Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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Quote:The GOP has a replacement standing by: V.P. Mike Pence. You don't have to pretend that Trump is irreplaceable, that you must accept Trump's defects because there is no alternative. Pence has made his tax returns available, but Trump won't share even one of the tax returns for the past 70 years. That is a dead giveaway that he cheated on his taxes.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
"Impeach …. bwah ha ha!
Impeach …. snortle snortle snortle!
Impeach …. slurp slurp slurp!"
"Hey you, where's my fucking juice box?!"
Mike Pence Releases 10 Years of Tax Returns
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/10/us/politics/mike-pence-tax-returns.html
Sep 9, 2016, While Donald J. Trump resists making his tax returns public, his running mate, Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana, released a decade of his own filings on Friday. A statement by the Trump campaign accompanying Mr. Pence’s returns said the release was being made with the “full support of Mr. Trump, who plans to release his tax returns upon the completion of a routine audit.”
Many years have passed since that news-story was written and yet the "routine audit" for all the previous years of Trump's tax returns continues. Congress will have to force the issue because Trump won't comply with the law. Contrary to the Trump administration, Congress actually HAS grabbed a sitting president’s confidential tax info before. In the early 1970s, the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) used the tax disclosure law to obtain tax information related to then-President Richard Nixon.
www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-returns-precedent_n_5d3a3bcce4
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...and as a result this will also blow up in their faces. In other news Jerry Nadler is fat.
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Quote:Since Trump refuses to comply with the law, Congress is suing for Trump's tax returns. Congress will audit Trump because he has cheated on his taxes in the past. If he gets caught cheating again, it will blow up in his face for the 2020 Election.
Originally posted by whozit:
...and as a result this will also blow up in their faces. In other news Jerry Nadler is fat.
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/10/18537282/trump-tax-returns-c
ongress-irs
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Since Trump refuses to comply with the law, Congress is suing for Trump's tax returns. Congress will audit Trump because he has cheated on his taxes in the past. If he gets caught cheating again, it will blow up in his face for the 2020 Election.
Originally posted by whozit:
...and as a result this will also blow up in their faces. In other news Jerry Nadler is fat.
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/10/18537282/trump-tax-returns-c
ongress-irs
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He's not releasing his taxes because he didn't do anything wrong, he's doing it to drive Fat Jerry crazy. What's going to happen when he does release them and they find nothing? Every time they go after him THEY end up looking bad.
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Quote:Trump cheated in the past. There will be some entries on his recent tax returns that fail to match what buildings actually sold for. Then Trump will say he did, Did, DID! pay all his taxes, but the trap will close on Trump.
Originally posted by whozit:
He's not releasing his taxes because he did anything wrong, he's doing it to drive Fat Jerry crazy. What's going to happen when he does release them and they find nothing? Every time they go after him THEY end up looking bad.
Trump is terrible at business: "Even more extraordinary was this unreported fact: The banks financing Mr. Schron’s purchase valued Fred Trump’s empire at nearly $1 billion. In other words, Donald Trump, master dealmaker, sold his father’s empire for hundreds of millions less than it was worth." Trump has to cheat on his taxes to make up for his blunders in business.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html
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If you don't like it, then pressure your Democrat politicians to change the law so all presidential candidates have to release their tax returns the next time Democrats are in power.
Trump isn't doing anything wrong by not releasing them.
Drop it dummy.
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Quote:In 1924, the Democratic politicians did change the law: "Ways and Means, the Joint Committee on Taxation, and the Senate Finance Committee are the three congressional committees that are supposed to be able to look at any tax return they want. Congress gave itself the power in 1924 as a check on the executive branch -- all the committees have to do is ask the IRS." Congress asked, but Trump ordered the IRS to say no. So, it has to go to Court because Trump has something to hide.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you don't like it, then pressure your Democrat politicians to change the law so all presidential candidates have to release their tax returns the next time Democrats are in power.
www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-returns-precedent_n_5d3a3bcce4
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Originally posted by second:Quote:In 1924, the Democratic politicians did change the law: "Ways and Means, the Joint Committee on Taxation, and the Senate Finance Committee are the three congressional committees that are supposed to be able to look at any tax return they want. Congress gave itself the power in 1924 as a check on the executive branch -- all the committees have to do is ask the IRS." Congress asked, but Trump ordered the IRS to say no. So, it has to go to Court because Trump has something to hide.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you don't like it, then pressure your Democrat politicians to change the law so all presidential candidates have to release their tax returns the next time Democrats are in power.
www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-returns-precedent_n_5d3a3bcce4
b0c31569e8bdb7
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"The IRS provided those returns the same day", committee chair Richard Neal (D-Mass.) said in a statement.
No shit.
I've been saying for years now that the IRS already knows if Trump cheated or not.
That's not what you're arguing, nor has it ever been what you're arguing. You want him to release them to the public so Rachel Maddow can talk about it on her show and spin more conspiracy theories with it every day for the next year and a half.
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Earlier this year, Neal asked for copies of six years* worth of Trump's personal and business returns, plus documents related to any audits for those years. But Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who oversees the IRS, said that complying with the "unprecedented" request could have terrible consequences.
"History demonstrates that private tax return information is susceptible to abuse for partisan purposes - regardless of which party is in power," Mnuchin said in an April 23 letter. "Unless carefully restrained by law, this risk threatens the privacy of all taxpayers."
Why put the "unprecedented" in quotes, Huffpo? It absolutely is an unprecedented request, from a single lawmaker. Nixon had the entire legislative branch deep up his ass. If you want that tax info, it's going to have to be obtained the same way that Nixon's were.
A note to Second: I don't see anything in that article backing up your claim that Trump said "No."
A side note about the article itself: The "*" that I put in the quote there was actually a misplaced apostrophe in the HuffPo article. HuffPo is garbage tier media.
And they've got the nerve to make me have to re-type anything I want to use in a quote since it seems that you can't even highlight their articles to copy and paste them anymore.
I should send them a bill for copy editing their garbage.
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Quote:Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told Congress they can't see Trump's taxes. Mnuchin did it because he was ordered to. He is not so stupid as to ignore the law, unless Trump told him to. And, by the way, Nixon was "audited" by the IRS and they found that Nixon had done an exemplary job of complying with the tax code, but then Congress audited the same returns and discovered Nixon owed $465,000. Nixon paid, too. If it had been Trump, he would have refused and that refusal would have ended up as another charge during an impeachment.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:In 1924, the Democratic politicians did change the law: "Ways and Means, the Joint Committee on Taxation, and the Senate Finance Committee are the three congressional committees that are supposed to be able to look at any tax return they want. Congress gave itself the power in 1924 as a check on the executive branch -- all the committees have to do is ask the IRS." Congress asked, but Trump ordered the IRS to say no. So, it has to go to Court because Trump has something to hide.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you don't like it, then pressure your Democrat politicians to change the law so all presidential candidates have to release their tax returns the next time Democrats are in power.
www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-returns-precedent_n_5d3a3bcce4
b0c31569e8bdb7
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"The IRS provided those returns the same day", committee chair Richard Neal (D-Mass.) said in a statement.
No shit.
I've been saying for years now that the IRS already knows if Trump cheated or not.
That's not what you're arguing, nor has it ever been what you're arguing. You want him to release them to the public so Rachel Maddow can talk about it on her show and spin more conspiracy theories with it every day for the next year and a half.Quote:
Earlier this year, Neal asked for copies of six years* worth of Trump's personal and business returns, plus documents related to any audits for those years. But Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who oversees the IRS, said that complying with the "unprecedented" request could have terrible consequences.
"History demonstrates that private tax return information is susceptible to abuse for partisan purposes - regardless of which party is in power," Mnuchin said in an April 23 letter. "Unless carefully restrained by law, this risk threatens the privacy of all taxpayers."
Why put the "unprecedented" in quotes, Huffpo? It absolutely is an unprecedented request, from a single lawmaker. Nixon had the entire legislative branch deep up his ass. If you want that tax info, it's going to have to be obtained the same way that Nixon's were.
A note to Second: I don't see anything in that article backing up your claim that Trump said "No."
A side note about the article itself: The "*" that I put in the quote there was actually a misplaced apostrophe in the HuffPo article. HuffPo is garbage tier media.
And they've got the nerve to make me have to re-type anything I want to use in a quote since it seems that you can't even highlight their articles to copy and paste them anymore.
I should send them a bill for copy editing their garbage.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument
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https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/
files/documents/2019.07.25%20Memo%20to%20Full%20Committee_0.pdf
Seems as though Neal is going about this the right way. I actually applaud his effort.
Great. Let Congress have the tax returns.
I'd still never expect for the public to get their hands on them. That's only going to happen through a leak, and Democrats are already looking at a 2020 election where they're going to get massacred, so I'd tread carefully on that one.
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