Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
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What was the Resolution number which started this Impeachment Investigation?
The House Resolution number, or the Judiciary Committee Resolution number?
It must have been 26 July or sooner, since this thread announced it on that day.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What was the Resolution number which started this Impeachment Investigation?
The House Resolution number, or the Judiciary Committee Resolution number?
It must have been 26 July or sooner, since this thread announced it on that day.
Crickets??
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I'll point out for the dummies here that the Mueller investigation revolved around a foreign country helping Trump in the election by providing dirt on Trumps opponent. It further revealed Trump tried to cover it up. Lies, no collusion said Trump.
Here we go again. Trump trying to blackmail Ukraine into colluding with him in the upcoming elections by providing dirt on one of Trumps opponents. We are further learning that Trump has been trying to cover it up.
You can't make this shit up folks.
tick tock
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The only problem with this story is the lack of motive.
Trump doesn't need any dirt on any one of these clowns.
Not only can't any of them provide a message that the people want to hear, but amidst the 24/7 bashing Trump has received by the MSM for 3 years now, his approval rating is exactly where Obama's was 8 years ago.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-higher-obama-1460076
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President Donald Trump's job approval rating this week averaged across major polls surpassed that of his predecessor President Barack Obama at the same time eight years ago, giving some actual good news to Trump who is known to cite only conservative-leaning polls to bolster his image.
Trump's approval rating on Wednesday was 44.3 percent, according to a Real Clear Politics average of more than a half-dozen major polls. That is higher than Obama's average approval rating of 43.9 percent on September 18, 2011, by the same measure.
The 45th president's average approval rating surpassed that of his predecessor on Monday and stayed on top for the next two days. Trump's average approval rating on Monday was 44.1 percent compared to Obama's 43.9 percent on September 16, 2011, and 44 percent on Tuesday compared to Obama's 43.8 percent on September 17, 2011.
Why would Trump want to blackmail any of them?
I'd be more concerned, if I were you, that everybody up on that Primary stage is working for Trump.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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PELOSI TELLS NADLER TO GIVE UP ON HIS OBSSESSION ABOUT IMPEACHMENT
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Feel free to leak this': Inside the Pelosi-Nadler impeachment schism
The longtime allies are increasingly in conflict over the push to oust President Donald Trump.
By SARAH FERRIS, HEATHER CAYGLE and JOHN BRESNAHAN
In a closed-door meeting last week, Speaker Nancy Pelosi stunned lawmakers and aides with a swipe at Democratic staff on the House Judiciary Committee.
Pelosi criticized the panel’s handling of impeachment in harsh terms, complaining committee aides have advanced the push for ousting President Donald Trump far beyond where the House Democratic Caucus stands. Democrats simply don’t have the votes on the floor to impeach Trump, Pelosi said.
“And you can feel free to leak this,” Pelosi added, according to multiple people in the room. Pelosi’s office declined to comment on the meeting.
It was the latest sign of the widening schism between Pelosi and Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, two longtime allies who are increasingly in conflict over where to guide the party at one of its most critical moments.
Both Pelosi and Nadler, who have served in the House together for more than 25 years, insist their relationship remains strong. But their rift over impeachment is getting harder and harder to paper over amid Democrats’ flailing messaging on the topic and a growing divide in the caucus.
Whether the two veteran lawmakers can get on the same page will determine whether the party avoids a rupture that threatens its chances of holding on to the House majority and beating Trump in 2020.
“I think the speaker wants to be careful of all the different members of the caucus,” said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and a vocal impeachment advocate. “She doesn’t always want to use the word ‘impeachment’ but believe me, she signed off on every piece of what has been put forward.”
Yet the gap between Pelosi and Nadler has been on full display lately.
The Judiciary Committee held what it billed as its first “impeachment hearing” on Tuesday with former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, whose outright refusal to answer questions only bolstered Democrats’ impeachment investigation, Nadler said.
But at the very same moment, Pelosi was stressing in a private meeting with moderate Democrats that the caucus would be cautious as it approaches whether to move forward on impeachment, according to multiple attendees.
“Nadler is talking about law, Pelosi is talking about politics,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the Judiciary Committee, when asked about the divide between the two senior Democrats. “Nadler is looking at high crimes and misdemeanors, and we are inundated with them in the Judiciary Committee. But Pelosi is looking at the political side of it.”
Raskin, though, insisted the Pelosi-Nadler split isn’t hurting Democrats.
“I think it is fully, comprehensively representing the divergent opinion in the country what we need to do, and it’s too early to tell,” Raskin said. “Everyone wants to jump to the end, to say, ‘What’s the end of the story?' But we’re just in the middle of it.”
Nadler, one of the most aggressive impeachment backers among senior Democrats, has been careful not to clash directly with Pelosi since the start of his committee’s probe.
Yet the New York Democrat has ramped up his rhetoric over the summer, declaring that the House is in “formal impeachment proceedings” even as Pelosi has maintained her own careful message that the House is only weighing the possibility. At a news conference last week, she refused to even utter the “I-word.”
Nadler has made clear where he stands: Trump should be impeached. Now.
“Personally, I think the president ought to be impeached,” Nadler told WNYC’s Brian Lehrer on Monday in his strongest comments to date backing impeachment. But Nadler also acknowledged Democrats “cannot impeach the president against the will of the American people,” reiterating the point Pelosi has hammeredNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Maybe I need to start another thread in the series "how democrats give away votes" (first two in the series were illegal immigration http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63190 and reparations http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63217).
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Maybe I need to start another thread in the series "how democrats give away votes" (first two in the series were illegal immigration http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63190 and reparations http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63217).
Indeed.
One important point in the story is that 50% of voters do NOT want Trump impeached, 12% haven't decided, and only 37% want impeachment. That 37% represents most, but not even all registered Democrats (40%). Obviously Dems need more than 37% to win an election. The problem is that this is silly-season (primaries) when Dems politicians wind up swinging waaaaaaay over to the left because they're only running against other Dems for registered Dem votes, so they have an extremely narrow agenda at the moment.
THE SAME GOES FOR REPUBLICANS.
I agree with JO, the two-party system has a pernicious effect on American politics, and policy. If there were truly open primaries then candidates would have to appeal to independents and even Democrats/ Republicans and we might see a more reasonable ticket emerge.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Maybe I need to start another thread in the series "how democrats give away votes" (first two in the series were illegal immigration http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63190 and reparations http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63217).
Quote:But it's not just the primaries. As I've been listening to The PBS Newshour (I can't bear to sit down and do nothing but watch it), Nadler - for example - is bending HIS role in the House to appease his PARTICULAR constituents which are the democrats in New York's 10th congressional district. Pelosi is bending HER role in the House to protect democrats in vulnerable districts. The democrat-controlled House is passing bill after bill without even the pretense of discussion and debate and bipartisanship. The Senate democrats are doing their best to be unnoticed political wallpaper.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Indeed.
One important point in the story is that 50% of voters do NOT want Trump impeached, 12% haven't decided, and only 37% want impeachment. That 37% represents most, but not even all registered Democrats (40%). Obviously Dems need more than 37% to win an election. The problem is that this is silly-season (primaries) when Dems politicians wind up swinging waaaaaaay over to the left because they're only running against other Dems for registered Dem votes, so they have an extremely narrow agenda at the moment. If there were truly open primaries then candidates would have to appeal to independents and even Republicans and we might see a more reasonable ticket emerge.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
NO DEMOCRATS in Congress are even pretending to do the people's business. And that's in the context of Trump's pretty good PR where he's at least talking about the issues that he campaigned on. Which is why I think Congressional democrats will continue to have no legitimacy with the generic voter.
BTW, I also think it's the difference between Obama's approval ratings over time v Trump's. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63291 LOL Obama came in talking a good game about hope and change. But then he secretively backed away from ... Closing GITMO. Holding Wall Street financialists accountable. Transparency. Full disclosure of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and federal actions. Respecting everyday citizens' freedom from government surveillance. The public option. And on, and on, and on.
Obama was never going to win over republicans. But democrats and independents didn't so much rebuke Obama, as give up on him as just another shill full of empty campaign promises. Which is why his approval rating slowly slipped over time as people noticed he was very, very quiet about his campaign messages.
Trump isn't doing that.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Ok, this is deep in the weeds and far from impeachment, but Nadler is not running unopposed in his 10th District. He has a challenger (Lindsey Boylan) who is a bit further to the left than he is. He has to make a claim on SOMEthing, even if his only claim is Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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