Fascistic immigration policy continues to kill kids
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Did you eat beans or cabbage? Is that why you're farting so much?
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, everybody knows that you and Signym are fucking Russian trolls trying to prove that Democrats are no different than Republicans, but what I wrote, which you didn't understand one word of because it's not in Russian:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did you eat beans or cabbage? Is that why you're farting so much?
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:You are quoting the Daily Caller: https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/12/obama-administration-deleted-ice-sp
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Obama Admin Purged 12 Years Of ICE Speeches On Immigration Crisis Hours Before Trump Inauguration
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
eeches/
You can trace the missing ICE speeches to https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
s
Picking one speech at random: "CONCLUSION
ICE takes employee misconduct extremely seriously, and we are heavily invested in addressing these issues to ensure that ICE upholds the public trust and conducts its mission with integrity and professionalism. Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today, and I would now be pleased to answer any questions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221213953/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120801ragsdale.pdf
What a scandal! Somebody should read those speeches to discover more scandals.
Here is another scandal:"CONCLUSION
ICE is committed to promoting national security and has made significant progress in identifying and preventing terrorists from exploiting the visa process.
Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today and for your continued support of ICE and its law enforcement mission.
I would be pleased to answer any questions at this time."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221101610/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120718woods.pdf
Maybe one more missing speech chosen at random will reveal the true nature of the scandal:"CONCLUSION
Thank you again for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss our efforts to combat the money laundering threat to the United States and our response to the innovative techniques being used by TCOs.
I would be pleased to answer any questions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221111328/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120717winchell.pdf
All these ICE speeches also show in the Congressional record. The last one for example:
www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/STMT - WINCHELL-Leigh (ICE).pdf
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yep, beans or cabbage.
Let me point out btw that I could probably randomly find hundreds of innocuous quotes from - say - Mein Kampf. But random innocuous quotes don't negate the damning ones also found there.
And you're too much of a fucking loser for me to bother looking, but in the past I found, posted, AND LINKED more than a dozen articles showing the Obama administration separated far more families than Trump; and that his policies were at least as bad, and even more vigorously pursued. Obama and Trump ARE the same on immigration - except Obama was worse.
You're a gasbag who farts endlessly.
And thanks for the quotable quote!
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:1kiki, everybody knows that you and Signym are fucking Russian trolls trying to prove that Democrats are no different than Republicans, but what I wrote, which you didn't understand one word of because it's not in Russian:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did you eat beans or cabbage? Is that why you're farting so much?
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tacQuote:You are quoting the Daily Caller: https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/12/obama-administration-deleted-ice-sp
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Obama Admin Purged 12 Years Of ICE Speeches On Immigration Crisis Hours Before Trump Inauguration
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
eeches/
You can trace the missing ICE speeches to https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
s
Picking one speech at random: "CONCLUSION
ICE takes employee misconduct extremely seriously, and we are heavily invested in addressing these issues to ensure that ICE upholds the public trust and conducts its mission with integrity and professionalism. Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today, and I would now be pleased to answer any questions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221213953/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120801ragsdale.pdf
What a scandal! Somebody should read those speeches to discover more scandals.
Here is another scandal:"CONCLUSION
ICE is committed to promoting national security and has made significant progress in identifying and preventing terrorists from exploiting the visa process.
Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today and for your continued support of ICE and its law enforcement mission.
I would be pleased to answer any questions at this time."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221101610/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120718woods.pdf
Maybe one more missing speech chosen at random will reveal the true nature of the scandal:"CONCLUSION
Thank you again for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss our efforts to combat the money laundering threat to the United States and our response to the innovative techniques being used by TCOs.
I would be pleased to answer any questions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221111328/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120717winchell.pdf
All these ICE speeches also show in the Congressional record. The last one for example:
www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/STMT - WINCHELL-Leigh (ICE).pdf
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, there is no "scandal" because the "missing" documents are not missing, but remain on the Congressional website and on https://archive.org/web/
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yep, beans or cabbage.
Let me point out btw that I could probably randomly find hundreds of innocuous quotes from - say - Mein Kampf. But random innocuous quotes don't negate the damning ones also found there.
And you're too much of a fucking loser for me to bother looking, but in the past I found, posted, AND LINKED more than a dozen articles showing the Obama administration separated far more families than Trump; and that his policies were at least as bad, and even more vigorously pursued. Obama and Trump ARE the same on immigration - except Obama was worse.
You're a gasbag who farts endlessly.
And thanks for the quotable quote!
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac
It is so easy to find, 1kiki. Here is the oldest "missing" document.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161228213353/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/0402BudgetTestimony.pdf
"Conclusion
Deterring illegal migration and combating immigration-related crime have never been more critical to our national security. The men and women of ICE are tackling this challenging mission with diligence, determined to ensure that no duty is neglected. The President’s FY 2005 Budget Request for ICE is an important step in restoring the rule of law the system of legal immigration. We are eager to work with you and the other Members of Congress to provide the American people with the level of security they demand and deserve. Thank you. I look forward to your questions."
And the second oldest document isn't "missing", either:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221051744/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/oppredator_030404.pdf
"MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss Operation Predator, one of the priority initiatives of the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
In July of last year, Secretary' Ridge joined forces with John Walsh (“America’s Most Wanted”) and Ernie Allen, of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC), to launch Operation Predator, a program to target some of the most heinous criminals on our streets - those who sexually abuse children."
1kiki, nothing is "missing". There is no Obama-based scandal.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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THANKS for arguing a point I DIDN'T make. I didn't call it a scandal. I pointed that just because you found a few (2?) random quotes that may have been innocuous, it didn't absolve the entire contents of all the documents, nor refute Obama's damning statements already quoted. And then I pointed out that Obama's record on illegal immigrants was far worse than Trump's.
But since you couldn't even address either with facts and logic, you resorted to farting, by ignoring my actual statements, and refuting statements I never made.
Again.
You really are a gassy farter, aren't you?
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, you are a dimwit. Signym points to an untrue scandal about missing documents that are not missing: "A collection of 190 transcripts of speeches on ICE’s website was deleted on Jan. 18 and late in the evening on Jan. 19, 2017. With a couple of clicks of a mouse, access to a federal government web resource containing 12 years of primary source materials on ICE’s history was lost."
Originally posted by 1kiki:
THANKS for arguing a point I DIDN'T make. I didn't call it a scandal. I pointed that just because you found a few random quotes that may have been innocuous, it didn't absolve the entire contents of all the documents.
But since you couldn't refute either point with facts and logic, you resorted to farting. Again.
You really are a gassy farter, aren't you?
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Not one word that Signym wrote was true. Signym spread a complete lie. Those documents are still available. I showed 1kiki where the documents are and even quoted from them, but 1kiki is dumber and more dishonest than even Signym is here:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62864&mid=10774
73#1077473
Quote:1kiki, you pointed to nothing, but rather just declared out of thin air something you didn't bother to prove in order to continue your signature: And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
And then I pointed out that Obama's record on illegal immigrants was far worse than Trump's.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Here's the short and curly - find those 'non-missing' documents from Signy's post. You have everything you need. Your link, the month and year, speaker, and in one case the title.
In fact, I'll make it super easy.
Your link
https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
s
Identifying information
February 2016 Homan "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis"
May 2016 Homan (sanctuary cities)
With your superior knowledge and skills, I expect you to fetch these right quick.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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I have been ignoring this thread, largely because it started as a Troll thread, and I assumed it continued that way.
But now I find some pertinent posts hidden in this thread.
Here is one:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Obama Admin Purged 12 Years Of ICE Speeches On Immigration Crisis Hours Before Trump Inauguration
Hours before President Trump took office, the Obama administration scrambled to purge 12 years worth of transcripts spanning hundreds of speeches from the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) website, according to the Daily Caller's Jason Hopkins.
An Internet Archive Wayback Machine capture of the “Speeches and Testimonies” page from late in the evening of January 19, 2017. (via the Sunlight Foundation)
A collection of 190 transcripts of speeches on ICE’s website was deleted on Jan. 18 and late in the evening on Jan. 19, 2017, according to research conducted by the Sunlight Foundation, a nonpartisan organization that advocates for government transparency. Statements made by high-ranking ICE officials regarding controversial immigration topics such as sanctuary cities, E-Verify, treatment of detainees, and other issues were included in the reported deletions. -Daily Caller
"With a couple of clicks of a mouse, access to a federal government web resource containing 12 years of primary source materials on ICE’s history was lost," wrote the Sunlight Foundation, adding that speeches dating back to 2004 were included in the purge.
The Caller notes that speeches from former acting ICE Director Thomas Homan were "prominently included in the deletion list," including a February 2016 speech in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee in which Homan discussed that "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis," which the Obama administration was grappling to manage at the southern border.
Another example cited by the Caller was a transcript from May 2016 in which Homan explained why sanctuary cities (and counties, and states) put "the public at risk," according to the report.
The Sunlight Foundation offered the following commentary to explain the purge:
"It is not inconceivable that an outgoing Democratic administration might want to avoid preserving these public stances for future scrutiny," adding "The removal of the ICE speeches collection represents the loss of a primary source history of the early days of ICE, dating back to its creation during the George W. Bush administration in 2003."
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Here is another:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Fascistic" immigration policy continues to prevent child trafficking and child exploitationQuote:MORE AT https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/dn
Monday, May 20, 2019
DNA tests reveal 30% of suspected fraudulent migrant families were unrelated
Some of the migrant families arrested at the southern border weren't actually families.
In a pilot program, approximately 30% of rapid DNA tests of immigrant adults who were suspected of arriving at the southern border with children who weren't theirs revealed the adults were not related to the children, an official involved in the system's temporary rollout who asked to be anonymous in order to speak freely told the Washington Examiner Friday.
"There’s been some concern about, 'Are they stepfathers or adopted fathers?'" the official said. "Those were not the case. In these cases, they are misrepresented as family members."
In some incidents where Immigration and Customs Enforcement told the adults they would have to take a cheek swab to verify a relationship with a minor, several admitted the child was not related and did not take the DNA test, which was designed by a U.S. company.
The pilot lasted a few days earlier this month and was used only in McAllen, Texas, and El Paso, Texas. ICE said the Department of Homeland Security would look at the results to determine if it will be part of its comprehensive solution to border issues. Homeland Security has not issued a public statement on its intentions going forward.
a-tests-reveal-30-of-suspected-fraudulent-migrant-families-were-unrelated
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You got those 'non-missing' documents yet, old fart?
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Here's the short and curly - find those 'non-missing' documents from Signy's post. You have everything you need. Your link, the month and year, speaker, and in one case the title.
In fact, I'll make it super easy.
Your link
https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
s
Identifying information
February 2016 Homan "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis"
May 2016 Homan (sanctuary cities)
With your superior knowledge and skills, I expect you to fetch these right quick.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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