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The secret plot to depose Trump

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WISHIMAY

Friday, June 7, 2019 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by JUSTASTUPIDFUCK:
she is a Libtard, here is a perfect example!

All you've got is "No I'm not, you are!"

Call me when someone interesting shows up

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 7, 2019 6:31 PM

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Born and raised in Nilbog (Bam-ba-Lam)
Pilled up in a fog (Bam-ba-Lam)
Got the brains of a child (Bam-ba-Lam)
So easily riled (Bam-ba-Lam)
Her thoughts so petty (Bam-ba-Lam)
Whoa, Bung Betty (Bam-ba-Lam)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, June 7, 2019 10:52 PM

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Mueller Caught In Another Deception; Key 'Russia Link' Exposed As Informant For US, Ukraine

The title says "another" deception, I'll get to the first one in my next post

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A Ukrainian businessman painted in the Mueller report as a sinister link to Russia was actually a "sensitive" intelligence source for the US State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian issues - and passed messages between the Washington and Kiev, according to The Hill's John Solomon.

Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked for Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, was described on page 6 of the Mueller report as having "ties to Russian intelligence" - and was cast in a sinister light as a potential threat to democracy. Mueller completely omitted the fact that Kilimnik was working as an informant and intermediary between America and Ukraine, and subsequently indicted him for obstruction of justice.

Once again, Ukraine NOT RUSSIA.

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Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

He interacted with the chief political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, sometimes meeting several times a week to provide information on the Ukraine government. He relayed messages back to Ukraine's leaders and delivered written reports to U.S. officials via emails that stretched on for thousands of words, the memos show.

The FBI knew all of this, well before the Mueller investigation concluded. -The Hill

What's more, the chief political officer at the Kiev embassy from 2014 to 2017, Alan Purcell, told the FBI that State officials - including senior embassy officials Alexander Kasanof and Eric Schultz, thought Klimnik was such a valuable asset that they wouldn't mention his name in official cables out of fear that WikiLeaks would expose him.

"Purcell described what he considered an unusual level of discretion that was taken with handling Kilimnik," said one FBI interview report reviewed by Solomon. "Normally the head of the political section would not handle sources, but Kasanof informed Purcell that KILIMNIK was a sensitive source."

Purcell told the FBI that Kilimnik provided "detailed information about OB (Ukraine's opposition bloc) inner workings" that sometimes was so valuable it was forwarded immediately to the ambassador. Purcell learned that other Western governments relied on Kilimnik as a source, too.

"One time, in a meeting with the Italian embassy, Purcell heard the Italian ambassador echo a talking point that was strikingly familiar to the point Kilimnik had shared with Purcell," the FBI report states. -The Hill

And Mueller mentioned none of this in his report despite knowing about it since 2018 - more than a year before the final report.

Three sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of Mueller's office confirmed to me that the special prosecutor's team had all of the FBI interviews with State officials, as well as Kilimnik's intelligence reports to the U.S. Embassy, well before they portrayed him as a Russian sympathizer tied to Moscow intelligence or charged Kilimnik with participating with Manafort in a scheme to obstruct the Russia investigation. -The Hill

Kilimnik was described by Purcell's predecessor, Alexander Kasanov, as one of the few reliable informants spying on former Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych, whose Party of Regions had hired Manafort's lobbying firm.

Kasanof described Kilimnik as one of the few reliable insiders the U.S. Embassy had informing on Yanukovych. Kilimnik began his relationship as an informant with the U.S. deputy chief of mission in 2012-13, before being handed off to the embassy's political office, the records suggest.

"Kilimnik was one of the only people within the administration who was willing to talk to USEMB," referring to the U.S. embassy, and he "provided information about the inner workings of Yanuko

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SIGNYM

Friday, June 7, 2019 11:03 PM

This is the first deceptively-edited piece in the Mueller report:

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Mueller deceptively edited Trump’s lawyer’s call to make them look worse

Mueller left key information out of his report. He deceptively edited a phone call made by Trump’s attorney to make Trump and his attorney look worse. What else did Mueller and his team lie about?

The actual transcript of a phone call between Trump’s attorney John Dowd and Michael Flynn’s was released Friday night by court order. It is not the same transcript in the Mueller report [which was] selectively edited to make the Trump team look worse and potentially guilty of obstruction.

The leaked call was part of the Mueller investigation into obstruction.

The Mueller report left out the context and a qualifier, namely, Dowd wanted to know if he could give him a “heads up” if he knew of information that “implicates the President. What Mueller left out included this phrase: “without having to give up any…um confidential information. so, uhm, if it’s the former, then you know.”

Dowd said he wanted to know if there was a “national security issue, I don’t know, some issue, we got to…we got to deal with, not only for the President but for the country.” That was edited out too.

The Trump attorney, John Dowd, wasn’t looking for confidential information and he was seeking information for the entire country, not just the President’s legal team in the event there was a national security issue involved.

Dowd was none too happy about the deception in the Mueller report.

“This is clearly a baseless, political document designed to smear and damage the reputation of counsel and innocent people,” Dowd said in a statement Friday.

Link to actual transcript can be found here
https://www.independentsentinel.com/mueller-deceptively-edited-trumps-
lawyers-call-to-make-them-look-worse/

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Friday, June 7, 2019 11:14 PM

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If you could read or think you'd know it's NOT a contradiction. Most people's brains stop growing around 25, however with Trumpsberger's... your brain stopped growing at 12.- TWITCHY

Says the woman-child who's stuck in the trauma of 30 years ago?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:17 AM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well that theory would be in direct contradiction to your argument to me last week that kids are kids until they're 25 years old.
If you could read or think you'd know it's NOT a contradiction. Most people's brains stop growing around 25, however with Trumpsberger's... your brain stopped growing at 12.

25 is not the same as 12. See the difference?? I know they look alike...They both have 2's in them.

*Wishy throws ball.

Go get it...Go get the ball. Good brain-damaged boy!

Nilbog.

Misery.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:22 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is the first deceptively-edited piece in the Mueller report:

Quote:
Mueller deceptively edited Trump’s lawyer’s call to make them look worse

Mueller left key information out of his report. He deceptively edited a phone call made by Trump’s attorney to make Trump and his attorney look worse. What else did Mueller and his team lie about?

The actual transcript of a phone call between Trump’s attorney John Dowd and Michael Flynn’s was released Friday night by court order. It is not the same transcript in the Mueller report [which was] selectively edited to make the Trump team look worse and potentially guilty of obstruction.

The leaked call was part of the Mueller investigation into obstruction.

The Mueller report left out the context and a qualifier, namely, Dowd wanted to know if he could give him a “heads up” if he knew of information that “implicates the President. What Mueller left out included this phrase: “without having to give up any…um confidential information. so, uhm, if it’s the former, then you know.”

Dowd said he wanted to know if there was a “national security issue, I don’t know, some issue, we got to…we got to deal with, not only for the President but for the country.” That was edited out too.

The Trump attorney, John Dowd, wasn’t looking for confidential information and he was seeking information for the entire country, not just the President’s legal team in the event there was a national security issue involved.

Dowd was none too happy about the deception in the Mueller report.

“This is clearly a baseless, political document designed to smear and damage the reputation of counsel and innocent people,” Dowd said in a statement Friday.
Link to actual transcript can be found here
https://www.independentsentinel.com/mueller-deceptively-edited-trumps-
lawyers-call-to-make-them-look-worse/

These are known as Kutlerisms. Stanley Kutler was supposed to transcribe the White House Tapes from Nixon, but he intentionally mis-translated any passage which could make Nixon look bad. For instance, every time Nixon said "Buck up" or similar, Kutler would translate that to F*ck Up.

1KIKI

Saturday, June 8, 2019 3:34 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Mueller Caught In Another Deception; Key 'Russia Link' Exposed As Informant For US, Ukraine

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Kilimnik was not just any run-of-the-mill source, either.

He interacted with the chief political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, sometimes meeting several times a week to provide information on the Ukraine government. He relayed messages back to Ukraine's leaders and delivered written reports to U.S. officials via emails that stretched on for thousands of words, the memos show.

The FBI knew all of this, well before the Mueller investigation concluded. -The Hill

Three sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of Mueller's office confirmed to me that the special prosecutor's team had all of the FBI interviews with State officials, as well as Kilimnik's intelligence reports to the U.S. Embassy, well before they portrayed him as a Russian sympathizer tied to Moscow intelligence or charged Kilimnik with participating with Manafort in a scheme to obstruct the Russia investigation. -The Hill

"Kasanof met with Kilimnik at least bi-weekly and occasionally multiple times in the same week," always outside the embassy to avoid detection, the FBI wrote. "Kasanof allowed Kilimnik to take the lead on operational security" for their meetings. -The Hill

And, despite the Mueller report suggesting Kilimnik is a Russian stooge, state officials told the FBI that he did not appear to hold any allegiance to the Kremlin, and had been "flabbergasted at the Russian invasion of Crimea."

And Mueller mentioned none of this in his report despite knowing about it since 2018 - more than a year before the final report.

Originally linked to https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/447394-key-figure-that-mueller
-report-linked-to-russia-was-a-state-department

This is the first deceptively-edited piece in the Mueller report:

Quote:
Mueller deceptively edited Trump’s lawyer’s call to make them look worse

The actual transcript of a phone call between Trump’s attorney John Dowd and Michael Flynn’s was released Friday night by court order. It is not the same transcript in the Mueller report [which was] selectively edited to make the Trump team look worse and potentially guilty of obstruction.

The leaked call was part of the Mueller investigation into obstruction.

The Mueller report left out the context and a qualifier, namely, Dowd wanted to know if he could give him a “heads up” if he knew of information that “implicates the President. What Mueller left out included this phrase: “without having to give up any…um confidential information. so, uhm, if it’s the former, then you know.”

Dowd said he wanted to know if there was a “national security issue, I don’t know, some issue, we got to…we got to deal with, not only for the President but for the country.” That was edited out too.

The Trump attorney, John Dowd, wasn’t looking for confidential information and he was seeking information for the entire country, not just the President’s legal team in the event there was a national security issue involved.

Dowd was none too happy about the deception in the Mueller report.

“This is clearly a baseless, political document designed to smear and damage the reputation of counsel and innocent people,” Dowd said in a statement Friday.
Link to actual transcript can be found here
https://www.independentsentinel.com/mueller-deceptively-edited-trumps-
lawyers-call-to-make-them-look-worse/

No wonder Mueller refused to testify. He didn't want to be questioned about these things and be stuck having to lie under oath.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

REAVERFAN

Saturday, June 8, 2019 4:57 AM

Wow. The Russian trolls are really reaching.

Hard to justify your existence when you're a useless POS.

1KIKI

Saturday, June 8, 2019 5:04 AM

Anything to say ON TOPIC? For example: do you dispute the facts?

Well, of course you can't. That would make you look - uhm, oh of touch with realty. ie - crazy.

That's why you have to 1) resort to low-level programming or 2) looking like an idiot, instead.

Nuff said. You're a badly programmed bot, or an idiot. Your choice.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac