Joe Biden / Hunter Biden / Ukraine - timeline

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1KIKI

Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:12 PM

I summarized the linked stories for the reading-intolerant. At first glance I noticed significant discrepancies between the various re-tellings of the history.

Here's the timeline as best I can gather:

February 2014
Viktor Yanukovych president removed by a coup/ Burisma's founder Mykola Zlochevsky was a close ally

March 11, 2014
London branch of the French bank BNP Paribas received a request to close Mykola Zlochevsky's accounts and transfer their ~ $23M balances to Cyprus.

between March 11, 2014 and the end of April 2014
Britain’s attorney general freezes the ~ $23M and initiates a money-laundering investigation. (Various news accounts indicate Burisma was already under investigation when Hunter Biden joined the board)

April 2014
Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, joined the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma

Spring of 2014
Joe Biden began his trips to Ukraine (to initiate cooperation and address corruption concerns)

February 2015
Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general

before April 2015
the British investigation collapses and a judge orders the money returned to Mykola Zlochevsky

2016
Ukrainian embassy officials suggest the Obama administration push for Shokin’s ouster

March 2016
Biden tells the country's leaders to get rid of Shokin or risk $1 billion in U.S. aid

March 2016
Bloomberg reports the investigation into Burisma was already dormant

In March/April 2014 the British freeze Zlochevsky's (Burisma's owner) accounts and launch an anti-corruption investigation.

During the British investigation, nothing (apparently) happens on the Ukraine side between and March/April 2014 and February 2015 (approximately 12 months), at which point Shokin becomes Ukraine's attorney general.

Some time between February 2015 and March/April 2015 (days minimum to 3 months maximum under Shokin's direction) Britain drops its case.

In March 2016, one year after Britain has already dropped its case, Biden tells Ukraine to get rid of Shokin due to non-performance on the Zlochevsky (Burisma) case.

After a year of inaction in Ukraine, Shokin is expected to make the British investigation into Burisma good, within days to 3 months; at which point Britain drops its investigation. A year later he's fired because of an issue which has been dormant for at least a year.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-likely-to-reopen-probe-of-hunter
-biden-firm-sources
A new team of independent prosecutors is supposed to re-open investigations of past cases and answer questions about the corruption in post-revolutionary Ukraine over the last five years.
During much of that time, investigations were launched against various powerful oligarchs, then quietly shut down when, it was widely assumed, the prosecutors were paid off. As a result it has been hard to know if the investigations were justified or merely launched for purposes of extortion.
Valentin Nalyvaichenko, a former head of Ukraine’s domestic intelligence agency and a member of Ukraine’s parliament, says he expects the corruption case of the Burisma gas company—two cases were opened and dropped by various prosecutors over the years—to be revisited. Hunter Biden, the son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, was a board member.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/763502822/what-were-the-bidens-doing-in
-ukraine-5-questions-answered
1. So what did Joe Biden do in Ukraine?
Then-President Barack Obama's administration was prepared to work with the new government, a position shared with European governments and international institutions, such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. But they were all concerned about the country's endemic corruption ... Obama made then-Vice President Biden the point man, and he became a frequent visitor to Ukraine.
2. What role did Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden play in Ukraine?
In the spring of 2014, as Joe Biden began his trips to Ukraine, Hunter Biden took a position on the

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:47 AM

Thanks for posting this. Should help to keep the facts straight.

Minister of Ecology? What would be the job description of that one? And filled by an energy tycoon?

1KIKI

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Minister of Ecology? What would be the job description of that one? And filled by an energy tycoon?

Eh ... what can I say? I didn't create the facts, I just tried and put them together in one place in some kind of order.

I DID leave out tidbits - like for example the fact that shortly before Hunter Biden was installed as a (non-expert, non-functioning, highly paid, and probably in absentia) Burisma Board member, he was bounced out of the Navy for cocaine use.

Quote:
https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/16/politics/hunter-biden-discharged-from-n
avy/index.html
Updated 8:23 PM ET, Fri October 17, 2014
The Navy Reserve discharged Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter this year after he tested positive for cocaine, U.S. officials confirmed.
Biden was commissioned as an ensign in May 2013 and assigned as a public affairs officer in a Norfolk, Virginia-based reserve unit. A month later, he tested positive for cocaine, and he was discharged in February, according to the report.

https://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/13/bidens-son-joins-ukraine-gas-companys-
board-of-directors.html
Published Tue, May 13 2014 2:49 PM EDT
Ukraine’s largest private gas producer announced on Tuesday that it added R. Hunter Biden—the son of U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden—to its board of directors.
Ukraine gas producer appoints Biden’s son to board

THG

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:26 AM

Here we go again folks. Trump extorts a foreign government by withholding needed aid already authorize a year earlier, and the trolls here go after democrat's completely ignoring why Trump is in trouble yet again.

Yep, that's what Russian trolls do.

T

WISHIMAY

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Here we go again folks. Trump extorts a foreign government by withholding needed aid already authorize a year earlier, and the trolls here go after democrat's completely ignoring why Trump is in trouble yet again.

Yep, that's what Russian trolls do.

Well summed up

THG

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Here we go again folks. Trump extorts a foreign government by withholding needed aid already authorize a year earlier, and the trolls here go after democrat's completely ignoring why Trump is in trouble yet again.

Yep, that's what Russian trolls do.

Well summed up

It's every time wish, no matter what he does, so I wanted to give my two cents before I ignore this thread.

T

1KIKI

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Here we go again folks. Trump extorts a foreign government by withholding needed aid already authorize a year earlier, and the trolls here go after democrat's completely ignoring why Trump is in trouble yet again.

Yep, that's what Russian trolls do.

T

1KIKI

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Here we go again folks. Trump extorts a foreign government by withholding needed aid already authorize a year earlier, and the trolls here go after democrat's completely ignoring why Trump is in trouble yet again.

Yep, that's what Russian trolls do.

Well summed up

1KIKI

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:39 AM

I hope you realize wishy that endorsing someone's libel makes you accountable as well. Just FYI.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

1KIKI

Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
It's every time wish, no matter what he does, so I wanted to give my two cents before I ignore this thread.

Facts must be too much for your compromised thinking to handle. Otherwise, why would you state you ignore them?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, September 29, 2019 11:41 AM

I just thought you'd appreciate my new tagline.

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

On August 11, 2019 Signym asked "What have Nazis DONE TO ANYONE?" That question wins first place for the Dumbest Question Ever Asked On The Internet.
SHOOT ALL FASCISTS IN THE HEAD! DANCE ON THEIR GRAVES, FREE ALL THE SLAVES!!

1KIKI

Sunday, September 29, 2019 12:30 PM

SHOOT ALL FASCISTS IN THE HEAD! DANCE ON THEIR GRAVES, FREE ALL THE SLAVES!!

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, September 29, 2019 5:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I just thought you'd appreciate my new tagline.

SHOOT ALL FASCISTS IN THE HEAD! DANCE ON THEIR GRAVES, FREE ALL THE SLAVES!!

Yup. Wishy has definitely become a parody of herself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, September 30, 2019 2:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I just thought you'd appreciate my new tagline.

SHOOT ALL FASCISTS IN THE HEAD! DANCE ON THEIR GRAVES, FREE ALL THE SLAVES!!

Yup. Wishy has definitely become a parody of herself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Silly you.

Most Libtards became parodies of themselves a few decades ago.

WISHIMAY

Monday, September 30, 2019 4:22 AM

I keep wondering if you fools thought "I wanna grow up to support and defend Fascists, because I want to be the biggest idiot loser I possibly can be...I mean, I want all of future History to despise me for making actual facts into partisan spin."

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

On August 11, 2019 Signym asked "What have Nazis DONE TO ANYONE?" That question wins first place for the Dumbest Question Ever Asked On The Internet.
SHOOT ALL FASCISTS IN THE HEAD! DANCE ON THEIR GRAVES, FREE ALL THE SLAVES!!

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:54 AM

There's a correction to the timeline: At the time that Britain was investigating the account transactions in 2014, Zlochevsky was no longer Burisma's owner.

“Burisma changed owners last year [in 2011]: instead of Zlochevsky and Lisin, the company was taken over by a Cypriot off-shore enterprise called Brociti Investments Ltd. Pari and Esko-Pivnich”

https://thesaker.is/here-is-the-dirt-trump-wanted-from-zelensky-about-
the-bidens-and-why-zelensky-doesnt-want-to-give-it-to-him-hidden-by-rampant-falsehoods-in-the-press/

That means that any attempted Zlochevsky prosecution was 3 years too late and completely misdirected. If there were issues with any Burisma owners, prosecutors needed to look into Kolomoisky, the new owner.

But if prosecutors were instructed to focus on Zlochevsky, a FORMER owner long since divorced from Burisma, (as per Biden's video), then it was for unknown reasons unrelated to business corruption.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, October 1, 2019 11:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

It's comforting to know what I can goad you to post.
After all, YOU are the one who thinks all of humanity can "rise above".

Massive hypocrite.

1KIKI

Tuesday, October 1, 2019 12:53 PM

I just thought it was funny! Every time I look at it, honest to god, I laugh. And it was a little bit related so it had an excuse.

C'mon! You think it's funny too, at least a little!

ETA: btw there is a CRAP-ton of photos on google of women holding guns to their heads in an actual shooting position - eg business-end against their temples, in their mouths, or under their chins. I could have posted any one of them. But I posted the funny one.

Use your noodle as more than a place to grow hair, for crying out loud!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:24 PM

Do you suppose she thinks she dropped her cookie down there?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 12:21 AM

My entire presidency has just been a joke to entertain, c'mon you find my sleeziness and lack of mental faculties funny, don't you?? -Donald Trump

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 12:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you suppose she thinks she dropped her cookie down there?

Oooh, a fat joke, you've come a long way since Kindygarten.

Kiki is old and spends a lot of her time online. You realize you probably just made a fat joke to a not skinny woman, right?

Oh wait, I'm sure in other colder countries she's a model...

1KIKI

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 2:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
blah blah blah

fify

BTW, I actually know of someone who did what you see in the photo. She was a sweet little old black woman, many many years widowed, with an extremely Irish last name, who knew diddle-squat about guns. But there were break-ins in the area, so she dug out an old handgun her husband had left her, and checked to see if it was loaded. By looking down the barrel, if I have to be explicit.

FORTUNATELY, nothing bad happened, and the people there, who lived the floor above, told her to never, ever do that again, and always point the gun down at the floor, and never up.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

It's comforting to know what I can goad you to post.
After all, YOU are the one who thinks all of humanity can "rise above".

Massive hypocrite.

Nilbog.

Misery.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

BTW, I actually know of someone who did what you see in the photo. She was a sweet little old black woman, many many years widowed, with an extremely Irish last name, who knew diddle-squat about guns. But there were break-ins in the area, so she dug out an old handgun her husband had left her, and checked to see if it was loaded. By looking down the barrel, if I have to be explicit.

FORTUNATELY, nothing bad happened, and the people there, who lived the floor above, told her to never, ever do that again, and always point the gun down at the floor, and never up.

That bullshit story just gave me the warm fuzzies all over.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 10:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Nilbog.

Misery.

Limp-dicked, Brainlessville
Whocares, USA

1KIKI

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
That bullshit story just gave me the warm fuzzies all over.

Well, it's a TRUE story, and all your pretense to know otherwise are just lies you made up in your head in order to troll. Because you. just. can't. stop. yourself.

And jeeze wishy, you didn't think THAT was a little humerous? I did!

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

1KIKI

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:18 PM

Anyway ... back to the op.

There are significant discrepancies between the timeline and the narrative about it that we've gotten, that have yet to find a rational explanation. If anyone comes across one, please post it here.

tic tac

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you suppose she thinks she dropped her cookie down there?

Oooh, a fat joke, you've come a long way since Kindygarten.

Kiki is old and spends a lot of her time online. You realize you probably just made a fat joke to a not skinny woman, right?

Oh wait, I'm sure in other colder countries she's a model...

Maybe fatty was looking for the Patriarchy in there?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Friday, October 4, 2019 12:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Maybe fatty was looking for the Patriarchy in there?

Probably a good cure for Meth Mouth...

1KIKI

Friday, October 4, 2019 12:51 PM

I'm losing track. Wishy, are you recommending she blow her teeth out to cure meth mouth?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, October 7, 2019 1:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe fatty was looking for the Patriarchy in there?
Probably a good cure for Meth Mouth...

Nilbog.

Misery.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, October 7, 2019 1:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Anyway ... back to the op.

There are significant discrepancies between the timeline and the narrative about it that we've gotten, that have yet to find a rational explanation. If anyone comes across one, please post it here.

tic tac

Could you identify and itemize the discrepancies that you have detected? When time allows. I don't think I'd be able to sort them as well as you can, at this point.

Are there some with an irrational explanation, or are they all missing any attempt at explanation?

1KIKI

Monday, October 7, 2019 5:23 AM

There are two serious discrepancies.

One is that Zlochevsky was being investigated by the British for (presumably) moving corruptly-acquired Burisma money in 2014. But Zlochevsky had sold his Burisma ownership in 2011. (At the time, 2014, countries were BOLO for money being squirreled out of Ukraine by previous leaders and honchos, post-coup.) Since Zlochevsky wasn't the current Burisma ownder, and hadn't owned Burisma for years at that point, that leaves the investigation into Zlochevsky an obvious fake pretext.

The other is that Ukraine's top prosecutor Shokin was fired (the message famously delivered by Biden for his masters, the international investors) because he wasn't timely in providing Britain with information regarding the suspected Burisma / (not Zlochevsky) money laundering. But the case had been opened a year earlier and not been acted on by the existing Ukrainian chief prosecutor in all that time. And Shokin was chief prosecutor for at most 3 months, and as few as mere days, before Britain dropped its case. The failure wasn't Shokin's lack of response, it was the failure of the previous chief prosecutor that sunk the case. So why go after Shokin? (And in fact, going after anyone going after Zlochevsky was a total misdirect. At the time Burisma was owned by an western-favored oligarch Kolomoysky who was the main funder of Azov, the anti-Russian Nazi-based independent army.)

All of this smells like superficially plausible narratives cooked up and propagandized (repeated over and over without deviance and without a shred of evidence) to hide whatever was really going on at the time between the US/ international investors/ spook agencies/ and Ukraine.

But those 2 superficial narratives fall apart on the details of the facts, specifically, an examination of the timeline.

1KIKI

Wednesday, November 6, 2019 11:07 AM

https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-
obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

1KIKI

Friday, November 8, 2019 4:44 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ukrainians-pimped-hunter-bidens-se
at-leverage-obama-state-department

SIGNYM

Monday, November 11, 2019 11:22 PM

Hey KIKI, not sure if you have this already but Moon of Alabama is doing a timeline too .

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/11/a-timeline-of-joe-bidens-interve
ntion-against-the-prosecutor-general-of-ukraine.html

As I understand it, the whole thing (Burisma, Shokin, Poroshenko, Hunter Biden etc) is just what happens when you have competing oligarchs running a country.

Apparently, it's quite a "thing" in Ukraine to buy protection from politically-motivated investigation/prosecution by hiring connected people under whose wings you can operate. That's why Burisma "hired" Hunter Biden and also "hired" a polish politican who was friends with the-then Polish head of state/member of the Council of europe, in whose good graces Burisma also need to continue operating. (I'll get those names later, I hope.)

Anyway, as I understand it, Poroshenko wanted Shokin to investigate Burisma, not with the intent of cleaning up corruption but as part of an inter-oligarch feud. That's when Hunter Biden's connection to VP Biden came into play, because they actually managed to twist Poroshenko's arm into firing General Procurator Shokin and stop him from doing something that he was deeply interested in doing.

I learned this from The Duran. They seem to have insight into what's going on with that because one of them is a Cypriot, and Cypress is one of the major money-laundering connections for Ukraine (and other nations as well).

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, July 1, 2022 4:34 PM

Report: Biden unwittingly paid for Hunter’s frolics with Russian-linked escorts
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/27/hunter-bidens-frolics
-russia-linked-escorts-paid-j/

Let’s Talk Ukraine and Billions of Dirty Bucks
https://thehayride.com/2022/06/lets-talk-ukraine-and-billions-of-dirty
-bucks/

GMA speaks to Hunter Biden’s ex-wife about his addiction, business dealings, and the laptop: 'So much shame'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gma-speaks-hunter-bidens-ex-wife-addicti
on-business-dealings-laptop

GOP Rep. James Comer: Joe's voicemail to Hunter is 'further proof he knew about son's foreign deals'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10966711/GOP-Rep-James-Comer-
Joes-voicemail-Hunter-proof-knew-sons-foreign-deals.html

Joe Biden paid his son's bills for prostitutes - media
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/272601450/joe-biden-paid-his-son-b
ills-for-prostitutes---media

Grasping Hunter Biden met with oligarch pal of Putin who's now wanted for MURDER of two entrepreneurs shot dead
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10952609/Grasping-Hunter-Bide
n-met-oligarch-pal-Putin-wanted-MURDER-two-entrepreneurs.html

Joe Biden inadvertently helped Hunter pay Russia-linked escorts: report
https://nypost.com/2022/06/27/joe-biden-inadvertently-helped-hunter-pa
y-russia-linked-escorts-report/

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 24, 2023 1:14 AM

Hunter Biden lawyer files ethics complaint against Marjorie Taylor Greene after she flashes his X-rated pics at hearing

https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/hunter-bidens-lawyer-files-ethics-compla
int-against-marjorie-taylor-greene-after-she-flashes-his-x-rated-pics-at-hearing/

Breakdown of the biggest bombshells in the IRS whistleblower hearing on Hunter Biden special treatment

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12319521/Breakdown-biggest-bo
mbshells-IRS-whistleblower-hearing-Hunter-Biden-special-treatment.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, August 8, 2023 5:06 PM

An Oil-Rich Ally Tests Its Relationship With the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/08/world/middleeast/uae-russia-china-u
s.html

War in Ukraine: The effectiveness of sanctions called into question

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2023/08/06/war-in-ukraine-th
e-effectiveness-of-sanctions-called-into-question_6082439_23.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, September 6, 2023 2:41 PM

a new King they would not accept

https://seditiontracker.com/suspects/alexander-sheppard.html

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:40 AM

Update:

Today, Impeachment Inquiry is announced.