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"Russia" is OVER
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Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:47 PM
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What I meant was, nobody cares what I have to say.
FIFY, Second.
Oh come on Wishy. I thought we were starting to get along again.
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Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:55 PM
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You sure do post a f*ck ton for someone who doesn't care so much! If you don't count Kiki and SIGNUT's massive copy and pasting spam bombs, you post more than anyone on political and personal topics by a mile.
No one in real life is gonna listen to a blowhard. This is all he's got.
And Sig, too. I can't imagine too many people near her would listen to her "what did poor wittle Trump DO?" routine without trying to knock a few teeth out.
What I've got is actual research. Look at the FEC receipts for the NC 9th district election.
Where do you think the "journalists" that tell you what to think get the information they parse through before deciding what and how much they're going to show to you to paint the picture they want to paint?
Most of this stuff from money to polling methodology is made available to the public by law.
This is why I'm usually right about election results when everyone else has been wrong in the last 3 years. I do actual research. You read article headlines and maybe the first paragraph or two from partisan sources.
But by all means, keep being lied to, and get ready for another big surprise in 2020 when the "impossible" happens twice in a row.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody in NC's 9th District cared.
Still obviously wrong. YOU don't care.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Even though somebody paid big bucks for a DC firm to manage the candidacy and infuse $120,000 of the $5 Million Dem Dan "raised", mostly from out of state actors, compared to the less than $2 Million GOP Dan raised in what everyone agrees is a Republican district.
Yep - that's politics. Is that new to you? You realize that a Dem win would have helped Dems everywhere, right? I get where you say it seems like a conflict in terms of local representation, but there we are. I'm sure the GOP does it as well.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Despite all that, Dem Dan still lost. Not only did he lose, but he lost by more than 4 times the vote of the previous election where alleged fraud took place.
"Not only did he lose, but he lost by more than 4 times the vote of the previous election where alleged fraud took place."4 times the loss in an election THAT WAS THROWN OUT BECAUSE OF FRAUD. Damn, dude, it's right there in front of you. You really can't use those numbers from that with a straight face.
Do you know much about North Carolina, btw? A hardcore GOP state. Trump won that district by 12%, and yet GoP Dan won by only 2%, even with Trump stumping for his him right before the vote. Did you know that? You really that's a move in the right direction?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So contrary to the fake news that the WaPo, NYT and CNN are trying to paint this as signs of future trouble for Republicans, it was not only a huge win behind the scenes for the GOP, but compared to the extremely tight results of the "blew wave" of 2018 in District 9, the GOP has actually increased its win there since the mid-terms. It didn't even matter that Dems all over the country infused nearly 4 million dollars into a state legislature they should by all rights not have even cared about other than to push a narrative that they were unable to push after the results were in.
You don't seem to realize that a Dem win would have helped Dems everywhere, especially this early. Another reason why "nobody cares" is such unthinking on your part.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Even though somebody paid big bucks for a DC firm to manage the candidacy and infuse $120,000 of the $5 Million Dem Dan "raised", mostly from out of state actors, compared to the less than $2 Million GOP Dan raised in what everyone agrees is a Republican district.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Yep - that's politics. Is that new to you? You realize that a Dem win would have helped Dems everywhere, right? I get where you say it seems like a conflict in terms of local representation, but there we are. I'm sure the GOP does it as well.
The GOP does do it. I said so in the 2020 thread and even went a bit in depth about it. It's a huge problem and it should be barred.
My point in this particular case however is that Dem Dan "outraised" GOP Dan by 2 1/2 times, nearly all of that money from DC, NY, IL and CA and almost none of it coming from people within the state.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Despite all that, Dem Dan still lost. Not only did he lose, but he lost by more than 4 times the vote of the previous election where alleged fraud took place.
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4 times the loss in an election THAT WAS THROWN OUT BECAUSE OF FRAUD. Damn, dude, it's right there in front of you. You really can't use those numbers from that with a straight face.
Think about it for a second, buddy.
Let's say that it WAS fraud and that the previous GOP candidate did cheat. That would mean that 2018 was even closer than previously recorded, or even that the Democratic candidate actually won in 2018. Maybe even by more than GOP Dan won by in the special election now.
If that is the case, then this new election is even better news for the GOP since the vote spread was almost 4,000 votes in favor of GOP Dan.
If the fraud was real, my point is even stronger. Maybe GOP Dan got 5 to 10 times as many votes vs the Democratic candidate than the 2018 candidate did.
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Do you know much about North Carolina, btw? A hardcore GOP state. Trump won that district by 12%, and yet GoP Dan won by only 2%, even with Trump stumping for his him right before the vote. Did you know that? You really that's a move in the right direction?
I know all about those numbers.
I'm telling you to look at the FEC receipts and see that all of Dem Dan's support was from out of state and that a large DC firm called Prism Communications was paid off by somebody to not only handle his campaign but to infuse $120,000 of cash into his coffer.
Even with all of that outside help, Dem Dan couldn't win. The only thing they got for all that energy and money wasted was to be able to paint the false narrative you're regurgitating with your 12% vs 2% statistic and completely ignoring the money behind the scenes.
Also, why are you jumping from point A to point Z here?
We've already had the Blew Wave in 2018. Point A would be Trump's election in 2016. Point B would be the 9th District results that were thrown out because of alleged fraud and only a spread of 800 or so votes in GOP favor in 2018.
If there was no actual cheating in 2018, there was still roughly 3,000 more votes for the GOP in 2019 here than in 2018. If there was actually cheating going on, this spread might actually be 4,000, 5,000, 6,000, maybe more?
So Point Z would be the current election. Despite all the help Dem Dan got, the GOP pulled off a win here that was far beyond the necessity for a recount compared with the razor sharp margin of the 2018 vote.
You need to go from Point B to Point Z here. Not Point A to Z. Otherwise you're just lying to yourself and not taking into account that there was a shift here in the "wrong" direction since the mid-term Blew Wave.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 2:23 AM
Quote:Atrocity is Trump pissing in the punch bowl. And he had done it 546 times. Mike Pence is too sane to do such things, but not Trump.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDRATE: Do you know what an "atrocity" is? Killing a few hundred thousand people if feckless wars. Stop hyperventilating.
The Complete Listing (So Far): Atrocities 1-546
www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-5
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Friday, September 13, 2019 2:35 AM
I viewed this thread soon after it was posted. But 96 posts within 6 days was more than I could keep up with.
I hope this gem doesn't get lost in the weeds:
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I suppose this belongs here as well as anywhereQuote:AND NOW, ABOUT THAT "TROLL FARM"
Gen. Flynn’s Endgame Approaches
Brian Cates
Commentary
Having followed Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn’s perjury case from the beginning, it’s been apparent to me for some time that there are a lot of things in this case that just don’t add up. Strange occurrences abound.
Here are just some of the twists and turns in the case, which has gone on for more than three years.
1 Flynn’s trip to Russia in 2015, where it was claimed Flynn went without the knowledge or approval of the DIA or anyone in Washington, was proven not to be true.
2 Flynn was suspected of being compromised by a supposed Russian agent, Cambridge academic Svetlana Lokhova, based on allegations from Western intelligence asset Stefan Halper. This was also proven to be not true.
3 Flynn’s phone calls with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were framed as being incredibly shady and a potential violation of the Logan Act. This allegation was always preposterous.
4 Unnamed intelligence officials leaked the details of the Flynn-Kislyak phone calls to The Washington Post.
5 FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joseph Pientka were dispatched by Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe to interview Flynn at the White House, even though the FBI had already reviewed the transcripts of the calls and cleared Flynn of any crimes.
6 Both FBI Director James Comey and McCabe testified to Congress that Flynn didn’t lie.
7 Despite what McCabe and Comey both testified to under oath before Congress, the Mueller special counsel’s office decided to prosecute Flynn for perjury in November of 2017.
8 The very strange post-dated FD-302 form on the FBI’s January 2017 interview of Flynn that wasn’t filled out until August 2017, almost seven months afterward, is revealed in a court filing by Flynn’s defense team.
9 FBI agent Pientka became the “DOJ’s Invisible Man,” despite the fact that Congress has repeatedly called for him to testify. Pientka has remained out of sight and out of mind more than a year and a half since his name first surfaced in connection with the Flynn case.
10 Judge Rudolph Contreras was removed from the Flynn case immediately after accepting Flynn’s guilty plea and was replaced by Judge Emmit Sullivan.
11 Sullivan issued what’s known as a Brady order to prosecutors–which ordered them to immediately turn over any exculpatory evidence to Flynn’s defense team. Flynn’s team then made a filing alleging the withholding of exculpatory evidence.
12 Flynn was given a chance to withdraw his guilty plea by Judge Sullivan but refused, and insisted to go forward with sentencing.
13 Flynn suddenly fired his lawyers for the past two years and hired Sidney Powell to lead his new legal team following special counsel Robert Mueller’s disastrous testimony to Congress. And now, the latest startling development:
14 Flynn filed to have the Mueller prosecution team replaced for having withheld exculpatory evidence, despite Sullivan having directly ordered them to hand any such evidence over months ago.Quote:
Now, it’s not that far-fetched of an idea that the Mueller special counsel prosecutors would hide exculpatory evidence from the Flynn defense team, since they’ve just admitted to having done exactly that in another case their office has been prosecuting.
The defense team for Internet Research Agency/Concord, more popularly known as “the Russian troll farm case,” hasn’t been smooth going for the Mueller prosecutors.
First, the prosecution team got a real tongue-lashing from Judge Dabney L. Friedrich in early July, when it turned out they had no evidence whatsoever to prove their assertion that the Russian troll farms were being run by the Putin government.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 4:09 AM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let's say that it WAS fraud and that the previous GOP candidate did cheat. That would mean that 2018 was even closer than previously recorded, or even that the Democratic candidate actually won in 2018. Maybe even by more than GOP Dan won by in the special election now.
Gotta admit he haz a point here, CC.
Insted uv doing a second election, they shoud hav just given it to the real winner. Save a bunch uv money & time and prevent the cheaterz from cheating agen.
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If that is the case, then this new election is even better news for the GOP since the vote spread was almost 4,000 votes in favor of GOP Dan.
You dont need to keep saying 'if'. They conducted an outrite fraudulent operation. The guy iz in jail or on hiz way. Gil Tee! The only problem iz that the crybaby candidate totally knew about it, but did not get tossed in the slammer.
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If the fraud was real, my point is even stronger. Maybe GOP Dan got 5 to 10 times as many votes vs the Democratic candidate than the 2018 candidate did.
That gets diluted by how much effort they were able to put into it this time. If the Demz had a clue on how to fite the bad guyz, they woud hav sent Michelle Obama to stump for their guy. She woud hav squashed Trump like a bug!!!!
The REAL takeaway from that iz wuts rong with theze sheepl?
Their voting system wuz tampered with by the GoP but they still vote for them?
To the tune uv the Chef Boy R D commercial:
My voterz hav a first name, its C H U M P... sorry thats all I got. Get that jingle guy to finish it.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 9:51 AM
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If the fraud was real, my point is even stronger. Maybe GOP Dan got 5 to 10 times as many votes vs the Democratic candidate than the 2018 candidate did.
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That gets diluted by how much effort they were able to put into it this time.
GOP Dan? What effort? Trump came and did a single rally?
Dem Dan had $5 million bucks on his hands for this election and Prism Communications from DC backing him (which is likely where a ton of that out of state funding came from).
GOP Dan had $2 million bucks. GOP Dan also put a quarter of a million of that into the campaign through personal funds. Dem Dan didn't put up any of his money. He didn't have to.
Maybe if Dem Dan spent the full $5 Million instead of sitting on nearly half a million unspent bucks he would have gotten that last 4,000 votes he needed to win?
If I were you, I would track closely what happens to that money. Would be a shame if everybody just lets him pocket it and be on his merry way.
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If the Demz had a clue on how to fite the bad guyz, they woud hav sent Michelle Obama to stump for their guy. She woud hav squashed Trump like a bug!!!!
I'm sure she would have come out and gave a 30 minute speech for half a million bucks.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 7:07 PM
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The GOP does do it. I said so in the 2020 thread and even went a bit in depth about it. It's a huge problem and it should be barred.
My point in this particular case however is that Dem Dan "outraised" GOP Dan by 2 1/2 times, nearly all of that money from DC, NY, IL and CA and almost none of it coming from people within the state.
So? I guess it was that important to try and win that election - seems people cared in spite of what you think.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Think about it for a second, buddy.
Let's say that it WAS fraud and that the previous GOP candidate did cheat. That would mean that 2018 was even closer than previously recorded, or even that the Democratic candidate actually won in 2018. Maybe even by more than GOP Dan won by in the special election now.
If that is the case, then this new election is even better news for the GOP since the vote spread was almost 4,000 votes in favor of GOP Dan.
If the fraud was real, my point is even stronger. Maybe GOP Dan got 5 to 10 times as many votes vs the Democratic candidate than the 2018 candidate did.
Hardly. Fraud is fraud - you can't use fraudulent numbers as a benchmark up or down. And maybe because of those "numbers" the fraud was better this time as Jo suggested? Sh*t, even Trump suggested a near miracle rebound by his boy from way back to winning. You trust Trump, right? "Miracle?" You also have no idea what difference in GOP turn out it might have caused because the last one was Fraud.
Bottom line - to suggest that a 2% win in a district that has gone GOP since the 60's...and in a district that Trump won by 12%.... and with a Republican President stumping for him... you have to be lying to yourself at the very least.
No worries - I know you'll just ignore all those facts. That's like your super power.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know all about those numbers.
I'm telling you to look at the FEC receipts and see that all of Dem Dan's support was from out of state and that a large DC firm called Prism Communications was paid off by somebody to not only handle his campaign but to infuse $120,000 of cash into his coffer.
Even with all of that outside help, Dem Dan couldn't win. The only thing they got for all that energy and money wasted was to be able to paint the false narrative you're regurgitating with your 12% vs 2% statistic and completely ignoring the money behind the scenes.
Who cares how much money was raised or who's money it was? You can spend money poorly. You can also lose easily no matter how much you spend in a district that has been Republican since the 60's. I give them credit for trying.
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You don't seem to realize that a Dem win would have helped Dems everywhere, especially this early. Another reason why "nobody cares" is such unthinking on your part.
How exactly would it have helped? A single seat when Democrats are nowhere near a super-majority? Especially when the 3rd District also had an election on the same night and the GOP blew the Dem candidate out of the water with very little news coverage.
I'll answer that for you. It would have allowed these "news" outlets to continue to push their narrative that the GOP is in trouble in 2020.
You'll answer it for me?? I think you answered it for you, actually.
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Looking at all of their headlines regarding the race, it seems that losing this even though the deck was heavily stacked in their favor...
No president backing him, never won since the 60's... yup, so heavily stacked for them. You're just talking out of your @ss again for like the 5th time in the same post.
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Friday, September 13, 2019 8:47 PM
Yeah. I'm really getting bored of talking to the equivalent of a child and their circular logic. I'm really just trying to keep the four or five of you from completely snapping when it all happens again a year from now.
I'll just ignore you on this topic for now and laugh when 2020 comes and goes, Trump is still president by a larger margin than last time, Trump replaces Ginsberg with another Supreme Court Justice and impeachment is still talked about but never goes anywhere.
If the Dems make the mistake of keeping her on life support for too much longer, Trump won't even have to put a barely Righty Justice up there before his re-election.
How's that illegal alien thing working out? Not like you'd hoped?
I'm a fan of the recent SCOTUS ruling. I don't imagine that guns are going to go anywhere for at least a generation either.
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