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Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:36 PM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So let's break down what the M$M generously calls "facts"
Here's a fact from the White House:
TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
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Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:41 PM
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So let's break down what the M$M generously calls "facts"
Here's a fact from the White House:
TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
Yeah. So?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:57 PM
Quote:Is this supposed to be some sort of response to my post? If so it gets an epic fail because
I've disagreed with a lot of stuff Trump has done, or wants to do. I even tried to engage you all in discussing something other than BULLLSHIT and empty VIRTUE SIGNALLING in quite a number of those!
Our economy and finances? Hello?
War? Oh that's right, you think discussing whether we should kill a million more people is pointless!
Reindustrialization?
The environment? Global climate shift?
There's lots to talk about, and a lot of areas to disagree with Trump!
But ... you couldn't be bothered.
Bitch.- SIGNY
I've been around since the say of Nixon-voting Republicans ...-SEONDHAND
a) I'm not a Republican SECONDRATE, as you know
b) SECONDHAND is once again failing to use the QUOTE function, making it difficult to dig SECONDHAND's opiniom from someone else's.
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Republicans turned on Nixon. Here’s why they won’t turn on Trump: as was NOT the case in 1974, Republicans now have counterfactual media that allows or compels them to ignore blatant lawbreaking.
Oh yes, thank you for reminding me about another counterfactual "point" that the M$M brought up ... it breathlessly opined that Trump placing the record of the call on a super-secret server demonstrated "knowledge of guilt" but failed to make the comparison to Hillary bleach-bitting 33,000 emails.
Hello??
Quote:WHAT "criminality"? You failed to make your "case" on every single point, and yet you have this idee fixe (or this propagnada talking point) that Trump somehow broke the law.
Republicans haven’t always responded to the clear criminality of a Republican president
WHAT DID HE DO? Did he threaten Ukrainian head of state? Offer a quid pro quo? Pressure Australia? Do any of the half-dozen things that the CIA "whistlblower" (ie spy/ mole) fabricated and that the M$M turned into a gargantuan crappuccino?
Quote:THERE WAS NO THREAT. If this is what you're basing your outrage on, son, take the tinfoil off your head and climb down from your soapbox.
A straightforward reading of U.S. law makes clear that Trump’s threat
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blah blah blah blah- SECONDHAND
Jeezus.
This consistent lying by the CIA, M$M, and Congressional Democrats should tell you something, but of course, it doesn't. You fail to see the big picture, and you believe the lies.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:13 PM
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So let's break down what the M$M generously calls "facts" - SIGNY
Here's a fact from the White House:
TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me." - CC
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that "ask".
But if you think that's wrong, then MI6 investigating Trump for Clinton DURING AN ACTIVE CAMPAIGN was also wrong.
Like other ideologically-possessed people [of both sides], you fail to apply your own standards to yourself.
And how about foreign intelligence setting traps (dangles) for a political rival, or foreign intelligence fabricating "evidence" to smear a political rival, or threatening a foreign government in some way to get a less-than-tranparent outcome?
Bad, right?
BTW, you failed to notice that this phone conversation happened WELL BEFORE Biden tossed his hat into the ring, so you can't even say that Trump was trying to ruin his campaign, because Biden had none.
You people are idiots. Why don't you come up with a REAL criticism of Trump? Why do you rely on made-up stuff? It's not like there aren't policy issues to criticize!
Yanno, I was going to write Tulsi Gabbard in for President, but watching the CIA, the M$M, Congressional Democrats and you, my friends, endlessly spewing lies about Trump makes me want to vote for him, just to spite you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Thursday, October 3, 2019 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that "ask".
Of course you don't - you're a hardcore Trumper trying to get us to think you are "open."
I'm not ok with presidents asking foreign leaders to dig up dirt on their rivals. Pretty sure it's a no-no constitutionally as well - we'll see.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But if you think that's wrong, then MI6 investigating Trump for Clinton DURING AN ACTIVE CAMPAIGN was also wrong.
Like other ideologically-possessed people [of both sides], you fail to apply your own standards to yourself.
And how about foreign intelligence setting traps (dangles) for a political rival, or foreign intelligence fabricating "evidence" to smear a political rival, or threatening a foreign government in some way to get a less-than-tranparent outcome?
Bad, right?
^ Weak ass SIGGY deflections that would probably fall apart if anyone wanted to bother.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, you failed to notice that this phone conversation happened WELL BEFORE Biden tossed his hat into the ring, so you can't even say that Trump was trying to ruin his campaign, because Biden had none.
Wrong of course. I will never understand how you can take such pride in being so wrong.
The phone call was July 25th, Biden declared in April.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_2020_presidential_campaign
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You people are idiots. Why don't you come up with a REAL criticism of Trump? Why do you rely on made-up stuff?
Except it's not made up - so we're doing that.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, I was going to write Tulsi Gabbard in for President, but watching the CIA, the M$M, Congressional Democrats and you, my friends, endlessly spewing lies about Trump makes me want to vote for him, just to spite you.
Wow, really?? I would never have guessed! *snort* We knew all along you were. The Gabbard thing was another deflection, probably from your special newsletter you subscribe to, "make noise for Gabbard." You've been a Trumper and always will be as long as he's as disruptive as he is.
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Thursday, October 3, 2019 12:55 AM
Quote:Today, Trump cheated on his taxes. A whistleblower turned Trump in. Cheat is a vague word. Signym, you want something precise. You want to know what crime did Trump do? I cannot say because Trump is keeping his tax returns secret, but he promised that he would make them public. He committed a crime, but nobody knows what, exactly, he did, until those returns are pried away from Trump's control. Maybe Trump did almost nothing wrong. Maybe not. Maybe it is a huge crime. Can't tell until Trump's IRS or Trump's accountants cooperate and make Trump's returns public. Trump promised to do it. All Presidents make their returns public. You can see years of other Presidents' returns, but not Trump's, except for 2 pages from 2005. www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:WHAT "criminality"? You failed to make your "case" on every single point, and yet you have this idee fixe (or this propagnada talking point) that Trump somehow broke the law.
Republicans haven’t always responded to the clear criminality of a Republican president
www.businessinsider.com/whistleblower-alleges-inappropriate-action-ove
r-trump-taxe-returns-2019-10
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Thursday, October 3, 2019 1:24 AM
Quote:And what are YOU, oh lying one?
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
Of course you don't - you're a hardcore Trumper trying to get us to think you are "open."
Quote:That whole line - it's just more of that made-up shit you love so much.
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
I'm not ok with presidents asking foreign leaders to dig up dirt on their rivals. Pretty sure it's a no-no constitutionally as well - we'll see.
And BTW, ** I'm ** not in favor of the CIA running a soft coup on our own US president. And this sure smells like one.
BTW, all you shit-swallowing never-Trumpers have a perfectly legitimate, democracy-loving way to get rid of him - at the ballot box, in the election.
You must really hate democracy and upholding the results of democratic elections to be doing what you're doing.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But if you think that's wrong, then MI6 investigating Trump for Clinton DURING AN ACTIVE CAMPAIGN was also wrong.
Like other ideologically-possessed people [of both sides], you fail to apply your own standards to yourself.
And how about foreign intelligence setting traps (dangles) for a political rival, or foreign intelligence fabricating "evidence" to smear a political rival, or threatening a foreign government in some way to get a less-than-tranparent outcome?
Bad, right?
Quote:Weak ass MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ deflections that would probably fall apart if anyone wanted to bother.
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
^ Weak ass SIGGY deflections that would probably fall apart if anyone wanted to bother.
So let me bother.
There was NO quid-pro-quo between Trump and Zelensky, because 1) Zelensky was never contacted by Giuliani ahead of time, 2) Zelensky didn't know the money was withheld, and 3) he never felt pressured.
Without that, ALL YOU HAVE is Trump calling to ask a foreign leader to look into possible illegal activities of Americans while they were living abroad, and potential illegal interference by Ukrainians in the US elections.
OMFingG.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, you failed to notice that this phone conversation happened WELL BEFORE Biden tossed his hat into the ring, so you can't even say that Trump was trying to ruin his campaign, because Biden had none.
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Wrong of course. I will never understand how you can take such pride in being so wrong.
The phone call was July 25th, Biden declared in April.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_2020_presidential_campaign
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You people are idiots. Why don't you come up with a REAL criticism of Trump? Why do you rely on made-up stuff?
Quote:WHAT part isn't 'made up' again?
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
Except it's not made up - so we're doing that.
The part about quid pro quo?
The part about Giuliani?
The part about Zelensky being pressured?
You mean THOSE non-made-up made-up parts?
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, I was going to write Tulsi Gabbard in for President, but watching the CIA, the M$M, Congressional Democrats and you, my friends, endlessly spewing lies about Trump makes me want to vote for him, just to spite you.
Quote:How do you get YOUR advice, MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ?
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
Wow, really?? I would never have guessed! *snort* We knew all along you were. The Gabbard thing was another deflection, probably from your special newsletter you subscribe to, "make noise for Gabbard." You've been a Trumper and always will be as long as he's as disruptive as he is.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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Thursday, October 3, 2019 1:32 AM
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:And what are YOU, oh lying one?
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
Of course you don't - you're a hardcore Trumper trying to get us to think you are "open."Quote:That whole line - it's just more of that made-up shit you love so much.
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
I'm not ok with presidents asking foreign leaders to dig up dirt on their rivals. Pretty sure it's a no-no constitutionally as well - we'll see.
And BTW, ** I'm ** not in favor of the CIA running a soft coup on our own US president. And this sure smells like one.
BTW, all you shit-swallowing never-Trumpers have a perfectly legitimate, democracy-loving way to get rid of him - at the ballot box, in the election.
You must really hate democracy and upholding the results of democratic elections to be doing what you're doing.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But if you think that's wrong, then MI6 investigating Trump for Clinton DURING AN ACTIVE CAMPAIGN was also wrong.
Like other ideologically-possessed people [of both sides], you fail to apply your own standards to yourself.
And how about foreign intelligence setting traps (dangles) for a political rival, or foreign intelligence fabricating "evidence" to smear a political rival, or threatening a foreign government in some way to get a less-than-tranparent outcome?
Bad, right?
Quote:Weak ass MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ deflections that would probably fall apart if anyone wanted to bother.
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
^ Weak ass SIGGY deflections that would probably fall apart if anyone wanted to bother.
So let me bother.
There was NO quid-pro-quo between Trump and Zelensky, because 1) Zelensky was never contacted by Giuliani ahead of time, 2) Zelensky didn't know the money was withheld, and 3) he never felt pressured.
Without that, ALL YOU HAVE is Trump calling to ask a foreign leader to look into possible illegal activities of Americans while they were living abroad, and potential illegal interference by Ukrainians in the US elections.
OMFingG.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, you failed to notice that this phone conversation happened WELL BEFORE Biden tossed his hat into the ring, so you can't even say that Trump was trying to ruin his campaign, because Biden had none.
Quote:
Wrong of course. I will never understand how you can take such pride in being so wrong.
The phone call was July 25th, Biden declared in April.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_2020_presidential_campaign
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You people are idiots. Why don't you come up with a REAL criticism of Trump? Why do you rely on made-up stuff?
Quote:WHAT part isn't 'made up' again?
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
Except it's not made up - so we're doing that.
The part about quid pro quo?
The part about Giuliani?
The part about Zelensky being pressured?
You mean THOSE non-made-up made-up parts?
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, I was going to write Tulsi Gabbard in for President, but watching the CIA, the M$M, Congressional Democrats and you, my friends, endlessly spewing lies about Trump makes me want to vote for him, just to spite you.
Quote:How do you get YOUR advice, MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ?
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
Wow, really?? I would never have guessed! *snort* We knew all along you were. The Gabbard thing was another deflection, probably from your special newsletter you subscribe to, "make noise for Gabbard." You've been a Trumper and always will be as long as he's as disruptive as he is.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
I think I broke the Kiki.
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Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:15 AM
Quote:Trump's illness has infected 1kiki: "Trump is just raving these days, both online and off, and a few minutes ago he practically melted down in public while the president of Finland stoically stared into his hands." It Just Keeps Getting Worse
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/10/it-just-keeps-getting-worse/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Thursday, October 3, 2019 4:36 AM
Quote:You just proved how void you are of ideas and facts, and how full you are of bullshit trolling.
Originally posted by MUSHYCEREALBRAINZ:
You can't even address YOUR OWN POST on a point-by-point basis.
Whatever.
Enjoy your trip into insanity. May you never come back.
The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
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