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Thursday, August 8, 2019 7:49 AM

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Oh BTW SECOND - I still don't believe you. - SIGNY

Experts on media violence told us that in the United States, a clearer risk factor for such events is the availability of guns.

“The single most obvious and probably largest difference between a country like the US that has many mass shootings and other developed countries is the easy access to guns,” Duke psychology and neuroscience professor Kenneth A. Dodge, one of the authors of the 2015 APA report, told us.

Baloney. Almost every male citizen in Switzerland owns a gun because of their citizen militias. The problem isn't guns, it's idiots like you and TWITCHY

Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

The National Rifle Association often points to Switzerland to argue that more rules on gun ownership aren't necessary. In 2016, the NRA said on its blog that the European country had one of the lowest murder rates in the world while still having millions of privately owned guns and a few hunting weapons that don't even require a permit.

But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.

Business Insider took a look at the country's past with guns to see why it has lower rates of gun violence than the US, where gun death rates are now at their highest in more than 20 years.

More at www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 8, 2019 2:46 PM

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The Killers in Our Midst
Nearly all mass shooters have been young men alienated from society.
By The Editorial Board
Aug. 4, 2019 6:46 pm ET

Which brings us back to the angry young men. This is the one common element in nearly all mass shootings: 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz in Parkland, Fla.; Chris Harper-Mercer in Oregon’s Umpqua Community College; Adam Lanza at Newtown, Conn.; Devin Patrick Kelley in Sutherland Springs, Texas, and the rest. All were deeply troubled and alienated from society in our increasingly atomistic culture.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-killers-in-our-midst-11564958792]




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Suspect in El Paso massacre ‘didn’t hold anything back’ in police interrogation

Leigh Ann Locascio, a former neighbor, said Crusius was an extreme loner who always sat alone on the bus in junior high and high school. He spoke negatively of other kids who played sports or joined the school band, she said. She described Crusius as “very much a loner, very standoffish” and someone who “didn’t interact a whole lot with anyone.”

Her son, Tony Locascio, walked to school regularly with Crusius and his sister. Tony Locascio said Patrick Crusius only walked ahead of or behind them, never interacting and always keeping to himself. Crusius liked animals and kept pet snakes. “He wouldn’t talk to people,” Tony Locascio said. “No one really knew him.”

Another former classmate, Jacob Wilson, said Crusius was “very strong-minded” in class and would try to “take charge,” but other kids refused to work with him because he was “irritable and had a short temper.” He was often “picked on” because of how he spoke, and because he wore what looked like hand-me-down clothes, Wilson said.

Wilson, who is now 20 and works in his family’s scrap-metal recycling business, said he was in English class with Crusius during their senior year, and the taunts from other kids during class seemed relentless. “Every time I looked up in class,” Wilson said, “it was someone new speaking negatively to the kid, ‘Patrick that is dumb, stupid.’”

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-03/what-we-know-abo
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Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:06 PM

I wonder if Crusius had undiagnosed Aspberger's syndrome.

https://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/aspergers_syndrome_social_a
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Thursday, August 8, 2019 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I wonder if Crusius had undiagnosed Aspberger's syndrome.

https://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/aspergers_syndrome_social_a
nd_emotional_issues

Switzerland hasn't had a mass shooting since 2001, but the Swiss have every mental disease known in America. Why don't diseased Swiss minds go on killing sprees with automatic weapons, like they do in America? Because Swiss laws are designed to prevent anyone who is violent or incompetent from owning a gun, while American laws only prevent people with no cash from owning a gun.
www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-
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Thursday, August 8, 2019 4:43 PM

Trying to compare Switzerland and the US and come up with one single reason why it's different is pretty crazy. The US and Switzerland really have nothing in common. Too many variables.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:31 PM

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Trying to compare Switzerland and the US and come up with one single reason why it's different is pretty crazy. The US and Switzerland really have nothing in common. Too many variables.

Fuck variables. How about the change in 2005 to laws by Republicans? All the Nay votes against the atrocity called the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" came from Democrats:

Last week, the gun-maker Remington, which had annual sales of approximately $600 million in 2017, asked the Supreme Court to overturn a Connecticut decision that gave Sandy Hook families the ability to sue the company over the way it marketed the weapon used in the 2012 school massacre.

The ability to bring suits against gun manufacturers would give American citizens a powerful tool to hold gun-makers liable for the damage their weapons cause—much as cigarette companies were vulnerable to suits for the harms of tobacco. It’s not clear whether John Roberts’ court will take the case, and if it does, whether it will side with the families or uphold protections that gun-makers have enjoyed since the Bush administration.

At issue is a 2005 law called the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" (PLCAA), which gives gun manufacturers and dealers immunity from the vast majority of lawsuits that could be brought as a result of crimes committed with their firearms. NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre called it “the most significant piece of pro-gun legislation in twenty years.”

He was right that the law would be a boon to gun manufacturers and dealers. Federal appeals courts in New York and California concluded that the law precluded lawsuits under New York and California law. Federal courts in D.C. and Colorado—along with state courts in Alaska, Illinois and Missouri—also held that the law barred suits against the gun industry.

But the Connecticut case dramatically expanded an exception to the PLCAA. Earlier this year, the Connecticut Supreme Court ruled in a 4-3 decision that the estates of victims of the Sandy Hook massacre could sue the manufacturer of the assault rifle used by the man who murdered them under state law because it advertised its product in a manner that could promote mass shootings, such as its slogan, “Forces of opposition, bow down. You are single-handedly outnumbered.”

Remington asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the decision.

More at www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/05/gun-control-supreme-court-2
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Now that I think of it, the name "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" should be changed to "Sell More Semi-Automatic Rifles to the Crazy Act". The Swiss don't sell to the crazy, but being crazy is no obstacle to an American buying a rifle. Only being too poor to buy will stop Americans from exercising their Second Amendment right. Here is a hint: when asked by gun dealers if you are crazy, tell them no. That hint works only in America, but not in Switzerland.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:03 PM

Crusuis' purported manifesto

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About Me

In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural [culture] and ethnic [culture] replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously,

My response to Disney's Pocahontas was that the if the natives wanted to survive they should have started shooting (arrows) and kept on shooting until there was not a single person left to take word back of the bountiful land across the ocean. But that's just me.
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and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political [politics] and economic [economy] reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.

In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, [NOT TRUMP] have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. [economy, loss of individual agency] I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important. Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship and more to enact a political coup by importing and then legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the Democrats is all it would take for them to win nearly every presidential election. Although the Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Procorporation = pro-immigration. [economy, corporations, exploitation] But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it. At least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.

Economic Reasons

In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. [economy, loss of jobs] Some sources say that in under two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to the highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in itself is a source of civil unrest. The less dependents on a government welfare system,

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Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

https://thecount.com/2019/08/03/patrick-crusius-manifesto-full-transcr
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So now you don't have to rely on the media to tell you what Crusius was (purportedly) thinking.

It doesn't matter, and never will, what crazy people think. It matters that a Republican Congress passed a law and a Republican president signed it to make it easy to sell semi-automatic rifles to crazy people.

Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act
www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/senate-bill/397
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Ac
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:25 PM

Dayton OH shooter, Conner Betts

Just excerpting his social media comments from a longer opinion piece

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While Betts, the Dayton shooter, didn’t leave behind a manifesto, his extensive social-media footprint provides clues as to what may have inspired him. Federal investigators announced Tuesday that they are looking into his exploration of violent ideologies.

Betts had long expressed support for antifa accounts, causes and individuals. That would be the loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of “anti-fascism.” In particular, Betts promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement.

“Kill every fascist,” 2018 on twitter,

“Nazis deserve death and nothing else,” he tweeted last October.

Betts frequently flung the label “Nazi” at those with whom he disagreed online.

Sounds like anyone we know???

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In ­response to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, “Yes, Let’s Defeat or Impeach Trump—but What If He Doesn’t Leave the White House?” the shooter wrote: “Arm, train, prepare.”

“I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding.” June 2019

Last month, an antifa militant firebombed an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Tacoma, Wash. Police say Willem van Spronsen was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack. His gun had apparently malfunctioned before he could fire. In his manifesto, he called for his “comrades” to take up arms in confronting the ascendant fascism of the state. In one of Betts’ tweets ­before he extinguished the lives of nine fellow Americans, he responded to a person asking if van Spronsen had been a “villain or martyr?”

Betts flatly replied: “martyr.”


https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass
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The Twitter account painted a picture of a left-wing anarchist and discontent, very far from the anti-immigration manifesto posted by Saturday’s El Paso gunman.

“Vote blue for gods sake,” he wrote last Nov. 2. On the day of the senator’s death, Betts wrote “F—k John McCain.”

Though he had a fascination for guns, Betts also was a fan of gun control and blamed Republicans for school shootings.

“This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to kill,” he wrote in December, and on the day of the Parkland, Florida, school shooting, he tweeted at Sen. Rob Portman: “hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?”

In reference to the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, he wrote “you can’t kill 50+ people and injure 600(!) In 10 minutes with cigarettes my dude.”

Politically, Betts was on the far left. His pinned Top Tweet was a retweet of someone else’s claim that “Millennials have a message for the Joe Biden generation: hurry up and die.”

When another Twitter user posted a picture of Ms. Warren and 2020 Democratic presidential rival Kamala Harris and asked “co-Presidents?” Betts poured scorn.

“Nahh, but only cuz Harris is a cop - Warren I’d happily vote for,” he replied.

When noting that alt-right demonstrators were marching in Charlottesville, a rally that later ended in the death of Heather Heyer, he exhorted his followers: “Kill every fascist.”

According to Heavy, Betts also shared posts about “concentration camps” at the border and wrote, “Cut the fences down. Slice ICE tires. Throw bolt cutters over the fences.”

His profile specified his preferred pronouns as “he/him.”

As of Sunday, Dayton police said they had no proof of Betts‘ motive.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/4/connor-betts-ohio-gunman
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Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Dayton OH shooter, Conner Betts

Just excerpting his social media comments from a longer opinion piece

Signym, I have to repeat because you are crazy: No opinion of a crazy person is worth analyzing. What is worth paying close attention to is the semi-automatic rifle owned by the crazy person and the act of a Republican Congress protecting the rights of gun dealers to sell to the crazy: "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Ac
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In that law, the Republicans mandated "safety" locks be included with weapons. I feel so much "safer" but I'm pretty sure the key to the lock is given to the crazy person who made the purchase so that the weapon could be used at Walmart. Just remember to not be so crazy as to forget to unlock your semi-automatic rifle before pulling the trigger.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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