Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You don't "get it": Fiona Hill’s story from yesterday of Russian disinformation sounds very familiar because the Russians have been quietly seeding political scandals in the West for decades. Back in 1962, the Russians were running disinformation in Germany. Today, the U.S.A.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah... Russia. Now I get it.
Still don't care. Trump 2020. MAGA bitches.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Germans did not fully understand what was happening until 1987, when a KGB officer wrote a book about it. Nowadays, there is no excuse, other than being lazy and mentally slow, not to understand.
https://slate.com/technology/2019/11/fiona-hill-russia-disinformation-
testimony-history.html
I look forward to Trump's second term, when the House of Representatives digs deeper and deeper into Trump's tax cheating. He will be visiting Walter Reed Medical Center twice a month for high blood pressure and bleeding from the rectum because of all his screaming about the Democrats taking away his wealth accumulated from tax cheating.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Oh. Now I get it.
Still don't care. Trump 2020. MAGA bitches.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Lev Parnas, an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, would tell Congress that the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee met with an ex-Ukraine official to try to get information on Joe Biden, his lawyer says.
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In this preview clip from '16 and President, Senator Lindsey Graham gets emotional when discussing his longtime friend Vice President Joe Biden.
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Hey Kiki,
I don't remember what thread I archived that website was in, so I'll just post an article about it from the NY Post here.
https://nypost.com/2019/11/20/when-the-villain-is-obama-not-trump-news
-suddenly-becomes-not-worth-reporting/
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We all know who the president was in 2015. It wasn’t evil, child-caging monster President Trump. It was that nice, compassionate, child-caging monster President Barack Obama.
Zap. The story made Obama look bad. Hence the story was removed. Not updated or corrected, removed.
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Every time you read something from AFP and Reuters (and CNN and the Washington Post), you should be thinking not “This is fake news” but: “What’s the agenda?” To paraphrase Chuck Schumer’s infamous, and instructive, comment on the CIA, news outlets have six ways from Sunday of getting you to think what they want you to think, none of which involve making up stuff.
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I fund this on Moon of Alabama which I've edit for brevity and emphasis
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Impeachment Circus - Today's Bombshell Is Another Dud
The impeachment circus continued today with a refreshingly candid opening statement from Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the EU. Sondland was involved in diplomatic efforts in Ukraine. Instead of stonewalling Sondland just let it all out:
Gordon D. Sondland testified that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo signed off on the pressure campaign, and that he told Vice President Mike Pence about an apparent link between military aid for Ukraine and investigations of Democrats. Mr. Sondland confirmed there was a “clear quid pro quo” for a White House meeting between President Trump and Ukraine’s president. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/politics/impeachment-hearings.ht
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The anti-Trump media see this as another "bombshell" that will hurt him.
But it is more likely that Sondland's testimony will help President Trump and those involved on his side.
The President of the United States thought it to be in the interest of the United States to press Ukraine's government into publicly announcing investigations into two issues:
* The successful meddling by Ukrainian officials in the 2016 U.S. election.
* The evident intervention by then Vice President Biden into Ukrainian politics to the benefit of the owner of a company that paid his son more than $50,000 per month.
Sondland and other U.S. officials were negotiating with the Ukrainians about these demands. There were two potential points that they could use to pressure the Ukrainians into announcing investigations:
* The Ukrainian request for a visit by President Zelensky to the White House.
* The Ukrainian desire to receive military aid that Congress had allocated for that purpose.
It is not clear at all that Trump wanted those issues to be used to pressure Ukraine. Trump never told Sondland that these issues were connected:
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate - 15:58 UTC · Nov 20, 2019:
Sondland's testimony is not as damning as it's being portrayed. He says Trump never told him that money for US weapons ("security assistance") was conditioned on investigations. Sondland says that such a condition is what he came to believe based on his own inference.
His interpretation may well be correct (I'd bet it was). But his own interpretation is not direct evidence -- it's an interpretation. Given he's the star witness who spoke to Trump -- & he says Trump never even mentioned "security assistance" -- it's actually an evidentiary hole.
Sondland: "I've never heard from Trump that the aid was conditioned on the investigations." Also says Trump never mentioned “security assistance.” This is the star witness who spoke to Trump, & who relayed conditions to Ukraine — which he now says was based on his interpretation.
Sondland: “President Trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the meetings. The only thing we got directly from Guiliani was that the Burisma and 2016 elections were conditioned on the White House meeting. The aid was my own personal, you know, guess.”
The negotiators, including Sondland, presumed that the demands and pressure points were linked. But Trump had never said so.
The negotiations around the Ukraine issues were going slow. It was not clear to the negotiators what Trump actually wanted. Sondland said that at one point he called up Trump and asked an open questions: "What do you want from Ukraine?".
According to Sondland Trump responded: "I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zelensky to do the right thing."
Trump is a crook. It is fair to presume that he wanted his aides to use all potential pressure points to deliver the desired results from the Ukrainians. But Trump is also a smart enough crook to never say that.
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I've been noticing for a while now that Trump is a wily guy. Part of his negotiating style is never letting the other guy - or his underlings- know his exact bottom line.
Even Trump doesn't know his exact bottom line. Trump has been showing signs of early dementia for a few years now. Listen to his most recent 45 minute rant on Fox and Friends - it's all over the place. The giant sharpie notes from a recent outdoor presser are a giveaway as well. Being prone to such outlandish conspiracies - Ukraine meddled in 2016 and has the DNC server - even more signs. It should be clear to even the most honest skeptic (honesty being a key component), that his brain is scrambled or on heavy meds.
Read the transcript = Javelins for Biden.
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Yeah, yeah ... whatever.
If Trump was really falling apart, don't you think the deep state would have played that card dozens of times over ... held hearings about it already?
In thinking about this, it seems that while the deep state has had a hard time entrapping Trump, Hillary's shtick was destroying or hiding evidence. Not just the 33,000 emails that she bleach-bitted ...Like, with a cloth?... but also the Whitewater boxed evidence that mysteriously disappeared the same time that Vince Foster committed "suicide" and then mysteriously reappeared after the investigation was over. Obama's shtick was just "lie and hide everything" with the cooperation of the deep state. NONE of these people are clean.
And if you're voting for President because you think someone is pure, boy have YOU got growing-up to do! The reality is that the more expensive it is to run for office, the more likely it is that Dem Repub candidates will owe some very wealthy people SOMEthing.
Also, don't vote for Prez on a domestic agenda. The Prez really doesn't control that, that's Congress. The purview of the Prez is foreign policy and military matters. yanno, wake up and smell the coffee sometime.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, yeah ... whatever.
If Trump was really falling apart, don't you think the deep state would have played that card dozens of times over ... held hearings about it already?
In thinking about this, it seems that while the deep state has had a hard time entrapping Trump, Hillary's shtick was destroying or hiding evidence. Not just the 33,000 emails that she bleach-bitted ...Like, with a cloth?... but also the Whitewater boxed evidence that mysteriously disappeared the same time that Vince Foster committed "suicide" and then mysteriously reappeared after the investigation was over. Obama's shtick was just "lie and hide everything" with the cooperation of the deep state. NONE of these people are clean.
And if you're voting for President because you think someone is pure, boy have YOU got growing-up to do! The reality is that the more expensive it is to run for office, the more likely it is that Dem Repub candidates will owe some very wealthy people SOMEthing.
Also, don't vote for Prez on a domestic agenda. The Prez really doesn't control that, that's Congress. The purview of the Prez is foreign policy and military matters. yanno, wake up and smell the coffee sometime.
"In thinking about this," yeah, right. You're on auto response, no thinking needed on your part.
Hillary, Deep State, Emails, Bleach bit, Vince Foster, Obama... you just type out the greatest hits.
Meanwhile, Trump doesn't need the Deep State boogey men to get him into trouble. He does it all by himself.
Read the transcript. Extortion: Javelins for phony dirt on Biden. Gods, that's probably the least of it! Don't you want to know what other phone conversations have been shunted over to that super secret server?
"Hiya, Vlad! How's it hangin'? Ukraine did what? Really?!? I'll get Rudy on it, pronto."
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