Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Quote:Signym, you are as stupid as Trump and 1kiki. The Senate won't end Trump's Presidency but you know what could end Trump early? A stroke. If you took his blood pressure while he was running his mouth, we'd know for sure. See Woodrow Wilson's stroke:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In SECONDRATE's ever-sifting kaleidescope of thoughts, SECONDRATE jump tracks froHouse rules to Senate effectiveness, to death. SECONDRATE has no idea which of his ideas takes precedence and cannot control his own thoughts. SECONDRATE
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/woodrow-wilson-suffers-a-stroke
I can't see Melania Trump becoming acting President like Edith Wilson did:
www.politico.com/story/2018/10/02/this-day-in-politics-oct-2-1919-8531
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This sounds like something Trump would do: "Edith and Wilson’s aide, Joe Tumulty, helped a journalist, Louis Seibold of the New York World, write a false account of a purported interview with the president. (Seibold won the 1921 Pulitzer Prize for national reporting for his fabricated account of the interview.)"
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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White House Counsel Pat Cipollone sent an eight-page-long middle finger to House Democratic leaders on Tuesday, pledging resistance to the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
As a legal matter, Cipollone’s letter is nonsense. Several court decisions make it clear that the White House is not above the law. Executive privilege is real, and it sometimes prevents some inquiries into presidential behavior, but it is not an absolute privilege — especially in the context of a criminal investigation.
As a practical matter, however, Trump is likely to get away with it because there’s no one who can stop him. House investigators and others may be able to obtain a court order requiring the White House to comply with an investigation. But if Trump continues to refuse, Congress and the courts have limited options.
As Alexander Hamilton once wrote of courts: the judiciary “may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments.”
The constitutional mechanism, meanwhile, for dealing with a lawless president — impeachment and conviction — requires at least 20 Republican senators to vote to remove a president of their own party.
So long as Trump believes that his fellow partisans will hang together, he has little incentive to comply with a court order.
www.vox.com/2019/10/10/20906172/trump-congressional-subpoenas-constitu
tional-crisis-impeachment
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Trump hasn't acted lawlessly.
If you truly believe that he is now, I bet you regret the way the Legacy Media has not picked its battles, and subsequently, how you haven't either.
Something like 55% of less than 5% of the people who actually watch the news and pay any attention to any of this are for impeachment.
Wooptie doooo
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:For one, the "Legacy Media" is not in a battle. It is in a business. But there is a battle going on in which most Americans do NOT pay attention, which is why they lose it: Between 1989 and 2018, the top one percent increased its total net worth by $21 trillion. The bottom 50 percent actually saw its net worth decrease by $900 billion over the same period.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump hasn't acted lawlessly.
If you truly believe that he is now, I bet you regret the way the Legacy Media has not picked its battles, and subsequently, how you haven't either.
Something like 55% of less than 5% of the people who actually watch the news and pay any attention to any of this are for impeachment.
Wooptie doooo
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/14/eye-popping-analysis-shows-top-1-
gained-21-trillion-wealth-1989-while-bottom-half
6ix, in this battle, the GOP protects people like me from people like you by keeping the minimum wage at a minimum and by lowering my taxes. On the other hand, the Democrats don't protect me from higher wages and higher taxes. Maybe I should vote for Trump next time, since he is making me richer?
"Wooptie doooo" to quote 6ix.
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Go ahead. Vote for Trump.
We both live in states where it doesn't matter anyway. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:NOTE: This is investigation on whether or not Ukraine inerfered in the USA election on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
The Latest: Ukraine to probe alleged 2016 US interference
By Associated Press
October 10, 2019 at 7:33 AM EDT
KYIV, Ukraine — The Latest on Ukrainian president’s “media marathon” (all times local):
2:25 p.m.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says his country will “happily” investigate whether Ukrainians interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections. ... He said it’s in Ukraine’s interest to determine what happened.
Quote:If any of you moronic liberaloids and crazy never-Trumpers had read the transcript, you should have noticed that THAT was Trump's big request from Urkaine. Biden was an afterthought.
President Donald Trump asked Zelenskiy for such an investigation in a July phone call
Quote:So stick it up your arses about this "quid pro quo" and "dangling aid in return for favors". This is NOT the first time that Zelenskiy has said this, nor is it the first time it was posted here, but even tho you absorb lies like crazy, relevant FACTS seem to bounce off your helmet-like heads ... especially SECONDRATE, who is nuts and lives in a world of complete denial.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there was “no blackmail” in a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump that helped spark an impeachment inquiry.
Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said that he only learned after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.
Because of copyright restrictions I've only posted snippets and a link. You can find more here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-latest-ukraine-to-prob
e-alleged-2016-us-interference/2019/10/10/c4d79802-eb51-11e9-a329-7378fbfa1b63_story.html
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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As I understand it, Trump will cooperate with the investigation but only if Pelosi allows Republicans to participate in meetings, to cross examine and be able to call rebuttal witnesses, and allow Trump counsel during House testimony.
Those protections were accorded Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton (when she was investigated for Benghazi) and it's only fair. Otherwise Pelosi is just heading a kangaroo court. So I'm glad that Trump is giving House Dems the big middle finger; they deserve it.
As more information comes out, I think the House Dems will be sorry that they concocted this (yet another) hoax on the American people. Barr and Durham were in Italy pursuing the FISA investigation/ Steele "dossier". It will be interesting to see what comes of their investigation.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Quote:Setting up a kangaroo court - that's exactly why House dems ignored their own House rulebook for starting an impeachment inquiry, which calls for a full House vote. (And repub participation.)
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As I understand it, Trump will cooperate with the investigation but only if Pelosi allows Republicans to participate in meetings, to cross examine and be able to call rebuttal witnesses, and allow Trump counsel during House testimony.
Those protections were accorded Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton (when she was investigated for Benghazi) and it's only fair. Otherwise Pelosi is just heading a kangaroo court. So I'm glad that Trump is giving House Dems the big middle finger; they deserve it.
And in all the reporting I've seen on this since it began (which is a lot), the lack of repub participation, and the fact that this is a 100% dem effort without a repub in sight, had been glided-past maybe 4 times.
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The Actual Laws Trump Has Broken, Just With the Ukraine and China Affairs, Could Land Him 10 Years in Prison.
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/10/trump-crimes-law/
Attorney General William Barr’s Department of Justice has declined to press charges against Trump, but Barr won't be in charge forever. The House of Representatives is pushing forward with its impeachment inquiry. In the meantime, Trump has said that he will refuse to cooperate with lawful subpoenas — itself a prima facie violation of 2 U.S. Code § 192, “Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers,” punishable by a year in prison.
Coercing his deputies into joining in the conspiracy would also runs afoul of the law. “As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign,” Bill Taylor, the top American diplomat in Ukraine, reiterated in a text message to Trump official Gordon Sondland, strongly suggesting he was pursuing the strategy against his own wishes.
If Taylor felt coerced into helping with “a political campaign,” that implicates 18 U.S. Code § 610, which covers that crime rather clearly under the title: “Coercion of political activity.”
The law reads: “It shall be unlawful for any person to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, any employee of the Federal Government … to engage in … any political activity.” The sentence caps at three years.
It’s also illegal, according to 18 U.S. Code § 595, when a government official, “in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President.” That statute could add another year to the sentence.
Prosecutors, in trying to pressure defendants into a plea bargain, often engage in what’s known as “stacking,” where they find every conceivable charge and stack them to the ceiling, threatening decades in prison if the defendant contests all the charges. A prosecutor who wanted to stack charges against Trump could ding him for 18 U.S. Code § 607, “Place of solicitation,” and 52 U.S. Code § 30121, “Contributions and donations by foreign nationals.” Essentially, it’s illegal to solicit contributions to your presidential campaign from the Oval Office and illegal to solicit from foreign nationals no matter where you do it from: “It shall be unlawful for an individual who is an officer or employee of the Federal Government, including the President … to solicit or receive a donation of money or other thing of value in connection with a Federal, State, or local election, while in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties by an officer or employee of the United States, from any person.”
That’s another three years.
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