foreign policy decisions influenced by impeachment is the kind of thing he shouldn’t say out loud. Of course, using his foreign policy authority for domestic political gain is the offense Trump is being impeached for. It would be characteristically Trumpian to compound the offense as part of his efforts to avoid accountability for it.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-
pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html
It’s possible Trump didn’t mean what he said, or that the associates who heard his comments misread them. But the straightforward read of this is that Trump has confessed to a grave and even impeachable abuse of his power as commander-in-chief.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Quote:No prosecutor would get a murder conviction using Carl Sagan's rules. Here is a case that took 5 years to come to trial and the only witness was one of the victims surviving being shot in the head. Sagan's rules require 2 victims to survive being shot IN THE HEAD:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63460
Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-who-killed-6-members-ex-wife-s-family
-gets-n1065366
In the words of the prosecutor, Trump's "issue is not his mental illness, his issue is his personality," describing him as a "manipulative, selfish, narcissistic, blame-shifting monster."
Occam's razor, as mentioned by Carl Sagan, for Trump is that he will always be NOT GUILTY in the eyes of a Trump voter. Once again, Sagan's rules make a conviction impossible.
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How MANY baloney (bullshit) rules do your posts violate?
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Quote:1kiki, that Carl Sagan checklist you keep quoting is for deciding larger questions, such as do you have an immortal soul living on after your death? It is not for triviality, like accusing your political enemies of not being “logical” in the sense that Mr Spock from Star Trek is always going on about.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How MANY baloney (bullshit) rules do your posts violate?
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
1kiki, you need to check out Carl Sagan’s Chapter 12, The Fine Art Of Baloney Detection, from The Demon-Haunted World
www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469
Here is a page:
My parents died years ago. I was very close to them. I still miss them terribly. I know I always will. I long to believe that their essence, their personalities, what I loved so much about them, are— really and truly—still in existence somewhere. I wouldn’t ask very much, just five or ten minutes a year, say, to tell them about their grandchildren, to catch them up on the latest news, to remind them that I love them. There’s a part of me —no matter how childish it sounds—that wonders how they are. “Is everything all right?” I want to ask. The last words I found myself saying to my father, at the moment of his death, were “Take care.”
Sometimes I dream that I’m talking to my parents, and suddenly— still immersed in the dreamwork—I’m seized by the overpowering realization that they didn’t really die, that it's all been some kind of horrible mistake. Why, here they are, alive and well, my father making wry jokes, my mother earnestly advising me to wear a muffler because the weather is chilly. When I wake up I go through an abbreviated process of mourning all over again. Plainly, there’s something within me that’s ready to believe in life after death. And it’s not the least bit interested in whether there’s any sober evidence for it.
So I don’t guffaw at the woman who visits her husband’s grave and chats him up every now and then, maybe on the anniversary of his death. It’s not hard to understand. And if I have difficulties with the ontological status of who she’s talking to, that’s all right. That’s not what this is about. This is about humans being human. More than a third of American adults believe that on some level they’ve made contact with the dead. The number seems to have jumped by 15 percent between 1977 and 1988. A quarter of Americans believe in reincarnation.
But that doesn’t mean I’d be willing to accept the pretensions of a “medium,” who claims to channel the spirits of the dear departed, when I’m aware the practice is rife with fraud. I know how much I want to believe that my parents have just abandoned the husks of their . . .
1kiki, you obviously don’t understand the context for using Carl Sagan’s tools for thinking.
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I'm a big Sagan fan SECOND. I just don't get why comrade kiki posted then reposted what she posted regarding him here. Except to say she is a troll. She is desperate to deflect away from the topic. She is desperate not to look like the moron she is.
Looks like Iranian proxies fired more rockets at some American bases in Iraq again today.
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They should probably stop doing that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I agree that top Trump administration officials should stop declining to provide evidence that Soleimani would attack 4 US embassies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They should probably stop doing that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Days after President Donald Trump claimed the US killed Iran's top military general because he was targeting four American embassies, two of the President's top national security officials are declining to provide evidence of the intelligence used to justify the US drone strike. In interviews that aired Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and national security adviser Robert O'Brien both did not cite specific intelligence information when pressed by their interviewers.
www.cnn.com/2020/01/12/politics/robert-obrien-mark-esper-soleimani-emb
assy-attack-cnntv/index.html
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound like you're really scared, buddy.
You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.
Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expuls
ion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp
Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you?
It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up.
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U.S. Warns Iraq It Risks Losing Access to Key Bank Account If Troops Told to Leave
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-warns-iraq-it-risks-losing-acc
ess-to-key-bank-account-if-troops-told-to-leave/ar-BBYRkYd?ocid=spartanntp
Looks like Trump is resorting to blackmail.
T
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Amash: Trump claim about US embassy threats 'seems to be totally made up'
Rep. Justin Amash (Mich.), an Independent who left the Republican Party last year, said Sunday that President Trump's claim that Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani was plotting attacks against four U.S. embassies "seems to be totally made up."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/amash-trump-claim-about-us-emb
assy-threats-seems-to-be-totally-made-up/ar-BBYSLLP?ocid=spartandhp
President Trump has made 15,413 false or misleading claims over 1,055 days
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has
-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/
Is anyone surprised?
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