Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YES, I know! And according to you they should all be killed!
Just the fascist ones.
But that should be the penalty for trying to run someone else's life to serve your own bloated agenda, anyway.
At least I'm not sooo delusional I think my agenda will turn the world into a utopia of mindfuckdom. We just need better control over the little people and everything will be better, huh?
You can't even run your own life, I'll beat you to death if you try to run mine, sunshine.
Since you don't seem to get many American pop culture references, that's adapted from a song. It's top three one of my favorite songs ever.
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Quote:You are faking knowledge you do not have, Signym. By 2016 officials throughout the Obama administration and in Western Europe had come to a consensus that Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, wasn’t doing enough to crack down on corruption there. Joe Biden, as he later colorfully recounted, delivered the message that the West wanted Shokin gone or else loan guarantees would be held up and Shokin was, in turn, fired. There are great stories about Biden's no-good son at:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So let's break down what the M$M generously calls "facts"
The Ukrainian Chief prosecutor was fired because of lack of diligence in investigating Burisma.
Not according the the timeline and the performance of the other prosecutors (before AND after) who didn't investigate Burisma at all.
"Hunter Biden, the black sheep who might accidentally bring down Trump, explained"
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burism
a-ukraine-shokin
Hunter Biden is a troubled guy at the center of the fake scandal that became a real scandal.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Grassley breaks with Trump over protecting whistleblower
Sen. Chuck Grassley moved to stave off attacks and the unmasking of a federal whistleblower who first divulged President Donald Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president, a move at odds with many of the president’s defenders.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/grassley-breaks-with-trump-ove
r-protecting-whistleblower/ar-AAI7jQ8?ocid=spartandhp
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YES, I know! And according to you they should all be killed! -SIGNY
Just the fascist ones. - WISHY
Yep! Down to the last hundred!- SIGNY
Quote:fify
But that should be the penalty for trying to run someone else's life to serveyourmy own bloated agenda, anyway.
Quote:OF COURSE YOU DO! Because if "all" the fascists are killed ... and the people who don't fight fascism hard enough (according to you) ... and the innocent people who inevitably get in the way of your crusade ... then we'll have a world of total freedom! which is SO WORTH all of the killing!
At least I'm not sooo delusional I think my agenda will turn the world into a utopia of mindfuckdom.
Quote:WISHY, BLOWING OUT HER ASS AGAIN.
You can't even run your own life
Quote:Am I trying to "run your life"? Am I the one telling you you have to give up meat and give up your car and give up a room to house illegal aliens? Have I EVER threatened you with ... anything? Have I commanded who you can fuck, and how? Does ANYone care what you do in your bedroom? (NO, and I'd rather not hear about it either. When I grew up, a lady didn't talk with strangers about her sex life.)
I'll beat you to death if you try to run mine, sunshine.
Yer delusional. You're attacking an enemy that doesn't exist. Stop swinging at air.
Quote:Maybe I'm too old to get "pop" culture references. I grew up in just around the hippie era but my morals were shaped by the Catholic Church. So, what reference did I miss? Because ... I missed it.
Since you don't seem to get many American pop culture references, that's adapted from a song. It's top three one of my favorite songs ever.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Trump (and Signym) Want Confusion
Creating a sense of complexity and impenetrability — a vague sense that “both sides” are doing something wrong even when only one is — has long been a key part of the Trump playbook. The idea, as former Soviet dissident Garry Kasparov identifies clearly in a series of tweets, is to deflect so much that the public tunes out, and pressure on lawmakers to act abates:
“As you watch Trump’s defenders lie, deflect, and distract today and in the coming weeks, remember that they don’t care about being caught in obvious lies. Calling bullshit still means you’re talking about the bullshit, not the facts,” Kasparov writes. “They want doubt. They can make up a dozen new lies and new distractions every day while there’s only one truth. Stop chasing them and keep repeating the facts.”
Keep Your Eye on the Ball
We know that President Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden on the basis of a debunked nonsense allegation during a July phone call — and then tried to cover it up.
We know this because of a federal whistleblower complaint, citing testimony from a number of officials who heard the call and witnessed the White House’s attempts to hide it by moving the call transcript to a server designed for classified information. We know the whistleblower is correct because of a call summary released by the White House, as well as a White House statement admitting the call transcript was transferred to a classified server.
These basic facts are all you really need to know to understand the Ukraine scandal: The president of the United States asking for “a favor” (his words) from a foreign leader — an intervention in the 2020 US election on his behalf. His administration then hid this fact by using powers of classification that were designed to protect state secrets, not politically damaging information. This is an abuse of power, and we know it happened.
All of the defects Trump’s critics see in the president’s character — his venal transactionalism, his mob-esque worldview, his lack of concern for the national interest, his own pseudo-authoritarian instincts — are on display in the Ukraine call, and it paints a damning indictment of a man unfit for the country’s highest office.
There’s lots of Trump scandal news, but don’t get confused: This is about Trump co-opting the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20893368/impeachment-trump-u
kraine-news
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Quote:No, I'm not. I posted an article with a link, and KIKI showed that the timeline between Shokin's hiring and firing was too short for him to have established a track record for anything, let alone this particular investigation.
So let's break down what the M$M generously calls "facts"
The Ukrainian Chief prosecutor was fired because of lack of diligence in investigating Burisma.
Not according the the timeline and the performance of the other prosecutors (before AND after) who didn't investigate Burisma at all.- SIGNY
You are faking knowledge you do not have, Signym. = SECONDRATE
You can quibble and deflect all you want, SECONDRATE, but there's a whole stack of "facts" that the M$M got "wrong". And when they get so many facts "wrong" so many times, all biased in the same direction, it starts to look like deliberate defamation instead of "mistakes".
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Quote:That leaves Congress to correct for the media's "mistakes". A critical debate took place on July 20, 1787, which resulted in adding the impeachment clause to the U.S. Constitution. Benjamin Franklin said that when the president falls under suspicion, a “regular and peaceable inquiry” is needed.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You can quibble and deflect all you want, SECONDRATE, but there's a whole stack of "facts" that the M$M got "wrong". And when they get so many facts "wrong" so many times, all biased in the same direction, it starts to look like deliberate defamation instead of "mistakes".
One of the Founders’ greatest fears was that the president would abuse his power. George Mason described the president as the “man who can commit the most extensive injustice.” James Madison thought the president might “pervert his administration into a scheme of [stealing public funds] or oppression or betray his trust to foreign powers.” Edmund Randolph, governor of Virginia, said the president “will have great opportunitys of abusing his power; particularly in time of war when the military force, and in some respects the public money will be in his hands.”
Gouverneur Morris of Pennsylvania worried that the president “may be bribed by a greater interest to betray his trust and no one would say that we ought to expose ourselves to the danger of seeing [him] in foreign pay.” James Madison, himself a future president, said that in the case of the president, “corruption was within the compass of probable events … and might be fatal to the Republic.”
William Davie of North Carolina argued that impeachment was “an essential security for the good behaviour” of the president; otherwise, “he will spare no efforts or means whatever to get himself re-elected.” Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts pointed out that a good president will not worry about impeachment, but a “bad one ought to be kept in fear.”
https://theconversation.com/founders-removal-from-office-is-not-the-on
ly-purpose-of-impeachment-124254
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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So bascially SECONDRATE, you've given up on discussing facts (because, yanno, you struck out on all points) and are pinning your hopes on partisan wrangling in Congress.
BTW, sweetcheeks ... both sides ARE doing something wrong. Both sides ARE corrupt. The only difference is who they sold their souls to.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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Quote:Hey, Signym! Here are some facts for you: Trump suggested shooting migrants in the legs in order to slow them down after they crossed the southern border during a March meeting.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So bascially SECONDRATE, you've given up on discussing facts (because, yanno, you struck out on all points) and are pinning your hopes on partisan wrangling in Congress.
BTW, sweetcheeks ... both sides ARE doing something wrong. Both sides ARE corrupt. The only difference is who they sold their souls to.
"You are making me look like an idiot!" Trump shouted during the meeting, adding in a profanity, multiple officials in the room told the Times. "I ran on this. It's my issue."
Citing interviews with more than a dozen White House and administration officials directly involved, the Times -- in an excerpt from the book "Border Wars: Inside Trump's Assault on Immigration" -- reported that Trump had moved on from the idea by the end of what the Times described as "frenzied week of presidential rages." But he had also pivoted to removing staff who had opposed him, an idea largely advocated by White House aide Stephen Miller in his push for greater influence on immigration policy.
www.cnn.com/2019/10/01/politics/new-york-times-trump-shoot-migrants-le
gs/index.html
Signym, Trump is out-of-his-mind. Congress should stomp on him. I checked with Ben Franklin. He was opposed to lunatics as Presidents. His opinion is why there is an impeachment clause in the Constitution.
Franklin concluded that impeachment was a process that could be “favorable” to the president, saying it is the best way to provide for “the regular punishment of the Executive when his misconduct should deserve it and for his honorable acquittal when he should be unjustly accused.” -- https://theconversation.com/founders-removal-from-office-is-not-the-on
ly-purpose-of-impeachment-124254
By "regular punishment of the Executive" Franklin meant once a month Congress would impeach Trump for whatever idiotic things he did in the previous month.
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Hey, SECONDRATE! Trump ran on immigration! He trying to make good like his promises, unlike Obama who promised hope and change, most transparent government ever, and went back on everything he promised.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
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