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"Russia" is OVER

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:57 AM

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Russiagate has political questions: Is it serious enough to jail Trump? -SLOPPY
FOR WHAT?

For NOT colluding with Russia?
For firing a guy who was stabbing him in the back?
For being the victim of an immense internationally-coordinated surveillance campaign and psyop?

You say it's all about his taxes and yet you keep mouth breathing about RUSSIA!!! Jeezus, SLOPPY. Can't you get one side of your brain to agree with the other?

Meanwhile ....

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'One America News' Claims Defamation In $10 Million Lawsuit Against Rachel Maddow

It looks as though liberals may never learn that just because they disagree with someone's opinion, it doesn't automatically make them a tool of the Russian government. And leading the charge of liberals disseminating Russiagate nothingburgers, of course, continues to be Rachel Maddow.

Conservative television network One America News (OAN) is suing Rachel Maddow for $10 million after she referred to the network as "paid Russian propaganda". OAN filed the defamation suit in federal court in San Diego, according to AP. OAN is a small, family owned conservative network that is based in San Diego and has received favorable Tweets from the President. It is seen as a competitor to Fox News.

OAN's lawsuit claims that Maddow's comments were retaliation after OAN President Charles Herring accused Comcast of censorship. The suit said that Comcast refuses to carry its channel because “counters the liberal politics of Comcast’s own news channel, MSNBC.”

It was about a week after Herring e-mailed a Comcast executive when Maddow opened her show by referring to a Daily Beast report that claimed an OAN employee also worked for Sputnik News, which has ties to the Russian government.

Maddow said: “In this case, the most obsequiously pro-Trump right-wing news outlet in America really literally is paid Russian propaganda.

Yep. They're Russian trolls! Except ... not.

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Their on-air U.S. politics reporter is paid by the Russian government to produce propaganda for that government.”

Except Maddow, likely still upset from spending 3 years trying to promulgate a Russian hoax that didn't exist, didn't quite get her facts straight. Big surprise.

OAN said in its lawsuit that while reporter Kristian Rouz was associated with Sputnik News, he worked solely as a freelancer for them and was not a staff employee of OAN. And the lawsuit includes a statement from Rouz stating that while he has written some 1,300 articles over the past 4 and a half years for Sputnik, he has "...never written propaganda, disinformation, or unverified information.”

Skip Miller, OAN's attorney stated:

“One America is wholly owned, operated and financed by the Herring family in San Diego. They are as American as apple pie. They are not paid by Russia and have nothing to do with the Russian government. This is a false and malicious libel, and they’re going to answer for it in a court of law.”

The lawsuit included an August 6th letter from an NBC Universal attorney who stated that "OAN publishes content collected or created by a journalist who is also paid by the Russian government for writing over a thousand articles. Ms. Maddow’s recounting of this arrangement is substantially true and therefore not actionable."

We'll see about that.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/one-america-news-claims-defamation
-10-million-lawsuit-against-rachel-maddow



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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:31 AM

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Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Great. Like I've said before, he ain't my daddy.

I like how things are going now though, compared to the previous administrations 8 years. So I'm in no hurry to see his tax returns for the next 5 years.

After that, by all means, lock up the entire Trump family in the same cell that was supposed to be housing the Clinton family today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Russiagate has political questions: Is it serious enough to jail Trump? Or only serious enough to switch in Pence and allow Trump to go back to his annual tax cheating? The Republican Senators and Trump voters don't want to ask the questions. But tax cheating is not political and does not necessarily mean jail for Trump. It could simply mean . . . Trump finally pays what he always owed. I think he'd be a better President if he'd just pay and stop the constant lying about everything, including where his tax returns are, whether he promised to make the returns available, did the Russians help him get elected, will he balance the budget, hurricanes (not) in Alabama, and the Clintons.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:42 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Great. Like I've said before, he ain't my daddy.

I like how things are going now though, compared to the previous administrations 8 years. So I'm in no hurry to see his tax returns for the next 5 years.

After that, by all means, lock up the entire Trump family in the same cell that was supposed to be housing the Clinton family today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Russiagate has political questions: Is it serious enough to jail Trump? Or only serious enough to switch in Pence and allow Trump to go back to his annual tax cheating? The Republican Senators and Trump voters don't want to ask the questions. But tax cheating is not political and does not necessarily mean jail for Trump. It could simply mean . . . Trump finally pays what he always owed. I think he'd be a better President if he'd just pay and stop the constant lying about everything, including where his tax returns are, whether he promised to make the returns available, did the Russians help him get elected, will he balance the budget, hurricanes (not) in Alabama, and the Clintons.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump Keeps Lying About Hurricane Dorian and Alabama: A Closer Look

Maybe I should make my opinion clear? Trump is off his rocker. What's not to love about that? Who in the GOP wants Mike Pence as President when they can have four more years of Trump?



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:08 AM

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Originally posted by second:

Maybe I should make my opinion clear?



We know. You don't like Trump. lol



P.S.

N.C.'s 9th district wasn't the referendum on Trump you were hoping for.


P.P.S. GOP won N.C.'s 3rd district too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:34 AM

The irony of SECOND posting that Trump is "nuts" isn't lost on me.

It's almost as funny as WISHY posting about "What idiots possible think".

Sometimes life is just funny.




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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The irony of SECOND posting that Trump is "nuts" isn't lost on me.

It's almost as funny as WISHY posting about "What idiots possible think".

Sometimes life is just funny.


Me, who should not be President, thinks Trump should not be President. That is not irony. What is ironic is the constant drumbeat from Trump apologists that this Russia scandal is "OVER". The news is always moving on to the next scandal, but that doesn't mean the previous 100 scandals are "OVER". It means that the legal system, which happens to be the GOP controlled Senate, cannot process the previous scandals. By process, I mean fire Trump, since he is off his rocker, and replace him with Mike Pence, who is steady, sane, and loyal to America.

I've got a story about how slowly the legal system handles people who are off their rocker. This is from yesterday:
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For the first time in five years, Karla Haskell on Tuesday saw her son from the witness stand as she testified at his murder trial.

The last time was in July 2014, before he left her home in California, drove to Texas and executed six members of the Stay family in Spring.

The mother scarcely looked at Ronald Haskell, 39, for long. Referring to him as Ronnie — like she always has — she described his altogether pleasant childhood and assured the jurors that she would always love him.

But a darker thread emerged in her story as defense attorneys attempted to get to the root of Haskell's mental illness. Karla Haskell told jurors that Ronald's life crumbled after his wife and four children left him in 2013, culminating in an assault on his mother and the slaying of the Stays one week later.

"I just knew he was falling apart," she said. "His world was falling apart."

It will take at least as long as this murder trial for Trump's trial(s) to start. Maybe longer, because Trump has friends in the legal system. He might die before a trial of the wacky things he has done, including my favorite Trump crime, income tax evasion. Remember, Haskell is "innocent" of murder until proven guilty. In the same sense, Trump is "innocent".
www.houstonchronicle.com/houston/article/Ronald-Haskell-s-mother-testi
fies-in-capital-14429751.php


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Godz - I couldn't have said it any better. Someone play the Close Encounters scale. Sometimes choosing the unpopular side makes a person feel gutsy and unique and in control, livin' on the edge with the cool kids. Here's a tell so big it needs it's own zip code: "Too funny, SIX! Like Soph, but ... older! "



This is called people being normal human beings.

We actually have, yanno, personalities and we regularly interact with each other about non political things and real life stuff we actually have control over.



That's how it starts, dude - classic, "I'm just a regular person just like you..." Next you'll get a small favor to do. You haven't been pm'd yet have you? You should read about Carter Page's early recruitment efforts. It's hilarious and unclassified. Turns out Americans are very trusting and and make for great targets.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Unlike the little political circle jerk you guys got going on when you pile on other people together because the only thing you have in common is your authoritarian political points of view.



Authoritarian? You don't know what the word means, obviously.

I have maybe conversed directly with Wish 5 times in total since this board was created. And that's pretty typical of the other people who share a similar political pov with. No pms either. Can you say the same?
Whereas you are a frequent participant in one of the longest running self help threads on this forum. That one's a circle jerk, son.

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:12 PM

The reason why I say you're nuts, SECOND, is because you'll post that it's TAXES!* and right after that you'll post that it's RUSSIA!!** and then right after that you'll post some other made-up shit.

*The IRA is auditing Trump. Neither you nor I have any evidence that Trump cheated on his TAXES! that is merely your fantasy assumption

** Trump has been thru the wringer on RUSSIA!! Not only is there no evidence that he colluded with Russia, there is significant evidence that this whole thing was an internationally-coordinated covert operation against Trump and a giant psyop against the American people. And yet, you still post that Trump should go to jail for it.

You'd be a lot more credible if you would stop focusing on delusions and start focusing on the real problems with Trump and the Trump administration, instead of carrying on with this private vendetta that you seem to have with the Party of Nixon (which itself is kind of moronic because it was Johnson that ramped up the war in Vietnam and Nixon that got us out).

Meet me over here President Trump: good, bad, and ugly http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61325 and let's talk about reality.


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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The reason why I say you're nuts, SECOND, is because you'll post that it's TAXES!* and right after that you'll post that it's RUSSIA!!** and then right after that you'll post some other made-up shit.

*The IRA is auditing Trump. Neither you nor I have any evidence that Trump cheated on his TAXES! that is merely your fantasy assumption

** Trump has been thru the wringer on RUSSIA!! Not only is there no evidence that he colluded with Russia, there is significant evidence that this whole thing was an internationally-coordinated covert operation against Trump and a giant psyop against the American people. And yet, you still post that Trump should go to jail for it.

You'd be a lot more credible if you would stop focusing on delusions and start focusing on the real problems with Trump and the Trump administration, instead of carrying on with this private vendetta that you seem to have with the Party of Nixon (which itself is kind of moronic because it was Johnson that ramped up the war in Vietnam and Nixon that got us out).

Meet me over here President Trump: good, bad, and ugly http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61325 and let's talk about reality.

Did you read the article "It's nearly impossible to track all the scandals swirling around Trump"?
www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/politics/donald-trump-scandals/index.html

Mitch McConnell, in the Senate, needs to tell Trump to either fix his White House or else McConnell will, with the Democrats, dump Trump for Mike Pence. McConnell won't because Kentucky voters would dump McConnell, but it is obvious that Trump is off his rocker while Pence has all his marbles.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Godz - I couldn't have said it any better. Someone play the Close Encounters scale. Sometimes choosing the unpopular side makes a person feel gutsy and unique and in control, livin' on the edge with the cool kids. Here's a tell so big it needs it's own zip code: "Too funny, SIX! Like Soph, but ... older! "



This is called people being normal human beings.

We actually have, yanno, personalities and we regularly interact with each other about non political things and real life stuff we actually have control over.



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That's how it starts, dude - classic, "I'm just a regular person just like you..." Next you'll get a small favor to do. You haven't been pm'd yet have you? You should read about Carter Page's early recruitment efforts. It's hilarious and unclassified. Turns out Americans are very trusting and and make for great targets.



Wow. Paranoid much.

To what ends, man? What are they recruiting me for? Who would possibly pay two individuals to be posting on a website that nobody but a dozen or so people still visit to recruit them for some nefarious purpose? Or is it three? Is Brenda also on the payroll already, or is she just a sucker like me?

Maybe you could do me a favor here and tell me exactly what they'd be going after me for?

I've got no money. If nothing else, I've made that abundantly clear.

I've never been on a plane, and I never intend on getting on one unless the day comes where I cross going to New Zealand off my bucket list. CA is not New Zealand, so if they ever need any help with anything in person they're going to have to come to me. This is also something that's very well known since I've said quite a few times that anywhere I've ever sat down I've never been more than 250 miles away from that spot.

Okay... so how about help with some online Russian scheme? Well... I can't imagine I'd be any help there either. I don't do Facebook or Twitter. I have a YouTube page, but everything is set to private.

The only possible thing I could think of would be trying to get me to support any alleged legal action that is going to be taken against anybody here for libel. Well, guess what buddy? I've already voiced my opinion on that MANY times and I'm STRONGLY AGAINST any such action from anybody here.

You'll probably also notice that Kiki and I are still prone to get into arguments outside of the garden and rain thread on certain things that I don't suppose we're ever going to change each other's minds on.


So.... Social Engineering in the RWED? Seriously dude, WTF would somebody recruit me for? To argue against half a dozen people who are never going to change their mind on anything?

I can't tell whether this delusion of yours is mistakenly putting far to much value on me as an asset, or it's just putting far too much value on your own opinions on the world.


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Unlike the little political circle jerk you guys got going on when you pile on other people together because the only thing you have in common is your authoritarian political points of view.



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Authoritarian? You don't know what the word means, obviously.


I absolutely do. And if you yourself haven't come out with any authoritarian statements, you have never come out against any of your comrades here that have. Specifically, "Bash the Fash" Marcos, the insanity that has come out of Wishy's mouth the greater part of last few years or Second's constant calls for the assassination of the President, or telling me specifically that if he were in my shoes he would have already murdered his bosses and taken all of their money. Even T has spoke out against Second for this rhetori

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