Countdown Clock, Trumps Removal 'Starts'
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The promise and perils of a secret impeachment vote in the Senate
A trial in the US Senate, whatever evidence is presented, will end with Donald Trump’s acquittal. Republican majority leader Mitch McConnell has promised it. But if the vote were conducted in secret, 30 or more Republican senators would find the president’s dealings with Ukraine violated the Constitution. Or so said former Arizona senator Jeff Flake in September.
Republicans who believe Trump acted improperly should be willing to say so, even if it means falling out with the in-crowd. However, it seems there are 30 senators who do not have the courage of their convictions. Ever since, academics and pundits have been discussing the merits and drawbacks of a secret vote, while laying out the logistical path for approving cloaked ballots.
Senators could approve a secret impeachment vote if they wanted to. Impeachment trial rules are up to the senators and must pass by a simple majority — 51 out of 100 members.
Republicans are now in the majority and have 53 votes. Still, it wouldn’t take much GOP resistance to force McConnell to cede to a secret ballot. If just three Republicans premised their approval of the rest of the rules on a cloaked vote, they could make it happen.
If the only way senators can fulfill their constitutional duty to objectively judge the evidence and decide on guilt or acquittal is under the cloak of secrecy, it’s fair to ask whether they are up to the task of governance. Do they have the moral fiber to lead? Or, as one Twitter user crudely put it in response to talk of a mystery posse of Republican resistors, “profiles in pisspants.”
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A secret vote second means Trump goes. The man has nothing but enemies in the senate.
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Originally posted by second:
The promise and perils of a secret impeachment vote in the Senate
A trial in the US Senate, whatever evidence is presented, will end with Donald Trump’s acquittal. Republican majority leader Mitch McConnell has promised it. But if the vote were conducted in secret, 30 or more Republican senators would find the president’s dealings with Ukraine violated the Constitution. Or so said former Arizona senator Jeff Flake in September.
Republicans who believe Trump acted improperly should be willing to say so, even if it means falling out with the in-crowd. However, it seems there are 30 senators who do not have the courage of their convictions. Ever since, academics and pundits have been discussing the merits and drawbacks of a secret vote, while laying out the logistical path for approving cloaked ballots.
Senators could approve a secret impeachment vote if they wanted to. Impeachment trial rules are up to the senators and must pass by a simple majority — 51 out of 100 members.
Republicans are now in the majority and have 53 votes. Still, it wouldn’t take much GOP resistance to force McConnell to cede to a secret ballot. If just three Republicans premised their approval of the rest of the rules on a cloaked vote, they could make it happen.
If the only way senators can fulfill their constitutional duty to objectively judge the evidence and decide on guilt or acquittal is under the cloak of secrecy, it’s fair to ask whether they are up to the task of governance. Do they have the moral fiber to lead? Or, as one Twitter user crudely put it in response to talk of a mystery posse of Republican resistors, “profiles in pisspants.”
More at https://qz.com/1774850/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Article I, Section 5 has something to say about that...
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Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.
Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal….
You would need 81 Senators to approve of a secret ballot. Not 51.
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Quote:The wiser Senators know that Trump in a second term could do serious, yet temporary, damage to the GOP as did Bush in his second term, which was followed by a very temporary Senate landslide for Democrats. In 2006, the Democrats gained 5 seats in the Senate. In 2008, Dems gained 8 seats. But in 2010, the Dems lost 6 seats. 2014 Dems lost 9. The wiser Senators know its better to be rid of idiots like Bush, who crashed the economy. They know Trump is another idiot, too, despite his non-stop bragging about his ability to manage the economy when it is really the top 0.1% who are doing all the real thinking.
Originally posted by THG:
A secret vote second means Trump goes. The man has nothing but enemies in the senate.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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GOP Senator 'Disturbed' Mitch McConnell Coordinating Impeachment Trial with Trump, Demands 'Fair Process'
Murkowski, who has previously been critical of the partisan nature of the House impeachment inquiry, is now taking on McConnell and South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham for both claiming there would be "total coordination" between the U.S. Senate and President Donald Trump over his own impeachment trial.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senator-disturbed-mitch-mc
connell-coordinating-impeachment-trial-with-trump-demands-fair-process/ar-BBYkPJW?ocid=spartandhp
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Christianity Today's split with Trump highlights deeper issue in white evangelical America
"One of the major factors is that the church is too tied up in right-wing politics,"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/christianity-todays-split-with
-trump-highlights-deeper-issue-in-white-evangelical-america/ar-BBYrbIu?ocid=spartanntp
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The promise and perils of a secret impeachment vote in the Senate
A trial in the US Senate, whatever evidence is presented, will end with Donald Trump’s acquittal. Republican majority leader Mitch McConnell has promised it. But if the vote were conducted in secret, 30 or more Republican senators would find the president’s dealings with Ukraine violated the Constitution. Or so said former Arizona senator Jeff Flake in September.
Republicans who believe Trump acted improperly should be willing to say so, even if it means falling out with the in-crowd. However, it seems there are 30 senators who do not have the courage of their convictions. Ever since, academics and pundits have been discussing the merits and drawbacks of a secret vote, while laying out the logistical path for approving cloaked ballots.
Senators could approve a secret impeachment vote if they wanted to. Impeachment trial rules are up to the senators and must pass by a simple majority — 51 out of 100 members.
Republicans are now in the majority and have 53 votes. Still, it wouldn’t take much GOP resistance to force McConnell to cede to a secret ballot. If just three Republicans premised their approval of the rest of the rules on a cloaked vote, they could make it happen.
If the only way senators can fulfill their constitutional duty to objectively judge the evidence and decide on guilt or acquittal is under the cloak of secrecy, it’s fair to ask whether they are up to the task of governance. Do they have the moral fiber to lead? Or, as one Twitter user crudely put it in response to talk of a mystery posse of Republican resistors, “profiles in pisspants.”
More at https://qz.com/1774850/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Article I, Section 5 has something to say about that...
Quote:
Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.
Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal….
You would need 81 Senators to approve of a secret ballot. Not 51.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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