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Thursday, July 18, 2019 5:18 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just as a reminder of where all this impeachment stuff is going ...

A reminder of why all this impeachment stuff is going:

"I believe that what this president has done to our culture, to our civic discourse ... you cannot unring these bells and you cannot unsay what he has said, and you cannot change that he has now in a very short time made it seem normal for schoolboy taunts and obvious lies to be spun out in a constant stream. I think this will do more lasting damage than Richard Nixon's surreptitious burglaries did."

Will discusses his new book, “The Conservative Sensibility,” and says that the sensibility as he defines it is currently “in the ranks of the homeless.”

“It’s a persuasion without a party, which is fine,” he says. “It may have to hope that the Republican Party, when it ceases being a cult surrounding the particular personality of the 45th president, that it will snap back. I’m not sure it will. But for the moment, it is homeless.”

More at "George F. Will on Conservatism’s Homelessness"
www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/books/review/george-f-will-conservative-sen
sibility-david-maraniss-good-american-family-red-scare.html


"What Donald Trump's revolutionary effect has been [is] to make things acceptable that were unthinkable until recently," Will said on the Times podcast, asking host Pamela Paul if she could even conceive of past presidents like John Kennedy or Dwight Eisenhower uttering any of the many things Trump has said in office.

The words of Will that run truest to me were these: "You cannot unring these bells." I think he is 100% right on that. The idea that once Trump leaves the White House -- whether involuntarily in January 2021 or voluntarily-ish in January 2025 -- the impacts and reverberations of what he has done to the presidency (and to the way in which the presidency is covered) will disappear is a fallacy.

Politics is a copycat game. Always has been. What Trump has taught politicians is that telling the truth isn't all that important -- especially if you have your own bullhorn (in Trump's case Twitter + Fox News) to make your own "alternative facts." And that presidential norms and the idea of "being presidential" is a meaningless construct. And a lot more "lessons" that will be destructive to the way in which people run for president and act once they get elected.

The Point: What Will knows is that Trump has already changed the presidency -- and our culture -- in profound ways that will not simply "snap back" once he leaves office. His imprint on the office is deep and wide.

www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/donald-trump-george-will-presidency/in
dex.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 18, 2019 8:09 PM

lol

Sour grapes much?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 18, 2019 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by sloppy:

What Will knows is that Trump has already changed the presidency


What irrelevant hack and Never-Trumper George Will and you can't seem to grasp is that's why he was elected President. And on that point he's doing an incredible job.

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and our culture -- in profound ways that will not simply "snap back" once he leaves office. His imprint on the office is deep and wide.

"Snap back" to what? Do-nothing idiots like Obama and Bush? Will railed against them too. Will should stick to his D.C. cocktail parties where there's likely a room full of libtards who care about his discredited spew.

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Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:33 PM

What did I say?

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Circus Mueller Is Delayed

Authored by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,

The circus will be coming to town a week later, but not to worry, the show will go on longer and there will be many added attractions, including a full troop of 800-pound gorillas and an entire herd of 8000-pound elephants in the room. And once the balancing acts, the clowns and the ferocious beasts pack up and move on, America might find itself without a Democratic Party, or at least one it would recognize.

The circus is the testimony of Robert Mueller before the House Judiciary (extended to 3 hours) and Intelligence Committees (2 hours). The Democrats will aim to use Mueller’s words to finally achieve their long desired impeachment of Donald Trump. But is there anyone who’s not a US Democrat who thinks that is realistic? House Speaker Nancy Pelosi doesn’t seem to think so.

In order for the Dems to get their wish, Mueller would have to say a lot of things that are not in his report. It all appears to hang on the interpretation of his assessment that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted, which the Dems take to mean that there actually was a crime that could -or should- be prosecuted.

It’s not clear why the hearing was delayed from July 17 to 24, but don’t be surprised if it has to do with US District Judge Dabney Friedrich’s decision that Mueller must stop talking in public about a case that is in front of her, because his words might prejudice a jury. That is the case that Mueller brought in February 2018 against Internet Research Agency, Concord Management, their owner Yevgeniy Prigozhin (aka Putin’s cook), and 12 of his employees.

Because Mueller never thought that a Russian would challenge him in court, and so he felt free to write a report of Russian interference for which he had no evidence

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Mueller thought he could get away with presenting a case against them because they would not show up, but Prigozhin did hire a major law firm. Ironically, Friedrich has reportedly also decided that the lawyers cannot talk about the case to their own client(s). She hasn’t thrown out the case or anything, she’s simply told everyone including Mueller to stop discussing it in public.

So it’s quite possible that once the House Democrats figured this out (the decision stems from May 28 but was unsealed only on July 1), they had to change strategy. Mueller has been barred from saying a single word about it, including in the House.

In his report, Mueller tried to establish a link between the Russian firms and the Kremlin, but never proved any such link. They are accused of meddling in the 2016 election through emails and social media posts, an accusation that looks shakier by the day.

With that part of his report out of the way, what is left for him to talk about? He himself already gave up on the whole collusion narrative, which would appear to leave only obstruction. Well, there’s the Steele dossier, but with John Solomon blowing another gaping hole in it https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/453384-fbis-spreadsheet-puts-a
-stake-through-the-heart-of-steeles-dossier
yesterday, that may not be the wisest topic to discuss on the House floor. By now, only the very faithful still believe in the dossier.

The Republicans surely don’t, and they also happen to be House members, and [THEY] get to ask questions of Mueller on the 24th. The spectacle last night where Nancy Pelosi insisted on calling Trump a racist was nutty (you don’t do that in the House), but the Mueller hearings promise to be much much more nuts still.

In the background a second investigation is playing out: DOJ IG Michael Horowitz has been probing if DOJ or FBI officials abused their powers to spy on the Trump campaign. His report has been delayed, if reports are correct, because Christopher Steele at the very last minute agreed to testify. Those talks apparently were long and detailed. Wonder what he had to say.

And there’s a third probe too: AG Barr has tasked John Durham, the US

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Friday, July 19, 2019 2:04 AM

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What did I say?



That was old f*cking news when you first posted about it, and now you're trying to take credit for it.
They were negotiating to have him for more time, hence the delay.
You'd have a legit beef with Mueller if he were to dodge subpoenas and refuse to testify like all of the current administration's ex-employees, swamp creatures are doing. What are they afraid of? Nothing says you got something to hide like hiding does.

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Friday, July 19, 2019 2:18 AM

Absolutely nothing is going to come of anything Muller has to say or any of this Russiagate bullshit. It's over. Move on.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 19, 2019 5:59 AM


Only 2,115 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

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Saturday, July 20, 2019 3:21 AM

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Just as a reminder of where all this impeachment stuff is going ...

House Impeachment Effort Goes Down In Flames
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63163

Impeachment flamers.

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THG
Saturday, July 20, 2019 3:51 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What did I say?



That was old f*cking news when you first posted about it, and now you're trying to take credit for it.
They were negotiating to have him for more time, hence the delay.
You'd have a legit beef with Mueller if he were to dodge subpoenas and refuse to testify like all of the current administration's ex-employees, swamp creatures are doing. What are they afraid of? Nothing says you got something to hide like hiding does.



Hey buddy

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THG
Sunday, July 21, 2019 3:41 AM

Microsoft will give away software to guard U.S. voting machines

Microsoft said it was rolling out a free, open source software product called ElectionGuard, which it said uses encryption to "enable a new era of secure, verifiable voting." The company is working with election machine vendors and local governments to deploy the system in a pilot program for the 2020 election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/microsoft-will-give-away-sof
tware-to-guard-us-voting-machines/ar-AAEtuEP?ocid=spartandhp


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