Trump's Budget
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Monday, July 13, 2026 16:10
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Updated with today's MTS.
I think I will go forward with data from the Monthly Treasury Statement each month. It has already been shown that CBO distorts and Fakes their data, and the more accurate MTS is usually less than a week later.
I won't redo all the past years, but will look up the FY2019 data.
The projected Deficit numbers will continue to be from CBO, since I have not seen Treasury delve into that. I should check OMB.
https://fiscal.treasury.gov/reports-statements/mts/
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0219.p
df
CBO still has this new format to their report, which again tried to hide the numbers, since highly partisan Deep State CBO was too incompetent to report clearly.
This looks like an interesting resource linky:
https://www.cbo.gov/about/products/major-recurring-reports#9
https://WWW.CBO.Gov/about/press-center
Apr 2018 CBO estimate:
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53821#section2
These data sources actually seem to correlate to the figures in the Budget Statements.
I'll try to post some data to breakdown how the projections progress.
The 1st column is Category and Fiscal Year. Categories are Revenue, Outlays, Surplus/Deficit (estimate) and Surplus/Deficit (Actual, or corrected). Projected is the figure that CBO projected for the FY, most recent at the time of the report. Proportional Percent is the cumulative Deficit compared to the actual FY Total. For the newest year, % Projection is based upon the historical proportion for that month of the cycle.
Each FY has 2 groups. First group is the individual month data. Second group is the cumulative Deficit for that FY so far.
Figures in Billions.
CatFY Octo Nove Dece Janu Febr Marc Apri MayM June July Augu Sept
Rev16 $211 $205 $350 $314 $169 $228 $438 $225 $330 $210 $231 $358
Out16 $347 $270 $364 $258 $362 $336 $332 $277 $323 $323 $338 $323
S/D16 -136 -$65 -$14 +$55 -193 -108 +106 -$53 +$06 -113 -107 +$35
Rev16 $211 $416 $766 1079 1248 1476 1915 2139 2469 2679 2910 3268
Out16 $347 $617 $981 1240 1601 1936 2268 2545 2868 3191 3529 3852
S/D16 -136 -201 -216 -160 -353 -459 -353 -405 -399 -512 -619 -585
Projt -414 -414 -414 -544 -544 -534 -534 -534 -534 -534 -590 -590
Port% 23.2 34.4 36.9 27.4 60.3 78.5 60.3 69.2 68.2 87.5 106% 100%
Rev17 $222 $200 $319 $344 $172 $217 $456 $240 $339 $231 $226 $348
Out17 $267 $337 $347 $293 $364 $393 $273 $327 $426 $276 $336 $342
S/D17 -$46 -137 -$27 +$51 -192 -176 +182 -$87 -$87 -$45 -109 +$06
Rev17 $222 $422 $741 1085 1257 1473 1929 2168 2509 2738 2966 3314
Out17 $267 $604 $951 1243 1607 2000 2273 2600 3028 3307 3642 3982
S/D17 -$46 -183 -210 -159 -351 -527 -344 -432 -520 -568 -675 -668
Projt -594 -594 -594 -559 -559 -559 -559 -559 -693 -693 -693 -693
Port% 06.9 27.5 31.6 23.9 52.8 79.2 51.7 65.0 78.2 85.4 101% 100%
Rev18 $235 $210 $326 $362 $157 $213 $515 $217 $314 $225 $219 $343
Out18 $299 $344 $352 $311 $373 $420 $297 $361 $389 $301 $430 $227
SDEst -6$2 -134 -$26 +$51 -216 -207 +218 -144 -$75 -$75 -211 +116
Act18 -$63 -139 -$23 +$49 -215 -209 +214 -146 -$74 -$77 -214 +118
Rev18 $235 $445 $770 1131 1287 1499 2012 2224 2539 2766 2985 3328
Out18 $299 $643 $998 1306 1679 2097 2394 2754 3146 3448 3880 4110
SDEst -6$2 -198 -228 -174 -392 -598 -382 -530 -607 -682 -894 -782
Act18 -$63 -202 -225 -176 -391 -600 -386 -532 -606 -683 -897 -779
Projt -873 -873 -873 -873 -873 -873 -804 -792 -793 -793 -793 -793
%Prj7 -911 -734 -713 -736 -741 -757 -747 -815 -776 -799 -885 -782
%Prj6 -271 -588 -609 -644 -648 -765 -640 -766 -890 -779 -845 -782
Port% 08.1 25.9 28.9 22.6 50.2 77.0 49.6 74.7 77.8 87.7 115% 100%
Rev19 $253 $205 $312 $340 $171
Out19 $353 $408 $324 $331 $398
SDEst -$98 -203 -012 +$09 -227
Act19 -100 -205 -013 +$09 -234
Rev19 $253 $458 $771 1111 1282
Out19 $353 $761 1088 1421 1819
SDEst -$98 -303 -317 -310 -537
Act19 -100 -305 -318 -310 -544
Projt -985 -985 -985 -897 -897 -897 -897 -897 -897 -897
%Pjt8 1212
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The U.S. budget deficit widened to $738.6 billion in the first eight months of the fiscal year, a $206 billion increase from a year earlier, despite a revenue boost from President Donald Trump’s tariffs on imported merchandise.
The shortfall was 38.8% more than the same period a year ago, the Treasury Department said in its monthly budget review released on Wednesday.
There are 4 months left in the fiscal year, therefore Trump will easily spend a trillion dollars more in 2019 than he has money to spend. If he can't keep under $trillion deficit when times are good, what will happen when times go bad for Trump?
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-12/u-s-budget-gap-hits-739-bil
lion-with-four-months-left-in-year
See Figure 2 on page 4 of Trump's Treasury Department Report https://fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0519.pdf
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Kind of shocking that you were able to post the same figures that I posted. Didn't know you could read.
Originally posted by second:
The U.S. budget deficit widened to $738.6 billion in the first eight months of the fiscal year, a $206 billion increase from a year earlier, despite a revenue boost from President Donald Trump’s tariffs on imported merchandise.
The shortfall was 38.8% more than the same period a year ago, the Treasury Department said in its monthly budget review released on Wednesday.
There are 4 months left in the fiscal year, therefore Trump will easily spend a trillion dollars more in 2019 than he has money to spend. If he can't keep under $trillion deficit when times are good, what will happen when times go bad for Trump?
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-12/u-s-budget-gap-hits-739-bil
lion-with-four-months-left-in-year
See Figure 2 on page 4 of Trump's Treasury Department Report https://fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0519.pdf
The CBO also pointed out that the $739B includes about $50B in extra Outlays due to timing shifts of payments. June 1st landed on a Saturday, so those payments had to be made on 31 May. Last year those extra June payments were not added to the May Outlays.
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New Report today from CBO: Long Term Outlook for the Budget.
www.cbo.gov/publications/55331
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And with today's new GDP data:
$195.0 B for 2019Q2 (est). More than I expected, and enough to surpass the 4-Quarter $1 T Mark.
The 4th consecutive Quarter showing the prior 4 Quarters increased more than $1 Trillion GDP - which never before happened in a 4 Quarter span.
The last several reports have been persistently rounding off the figure totals by 3 or 4 digits, so that the figures I'm posting are based upon addition, stacked many times, and could be subject to correction.
Here I'll include a column showing how far behind the pace the Obamanomics years were.
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This data does appear to be listed under Calendar Year Quarters as opposed to Fiscal Year Quarters elsewhere.
Yes, this is Table.1.1.5 (use the Modify button to adjust dates) at this link:
https://bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?
This GDP data is from BEA News Release Archives. Current-Dollar GDP.
I noticed a trend among the BEA data. The figures from BEA do not match other info. But they make monthly reports, each Quarter has an Advanced Estimate, then 2nd Estimate, then 3rd Estimate, before the final figure.
With new data from 27 July 2018:
Yr FY Qrtr1 FY Qrtr2 FY Qrtr3 FY Qrtr4 FiscalYr CalndrYr Paced FY
00 09890.4 10002.9 10247.7 10319.8 10107.4 10252.3
01 10439.0 10472.9 10597.8 10596.3 10526.5 10581.8 10659.7 --133
02 10660.3 10789.0 10893.2 10992.1 10833.6 10936.4 11212.0 --380
03 11071.5 11183.5 11312.9 11567.3 11283.8 11458.2 11764.3 --460
04 11769.3 11920.2 12109.0 12303.3 12025.4 12213.7 12316.5 --291
05 12522.4 12761.3 12910.0 13142.9 12834.1 13036.6 12868.8 --55
06 13332.3 13603.9 13749.8 13867.5 13638.4 13814.6 13421.1 +217
07 14037.2 14208.6 14382.4 14535.0 14290.8 14451.9 13973.3 +317
08 14681.5 14651.0 14805.6 14835.2 14743.3 14712.8 14525.6 +218
09 14559.5 14394.5 14352.9 14420.3 14431.9 14448.9 15077.9 --646
10 14628.0 14721.4 14926.1 15079.9 14838.8 14992.3 15630.2 --791
11 15240.8 15285.8 15496.2 15591.9 15403.7 15542.6 16182.5 --779
12 15796.5 16019.8 16152.3 16257.2 16056.4 16197.0 16735.8 --679
13 16358.9 16569.6 16637.9 16848.7 16944.3 16784.9 17288.1 --344
14 17083.1 17102.9 17425.8 17719.8 17392.7 17521.7 17840.3 --448
15 17838.5 17970.4 18221.3 18331.1 18090.3 18219.3 18392.6 --302
16 18354.4 18409.1 18640.7 18799.6 18551.0 18707.2 18944.8 --394
17 18979.2 19162.6 19359.1 19588.1 19272.3 19485.4 19497.1 --225
18 19831.8 20041.0 20411.9 20658.2 20210.7 20500.6 20049.4 +161
19 20865.1 21060.1
This data meshes well. Taking the average of the 4 FY Quarters produces the FY figure listed by Treasury, except for FY 2017. This is because each quarter has the data multiplied by 4, to present as a full year's rate.
Something to note: Obama constantly projected that he would generate repeated increases to GDP of over $1 Trillion from one year to the next. Yet Obamanomics never allowed growth like that to occur. Not one single year did the GDP grow by $1 Trillion. Not during Obamanomics, nor ever before. But Trump accomplishes this feat, in only his very first full year - even though Obama's overly optimistic predictions did not identify it would be possible this soon.
Peak Quarters of growth: (including all-time Top 10 prior to Trump)
370.9 FY2018 Q3 (new data)
322.9 FY2014 Q3
294.0 FY2014 Q4
271.6 FY2006 Q2
254.4 FY2003 Q4
250.9 FY2015 Q3
246.3 FY2018 Q4
244.8 FY2000 Q3
243.7 FY2018 Q1
238.9 FY2005 Q2
234.4 FY2014 Q1
232.9 FY2005 Q4
233.2 FY2019 Q1 (est)
231.6 FY2016 Q3
229.0 FY2017 Q4
Clearly, 2nd Quarters are a tough nut to crack. So here are top Q2s:
Using revised data of July 2018:
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Updated with today's CBO.
I think I will go forward with data from the Monthly Treasury Statement each month. It has already been shown that CBO distorts and Fakes their data, and the more accurate MTS is usually less than a week later.
I won't redo all the past years, but will look up the FY2019 data.
The projected Deficit numbers will continue to be from CBO, since I have not seen Treasury delve into that. I should check OMB.
https://fiscal.treasury.gov/reports-statements/mts/
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0219.p
df
CBO still has this new format to their report, which again tried to hide the numbers, since highly partisan Deep State CBO was too incompetent to report clearly.
This looks like an interesting resource linky:
https://www.cbo.gov/about/products/major-recurring-reports#9
https://WWW.CBO.Gov/about/press-center
Apr 2018 CBO estimate:
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53821#section2
These data sources actually seem to correlate to the figures in the Budget Statements.
I'll try to post some data to breakdown how the projections progress.
The 1st column is Category and Fiscal Year. Categories are Revenue, Outlays, Surplus/Deficit (estimate) and Surplus/Deficit (Actual, or corrected). Projected is the figure that CBO projected for the FY, most recent at the time of the report. Proportional Percent is the cumulative Deficit compared to the actual FY Total. For the newest year, % Projection is based upon the historical proportion for that month of the cycle.
Each FY has 2 groups. First group is the individual month data. Second group is the cumulative Deficit for that FY so far.
Figures in Billions.
CatFY Octo Nove Dece Janu Febr Marc Apri MayM June July Augu Sept
Rev16 $211 $205 $350 $314 $169 $228 $438 $225 $330 $210 $231 $358
Out16 $347 $270 $364 $258 $362 $336 $332 $277 $323 $323 $338 $323
S/D16 -136 -$65 -$14 +$55 -193 -108 +106 -$53 +$06 -113 -107 +$35
Rev16 $211 $416 $766 1079 1248 1476 1915 2139 2469 2679 2910 3268
Out16 $347 $617 $981 1240 1601 1936 2268 2545 2868 3191 3529 3852
S/D16 -136 -201 -216 -160 -353 -459 -353 -405 -399 -512 -619 -585
Projt -414 -414 -414 -544 -544 -534 -534 -534 -534 -534 -590 -590
Port% 23.2 34.4 36.9 27.4 60.3 78.5 60.3 69.2 68.2 87.5 106% 100%
Rev17 $222 $200 $319 $344 $172 $217 $456 $240 $339 $231 $226 $348
Out17 $267 $337 $347 $293 $364 $393 $273 $327 $426 $276 $336 $342
S/D17 -$46 -137 -$27 +$51 -192 -176 +182 -$87 -$87 -$45 -109 +$06
Rev17 $222 $422 $741 1085 1257 1473 1929 2168 2509 2738 2966 3314
Out17 $267 $604 $951 1243 1607 2000 2273 2600 3028 3307 3642 3982
S/D17 -$46 -183 -210 -159 -351 -527 -344 -432 -520 -568 -675 -668
Projt -594 -594 -594 -559 -559 -559 -559 -559 -693 -693 -693 -693
Port% 06.9 27.5 31.6 23.9 52.8 79.2 51.7 65.0 78.2 85.4 101% 100%
Rev18 $235 $210 $326 $362 $157 $213 $515 $217 $314 $225 $219 $343
Out18 $299 $344 $352 $311 $373 $420 $297 $361 $389 $301 $430 $227
SDEst -6$2 -134 -$26 +$51 -216 -207 +218 -144 -$75 -$75 -211 +116
Act18 -$63 -139 -$23 +$49 -215 -209 +214 -146 -$74 -$77 -214 +118
Rev18 $235 $445 $770 1131 1287 1499 2012 2224 2539 2766 2985 3328
Out18 $299 $643 $998 1306 1679 2097 2394 2754 3146 3448 3880 4110
SDEst -$62 -198 -228 -174 -392 -598 -382 -530 -607 -682 -894 -782
Act18 -$63 -202 -225 -176 -391 -600 -386 -532 -606 -683 -897 -779
Projt -873 -873 -873 -873 -873 -873 -804 -792 -793 -793 -793 -793
%Prj7 -911 -734 -713 -736 -741 -757 -747 -815 -776 -799 -885 -782
%Prj6 -271 -588 -609 -644 -648 -765 -640 -766 -890 -779 -845 -782
Port% 08.1 25.9 28.9 22.6 50.2 77.0 49.6 74.7 77.8 87.7 115% 100%
Rev19 $253 $205 $312 $340 $171
Out19 $353 $408 $324 $331 $398
SDEst -$98 -203 -012 +$09 -227
Act19 -100 -205 -013 +$09 -234
Rev19 $253 $458 $771 1111 1282
Out19 $353 $761 1088 1421 1819
SDEst -$98 -303 -317 -310 -537
Act19 -100 -305 -318 -310 -544
Projt -985 -985 -985 -897 -897 -897 -897 -897 -897 -897
%Pjt8 1212
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Trump increased the National Debt by $2 trillion to $22 trillion. This happened while he bragged about how great the economy was. If the economy really was so great and he was collecting all the taxes that were due, but people cheated on, the Debt would be decreasing, not increasing. Even worse, when the economy eventually becomes less and less great than it is now, the Debt will increase faster and faster. Donald is doing a hell of a job.
www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401
www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=19&am
p;startYear=2017&endMonth=07&endDay=08&endYear=2019
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Yes, the projections under the Obama/Hilliary dismal plan were to have the Debt increase 2.5 Trillion by now. Plus continue the horrendous Economy that they mastered.
Originally posted:
Trump increased the National Debt by $2 trillion to $22 trillion. This happened while he bragged about how great the economy was. If the economy really was so great and he was collecting all the taxes that were due, but people cheated on, the Debt would be decreasing, not increasing. Even worse, when the economy eventually becomes less and less great than it is now, the Debt will increase faster and faster. Donald is doing a hell of a job.
www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401
www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=19&am
p;startYear=2017&endMonth=07&endDay=08&endYear=2019
I am sure everybody is dismayed that Trump has not increased the Debt at the rate expected by Libtard bodies that the Dems would have.
Not to mention that extra windfall they we'll be getting from the Tax Reform package.
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Quote:That is the dumbest argument. Trump increased the National Debt by $2 Trillion but Hillary might have, maybe, gone to $2.5 Trillion. Then again, maybe she could not because Hillary would not sign the Tax Cut that Trump signed, the one that is predicted to increase the National Debt by $1 Trillion per year from here to Eternity. Good job, Donald! Hillary couldn't have done it!
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Yes, the projections under the Obama/Hilliary dismal plan were to have the Debt increase 2.5 Trillion by now. Plus continue the horrendous Economy that they mastered.
Originally posted:
Trump increased the National Debt by $2 trillion to $22 trillion. This happened while he bragged about how great the economy was. If the economy really was so great and he was collecting all the taxes that were due, but people cheated on, the Debt would be decreasing, not increasing. Even worse, when the economy eventually becomes less and less great than it is now, the Debt will increase faster and faster. Donald is doing a hell of a job.
www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401
www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=19&am
p;startYear=2017&endMonth=07&endDay=08&endYear=2019
I am sure everybody is dismayed that Trump has not increased the Debt at the rate expected by Libtard bodies that the Dems would have.
Not to mention that extra windfall they we'll be getting from the Tax Reform package.
www.businessinsider.com/us-budget-deficit-779-billion-highest-since-20
12-2018-10
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:You should try reading the news sometime. Even the Deep State admits that Trump's Tax Reform will be saving more than a $Trillion in the next 15 years.
Originally posted by second:Quote:That is the dumbest argument. Trump increased the National Debt by $2 Trillion but Hillary might have, maybe, gone to $2.5 Trillion. Then again, maybe she could not because Hillary would not sign the Tax Cut that Trump signed, the one that is predicted to increase the National Debt by $1 Trillion per year from here to Eternity. Good job, Donald! Hillary couldn't have done it!
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Yes, the projections under the Obama/Hilliary dismal plan were to have the Debt increase 2.5 Trillion by now. Plus continue the horrendous Economy that they mastered.
Originally posted:
Trump increased the National Debt by $2 trillion to $22 trillion. This happened while he bragged about how great the economy was. If the economy really was so great and he was collecting all the taxes that were due, but people cheated on, the Debt would be decreasing, not increasing. Even worse, when the economy eventually becomes less and less great than it is now, the Debt will increase faster and faster. Donald is doing a hell of a job.
www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401
www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=19&am
p;startYear=2017&endMonth=07&endDay=08&endYear=2019
I am sure everybody is dismayed that Trump has not increased the Debt at the rate expected by Libtard bodies that the Dems would have.
Not to mention that extra windfall they we'll be getting from the Tax Reform package.
www.businessinsider.com/us-budget-deficit-779-billion-highest-since-20
12-2018-10
The projections of Dem disaster was already in the Budgets from Obama, no new or further updates were needed. But Trump has vastly reduced those.
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