Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:30 AM

I just googled "President of the United States" and it's still Donald Trump.

Guess nothing happened while I was busy today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump (and Signym) Want Confusion

Creating a sense of complexity and impenetrability — a vague sense that “both sides” are doing something wrong even when only one is — has long been a key part of the Trump playbook. The idea, as former Soviet dissident Garry Kasparov identifies clearly in a series of tweets, is to deflect so much that the public tunes out, and pressure on lawmakers to act abates

Thanks, that sums it all up rather well. Saved me a half hour of responding to the loon.

I will say, saying you don't care what I do or say and then supporting a system of government that that wants to control everything I do or say IS THE SAME DAMN THING

It's beyond suspicious you have never heard Sunshine by Jonathan Edwards. You'd have to be on a different planet. 1971?? Ridiculous.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump (and Signym) Want Confusion

Creating a sense of complexity and impenetrability — a vague sense that “both sides” are doing something wrong even when only one is — has long been a key part of the Trump playbook. The idea, as former Soviet dissident Garry Kasparov identifies clearly in a series of tweets, is to deflect so much that the public tunes out, and pressure on lawmakers to act abates

Thanks, that sums it all up rather well. Saved me a half hour of responding to the loon.

I will say, saying you don't care what I do or say and then supporting a system of government that that wants to control everything I do or say IS THE DAMN DAMN THING

To pretend that one side does everything wrong while the other side is virtuous because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome is beyond foolish.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

To pretend that one side does everything wrong while the other side is virtuous because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome is beyond foolish.

To pretend one side isn't wrong because of being in a cult that isn't allowed to say a behavior is wrong is mindfucked. If you haven't disagreed with A SINGLE THING Chump has done you are in a cult.

And YES, I have agreed that something needs to be done about immigration, but not the dickish hick way he has...in the slightest.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:26 AM

I've disagreed with plenty of stuff that he's done.

I'm on record here saying it too.

Either go find the posts, or keep yer yap shut and stop lying.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've disagreed with plenty of stuff that he's done.

I'd say you should know what you have disagreed with better than me. Name one.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 2:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

To pretend that one side does everything wrong while the other side is virtuous because of your Trump Derangement Syndrome is beyond foolish.

To pretend one side isn't wrong because of being in a cult that isn't allowed to say a behavior is wrong is mindfucked. If you haven't disagreed with A SINGLE THING Chump has done you are in a cult.

And YES, I have agreed that something needs to be done about immigration, but not the dickish hick way he has...in the slightest.

I've disagreed with a lot of stuff Trump has done, or wants to do. I even tried to engage you all in discussing something other than BULLLSHIT and empty VIRTUE SIGNALLING in quite a number of those!

Our economy and finances? Hello?
War? Oh that's right, you think discussing whether we should kill a million more people is pointless!
Reindustrialization?
The environment? Global climate shift?

There's lots to talk about, and a lot of areas to disagree with Trump!

But ... you couldn't be bothered.

Bitch.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

SECOND

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I've disagreed with a lot of stuff Trump has done, or wants to do. I even tried to engage you all in discussing something other than BULLLSHIT and empty VIRTUE SIGNALLING in quite a number of those!

Our economy and finances? Hello?
War? Oh that's right, you think discussing whether we should kill a million more people is pointless!
Reindustrialization?
The environment? Global climate shift?

There's lots to talk about, and a lot of areas to disagree with Trump!

But ... you couldn't be bothered.

Bitch.

I've been around since the days of the Nixon voting Republicans. They voted for him but they had doubts about some of Nixon's policies they felt to be too sweeping, too liberal. The same people I knew 45 years ago voted for Trump, but they have doubts about some of Trump's policies being too this or too that, just like Signym (or 6ix) (or 1kiki).

Republicans turned on Nixon. Here’s why they won’t turn on Trump: as was NOT the case in 1974, Republicans now have counterfactual media that allows or compels them to ignore blatant lawbreaking.
https://prospect.org/impeachment/republicans-turned-on-nixon-trump-imp
eachment-media/

Republicans haven’t always responded to the clear criminality of a Republican president with indifference, or with fury at those who call the crime a crime.

A straightforward reading of U.S. law makes clear that Trump’s threat to Ukrainian President Zelensky violated 52 U.S. Code 30121, which makes it unlawful for “a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph A of paragraph 1 from a foreign national.” That subparagraph A defines what it’s unlawful to solicit, accept, or receive as “a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value … in connection with a Federal, State, or local election.” 99.999 percent of the American people don’t know the particulars of 52 U.S. Code 30121, but only those in tribal denial don’t grasp that threatening Ukraine unless it cooked up something to help Trump besmirch Joe Biden violated something fundamental.

Why no Republican demands to investigate Trump? What changed the Republican Party? Nixon, after all, relied on tribal enmity no less than Trump. Nixon’s campaigns railed against Democrats, whom it mushed together with radicals, crazy kids, militant blacks, and hippies. Nixon was a vastly more intelligent pol (and man) than Trump, but he built his career on the fear and loathing he stoked within his base for his political adversaries.

Nonetheless, the GOP bowed to the evidence and deserted Nixon.

So why the difference now? What enables Republicans to deny, ignore, or not care about the evidence—not just in the Ukrainian affair? That denial, ignorance, and indifference extends well beyond the case of Donald Trump, to such other notable realities as planet-threatening climate change. How did the “ism” that Republicans scorn the most become empiricism?

More at https://prospect.org/impeachment/republicans-turned-on-nixon-trump-imp
eachment-media/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I'd say you should know what you have disagreed with better than me. Name one.

Wow wishy, you're in full 'howling at the moon' mode, aren't you?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I've disagreed with a lot of stuff Trump has done, or wants to do. I even tried to engage you all in discussing something other than BULLLSHIT and empty VIRTUE SIGNALLING in quite a number of those!

Our economy and finances? Hello?
War? Oh that's right, you think discussing whether we should kill a million more people is pointless!
Reindustrialization?
The environment? Global climate shift?

There's lots to talk about, and a lot of areas to disagree with Trump!

But ... you couldn't be bothered.

Bitch.
I've been around since the days of the Nixon voting Republicans. They voted for him but they had doubts about some of Nixon's policies they felt to be too sweeping, too liberal. The same people I knew 45 years ago voted for Trump, but they have doubts about some of Trump's policies being too this or too that, just like Signym (or 6ix) (or 1kiki).

Republicans turned on Nixon. Here’s why they won’t turn on Trump: as was NOT the case in 1974, Republicans now have counterfactual media that allows or compels them to ignore blatant lawbreaking.
https://prospect.org/impeachment/republicans-turned-on-nixon-trump-imp
eachment-media/

Republicans haven’t always responded to the clear criminality of a Republican president with indifference, or with fury at those who call the crime a crime.

A straightforward reading of U.S. law makes clear that Trump’s threat to Ukrainian President Zelensky violated 52 U.S. Code 30121, which makes it unlawful for “a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph A of paragraph 1 from a foreign national.” That subparagraph A defines what it’s unlawful to solicit, accept, or receive as “a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value … in connection with a Federal, State, or local election.” 99.999 percent of the American people don’t know the particulars of 52 U.S. Code 30121, but only those in tribal denial don’t grasp that threatening Ukraine unless it cooked up something to help Trump besmirch Joe Biden violated something fundamental.

Why no Republican demands to investigate Trump? What changed the Republican Party? Nixon, after all, relied on tribal enmity no less than Trump. Nixon’s campaigns railed against Democrats, whom it mushed together with radicals, crazy kids, militant blacks, and hippies. Nixon was a vastly more intelligent pol (and man) than Trump, but he built his career on the fear and loathing he stoked within his base for his political adversaries.

Nonetheless, the GOP bowed to the evidence and deserted Nixon.

So why the difference now? What enables Republicans to deny, ignore, or not care about the evidence—not just in the Ukrainian affair? That denial, ignorance, and indifference extends well beyond the case of Donald Trump, to such other notable realities as planet-threatening climate change. How did the “ism” that Republicans scorn the most become empiricism?

More at https://prospect.org/impeachment/republicans-turned-on-nixon-trump-imp
eachment-media/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I'm not ignorant to what the media has to say about Trump.

You were on to something when you started off about the counterfactual media. Because that is what it is. They've been lying for years. You know they've been lying for years.

All the Democrats have to do is call Trump on the real bullshit he says. Stuff like, yanno, how wonderful the economy is doing today. It might be better right now than at any time under the Obama administration, but that is almost like saying that your house that was on fire was put out, and even though you don't have homeowners insurance at least it's not on fire anymore.

Or they could ask why we're still in all these wars. Why he's no different than GWB or Obama was on that front either.

But they

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