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Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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SECOND

Sunday, May 12, 2019 5:44 PM

Richard Ben-Veniste, a former Watergate prosecutor, told The Independent that any effort to keep Mr Mueller from testifying is likely to fail.

“I think ultimately Robert Mueller will testify, and that the more the president and his attorney general seek to delay or derail Mueller’s public testimony the more of a political price it will pay in the court of public opinion where people will be asking the logical question: what is the president hiding?” Mr Ben-Veniste said.

He continued: “Why does he fear Mr Mueller’s testimony before a congressional committee that obviously has the ability to provide bipartisan questioning?”

Mr Trump, for his part, has oscillated on the issue, saying at times that he doesn’t know if Mr Mueller should testify, while at other times saying it is either a bad idea or a great idea.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mueller-re
port-watergate-nixon-pelosi-a8909171.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, May 13, 2019 10:25 PM

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The Trolls are still singing, after they singed. These former Prosecutors won't be seen by Barr, because they have already been removed from DOJ.

Dumbest post on the face of the Earth. Barr was recently re-hired from their ranks you nincompoop!

Low budget as ever.

sgg

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, May 13, 2019 10:57 PM

Quote:
All I can say is that I'd bet you'd be very hard pressed to find another 2 year time frame in American history where more politicians and bureaucrats have either quit, resigned, got fired and/or arrested.

No I wouldn't be hard pressed to find a more despicable time in this country's history. Actually it would be a close second to now. The Watergate era once
held the "low" honor of being that "time" in American History. It has roundly been outdone by the Trump era; one of history's greatest infamies.

Quote:
Any time it happens, it brings a smile to my face. Doesn't matter what side they were on.

You care nothing for this country, which means you care nothing about yourself as a part of it. But I don't believe you.

Quote:
If Trump never delivers on a single other campaign promise, the swamp is being drained.

...and this is the reason why. You do care, for whatever reason...you do care.
Jack, stop and think a moment before you respond, will ya!? Those people that
have been arrested, convicted, quit, resigned, lied and generally fucked this country (and every living person within, including you) has been brought in,
and/or introduced by Trump and company. Go ahead, go down the list.

And if you say you don't care, well then, we are fucked. Pack your bags, because the USA as we know it is going Bye-Bye. But I don't believe you. You DO care, or else you wouldn't be here arguing the case of the rich scumbag.
Am I saying that all rich folk are scumbags? No, but most are. Anyone who puts profits over the future of this country is a traitor. No other way to say it.

SGG

SIGNYM

Monday, May 13, 2019 11:22 PM

"S""G""G" ... not true that all of the scumbags that quit, or were fired, or demoted, were brought in by Trump. Many of them were holdovers from previous administration.

You would help YOURSELF if you would be more factual in you thinking, instead of making (and thinking in) sweeping - but wrong- terms.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:
All I can say is that I'd bet you'd be very hard pressed to find another 2 year time frame in American history where more politicians and bureaucrats have either quit, resigned, got fired and/or arrested.

No I wouldn't be hard pressed to find a more despicable time in this country's history. Actually it would be a close second to now. The Watergate era once
held the "low" honor of being that "time" in American History. It has roundly been outdone by the Trump era; one of history's greatest infamies.

Quote:
Any time it happens, it brings a smile to my face. Doesn't matter what side they were on.

You care nothing for this country, which means you care nothing about yourself as a part of it. But I don't believe you.

Quote:
If Trump never delivers on a single other campaign promise, the swamp is being drained.

...and this is the reason why. You do care, for whatever reason...you do care.
Jack, stop and think a moment before you respond, will ya!? Those people that
have been arrested, convicted, quit, resigned, lied and generally fucked this country (and every living person within, including you) has been brought in,
and/or introduced by Trump and company. Go ahead, go down the list.

And if you say you don't care, well then, we are fucked. Pack your bags, because the USA as we know it is going Bye-Bye. But I don't believe you. You DO care, or else you wouldn't be here arguing the case of the rich scumbag.
Am I saying that all rich folk are scumbags? No, but most are. Anyone who puts profits over the future of this country is a traitor. No other way to say it.

SGG

Well, firstly, read Sigs' post. You may have been told that the long list of people who have been fired, resigned or jailed were all brought in by Trump, but that doesn't mean that it's true.

I do care. VERY MUCH.

As it turned out, the Democrat running against Trump is the very definition of a traitor you describe. I don't know when exactly the Democratic party became the cheerleader for big banks and multi-national corporations, but it happened right under everyone's noses.

There's a small group of Identitarian Socialists that got primaried in, in 2018, the face of which is AOC, but the solutions they're pedaling are even less popular and good for the country than the Establisment Democrats.

Your party is in chaos man, and it's liable to rip itself apart and splinter off into pieces. The Democratic party you once knew and loved is only an empty shell of what it was back in the 60's.

Quote:
There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .

And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . .

So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

~ Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:04 PM

Hey Jack, they need you back on the planet De-lus-ional!
You have been thoroughly brainwashed my friend, you should really see someone
about that, otherwise it could actually mean the End of the World, total chaos!

Seriously...Democrats

Quote:
cheerleader(s) for big banks and multi-national corporations

. Someone make him stop, I'm dying here...lol.
The "law and order" party has slowly and steadily become the party of the lying sacks of shit. The purveyors of Narcissistic Mumbo Jumbo; "Get Out Your Handkerchiefs" everyone, this is a long sad tale.

Away with you, I have no use for such drivel.........

Terribly tragic indeed!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:
All I can say is that I'd bet you'd be very hard pressed to find another 2 year time frame in American history where more politicians and bureaucrats have either quit, resigned, got fired and/or arrested.

No I wouldn't be hard pressed to find a more despicable time in this country's history. Actually it would be a close second to now. The Watergate era once
held the "low" honor of being that "time" in American History. It has roundly been outdone by the Trump era; one of history's greatest infamies.

Quote:
Any time it happens, it brings a smile to my face. Doesn't matter what side they were on.

You care nothing for this country, which means you care nothing about yourself as a part of it. But I don't believe you.

Quote:
If Trump never delivers on a single other campaign promise, the swamp is being drained.

...and this is the reason why. You do care, for whatever reason...you do care.
Jack, stop and think a moment before you respond, will ya!? Those people that
have been arrested, convicted, quit, resigned, lied and generally fucked this country (and every living person within, including you) has been brought in,
and/or introduced by Trump and company. Go ahead, go down the list.

And if you say you don't care, well then, we are fucked. Pack your bags, because the USA as we know it is going Bye-Bye. But I don't believe you. You DO care, or else you wouldn't be here arguing the case of the rich scumbag.
Am I saying that all rich folk are scumbags? No, but most are. Anyone who puts profits over the future of this country is a traitor. No other way to say it.

SGG

Well, firstly, read Sigs' post. You may have been told that the long list of people who have been fired, resigned or jailed were all brought in by Trump, but that doesn't mean that it's true.

I do care. VERY MUCH.

As it turned out, the Democrat running against Trump is the very definition of a traitor you describe. I don't know when exactly the Democratic party became the cheerleader for big banks and multi-national corporations, but it happened right under everyone's noses.

There's a small group of Identitarian Socialists that got primaried in, in 2018, the face of which is AOC, but the solutions they're pedaling are even less popular and good for the country than the Establisment Democrats.

Your party is in chaos man, and it's liable to rip itself apart and splinter off into pieces. The Democratic party you once knew and loved is only an empty shell of what it was back in the 60's.

Quote:
There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .

And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or th

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SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:10 PM

Well Dear Sigs, name those terrible "swamp" people that your dear beloved president held over to serve the good people of this country. All those holdovers deserve to be severely admonished for their foul deeds.

Go ahead, list them.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"S""G""G" ... not true that all of the scumbags that quit, or were fired, or demoted, were brought in by Trump. Many of them were holdovers from previous administration.

You would help YOURSELF if you would be more factual in you thinking, instead of making (and thinking in) sweeping - but wrong- terms.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:18 PM

Do let me know what was in those million dollar speeches that Hillary gave to the likes of Goldman Sachs, will you?

How does the wife of an ex-president come upon 10 times the campaign funds for her election bid than a business tycoon?

I don't remember reading about her Billion Dollar grass-roots kickstarter campaign funded by small donors.

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Jack, they need you back on the planet De-lus-ional!
You have been thoroughly brainwashed my friend, you should really see someone
about that, otherwise it could actually mean the End of the World, total chaos!

Seriously...Democrats
Quote:
cheerleader(s) for big banks and multi-national corporations
. Someone make him stop, I'm dying here...lol.
The "law and order" party has slowly and steadily become the party of the lying sacks of shit. The purveyors of Narcissistic Mumbo Jumbo; "Get Out Your Handkerchiefs" everyone, this is a long sad tale.

Away with you, I have no use for such drivel.........

Terribly tragic indeed!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:
All I can say is that I'd bet you'd be very hard pressed to find another 2 year time frame in American history where more politicians and bureaucrats have either quit, resigned, got fired and/or arrested.

No I wouldn't be hard pressed to find a more despicable time in this country's history. Actually it would be a close second to now. The Watergate era once
held the "low" honor of being that "time" in American History. It has roundly been outdone by the Trump era; one of history's greatest infamies.

Quote:
Any time it happens, it brings a smile to my face. Doesn't matter what side they were on.

You care nothing for this country, which means you care nothing about yourself as a part of it. But I don't believe you.

Quote:
If Trump never delivers on a single other campaign promise, the swamp is being drained.

...and this is the reason why. You do care, for whatever reason...you do care.
Jack, stop and think a moment before you respond, will ya!? Those people that
have been arrested, convicted, quit, resigned, lied and generally fucked this country (and every living person within, including you) has been brought in,
and/or introduced by Trump and company. Go ahead, go down the list.

And if you say you don't care, well then, we are fucked. Pack your bags, because the USA as we know it is going Bye-Bye. But I don't believe you. You DO care, or else you wouldn't be here arguing the case of the rich scumbag.
Am I saying that all rich folk are scumbags? No, but most are. Anyone who puts profits over the future of this country is a traitor. No other way to say it.

SGG

Well, firstly, read Sigs' post. You may have been told that the long list of people who have been fired, resigned or jailed were all brought in by Trump, but that doesn't mean that it's true.

I do care. VERY MUCH.

As it turned out, the Democrat running against Trump is the very definition of a traitor you describe. I don't know when exactly the Democratic party became the cheerleader for big banks and multi-national corporations, but it happened right under everyone's noses.

There's a small group of Identitarian Socialists that got primaried in, in 2018, the face of which is AOC, but the solutions they're pedaling are even less popular and good for the country than the Establisment Democrats.

Your party is in chaos man, and it's liable to rip itself apart and splinter off into pieces. The Democratic party you once knew and loved is only an empty shell of what it was back in the 60's.

Quote:
There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Al

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SECOND

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 5:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do let me know what was in those million dollar speeches that Hillary gave to the likes of Goldman Sachs, will you?

How does the wife of an ex-president come upon 10 times the campaign funds for her election bid than a business tycoon?

I don't remember reading about her Billion Dollar grass-roots kickstarter campaign funded by small donors.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, nobody has to buy Congress or the White House. They already sold themselves BEFORE they got into politics. Actually, they were sold before they were born, back in the days of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, when the voters kept electing the wealthy slave-owners to Congress and the Presidency. Voters had a high tolerance for slave-owners (exception for the owners that habitually tortured their slaves -- that could disqualify a politician with the voters). These crappy voters got the crappy government they deserved. That never stopped, even until today, although we no longer have the easy tattletale of slave-owner/not-slave-owner to sort out who should not be elected. But we do have a newer selection criteria: pays-taxes/cheats-on-taxes as a substitute for sorting candidates.

The government never, never, never had the equivalent of football referees to call a foul or penalty on illegal moves by Congress or the White House, so there is rampant cheating going on all the time in the game, cheating that can be seen by the audience, who are people like you and me. But the fun part is that half of the audience declares there is no cheating when it is a player from their side who just cheating in front of everybody in the world. The audience is worse, a more dishonest bunch of cheaters, than the players.

What government really needs is either referees that can instantly penalize the players or it needs an audience that will rush onto the playing field and penalize a cheater.

$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented
www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-spee
ches/index.html

The former secretary of state testily responded to Sanders' charges.

"Time and time again, by innuendo, by insinuation, there is this attack that he is putting forth which really comes down to, you know, anybody who ever took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought. And I just absolutely reject that, senator, and I really don't think these kinds of attacks by insinuation are worthy of you. And enough is enough," Clinton said.

She then challenged him: "If you've got something to say, say it directly, but you will not find that I ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation I ever received."

Hillary did not change her views for $153 million because she and Trump were, when young, already very kind and considerate of the needs of the wealthy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do let me know what was in those million dollar speeches that Hillary gave to the likes of Goldman Sachs, will you?

How does the wife of an ex-president come upon 10 times the campaign funds for her election bid than a business tycoon?

I don't remember reading about her Billion Dollar grass-roots kickstarter campaign funded by small donors.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ix, nobody has to buy Congress or the White House. They already sold themselves BEFORE they got into politics. Actually, they were sold before they were born, back in the days of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, when the voters kept electing the wealthy slave-owners to Congress and the Presidency. Voters had a high tolerance for slave-owners (exception for the owners that habitually tortured their slaves -- that could disqualify a politician with the voters). These crappy voters got the crappy government they deserved. That never stopped, even until today, although we no longer have the easy tattletale of slave-owner/not-slave-owner to sort out who should not be elected. But we do have a newer selection criteria: pays-taxes/cheats-on-taxes as a substitute for sorting candidates.

The government never, never, never had the equivalent of football referees to call a foul or penalty on illegal moves by Congress or the White House, so there is rampant cheating going on all the time in the game, cheating that can be seen by the audience, who are people like you and me. But the fun part is that half of the audience declares there is no cheating when it is a player from their side who just cheating in front of everybody in the world. The audience is worse, a more dishonest bunch of cheaters, than the players.

What government really needs is either referees that can instantly penalize the players or it needs an audience that will rush onto the playing field and penalize a cheater.

$153 million in Bill and Hillary Clinton speaking fees, documented
www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-spee
ches/index.html

The former secretary of state testily responded to Sanders' charges.

"Time and time again, by innuendo, by insinuation, there is this attack that he is putting forth which really comes down to, you know, anybody who ever took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought. And I just absolutely reject that, senator, and I really don't think these kinds of attacks by insinuation are worthy of you. And enough is enough," Clinton said.

She then challenged him: "If you've got something to say, say it directly, but you will not find that I ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation I ever received."

Hillary did not change her views for $153 million because she and Trump were, when young, already very kind and considerate of the needs of the wealthy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Well... yeah.

So what's the answer?

Hillary wasn't it. Ousting Trump and seeing what Pence would do isn't it.

I never said that Trump didn't cheat his taxes, although I'm guessing that what he did with them is entirely legal according to the rule of law that has been written by crooked politicians over the years.

If broken down by the people under a microscope, seeing what the Rich are allowed to get away with by having Trumps mountains of paperwork available to pour through might enrage people... at least until another war is started to distract them.

I find it hilarious that when Obama's returns were released that they were a simple two sided form like the rest of us on a payroll have, as if that's the only money he made and the only taxes he paid. I'm assuming that if Hillary were voted in, we'd see something quite similar from her as well.

As good as your tax returns have gotten under the