Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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1) The closed door testimonies are dress rehearsals that the democrats are running before they trot out their dog and pony show. This is especially apparent in the smooth, well-rehearsed testimony of the witnesses when answering the democrats' questions, and the stumbling the witnesses sometimes display when getting unanticipated republican questions.
2) It's quite obvious that the republicans have had zero opportunity to either call witnesses of their own, or to elicit testimony to their own lines of inquiry.
3) Apparently there are only *3* witnesses in this whole parade who heard the actual call. Since by now I've already heard 2, unless someone new and different blows this process out of the water, there's no 'there' there.
4) Every single one of the witnesses, and many of the democrats, admonish that Trump's request of Zelensky was inappropriate because a government shouldn't pursue politically motivated investigations. Always said without a trace of irony or self-recognition.
Quote:Without getting into the strategy of all this - I'm going to continue on some more.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump already manipulated them into putting all of this on the fast track a year before the election occurred.
He's going to force them to either cancel the whole thing or to put it to the Senate where it will be struck down immediately, long before Trump even debates somebody one on one for the first time. I'm hoping the Senate doesn't do that though. I want them to drag it out for the next year, all the way up until the election. Republicans will be able to get all of their own witnesses at that point and the ball will be in their court.
Trump's already said that he wants to testify. lol
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I've listened almost entirely now to 2 additional 'witnesses' - Volker (I was out of the loop) and Morrison (I was concerned about optics). Morrison was another witness who heard the phone call directly, and he was concerned about the optics of the call, and its POLITICAL repercussions. He testified he had no serious misgivings about its legality. If he's indeed the third and final earwitness to the call, once again, there appears to be no 'there' there. Volker said that he thought a statement by Ukraine that it was investigating corruption, specifically Burisma and Biden, would have been helpful to allaying Trump's fears of Ukraine corruption. (In the testimony, Ukraine was referred to more than once by more than one person as the most corrupt country on the planet.)
EVERY SINGLE witness so far has said that Ukraine is 'vital' to US national security regarding RUSSIA, though they've been extremely short on the specifics. Volker I think summed it up best in all its idiocy when he said "The United States aids Ukraine and her people, so they can fight Russia over there and we don't have to fight Russia here." Do you think the Russians are going to be marching across the Bering Strait, Mr Volker? Exactly what are you imagining?
The OTHER thing I got out of EVERY SINGLE WITNESS is that they could be reading a script from the Cold War. (And that many of them have extreme personal and family antipathies to Russia.) Russia is THE big bad enemy trying to take over the world. And they all seem to be reading from the same script when it comes to POLICY - there's an interagency harmonization process to make sure everyone's going in the same direction. But that set of dictats they refer to is - as they put it - well-established ... years in the past. Nobody seems to have given a thought to the idea that Trump's policy might not be THEIR preferred, accustomed policy. No wonder they've been acting like a fifth column when it comes to Trump's policies.
And finally - NO ONE YET has testified that they heard Trump say I want this investigation or ... whatever. The WH meeting doesn't happen. The military funds don'
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Those here who profess Trumps innocense are constantly doing so by posting bullshit. They are spouting old claims put forth by republicans that have been completely debunked. Stupid, they are just stupid.
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Originally posted by THG:
Those here who profess Trumps innocense are constantly doing so by posting bullshit. They are spouting old claims put forth by republicans that have been completely debunked. Stupid, they are just stupid.
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Dude... seriously. Don't make me start pointing out all of your spelling errors again. You were doing so well before the last few days.
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Quote:Evolution of a Trump scandal
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Where's the beef?
It never happened.
Okay, it might have happened.
Of course it happened, so what?
It happened, but it wasn't wrong.
It happened and was wrong, but it wasn't impeachable.
It's impeachable, but I don't care.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by THG:
Those here who profess Trumps innocense are constantly doing so by posting bullshit. They are spouting old claims put forth by republicans that have been completely debunked. Stupid, they are just stupid.
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Dude... seriously. Don't make me start pointing out all of your spelling errors again. You were doing so well before the last few days.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Let's do it. For instance, you have double spaces beginning both your sentences. Those are grammatical errors. Of course you have to quote this post to see that the site automatically corrected those mistakes for you.
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THUGGER, SECOND
I take it NEITHER of you has watched any significant portion of the testimony.
So I feel completely free to ignore every single comment of yours about it, here and everywhere else, as ignorant - and worse - propagandized.
Flies shit.
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I just heard from a lady that has a friend that used to work at CNN, that one of Anderson Cooper's ex-gay lovers said he heard that they have testimony that Trump lied to his mother about washing his hands before dinner one time when he was 5 years old...damn if I'll ever vote for him again now that I know he's that kind of scum bag.
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