Mueller's testimony

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:23 AM

Brutal. In so many ways.

Russia 1, US 0

THG

Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:26 AM

I disagree. That said, they should've done the questioning in reverse. Hearing two should have been first. It highlights the importance of what was revealed in hearing one.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Brutal. In so many ways.

Russia 1, US 0

Explain.

Without any context it just sounds like the countdown clock to Trump's impeachment broke again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Brutal. In so many ways.

Russia 1, US 0

Explain.

Without any context it just sounds like the countdown clock to Trump's impeachment broke again.

I don't have the time or the desire to catch you up on what is obvious. Besides, Trump fans will continue to:

A) Hate the Dems
B) Suk Trump dik.

Which one are you? < / trick question >

Brutal because Mueller is showing signs of early dementia and the GOP is full of flaming arseholes.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I disagree. That said, they should've done the questioning in reverse. Hearing two should have been first. It highlights the importance of what was revealed in hearing one.

I don't see any change, T. If there's no impeachment then what's the point of all of this? To give MSM something to act all excited about and fill their shows with? The Report was issued, people read it or didn't, most didn't. Nothing has changed. I appreciate your optimism but I don't share it. Trump's a piece of sh*t and has broken laws and hasn't paid for a single one and likely will not until 2020.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:45 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I don't see any change, T.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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If there's no impeachment then what's the point of all of this? To give MSM something to act all excited about and fill their shows with?

Sure. That's only something I've been telling you for 2 years now.

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The Report was issued, people read it or didn't, most didn't.

I'm sure you did.

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Nothing has changed.

Trump's popularity is rising.

Although the Democrats and polls laughably are setting you guys up for another huge cry when Trump wins again in 2024.

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I appreciate your optimism but I don't share it. Trump's a piece of sh*t and has broken laws and hasn't paid for a single one...

Name one.

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and likely will not until 2020.

You mean at least 2024.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Thursday, July 25, 2019 5:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I disagree. That said, they should've done the questioning in reverse. Hearing two should have been first. It highlights the importance of what was revealed in hearing one.

I don't see any change, T. If there's no impeachment then what's the point of all of this? To give MSM something to act all excited about and fill their shows with? The Report was issued, people read it or didn't, most didn't. Nothing has changed. I appreciate your optimism but I don't share it. Trump's a piece of sh*t and has broken laws and hasn't paid for a single one and likely will not until 2020.

I think once you start to see condensed clips from the hearings you'll change your mind.

tick tock

T

AURAPTOR

Thursday, July 25, 2019 5:33 AM

Category of worst performance ever on the political stage :

" Who am I and why am I here ? " - Admiral Stockdale.

Robert Mueller *laughs * Hold my beer and watch this …

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:17 AM

Adam Schiff, the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, ended the hearing with a clear, precise exchange with Mueller.

Schiff, in his closing questions to Mueller, asked if “knowingly accepting assistance from a foreign government,” to which Mueller responded “a crime.”

Schiff continued, adding that if knowingly accepting assistance from a “foreign government during a presidential campaign is an unethical thing to do.”

“And a crime in certain circumstances,” Mueller responded.

Schiff continued: “To the degree that it undermines our democracy and our institutions, we can agree that it’s also unpatriotic.”

“True,” Mueller replied, in a rare instance of directly answering a question outside the confines of the report.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Category of worst performance ever on the political stage :

" Who am I and why am I here ? " - Admiral Stockdale.

Robert Mueller *laughs * Hold my beer and watch this …

Jordan, Gohmert, and Gaetz ripped the pathetic fool to shreds today, exposing him as nothing more than an incompetent and biased political hack. As had been predicted the Democraps really screwed the pooch having Mueller testify.

Like Rudy's dad said upon entering Notre Dame Stadium .. "This is the most beautiful sight these eyes have ever seen!"

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:40 AM

Lieu: "The reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opinion stating you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?"

Mueller: "That is correct."

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1154047372911140869

Demmings: "Isn’t it fair to say that the president’s written answers were not only inadequate and incomplete because he didn’t answer many of your questions, but where he did his answers showed he wasn’t always being truthful."

Mueller: "I would say, generally."

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1154110475313057792

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:47 AM

IMPEACH!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
IMPEACH!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There is a happy medium between impeach and doing nothing.

Schiff: "We should hold our elected officials to a standard higher than mere avoidance of criminality, shouldn't we?"

Mueller: "Absolutely"

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154110711993212928

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
IMPEACH!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)
There is a happy medium between impeach and doing nothing.

Schiff: "We should hold our elected officials to a standard higher than mere avoidance of criminality, shouldn't we?"

Mueller: "Absolutely"

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154110711993212928

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Sounds like doing nothing to me.

Explain to me why you think otherwise.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:10 AM

I'd love to see what a 2 year, 25 million dollar investigation of Schiff or Mueller dug out of their closets. (Or any politician or high ranking government employee for that matter).

My guess is that we'd have to impeach the whole f'kin government.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
IMPEACH!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)
There is a happy medium between impeach and doing nothing.

Schiff: "We should hold our elected officials to a standard higher than mere avoidance of criminality, shouldn't we?"

Mueller: "Absolutely"

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154110711993212928

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Sounds like doing nothing to me.

Explain to me why you think otherwise.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Three words: John Hinckley Junior. That is my idea of the happy medium for Trump. Or if you want less bloodshed in a happy medium, the House could audit Trump's tax returns. The House once did that to Nixon and it cost him half of his net worth to pay the taxes owed. I would be pleased if Trump had to pay half of his net worth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan

www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
IMPEACH!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)
There is a happy medium between impeach and doing nothing.

Schiff: "We should hold our elected officials to a standard higher than mere avoidance of criminality, shouldn't we?"

Mueller: "Absolutely"

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154110711993212928

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Sounds like doing nothing to me.

Explain to me why you think otherwise.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Three words: John Hinckley Junior. That is my idea of the happy medium for Trump. Or if you want less bloodshed in a happy medium, the House could audit Trump's tax returns. The House once did that to Nixon and it cost him half of his net worth to pay the taxes owed. I would be pleased if Trump had to pay half of his net worth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan

www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

So to make this clear.

Your idea of a happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing is assassination?

That is what you're saying. Correct?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:45 AM

SECOND is treading on dangerous territory

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:46 AM

For posterity the

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
IMPEACH!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)
There is a happy medium between impeach and doing nothing.

Schiff: "We should hold our elected officials to a standard higher than mere avoidance of criminality, shouldn't we?"

Mueller: "Absolutely"

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154110711993212928

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Sounds like doing nothing to me.

Explain to me why you think otherwise.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Three words: John Hinckley Junior. That is my idea of the happy medium for Trump. Or if you want less bloodshed in a happy medium, the House could audit Trump's tax returns. The House once did that to Nixon and it cost him half of his net worth to pay the taxes owed. I would be pleased if Trump had to pay half of his net worth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan

www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:36 AM

You guys are going to be mighty disappointed when Horowitz and Durham complete their investigations.

Russiagate is a hoax created by corrupt parts of the intelligence agencies in the USA, Britain, Australia and Ukraine, plus corrupt heads of media and the worst parts of the DNC.

This isn't a "win" for Russia, this was just the deep state shooting itself in the foot.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

JO753

Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:02 AM

So far, the Demz are playing the part uv the Washington Generalz - lame, incompetent, underwelming.

But the Republicanz are definitely not the Harlem Globe Trotterz! The only dazzling they do iz dazzling stoopidity.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
So far, the Demz are playing the part uv the Washington Generalz - lame, incompetent, underwelming.

But the Republicanz are definitely not the Harlem Globe Trotterz! The only dazzling they do iz dazzling stoopidity.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

Do you really think this is as small as Democrats versus Republicans?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

WISHIMAY

Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I would be pleased if Trump had to pay half of his net worth.

Hold on....-3 million minus -1.5 million = still nothing. He's a con man, remember?? Wanna have him break rocks until it is paid? Perform sexual favors on Putin?? Oh wait, that's how he got elected...

WISHIMAY

Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Russiagate is a hoax created by corrupt parts of the intelligence agencies in the USA, Britain, Australia and Ukraine, plus corrupt heads of media and the worst parts of the DNC.

Get out the monkey
Get out the cup
Get out the Hurdy Gurdy
....then churn out lying bot crap 'til we all throw UP!

JO753

Thursday, July 25, 2019 1:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Do you really think this is as small as Democrats versus Republicans?

No.

(howz that for a Mueller impression?)

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So to make this clear.

Your idea of a happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing is assassination?

That is what you're saying. Correct?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Incorrect. Reagan was not assassinated. He only took a bullet, then he finished his term in office. That is why I used John Hinckley Jr., not John Wilkes Booth, as my example.

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-hinckley-freed-mental-hospital-35-ye
ars-after-reagan-assassination-n646076

Since you won't click the link, I will summarize: Hinckley is a free man and living in Williamsburg, Virginia. I wonder what he thinks of Trump? No newspaper has dared to ask him.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 25, 2019 5:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Do you really think this is as small as Democrats versus Republicans?

No.

(howz that for a Mueller impression?)

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

If Mueller is a person you really want to immitate (altho why you'd want to do that is beyond me, the poor guy looked confused) you should hve posted "It's beyond my purview"

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 5:58 PM

Adam Schiff’s Devastating Indictment Of Trump’s ‘Disloyalty To Country’

Schiff: The president has said over and over that your report totally exonerated him. Did it?

MUELLER: No. The president has been lying to the American people.

Schiff: The president has said over and over that your report found no evidence of obstruction. Was he correct?

MUELLER: No. The president has been lying to the American people.

Schiff: The president has said over and over that your report found no evidence of collusion. Is that a fair reading?

MUELLER: No. The president has been lying to the American people.

Schiff: The president has said over and over that your office was conducting a witch hunt. True?

MUELLER: No. The president has been lying to the American people.

I haven’t used quotation marks above, but that’s what it boils down to.

Watch or read Adam Schiff’s seven minutes

https://twitter.com/ProudResister/status/1154091739197521920

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/read-adam-schiffs-devastating-
indictment-of-trumps-disloyalty-to-country

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:09 PM

T

Former special prosecutor Robert Mueller tells US lawmakers that his report on Russia election interference does not exonerate Donald Trump, as the president has repeatedly asserted.

THG

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:16 PM

T

Highlights From Robert Mueller's Judiciary Committee Testimony

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:17 PM

Mueller’s verbal dryness, amid the florid grandstanding and indignant rhetoric of his questioners, was like the rustling pages of an old book. Whenever a questioner tried to put words in his mouth, he said something like “I’m not certain I agree with your characterization.” I like the perfect reserve of that sentence, which could mean anything between “I respectfully beg to differ” and “Fuck you.” You can put Mueller on television, but, apparently, you can’t make him do television.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's only something I've been telling you for 2 years now.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure you did.

I'm sure you didn't.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump's popularity is rising.

From bad to not so bad?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Although the Democrats and polls laughably are setting you guys up for another huge cry when Trump wins again in 2024.

I already said he would - pay attention.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Trump's a piece of sh*t and has broken laws and hasn't paid for a single one...

Name one.

Obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power, Witness tampering, Campaign Finance... let's see, is 4 more than 1?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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and likely will not until 2020.

You mean at least 2024.

For sure in 2024. If he's re-elected in 2020, then after he leaves office in 2024 he will no longer be protected by the office and he will be prosecutable by people outside of the weak @ss Democrats, and will most likely go straight to f*cking jail. Better late than never.

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
. . . after he leaves office in 2024 he will no longer be protected by the office and he will be prosecutable by people outside of the weak @ss Democrats, and will most likely go straight to f*cking jail. Better late than never.

Never is when Trump goes to jail. Since Trump won't admit fault, will fight publicly, has appointed thousands of Trump-friendly judges, has tens of millions of Trump-friendly jurors who will never vote guilty, and can afford to litigate for decades, he won't be in jail before he dies from dementia.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:10 PM

T

Robert Mueller Acknowledged Criminal Conduct By Trump Camp

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
. . . after he leaves office in 2024 he will no longer be protected by the office and he will be prosecutable by people outside of the weak @ss Democrats, and will most likely go straight to f*cking jail. Better late than never.
Never is when Trump goes to jail. Since Trump won't admit fault, will fight publicly, has appointed thousands of Trump-friendly judges, has tens of millions of Trump-friendly jurors who will never vote guilty, and can afford to litigate for decades, he won't be in jail before he dies from dementia.

You have your Hinkley dream, I have my prosecution post WH Trump in an Orange jumper dream. Besides, we both know he'd be pardoned by President Pence anyway.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So to make this clear.

Your idea of a happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing is assassination?

That is what you're saying. Correct?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Incorrect. Reagan was not assassinated. He only took a bullet, then he finished his term in office. That is why I used John Hinckley Jr., not John Wilkes Booth, as my example.

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-hinckley-freed-mental-hospital-35-ye
ars-after-reagan-assassination-n646076

Since you won't click the link, I will summarize: Hinckley is a free man and living in Williamsburg, Virginia. I wonder what he thinks of Trump? No newspaper has dared to ask him.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

So to make this clear.

Your ideal situation, your happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing is an attempted assassination?

That is what you're saying, correct?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump's popularity is rising.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
From bad to not so bad?

Bad? He's nearly at 50 percent. With the keys to the white house that he's collecting, 47% should be more than enough to ensure he wins again.

Buckle up, buttercup. In today's political climate, I think the best that any president can ever hope for the rest of our lives is just a little north of 50%.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Although the Democrats and polls laughably are setting you guys up for another huge cry when Trump wins again in 2024.

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I already said he would - pay attention.

Yet you said that he's going to be prosecuted after 2020. Confused much?

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Trump's a piece of sh*t and has broken laws and hasn't paid for a single one...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Name one.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power, Witness tampering, Campaign Finance... let's see, is 4 more than 1?

Okay. Now show me where he was tried and convicted on any of these ALLEGED crimes.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
and likely will not until 2020.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You mean at least 2024.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:For sure in 2024. If he's re-elected in 2020, then after he leaves office in 2024 he will no longer be protected by the office and he will be prosecutable by people outside of the weak @ss Democrats, and will most likely go straight to f*cking jail. Better late than never.

Oh. FOR SURE in 2024, if...

But, I thought...

Didn't you say that since Hillary Clinton isn't a politician anymore she is old news and nobody should care about her anymore? Once Trump is out of office it doesn't work like that. Huh?

lol

You just need to let it go man. Nobody is ever going to go after the Clintons. After Trump is out of office, nobody is ever going to go after the Trumps.

I find it very telling that you seem to be a-okay with Second's "Hinkley dream". This is at least the 5th time Second has brought up the topic of assassination in the RWED, and several times even suggested he'd like to do it himself and knows how to get away with it.

At least T has the decency to call Second out on that. Or at least he did in the past.

Look what you guys are becoming.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But, I thought...

Didn't you say that since Hillary Clinton isn't a politician anymore she is old news and nobody should care about her anymore? Once Trump is out of office it doesn't work like that. Huh?

lol

You just need to let it go man. Nobody is ever going to go after the Clintons. After Trump is out of office, nobody is ever going to go after the Trumps.

Remember Benghazi? Was it 7 or more times they tried to get her for that? Hate to blow your fantasy, but just like Benghazi, she hasn't done anything. Besides, you Trump monkeys are so well trained just hearing her name makes you jump - mission accomplished.

Whereas Trump is guilty as sh*t. Did you see those 4 crimes I listed? Just don't want to look?

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I find it very telling that you seem to be a-okay with Second's "Hinkley dream". This is at least the 5th time Second has brought up the topic of assassination in the RWED, and several times even suggested he'd like to do it himself and knows how to get away with it.

At least T has the decency to call Second out on that. Or at least he did in the past.

Look what you guys are becoming.

Funny thing - I was going to reply to that comment of his by saying that would only make the divide in this country even greater, which would only play into Putin's hands. Just didn't, mainly because I doubt second would care what I or anyone here had to say about what he said. He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who looks to others for advice - so why bother?

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So to make this clear.

Your ideal situation, your happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing is an attempted assassination?

That is what you're saying, correct?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Incorrect. I'd be just fine with Trump falling down the stairs at the White House and V.P. Pence taking over for the brain-damaged Trump. Or Trump falling down the steps of Air Force One, with the same results. Or Trump not wearing a hardhat, with the same results. I did mention Congress auditing Trump's tax returns would satisfy me. That would also cause Trump brain damage. Do you see where this is going? Trump must live, but be diminished forever and know it in his wheelchair.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:10 PM

Trump melted down when told Mueller warned that he could be indicted
https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1154351648715792385

If he was innocent, he wouldn't freak out on camera.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

So to make this clear.

Your ideal situation, your happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing is an attempted assassination?

That is what you're saying, correct?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Incorrect. I'd be just fine with Trump falling down the stairs at the White House and V.P. Pence taking over for the brain-damaged Trump. Or Trump falling down the steps of Air Force One, with the same results. Or Trump not wearing a hardhat, with the same results. I did mention Congress auditing Trump's tax returns would satisfy me. That would also cause Trump brain damage. Do you see where this is going? Trump must live, but be diminished forever and know it in his wheelchair.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I suggest that you choose your words more carefully in the future.

Particularly when it comes to things like this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Friday, July 26, 2019 3:13 AM

Anyone in this thread ( or the USA, for that matter ) who offers a micron of credibility to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler truly is a witless fool and a useful idiot.

Mueller showed the world this is undeniably a scam investigation and that the REAL criminals are now being sought after via the I.G.

Clinton committed perjury as a sitting President. He was stripped of his law license.

Trump literally did nothing wrong or criminal, at all.

Only 5 1/2 more years y'all.

THG

Friday, July 26, 2019 4:54 AM

T

Mueller Busts Team Trump's Crimes, Then Dubs Trump 'Unpatriotic

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, July 26, 2019 6:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Anyone in this thread ( or the USA, for that matter ) who offers a micron of credibility to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler truly is a witless fool and a useful idiot.

Mueller showed the world this is undeniably a scam investigation and that the REAL criminals are now being sought after via the I.G.

Clinton committed perjury as a sitting President. He was stripped of his law license.

Trump literally did nothing wrong or criminal, at all.

Only 5 1/2 more years y'all.

Why did he lie about wanting to build a tower in Moscow? Just curious.

SECOND

Friday, July 26, 2019 8:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I suggest that you choose your words more carefully in the future.

Particularly when it comes to things like this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election (it did), whether Trump benefited (he did), and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern (he did). All of that was laid bare on Wednesday for anyone who was listening. Trump campaign members were exchanging polling data with Russian intelligence operatives and hosting meetings at Trump Tower in order to obtain “dirt” on Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Trump was lying about all the Russia contacts before he was even caught lying about it.

Mueller was originally charged with investigating Russian efforts to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. Only later was he tasked with figuring out whether the president had obstructed justice by impeding that investigation. The whole point of this sad affair — lost entirely on a Law & Order nation intent on seeing either Trump in handcuffs or exonerated — was that Russia hacked an election, that it is right now hacking the next election, and that this is a threat to national security and representative democracy. On this one point, Mueller was emphatic: “They’re doing it as we sit here, and they expect to do it in the next campaign.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, July 26, 2019 11:38 AM

Quote:
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election

No evidence.

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whether Trump benefited

No

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and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern

Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Friday, July 26, 2019 4:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election
No evidence.
Quote:
whether Trump benefited
No
Quote:
and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern
Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.

Signym, the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded Thursday that election systems in all 50 states were targeted by Russia in 2016, an effort more far-reaching than previously acknowledged and one largely undetected by the states and federal officials at the time.
www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volum
e1.pdf

Trump equates any public discussion of malign Russian election activity with questions about the legitimacy of his victory.

While the Senate Intelligence Committee’s findings were bipartisan, they came on a day when Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader, moved again to block consideration of election security legislation.

More at www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/us/politics/russian-hacking-elections.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, July 26, 2019 7:03 PM

SECONDRATE, you're a dyed-in-the-wool nutbag. There are two allegations of Russian "interference" in our election

1) The Kremlin-based Internet Research Agency (IRA). The IRA's case is being decided in court, even as we post. So far, Mueller's "case" against the IRA is so evidence-free that the presiding judge, Judge Dabney Freidrich, has banned Mueller, BY COURT ORDER, from even insinutating that the IRA had Kremlin connections. She deemed such utterances as "prejudicial". This isn't the only time when Mueller flubbed thi case. There are too many citations for this ruling, but here are just a few

Quote:
In Major Blow to Mueller, Federal Judge Rebukes Mueller and DOJ For Falsely Claiming ‘Russian Bot Farm’ Linked to Russian Government

In Major Blow to Mueller, Federal Judge Rebukes Mueller and DOJ For Falsely Claiming ‘Russian Bot Farm’ Linked to Russian Government
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/21/robert-mueller-william-
barr-rebuked-judge-case-rus/

Judge Shreds Mueller ‘Evidence’ Of Kremlin Meddling
https://nationandstate.com/2019/07/11/judge-shreds-mueller-evidence-of
-kremlin-meddling/

So, no evidence so far of Russian "meddling" through this troll farm.

2) Wikileaks publication of DNC/ Podesta emails. Assange told the press that he had the emails BEFORE Guccifer2.0 ever contacted him. Mueller never talked to Assnge.

Mueller never talked to Assange. Mueller never examined the DNC servers. The only "evidence" that Mueller can come up with is from Crowdstrike, an anti-Russian DNC-paid contractor. Once again, the "evidence" that Mueller points to evporates on examination.

Now, I haven't spoken to a lawyer on the matter of inernet libel. But hey, you're the guy with the big bucks. Why don't you consult with your lawyers and check out your legal exposure? You might find out something interesting. (Oh, I see you post-edited you calling me a "Russian troll". Maybe you DID talk to a lawyer!

)

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Friday, July 26, 2019 7:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDRATE, you're a dyed-in-the-wool nutbag. There are two allegations of Russian "interference" in our election.

Signym, yesterday the Senate said you are full of shit.
www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volum
e1.pdf

The report, black lines and all, is titled “Russian Efforts Against Election Infrastructure.” It is the first volume the committee has publicly released, following more than 200 witness interviews and the collection and review of nearly 400,000 documents. Subsequent volumes will deal with Russia’s effort to use social media to influence voters — an area where Russian interference may have changed minds, and thus votes — and the 200 or so contacts between Russia and members of the Trump campaign.

In a statement, Senator Richard M. Burr, Republican of North Carolina and the chairman of the committee, described the events of 2016 as one in which the United States was blindsided.

“In 2016, the U.S. was unprepared at all levels of government for a concerted attack from a determined foreign adversary on our election infrastructure,” Mr. Burr wrote. “Since then, we have learned much more about the nature of Russia’s cyberactivities and better understand the real and urgent threat they pose.”

Source: https://pressfrom.info/us/news/politics/-303090-russia-targeted-electi
ons-systems-in-all-50-states-report-finds.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, July 26, 2019 7:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election
No evidence.

Tons of evidence, so much evidence the evidence has evidence.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
whether Trump benefited
No

He so totally benefitted. He won after all. My gawd he owes Russia biggly!

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern
Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.

Yep, but keep trying to sell the Russian strategy of "make them doubt the reality of everything."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, July 26, 2019 10:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I suggest that you choose your words more carefully in the future.

Particularly when it comes to things like this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election (it did), whether Trump benefited (he did), and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern (he did). All of that was laid bare on Wednesday for anyone who was listening. Trump campaign members were exchanging polling data with Russian intelligence operatives and hosting meetings at Trump Tower in order to obtain “dirt” on Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Trump was lying about all the Russia contacts before he was even caught lying about it.

Mueller was originally charged with investigating Russian efforts to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. Only later was he tasked with figuring out whether the president had obstructed justice by impeding that investigation. The whole point of this sad affair — lost entirely on a Law & Order nation intent on seeing either Trump in handcuffs or exonerated — was that Russia hacked an election, that it is right now hacking the next election, and that this is a threat to national security and representative democracy. On this one point, Mueller was emphatic: “They’re doing it as we sit here, and they expect to do it in the next campaign.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

That's not relevant to what you quoted Second. I'm talking about you.

If you don't feel that assassination is the happy medium between impeachment and doing nothing, then you shouldn't say it. Multiple times. Sometimes even saying how much you would enjoy being the one to do it and that you know how you could get away with it too.

Even if you really do feel that way, I suggest you stop saying it. Even if nobody is watching you, you just come off as unhinged every time you bring it up and discredit any other opinions you hold about anything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, July 26, 2019 11:21 PM

SECONDRATE, the Senate is full of shit. My very own Senators are full of shit. A billion flies eat shit too.

Dianne Feinstein, former head of the Senate Intelligence (ahem!) Committee, wrote to me "I know things" and assured me that Saddam had WMD. Nearly the entire Senate voted for the war in Iraq. They voted for the so-called Patriot Act. Do you think that I'd let THEM decide for me what's real and what isn't? They couldn't find their ass with both hands hands and a flashlight.

Oh and btw- you're full of shit too.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Friday, July 26, 2019 11:28 PM

Quote:
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election- SECOND
No evidence. -SIGNY
Tons of evidence, so much evidence the evidence has evidence.- CC

LIKE??? BE SPECIFIC. Quotes and links please.

Quote:
whether Trump benefited - SECOND
No - SIGNY
He so totally benefitted. He won after all. My gawd he owes Russia biggly!- CC

If there was no "help" then there was no "benefit". Show me where the Russian "helped" Trump. BE SPECIFIC. quotes and links please

Quote:
and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern - SECOND
Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.- SIGNY
Yep, but - CC

BE SPECIFIC. what did Trump do? When did he do it? Quotes and links please

You're so used to handwaving and thinking in generalties that you've forgotten there is a REAL real world out there. I want to see actual helpful quotes from this troll farm that occurred BEFORE the election (not afterwards), evidence of their impact (yanno, like in hundreds of thousands of votes), evidence that this so-called troll farm was getting its orders from the Kremlin (and wasn't just a marketing click-bait operation), real evidence that "Russia" gave Assange the DNC emails, not the say-so of some DNC-hired contractor, etc. Something solid, not the vapor that you usually spew. Draw those dots, makes those links. Make the best case that you can. Do some real internet resarch for a change, and not just passing the same gas that Rachel Madcow passed every day for years. Go! Fetch!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

THG

Saturday, July 27, 2019 12:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Anyone in this thread ( or the USA, for that matter ) who offers a micron of credibility to Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler truly is a witless fool and a useful idiot.

Mueller showed the world this is undeniably a scam investigation and that the REAL criminals are now being sought after via the I.G.

Clinton committed perjury as a sitting President. He was stripped of his law license.

Trump literally did nothing wrong or criminal, at all.

Only 5 1/2 more years y'all.

Why did he lie about wanting to build a tower in Moscow? Just curious.

T

SECOND

Saturday, July 27, 2019 12:17 AM

Mueller made it clear that his largest concern is with Russia’s extraordinary effort to disrupt U.S. democratic processes. As he put it, “The Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion.”

On one of the rare occasions when he went beyond his role as a lawyer, he said this:

"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government’s effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. And as I said on May 29, this deserves the attention of every American."

In his report and testimony, Mueller depicts the Trump campaign not as conspiring or coordinating with Russia, but as enthusiastically welcoming its efforts.

Republicans in the Senate have twice in 24 hours blocked the advancement of bills aimed at strengthening election security just hours after former special counsel Robert Mueller warned of the continued threat that foreign powers interfering in US elections.

Russian state TV experts and pundits were pleased. Olga Skabeeva happily stated: “Zero people blamed Russia for election interference — zero times!” And she added later: “We’re officially laughing at their allegations of election interference.”

In keeping with the tradition of Russian state television, Skabeeva lied: “We didn’t interfere in anything and even Mueller said so.” Mueller did not say so.

More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2019/07/25/what-deserves-the-attentio
n-of-every-inattentive-american/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Saturday, July 27, 2019 1:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Mueller made it clear that his largest concern is with Russia’s extraordinary effort to disrupt U.S. democratic processes. As he put it, “The Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion.”

On one of the rare occasions when he went beyond his role as a lawyer, he said this:

"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government’s effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. And as I said on May 29, this deserves the attention of every American."

In his report and testimony, Mueller depicts the Trump campaign not as conspiring or coordinating with Russia, but as enthusiastically welcoming its efforts.

Republicans in the Senate have twice in 24 hours blocked the advancement of bills aimed at strengthening election security just hours after former special counsel Robert Mueller warned of the continued threat that foreign powers interfering in US election

bullshit

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, July 27, 2019 2:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Mueller made it clear that his largest concern is with Russia’s extraordinary effort to disrupt U.S. democratic processes. As he put it, “The Russian government interfered in our election in sweeping and systematic fashion.”

On one of the rare occasions when he went beyond his role as a lawyer, he said this:

"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government’s effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. And as I said on May 29, this deserves the attention of every American."

In his report and testimony, Mueller depicts the Trump campaign not as conspiring or coordinating with Russia, but as enthusiastically welcoming its efforts.

Republicans in the Senate have twice in 24 hours blocked the advancement of bills aimed at strengthening election security just hours after former special counsel Robert Mueller warned of the continued threat that foreign powers interfering in US election
bullshit

Cites, Links, Fetch!

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, July 27, 2019 2:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election- SECOND
No evidence. -SIGNY
Tons of evidence, so much evidence the evidence has evidence.- CC
LIKE??? BE SPECIFIC. Quotes and links please.

Quote:
whether Trump benefited - SECOND
No - SIGNY
He so totally benefitted. He won after all. My gawd he owes Russia biggly!- CC
If there was no "help" then there was no "benefit". Show me where the Russian "helped" Trump. BE SPECIFIC. quotes and links please

Quote:
and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern - SECOND
Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.- SIGNY
Yep, but - CC
BE SPECIFIC. what did Trump do? When did he do it? Quotes and links please

You're so used to handwaving and thinking in generalties that you've forgotten there is a REAL real world out there. I want to see actual helpful quotes from this troll farm that occurred BEFORE the election (not afterwards), evidence of their impact (yanno, like in hundreds of thousands of votes), evidence that this so-called troll farm was getting its orders from the Kremlin (and wasn't just a marketing click-bait operation), real evidence that "Russia" gave Assange the DNC emails, not the say-so of some DNC-hired contractor, etc. Something solid, not the vapor that you usually spew. Draw those dots, makes those links. Make the best case that you can. Do some real internet resarch for a change, and not just passing the same gas that Rachel Madcow passed every day for years. Go! Fetch!

You don't even know when you're being mocked. Here's your response to second's well reasoned, linked post was:

"No, No, Nope" and now we can add "bullshit." Prove you're right - quotes, links, cites, fetch!

Instead, no links, no cites, not even a weakly argued point of view or broken logic as we've come to expect.
Remember, for you to be believed, you are asking us to believe that you think, "Russia would never try to hack our country" is true.

Maybe you're not a Russian Troll? Maybe you're just a Russian Clown?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Brutal. In so many ways.

Russia 1, US 0

Better get Kurt Russel on the phone.

He knows how to beat the Russians.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election- SECOND
No evidence. -SIGNY
Tons of evidence, so much evidence the evidence has evidence.- CC
LIKE??? BE SPECIFIC. Quotes and links please.

Quote:
whether Trump benefited - SECOND
No - SIGNY
He so totally benefitted. He won after all. My gawd he owes Russia biggly!- CC
If there was no "help" then there was no "benefit". Show me where the Russian "helped" Trump. BE SPECIFIC. quotes and links please

Quote:
and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern - SECOND
Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.- SIGNY
Yep, but - CC
BE SPECIFIC. what did Trump do? When did he do it? Quotes and links please

You're so used to handwaving and thinking in generalties that you've forgotten there is a REAL real world out there. I want to see actual helpful quotes from this troll farm that occurred BEFORE the election (not afterwards), evidence of their impact (yanno, like in hundreds of thousands of votes), evidence that this so-called troll farm was getting its orders from the Kremlin (and wasn't just a marketing click-bait operation), real evidence that "Russia" gave Assange the DNC emails, not the say-so of some DNC-hired contractor, etc. Something solid, not the vapor that you usually spew. Draw those dots, makes those links. Make the best case that you can. Do some real internet resarch for a change, and not just passing the same gas that Rachel Madcow passed every day for years. Go! Fetch!

You don't even know when you're being mocked. Here's your response to second's well reasoned, linked post was:

"No, No, Nope" and now we can add "bullshit." Prove you're right - quotes, links, cites, fetch!

Instead, no links, no cites, not even a weakly argued point of view or broken logic as we've come to expect.
Remember, for you to be believed, you are asking us to believe that you think, "Russia would never try to hack our country" is true.

Maybe you're not a Russian Troll? Maybe you're just a Russian Clown?

I want to know if you are honestly stupid enough to believe that Sigs and Kiki are Russian, or if you're just a dick.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Why did he lie about wanting to build a tower in Moscow? Just curious.

Don't know, don't care.

Trump made a living in building big buildings, so …

Why did The Clinton Foundation take 145 million from Russia and others connected to the UraniumOne deal, which Hillary as SecState had approved ?

Trump DIDN'T build a building, btw. Just like he DIDNT fire Mueller and DIDNT collude with any Russians nor obstruct justice ( Mueller's own conclusion )

SO fucking tired of this obvious shell game and assault of our legal system by crooked politicians and deep state thugs.

SECOND

Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

bullshit

I'm sure Trump and his people are bullshitting, and they know it, when they write:

Sarah Huckabee Sanders @Sarah Huckabee tweeted:
"Didn’t take long for Mueller to once again vindicate President @realDonaldTrump. No collusion. No obstruction. And now Mueller all but admits it was all along a total witch hunt"
https://twitter.com/SarahHuckabee/status/1154026851922272256

That was not what happened when Mueller testified to Congress. Then Trump had to completely and totally outdo Sarah Huckabee Sanders:

Breaking News Exclusive Interview With President Trump
President doubles down on lies, falsely calling Mueller Investigation 'Treason'

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I want to know if you are honestly stupid enough to believe that Sigs and Kiki are Russian, or if you're just a dick.

You are definitely mostly just a dick lately, no question on that. I chalk it up to your current situation - such is life.

Stupid? Are you stupid enough to think anyone here REALLY thinks those 2 are actual Russian agents? I've also spoken on that same question before, but you don't read or don't remember or are just being a dick again.
No question they are definitely trolls with a POV that aligns very closely to what an actual RT (ha!) would have. You make the call.

Here's a question for you that you will probably not answer: are you stupid enough to think Russia wouldn't try and hack our election again? Or our infrastructure, power plants etc.? I think most Trump fan wanks would answer like AU did, "Don't care," which is truly amazing. Head meet sand.

1KIKI

Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I want to know if you are honestly stupid enough to believe that Sigs and Kiki are Russian, or if you're just a dick.

You are definitely mostly just a dick lately, no question on that. I chalk it up to your current situation - such is life.

Stupid? Are you stupid enough to think anyone here REALLY thinks those 2 are actual Russian agents? I've also spoken on that same question before, but you don't read or don't remember or are just being a dick again.
No question they are definitely trolls with a POV that aligns very closely to what an actual RT (ha!) would have. You make the call.

Here's a question for you that you will probably not answer: are you stupid enough to think Russia wouldn't try and hack our election again? Or our infrastructure, power plants etc.? I think most Trump fan wanks would answer like AU did, "Don't care," which is truly amazing. Head meet sand.

1KIKI

Sunday, July 28, 2019 2:07 AM

The OP
Mueller's testimony

Except for the hyper-partisan, my sense is this has already faded from the public mind.

Poll: No impeachment bump after Mueller's testimony - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/26/poll-impeachment-mueller-143
7596
1 day ago - A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, conducted immediately after former special counsel Robert Mueller's congressional testimony, shows ...

Poll shows no rise in voter support for Trump impeachment after ... (references the poll above)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/.../poll-shows-no-rise-in-voter-sup
port-for-tru...
22 hours ago - Former special counsel Robert Mueller's marathon testimony on the Russia investigation did little to move the needle on support for

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

1KIKI

Sunday, July 28, 2019 3:42 AM

However, in the interests of making information available, here are multiple links to the transcripts and videos (in case select links are broken/ disabled)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/full-transcript-robert-muell
er-house-committee-testimony-n1033216

https://www.rev.com/blog/robert-mueller-testimony-transcript-house-con
gressional-testimony

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-of-robert-s-mueller
-iiis-testimony-before-the-house-intelligence-committee/2019/07/24/f424acf0-ad97-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html (House Intelligence)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-of-robert-s-mueller
-iiis-testimony-before-the-house-judiciary-committee/2019/07/24/7164abfe-ad96-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html (House Judiciary)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-muellers-full-testimony-be
fore-the-house-intelligence-committee
WATCH: Mueller’s full testimony before the House Intelligence Committee
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-muellers-full-testimony-be
fore-the-house-judiciary-committee
WATCH: Mueller’s full testimony before the House Judiciary Committee

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/07/24/robert_mueller_hous
e_judiciary_committee_house_intel_committee.html
Full Video: Robert Mueller Testimony To House Judiciary Committee, House Intel Committee

CNN

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

SIGNYM

Sunday, July 28, 2019 1:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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The question for Mueller has always been whether Russia interfered in an election- SECOND
No evidence. -SIGNY
Tons of evidence, so much evidence the evidence has evidence.- CC
LIKE??? BE SPECIFIC. Quotes and links please.

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whether Trump benefited - SECOND
No - SIGNY
He so totally benefitted. He won after all. My gawd he owes Russia biggly!- CC
If there was no "help" then there was no "benefit". Show me where the Russian "helped" Trump. BE SPECIFIC. quotes and links please

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and whether he tried to stymie the investigation into this concern - SECOND
Nope. But, yanno, keep convincing yourself.- SIGNY
Yep, but - CC
BE SPECIFIC. what did Trump do? When did he do it? Quotes and links please

You're so used to handwaving and thinking in generalties that you've forgotten there is a REAL real world out there. I want to see actual helpful quotes from this troll farm that occurred BEFORE the election (not afterwards), evidence of their impact (yanno, like in hundreds of thousands of votes), evidence that this so-called troll farm was getting its orders from the Kremlin (and wasn't just a marketing click-bait operation), real evidence that "Russia" gave Assange the DNC emails, not the say-so of some DNC-hired contractor, etc. Something solid, not the vapor that you usually spew. Draw those dots, makes those links. Make the best case that you can. Do some real internet resarch for a change, and not just passing the same gas that Rachel Madcow passed every day for years. Go! Fetch!

You don't even know when you're being mocked. Here's your response to second's well reasoned, linked post was:

"No, No, Nope" and now we can add "bullshit." Prove you're right - quotes, links, cites, fetch!

Instead, no links, no cites, not even a weakly argued point of view or broken logic as we've come to expect.
Remember, for you to be believed, you are asking us to believe that you think, "Russia would never try to hack our country" is true.

Maybe you're not a Russian Troll? Maybe you're just a Russian Clown?

Yanno, you fucking nitwit, I've already explained, in this very thread even! why I don't think that Russia "hacked" anything. But just so you can't say that I didn't explain it, I'm going to explain it AGAIN and point out the deficiencies in the Mueller report and maybe you'll get it this time. If not, it's not for lack of information:

Mueller made a series of allegations which are kind of stitched together into a loose narrative even tho no real connections were made

1) The DNC/Podesta emails were "hacked" by "Russia". This was reported by Crowdstrike, a DNC-paid anti-Russian organization with NO independent examination of the servers by the FBI. There were numerous files, terrabytes of data, and yet the NSA didn't manage to capture a single packet of that data moving online overseas.

2) A person named Guccifer2.0 claimed to have the files, and some Russian_based formatting marks were found in his files.

3) The insinution is that Guccifer 2.0 (a "Russian") gave the files to Julian Assange. However, Assange announced publically that he was going to publish files BEFORE Guccifer ever contacted him, and the meta-data of Assange's files indicates that they were transferred to a thumb drive, not transmitted online. Assange directly said that the files did not come from Russia or anyone related to Russia. And yet, Mueller never DID question Assange, just like the DNC servers were never examined. It looks a lot like a man who is trying hard NOT to dig up evidence that might weaken his "case", such as it was.

4) There is an organization called the "Internet Research Agency" which was credited with "help

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, July 28, 2019 10:35 PM

What a bore. Skipping 1-3 because it's pure deflection.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

4) There is an organization called the "Internet Research Agency" which was credited with "helping" Trump through social media. However, most of their content is ambiguous, equivocal, not related to either Trump OR Hillary, and much of it was posted AFTER the election.

5) This IRA troll-farm was claimed by Mueller to be directly linked to the Kremlin. However, there is NO evidence to back that up; the evidence is SO paltry that the presiding judge in the case forbade Mueller by court order from even insinuating that there was ANY connection to Putin. Eventually this will be decided in court. Are you going to claim that the presiding judge is a Russian troll too?

cites, links, quotes, fetch!

Aww, did you not read the indictment? The one that says, "starting as early as 2014..." Go! Find it!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
6) Russia supposedly had access to various election databases and in some instances could have altered the data, BUT DIDN'T.

And you know this how? cites, links, quotes, fetch!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not going to argue this with idiots anymore.

Jack and JSF will miss you.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh btw ... you belatedly admitting that you don't believe that I'm a Russian puts you even MORE firmly on the hook for defamation. Because if you KNEW I wasn't a paid Russian troll, which you have certainly called me often enough, then not only does that mean you called me something which was untrue, you called me something which YOU KNEW to be untrue, which is malicious. Okay, I do know you're a troll - fer shur.

I am so impressed with how stupid you are. I said I don't know what you are - said that all the way back to the Russia Invades Ukraine thread. How could anyone? You could be Reaverfans's sock puppet for all anyone knows. Okay, I do know you're a troll.

Wait a sec! All that typing and you didn't address this:
"Remember, for you to be believed, you are asking us to believe that you think, "Russia would never try to hack our country" is true."

Checkmate.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, July 28, 2019 11:20 PM

lol

Gotta love how nobody talked about Russia since the 80's until Hillary makes some comments about it in the debates and now all we've heard for 2 1/2 years is Russia after Hillary lost.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, July 28, 2019 11:20 PM

Checkmate

T

1KIKI

Sunday, July 28, 2019 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
1) The DNC/Podesta emails were "hacked" by "Russia". This was reported by Crowdstrike, a DNC-paid anti-Russian organization with NO independent examination of the servers by the FBI. There were numerous files, terrabytes of data, and yet the NSA didn't manage to capture a single packet of that data moving online overseas.

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https://www.wired.com/2017/01/fbi-says-democratic-party-wouldnt-let-ag
ents-see-hacked-email-servers/
FBI Says the Democratic Party Wouldn't Let Agents See the Hacked Email Servers
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alimwatkins/the-fbi-never-asked-f
or-access-to-hacked-computer-servers#.su1OoNAqJx
The FBI Never Asked For Access To Hacked Computer Servers
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dn
c.html
The D.N.C. immediately hired CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm, to scan its computers, identify the intruders and build a new computer and telephone system from scratch. Within a day, CrowdStrike confirmed that the intrusion had originated in Russia, Mr. Sussmann said.
The D.N.C. executives and their lawyer had their first formal meeting with senior F.B.I. officials in mid-June ... Among the early requests at that meeting, according to participants: that the federal government make a quick “attribution” formally blaming actors with ties to Russian government for the attack ... (NOTE: THE DNC REQUESTED THAT THE FBI MAKE A QUICK ATTRIBUTION TO RUSSIA, despite the fact that the FBI never examined the servers directly, but instead relied on the Crowdstrike report for all their information.)

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What a bore. Skipping 1-3 because it's pure deflection.

CHECKMATE

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, July 28, 2019 11:24 PM

To Captain and T:

I don't agree with much you guys have to say about anything regarding politics, and I think you're severely being mislead with the Russiagate stuff, but I did want to comment that I appreciate that you've more or less maintained your sanity through all of this.

Marcos, Second and Wishy have gone off the deep end and have become hard supporters of censorship, violence, murder and hate. While Wishy and Marco's focus with this seems rather nebulous, Second has twice this week advocated for the assassination of Trump (later backpedaling that he was just calling for an attempted yet failed assassination), and just today he's suggested that I murder my old boss and take all of his money (the second time he's told me to do this).

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Monday, July 29, 2019 2:02 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
2) A person named Guccifer2.0 claimed to have the files, and some Russian_based formatting marks were found in his files.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/15/us/politics/guccifer-russia-mueller
.html

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Originally posted by CEREALMUSH:
What a bore. Skipping 1-3 because it's pure deflection.

CHECKMATE

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, July 29, 2019 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Marcos, Second and Wishy have gone off the deep end and have become hard supporters of censorship, violence, murder and hate.

No they haven't - you just don't get it. Trump is a raging lying sack of shit x 1000 - a complete embarrassment to this country. And he keeps chipping off the few good parts that remain. I hope that fugger has heart attack and dies on the golf course after shooting his worst round of golf. If I believed in god I'd pray for that every day.

You keep not answering my simple questions. I'll narrow it to one to make it easy:

Do you really think Putin didn't and isn't going to f*ck with our elections? You try and present yourself as someone who knows a thing or 2 about computers but you seem incredibly, ridiculously, unbelievably naive about this stuff.

For some reason you and SHIT4BRAINS can't or refuse to answer that basic question.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 29, 2019 5:16 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Marcos, Second and Wishy have gone off the deep end and have become hard supporters of censorship, violence, murder and hate.

No they haven't - you just don't get it.

YES. THEY HAVE.

Second in particular has called for an assassination of Trump. Then this morning he told me that I should murder my old boss and steal everything he owns. This is at least the 6th time he's called for Trump's assassination, and even T is on the record here denouncing Seconds words. This is also the second time that he has told me that I should murder my old boss.

Every post that Wishy makes is dripping with hate and has recently delved into the territory of calling for violence.

Marcos is an antifa pig. Loud and proud.

Don't defend these people or their actions.

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Trump is a raging lying sack of shit x 1000

So was every politician ever. So what?

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- a complete embarrassment to this country.

A complete embarassment to the less than half of this country that didn't vote for him, maybe.

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And he keeps chipping off the few good parts that remain. I hope that fugger has heart attack and dies on the golf course after shooting his worst round of golf. If I believed in god I'd pray for that every day.

Be careful you don't take that a bit further. Prayer isn't violence. Wishing accidental or health related death on somebody is a shitty thing to do, but we already know that you're an asshole and that's not a crime.

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You keep not answering my simple questions. I'll narrow it to one to make it easy:

Do you really think Putin didn't and isn't going to f*ck with our elections? You try and present yourself as someone who knows a thing or 2 about computers but you seem incredibly, ridiculously, unbelievably naive about this stuff.

I already answered the question. I don't even believe in the legitimacy of the entire institution of elections after they went to machine voting. Why worry about Russia when I don't trust anybody in our own government on either side and the entire thing is just as hackable as our credit card and medical databases, if not even easier?

Fuck Putin. He can lick my balls.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, July 29, 2019 5:23 AM

Washington Post and many top Democraps now grudgingly agree that having Mueller testify was a disaster for them. Well duh!

"Mueller "stunt" backfired - big time"

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/07/26/wapo-house-dems-gr
udgingly-admit-mueller-stunt-backfired-big-time/

"Immeasurable harm to the left"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-msnbc-host-krystal-ball-msnbcs-russia
-conspiracies-have-done-immeasurable-harm-to-the-left

Hi-larious!

SECOND

Monday, July 29, 2019 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Second in particular has called for an assassination of Trump. Then this morning he told me that I should murder my old boss and steal everything he owns. This is at least the 6th time he's called for Trump's assassination, and even T is on the record here denouncing Seconds words. This is also the second time that he has told me that I should murder my old boss.

Trump's intelligence chief resigned after the White House repeatedly suppressed his warnings about Russian interference.
www.businessinsider.com/dni-dan-coats-quit-white-house-suppressed-russ
ia-warnings-nyt-2019-7
I'm thinking that Dan Coats had enough of Trump's lazy, do-nothing attitude toward the most difficult duties involved with the job of being President.

If Trump won't do his job, he can drop dead because V.P. Mike Pence will be available and can do what Trump won't. By the way, 6ix, if you can't deal with the tiny stresses of your little life, from raccoons to rotting wood steps, drop dead. I know there is no Vice President of 6ixStringJack affairs (or a spouse or children) to immediately step forward and take over your responsibilities, but what are those responsibilities, anyway? Oh, now that I think of it, you don't have any. Feel free in the future if you ever work again to beat some sense into your awful bosses in exchange for better pay. If the bosses fight back, what is the worst that could happen to you? Be unemployed? You are already there. Lose your wife and kids or even you dearly loved pets? Don't have any. Get arrested by the police? Free room and board for you, you have said. There is really no downside for you to go violent and break the laws, except for losing the right to vote for Trump in 2020. Make America Great Again, 6ix!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, July 29, 2019 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by second:
By the way, 6ix...

Ok, that is a tad harsh. Thankfully I know you're just busting his chops in the typical man-to-man RWED way. Least you could do is add a wink emoji!

I think I know where you're going from, though. Jack's a bit of a pisser, ain't he? I hope his prideful stubbornness doesn't last. He seems immune to people that want to help him, goes in the opposite direction. Crazy, he actually reminds me of me at one point in my life. The way I got out of my social blackhole was by giving up in a way. I said, "f*ck it, I'm going to loose my ego and just LISTEN to what others have to say." And I was more forgiving of myself, took a vacation from being self critical. I lowered expectations across the board, as well, for everyone. Everyone got a blank check from me, "be whoever you want, no judgement."
The moment I did that it was like an enormous weight was lifted, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

Whoops! Did I type that on the board?!?

Best of luck with your house BS, Jack. It can drive a person nuts, right?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 29, 2019 9:31 PM

It's actually not that bad most days. I'm making headway. Once I get the place cleared out and cleaned up I'm going to get a realtor in here to at least get some figures of just selling it as-is vs. what's the most I could hope to get for it in the current market if I put money into it.

It will be nice when I don't have to deal with any of it anymore, for sure.

But the lawn has never looked better than it does now. The raccoon problem has been remedied. I'm having a bit of a tougher time getting rid of the ants, but they're not in the house... at least we finally have our first dry summer in 5 years so their activity has been minimal. No flooding issues either for a while.

I'm in the process of pricing out some things that I have that might make it okay to just walk away from the situation and take a hit in the amount of money I could make by fixing up the house and just being done with it, assuming I can find a buyer. I've got two beautiful oil paintings of Notre Dame, one of which still has a very old pricetag from Marshall Fields that said $1,450 on it. I've got 5 Civil War prints, two of them are copyrighted in the late 1800's.

Do you know anybody who would be interested in a 1980 Gibson ES-335TD that's damn near mint? Even if I got back into playing guitar I'll never be good enough to play that thing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, July 29, 2019 9:45 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by second:
By the way, 6ix...

Ok, that is a tad harsh. Thankfully I know you're just busting his chops in the typical man-to-man RWED way. Least you could do is add a wink emoji!

Prior to last week, most Americans had never heard of John Ratcliffe. But in the testimony of former special counsel Robert Mueller before the House Judiciary and Intelligence committees, the second-term Republican Texas congressman put on quite a show.

He berated Mueller for stating that President Donald Trump was not fully exonerated in his eponymous report on his findings of the nearly two-year-long investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and the possibility of obstruction of justice by the President.

What did Trump award Ratcliffe for his services? The US top intelligence job. That ain't gonna end well for running those agencies effectively.

Guys like Ratcliffe, 6ix, and Trump need their asses beaten for what they are and how they live their lives. I've been sympathizing with Trump voters I've known for 50 years in Texas, but these guys never learn that it's not the government that ruined their lives; it is their own fault, whether it is drinking, smoking, over-eating, crashing their pickups into light-poles, getting divorced or fired or going bankrupt. It's their own damn fault and they need to be told that constantly until they stop imagining their problems are caused out there somewhere in Washington, D.C. Their problem is inside their head. It is that brain of theirs not running right.

(Now I don't have to be so sympathetic to those old voters for Trump. They are dead. Their livers gave out or their lungs or suicide or their Ex-wife shot them dead and good riddance. I don't think any Federal programs out of D.C. could possibly have saved them from their brains and their self-delusions.)

www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/politics/john-ratcliffe-dni-dan-coats/index.htm
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 29, 2019 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Guys like Ratcliffe, 6ix, and Trump need their asses beaten for what they are and how they live their lives.

lol

Remember talking about not putting people into boxes, Captain?

Second just put me in the same box as Radcliffe and Trump.

What a silly man he is.

I've taken full responsibility for my actions Second. I'm a recovered alcoholic who's dealing with a lot of the problems he's created for himself. It's not easy, but I don't imagine that genuine recovery ever is.

Monday's almost halfway over. Don't you have a business to run instead of trying to kick people when they're down?

And no. I reject your suggestion to murder my old boss and take everything he has. You should consider yourself lucky that none of the people you fired for their political beliefs are as unhinged as you are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:28 AM

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What a bore. Skipping 1-3 because ~~it's pure deflection.~~ I already think tha the whole Russia-Assange accusation was bogus

fify

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4) There is an organization called the "Internet Research Agency" which was credited with "helping" Trump through social media. However, most of their content is ambiguous, equivocal, not related to either Trump OR Hillary, and much of it was posted AFTER the election.

5) This IRA troll-farm was claimed by Mueller to be directly linked to the Kremlin. However, there is NO evidence to back that up; the evidence is SO paltry that the presiding judge in the case forbade Mueller by court order from even insinuating that there was ANY connection to Putin. Eventually this will be decided in court. Are you going to claim that the presiding judge is a Russian troll too?- SIGNY

cites, links, quotes, fetch!

Aww, did you not read the indictment? The one that says, "starting as early as 2014..." Go! Find it!

I don't have to read the indictment, a judge read it for me and she said it was a lottacrap, and forbade Mueller from continuing to (falsely) claim that this social media marketing agency had links to the Kremlin.

In fact, the Mueller team has bobbled the indictment from the get-go, because (1) they made it all up because (2) they never expected anyone to defend one of their targets in court.

The whole sad mis-handled mess started on Feb 2018 when Mueller indicted the IRA and its parent/affiliate companies Concorde Mgt and Concorde Catering

In April 2018, Concorde lawyers showed up in court requesting copies of the "evidence" against it ("discovery process"), which caused Meuller to ask for a delay on the idea that the indicted entities had not been properly served. The judge refused the delay.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-hands-small-defeat-to-mu
eller-team-in-russian-troll-farm-case
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

In November 2018 the same judge asked the Mueller team to "clarify" it's allegations against Concorde et al, because there is no statute covering the indictment
https://osociety.org/2018/10/21/judge-orders-mueller-to-prove-russian-
company-meddled-in-election/

In July of this year (2019) the same judge found that Mueller's constant reference to concorde's (unproven) Kremlin links to be "prejudicial" and ordered Mueller to stop talking about them
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-fede
ral-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/

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6) Russia supposedly had access to various election databases and in some instances could have altered the data, BUT DIDN'T.- SIGNY

And you know this how? - CC

NPR
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh btw ... you belatedly admitting that you don't believe that I'm a Russian puts you even MORE firmly on the hook for defamation. Because if you KNEW I wasn't a paid Russian troll, which you have certainly called me often enough, then not only does that mean you called me something which was untrue, you called me something which YOU KNEW to be untrue, which is malicious. - SIGNY

Okay, I do know you're a troll - fer shur. - CC
That doesn't let you off the hook.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:18 PM

For your reading pleasure

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Just how dead is the RussiaGate story — and how brain-dead are the House Democratic Committee chairmen, Nadler (Judiciary Committee) and Schiff (Intelligence Committee) to haul RussiaGate’s front-man, Robert Mueller back into the spotlight where the next thing to roll over and die will be Mr. Mueller’s evanescent reputation? The entrapment operation that was the Special Counsel’s covert mission has turned out to be Mr. Mueller own personal booby-trap, prompting the question: is it possible that he’s just not very bright?

Though Mr. Mueller’s final report asserted that the Russian government interfered in “a sweeping and systemic fashion” to influence the 2016 election, the 450-page great tome contains zero evidence to support that claim, and the discrepancy was actually noticed by federal judge Dabney Friedrich who is presiding over the case against the alleged Russian Facebook trolls that was one of the two tent-poles in the RussiaGate fantasy. The case is now blowing up in Robert Mueller’s face.

In early 2018, Mr. Mueller sold a DC grand jury on producing indictments against a Russian outfit called the Internet Research Agency and its parent company Concord Management, owned by Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin for the so-called election meddling. The indictment was celebrated as a huge coup at the time by the likes of CNN and The New York Times, styled as a silver bullet in the heart of the Trump presidency. But the indicted parties were all in Russia, and could not be extradited, and there was zero expectation that any actual trial would ever take place — leaving Mueller & Co. off-the-hook for proving their allegations.

To the great surprise of Mr. Mueller and his “team,” Mr. Prigozhin hired some American lawyers to defend his company in court. Smooth move. It automatically triggered the discovery process, by which the accused is entitled to see the evidence that prosecutors hold. It turned out that Mr. Mueller’s team had no evidence that the Russian government was involved with the Facebook pranks. This annoyed Judge Friedrich, who ordered Mr. Mueller and his lawyers to desist making public statements about Concord and IRA’s alleged “sweeping and systemic” collusion with Russia, and threatened legal sanctions if they did.

Judge Friedrich’s rulings were unsealed in early July, after Messers Nadler and Schiff had already scheduled Mr. Mueller’s testimony before their committees. And now they’re stuck with him. The only purpose of his appearance was to repeat and reinforce the narrative that the Russian government interfered in the election, which he is now forbidden to do, at least in connection to the Concord and IRA’s activities. But the other tentpole of the two-year-plus inquisition has also collapsed: the allegation that Russian intel hacked the DNC servers. It’s now a matter of public record that the DNC servers were never examined by federal officials. They were purportedly scrutinized by a DNC contractor called CrowdStrike, co-founded by Russian Dimitri Alperovitch, an adversary of Vladimir Putin, active in US-based anti-Putin lobbying and PR. CrowdStrike’s “draft” report on their review of the server was laughably incomplete, and the Mueller team’s lawyers took no steps to validate it.

It would be interesting to hear Robert Mueller’s explanation for how come US computer forensic experts were never dispatched to take possession of the DNC servers. Surely a ranking member on either House committee would have to ask him that, along with many other embarrassing questions about the stupendously sloppy and disingenuous work of the Special Counsel’s team. It was only one glaring omission among many.

The whole affair now takes on tragic contours of Shakespearean dimensions. The Attorney General, Mr. Barr, is said to be an “old friend” of Mr. Mueller. They clashed pretty publicly after the release of Mr. Mueller’s long-awaited final report. Mr. Barr must at least be dismayed by the bad faith and deliberate deceit in his old friend’s final report, and he really

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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What a bore. Skipping 1-3 because ~~it's pure deflection.~~ I already think tha the whole Russia-Assange accusation was bogus
fify

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4) There is an organization called the "Internet Research Agency" which was credited with "helping" Trump through social media. However, most of their content is ambiguous, equivocal, not related to either Trump OR Hillary, and much of it was posted AFTER the election.

5) This IRA troll-farm was claimed by Mueller to be directly linked to the Kremlin. However, there is NO evidence to back that up; the evidence is SO paltry that the presiding judge in the case forbade Mueller by court order from even insinuating that there was ANY connection to Putin. Eventually this will be decided in court. Are you going to claim that the presiding judge is a Russian troll too?- SIGNY

cites, links, quotes, fetch!

Aww, did you not read the indictment? The one that says, "starting as early as 2014..." Go! Find it!
I don't have to read the indictment, a judge read it for me and she said it was a lottacrap, and forbade Mueller from continuing to (falsely) claim that this social media marketing agency had links to the Kremlin.

In fact, the Mueller team has bobbled the indictment from the get-go, because (1) they made it all up because (2) they never expected anyone to defend one of their targets in court.

The whole sad mis-handled mess started on Feb 2018 when Mueller indicted the IRA and its parent/affiliate companies Concorde Mgt and Concorde Catering

In April 2018, Concorde lawyers showed up in court requesting copies of the "evidence" against it ("discovery process"), which caused Meuller to ask for a delay on the idea that the indicted entities had not been properly served. The judge refused the delay.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-hands-small-defeat-to-mu
eller-team-in-russian-troll-farm-case
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

In November 2018 the same judge asked the Mueller team to "clarify" it's allegations against Concorde et al, because there is no statute covering the indictment
https://osociety.org/2018/10/21/judge-orders-mueller-to-prove-russian-
company-meddled-in-election/

In July of this year (2019) the same judge found that Mueller's constant reference to concorde's (unproven) Kremlin links to be "prejudicial" and ordered Mueller to stop talking about them
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-fede
ral-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/

Which has nothing to do with whether Russia hacked our 2016 election. You might as well be describing ferret husbandry. The lengths you will go to to absolve the Russian government of any involvement... amazing.

Do you think Putin had no idea what the IRA was up to?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
6) Russia supposedly had access to various election databases and in some instances could have altered the data, BUT DIDN'T.- SIGNY

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And you know this how? - CC
NPR

You're suggesting NPR knows better than all of the US national intel agencies?

Breaking News - you still didn't answer whether you thought Russia tried to hack the 2016 presidential campaign - it's a yes or not question:

Yes or No?

Do you think Russia will try and hack/influence/obstruct the 2020 election?

Yes or No?

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:46 PM

Quote:

What a bore. Skipping 1-3 because ~~it's pure deflection.~~ I already think tha the whole Russia-Assange accusation was bogus

fify

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4) There is an organization called the "Internet Research Agency" which was credited with "helping" Trump through social media. However, most of their content is ambiguous, equivocal, not related to either Trump OR Hillary, and much of it was posted AFTER the election.

5) This IRA troll-farm was claimed by Mueller to be directly linked to the Kremlin. However, there is NO evidence to back that up; the evidence is SO paltry that the presiding judge in the case forbade Mueller by court order from even insinuating that there was ANY connection to Putin. Eventually this will be decided in court. Are you going to claim that the presiding judge is a Russian troll too?- SIGNY

cites, links, quotes, fetch! Aww, did you not read the indictment? The one that says, "starting as early as 2014..." Go! Find it! - CC

I don't have to read the indictment, a judge read it for me and she said it was a lottacrap, and forbade Mueller from continuing to (falsely) claim that this social media marketing agency had links to the Kremlin.

In fact, the Mueller team has bobbled the indictment from the get-go, because (1) they made it all up because (2) they never expected anyone to defend one of their targets in court.

The whole sad mis-handled mess started on Feb 2018 when Mueller indicted the IRA and its parent/affiliate companies Concorde Mgt and Concorde Catering

In April 2018, Concorde lawyers showed up in court requesting copies of the "evidence" against it ("discovery process"), which caused Meuller to ask for a delay on the idea that the indicted entities had not been properly served. The judge refused the delay.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-hands-small-defeat-to-mu
eller-team-in-russian-troll-farm-case
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

In November 2018 the same judge asked the Mueller team to "clarify" it's allegations against Concorde et al, because there is no statute covering the indictment
https://osociety.org/2018/10/21/judge-orders-mueller-to-prove-russian-
company-meddled-in-election/

In July of this year (2019) the same judge found that Mueller's constant reference to concorde's (unproven) Kremlin links to be "prejudicial" and ordered Mueller to stop talking about them
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-fede
ral-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/
- SIGNY

Which has nothing to do with whether Russia hacked our 2016 election. You might as well be describing ferret husbandry. The lengths you will go to to absolve the Russian government of any involvement... amazing

Do you think Putin had no idea what the IRA was up to?- CC

It's not up to ME to decide whether the IRA was getting its orders from the Kremlin, the "evidence" (what little there was of it) was redacted BUT THERE IS A COURT CASE GOING ON OVER THAT VERY ISSUE, and the people deciding guilty or not will be able to see ALL of the evidence and make a decision based on that. This is like MH17: I'm willing to let the full investigation play out because what choice do I have, really? Make up my mind on the basis of nothing?

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
6) Russia supposedly had access to various election databases and in some instances could have altered the data, BUT DIDN'T.- SIGNY

And you know this how? - CC

NPR- SIGNY

You're suggesting NPR knows better than all of the US national intel agencies? - CC

No, NPR was quoting the intelligence agency that was inspecting the databases. Probably the FBI. They didn't just make it up on their own. Trust me, anything exculpatory about Russia is going to fully vetted before it

SECOND

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:09 AM

Cartoon Meanwhile-on-Parallel-Earth:

It's time once again to check in on parallel Earth -- a world very much like our own, yet strangely divergent!
www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/29/1874727/-Cartoon-Meanwhile-on-Paral
lel-Earth

On parallel Earth, President Donald Trump robs a bank in broad daylight:
"I have an Article Two! I can do anything I want! Many people don't know this!"

Parallel Fox News leaps to the President's Defense:
"The robber was wearing a mask! How do we know it wasn't Hillary Clinton?"

Two years later, parallel Robert Mueller issues a report:
"If we were confident the president didn't rob a bank in broad daylight, we would've said so."

Trump rages endlessly on parallel Twitter:
"Witch hunt! Fake news! Why didn't 32 angry Democrats investigate the real robber, crooked Hillary?"
"No obstruction! No bank robbery! Full exoneration!"
"Make parallel America great again!"

Eventually, Mueller testifies:
"To clarify, does your report exonerate the president of robbing a bank in broad daylight?"
"I would say that generally it does not."

The apologists switch gears:
"Mueller doesn't have the authority to exonerate! It's a meaningless concept!"
"Why are we even talking about it?"
"What are words, even?"

Meanwhile, very serious pundits discussed the theatrics of it all:
"The optics were terrible! Mueller did not pound his fist on the desk and provide shows such as ours with a viral video clip!"
"At long last, has Mueller no sense of priorities?"

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:15 AM

1. My 600 lb life. (TV show)
2. Donald Trump.
3. Texas Republicans.
4. Ruining people's lives because of their political beliefs.
5. Talking about how much money he has.
6. Republicans
7. Conservatives

a handy summary of SECOND's post:

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Originally posted by SECOND:
Cartoon Meanwhile-on-Parallel-Earth:
2.
7.
2.
2.
7.

FIFY

tic tac

SECOND

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:04 PM

What Mueller said in 30 seconds

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:06 PM

Yep, tick tock

T

SECOND

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Yep, tick tock

No tick tock because it requires 67 Senators to remove a President, but not even one GOP Senator would vote to remove Trump, no matter what he does, other than Trump killing and eating a baby on live TV. The baby would also have to be an American citizen, white, and cute. The only other strategy that will work is to convince the voters in 2020 to remove Trump.

Trump is killing babies:

Quote:
The AP count gives a glimpse, even if incomplete, into how often civilians are mistakenly hit by drone strikes, at a time when the Trump administration has dramatically ramped up the use of armed drones. It has carried out 176 strikes during its nearly two years in office, compared to the 154 strikes during the entire eight years of the Obama administration, according to a count by the AP and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/14/hidden-toll-of-us-
drone-strikes-in-yemen-nearly-a-third-of-deaths-are-civilians-not-al-qaida/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 7:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't have to read the indictment, a judge read it for me and she said it was a lottacrap, and forbade Mueller from continuing to (falsely) claim that this social media marketing agency had links to the Kremlin.

Easily debunked - you'd have to be a very slow child to think Putin didn't have a hand in what the IRA was up to. NO ONE would take it on themselves in Putin's Russia to act as they did without express approval from Stinker.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In fact, the Mueller team has bobbled the indictment from the get-go, because (1) they made it all up because (2) they never expected anyone to defend one of their targets in court.

The whole sad mis-handled mess started on Feb 2018 when Mueller indicted the IRA and its parent/affiliate companies Concorde Mgt and Concorde Catering

In April 2018, Concorde lawyers showed up in court requesting copies of the "evidence" against it ("discovery process"), which caused Meuller to ask for a delay on the idea that the indicted entities had not been properly served. The judge refused the delay.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-hands-small-defeat-to-mu
eller-team-in-russian-troll-farm-case
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

In November 2018 the same judge asked the Mueller team to "clarify" it's allegations against Concorde et al, because there is no statute covering the indictment
https://osociety.org/2018/10/21/judge-orders-mueller-to-prove-russian-
company-meddled-in-election/

In July of this year (2019) the same judge found that Mueller's constant reference to concorde's (unproven) Kremlin links to be "prejudicial" and ordered Mueller to stop talking about them
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-fede
ral-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/
- SIGNY

All of that text sure looks impressive! I'll give you that... I'll also give you:

Easily debunked. You should have read the articles you posted:

"Mueller's team asked for a delay on Friday because it was unclear whether the firm had formally accepted the court summons for the case, but U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich, an appointee of President Trump, denied that request in a brief order Saturday. No explanation was given for the decision"

So, not what you typed.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not up to ME to decide whether the IRA was getting its orders from the Kremlin, the "evidence" (what little there was of it) was redacted BUT THERE IS A COURT CASE GOING ON OVER THAT VERY ISSUE, and the people deciding guilty or not will be able to see ALL of the evidence and make a decision based on that. This is like MH17: I'm willing to let the full investigation play out because what choice do I have, really? Make up my mind on the basis of nothing?

Come on, you love to guess about these things, but now you want to wait???

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Breaking News - you still didn't answer whether you thought Russia tried to hack the 2016 presidential campaign - it's a yes or not question:- CC
WHICH I ALREADY ANSWERED, LIKE, A YEAR AGO.

I think the biggest effect on the election was Comey's on-again, off-again investigation of Hillary's State Department emails. So NO, Russia had nothing to do with that.

So, YES, they tried, just not a huge influence in your opinion. And to be fair, it really didn't need to be much - what did they say? MI, PA, and WI? Just 3 states made the difference...?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Changing electoral databases: NOPE. I'm not sure that Russia even accessed any of them, considering the blizzard of lies that has been spewed by the M$M this might just be another one. But the media has ALSO repeated, sinc

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 9:32 PM

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I don't have to read the indictment, a judge read it for me and she said it was a lottacrap, and forbade Mueller from continuing to (falsely) claim that this social media marketing agency had links to the Kremlin.- SIGNY

Easily debunked - you'd have to be a very slow child to think Putin didn't have a hand in what the IRA was up to. NO ONE would take it on themselves in Putin's Russia to act as they did without express approval from Stinker.- CC

Lots of things go on without Putin's approval, or even his knowledge. Heck, just look at the recent demonstrations in Moscow. Do you think he controls the minutae of every single moment of every Russian's life? I read (in the English-language versions of Russian press) often enough about MAJOR problems that have gone on for years that were finally found and corrected ... the Admiral of the Northern Fleet, for example, who was canned because he had been faking readiness reports for years. The person in charge of the space program being arrested for embezzlement. And all of that is supposedly within the Kremlin's purview, and I'm sure there's lots of stuff that isn't even caught. It's a big country, and not as controlled as you think, apparently!

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In fact, the Mueller team has bobbled the indictment from the get-go, because (1) they made it all up because (2) they never expected anyone to defend one of their targets in court.
The whole sad mis-handled mess started on Feb 2018 when Mueller indicted the IRA and its parent/affiliate companies Concorde Mgt and Concorde Catering

In April 2018, Concorde lawyers showed up in court requesting copies of the "evidence" against it ("discovery process"), which caused Meuller to ask for a delay on the idea that the indicted entities had not been properly served. The judge refused the delay.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-hands-small-defeat-to-mu
eller-team-in-russian-troll-farm-case
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

In November 2018 the same judge asked the Mueller team to "clarify" it's allegations against Concorde et al, because there is no statute covering the indictment
https://osociety.org/2018/10/21/judge-orders-mueller-to-prove-russian-
company-meddled-in-election/

In July of this year (2019) the same judge found that Mueller's constant reference to concorde's (unproven) Kremlin links to be "prejudicial" and ordered Mueller to stop talking about them
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-fede
ral-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/
- SIGNY

All of that text sure looks impressive! I'll give you that... I'll also give you:
Easily debunked. You should have read the articles you posted:
"Mueller's team asked for a delay on Friday because it was unclear whether the firm had formally accepted the court summons for the case, but U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich, an appointee of President Trump, denied that request in a brief order Saturday. No explanation was given for the decision"

There were many articles about that on the internet, some of them addressed the problems with the discovery process, some didn't. If you want, I'll retrieve a few of the ones that discuss the whole discovery process for you. But, of course, you'll just find some other quibble.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not up to ME to decide whether the IRA was getting its orders from the Kremlin, the "evidence" (what little there was of it) was redacted BUT THERE IS A COURT CASE GOING ON OVER THAT VERY ISSUE, and the people deciding guilty or not will be able to see ALL of the evidence and make a decision based on that. This is like MH17: I'm willing to let the full investigation play out because what choice do I have, really? Make up my mind on the basis of nothing?- SIGNY

Come on, y

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 31, 2019 9:50 PM

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On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

The purported reason for the requested delay was that Mueller's team was concerned that the defendants hadn't been properly served.

As it turns out, once THAT reason was rejected, the Mueller team asked for ANOTHER delay, this time for the reason that they needed more time to gather the evidence. THAT delay, which was also requested by the defendent's lawyers, was granted.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/05/23/mueller-delay-russia-trial/

Seems to me that the evidence should have already been prepared. How does it look when a proseccutor gets to trial and has to ask for a halt because they don't have their ducks in a row?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-
election-case-delay-570627

The purported reason for the requested delay was that Mueller's team was concerned that the defendants hadn't been properly served.

As it turns out, once THAT reason was rejected, the Mueller team asked for ANOTHER delay, this time for the reason that they needed more time to gather the evidence. THAT delay, which was also requested by the defendent's lawyers, was granted.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/05/23/mueller-delay-russia-trial/

Seems to me that the evidence should have already been prepared. How does it look when a proseccutor gets to trial and has to ask for a halt because they don't have their ducks in a row?

You are going all out to muddy the water, aren't you, Signym?
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/25/fact-checking-lawmakers-cla
ims-during-mueller-hearings/

Question from Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) to Mueller: “Your report famously links Russian Internet troll farms with the Russian government. Yet, at a hearing on May 28th in the Concord Management IRA prosecution that you initiated, the judge excoriated both you and Mr. Barr for producing no evidence to support this claim. Why did you suggest Russia was responsible for the troll farms, when, in court, you’ve been unable to produce any evidence to support it?”

McClintock attacked Mueller with an interesting argument that mirrors one of the defenses offered by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In his line of questioning, McClintock pushed back on a widely accepted finding from the U.S. intelligence community and the Justice Department: that Russia's government ordered up a social-media influence campaign to help Trump and hurt Clinton.

Before Mueller’s grand jury indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers working directly for Putin’s government, it indicted several Russian individuals working for a “troll farm” called the Internet Research Agency. Two Russian companies — called Concord Catering and Concord Management and Consulting — provided the Internet Research Agency with millions of dollars to buy digital ads and to pump pro-Trump and anti-Clinton messaging into the U.S. ecosystem in 2016, Mueller’s indictment alleges.

Among those indicted was Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin, one of the richest men in Russia. Prigozhin “controlled” the two Concord companies that funded the troll farm and directed its work, Mueller alleged. “He is a caterer who has been nicknamed ‘Putin’s chef’ because of his close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin,” The Washington Post reported. The New York Times reported that Prigozhin has received contracts from the Russian government worth $3.1 billion over the past five years, citing research by the Anti-Corruption Foundation, a group set up by Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

The U.S. Treasury Department in 2016 imposed sanctions on Prigozhin and Concord over Russia’s occupation of Crimea and military actions in Ukraine, and then imposed more sanctions in 2018 based on “malicious cyber-enabled activities.” “Prigozhin has extensive business dealings with the Russian Federation Ministry of Defense, and a company with significant ties to him holds a contract to build a military base near the Russian Federation border with Ukraine,” the Treasury Department said in 2016 when it announced Prigozhin’s Ukraine-related sanctions. “Russia has been building additional military bases near the Ukrainian border and has used these bases as staging points for deploying soldiers into Ukraine.”

In a 2018 news conference with Trump in Helsinki, Putin said Concord did not “represent” or “constitute” the

SIGNYM

Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:28 AM

SECONDRATE: WHICH IS WHY THIS HAS TO BE DEALT WITH IN TRIAL.

I'm not the one making claims about the IRA ...CC, JO et al are. I've seen a few examples of IRA's activities that the breathless press provided ... maybe a couple dozen examples in all over the past two years. I'm sure the M$M provided the most controversial ones, and even THOSE were pretty unfocused. What did the totality of their USA content look like? do they post content in any other nation? What does THAT look like? Can they credibly demonstrate that this is a commercial, money-making operation, and not a political one? Is there a demonstrable connection between Putin and this Russian? (It seems that everyone in Russia who makes our news is described as having "close ties to Putin". Damn, that guy has a lot of close friends!)

I don't know, and neither do you, and the M$M is (finally) admitting that they don't know either. But it sure served as a good excuse to censor the internet! So, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, Bob Mueller!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But it sure served as a good excuse to censor the internet! So, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, Bob Mueller!

This is what it's all about.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:09 PM

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted this morning:

Go out and get Andrew McCarthy’s new book, “Ball of Collusion.” “Supervision became the investigator, and when they pushed the envelope, there was nobody there to tell them NO. It goes right to the President (Obama). Plenty of information that Obama was informed & knew exactly what they were doing. There’s plenty of indication, we don’t have to speculate.” @SteveDoocy “Holy cow, got to read this book.” @ainsleyearhardt “WOW!” @foxandfriends A very serious situation. Can never be allowed to happen again! DRAIN THE SWAMP
5:26 AM - 15 Aug 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1161977535946731520

The full title of the book Trump promotes is:

Ball of Collusion: The Plot to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency
www.amazon.com/Ball-Collusion-Election-Destroy-Presidency/dp/164177025
2/

"The public was led to believe that Trump conspired with Russia to steal the election. Not one to sit passively through an onslaught, President Trump fought back in his tumultuous way. Matters came to a head when he fired his FBI director, who had given explosive House testimony suggesting the president was a criminal suspect, despite privately assuring Trump otherwise. The resulting firestorm of partisan protest cowed the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel, whose seemingly limitless investigation bedeviled the administration for two years.

A doughty group of lawmakers forced a shift in the spotlight from Trump to his investigators and accusers. This has exposed the depth of politicization within American law-enforcement and intelligence agencies. It is now clear that the institutions on which our nation depends for objective policing and clear-eyed analysis injected themselves scandalously into the divisive politics of the 2016 election."

But what Trump says happened is not what happened. It is as if Trump didn't believe his own Dept of Justice, but always huffing and puffing with pride at himself for winning the election without any interference :
"To ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as follows:(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice."
More at www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-M
ueller-special.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly