Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:52 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
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The Special Counsel is then authorized to
Hmmm . what IS Mueller authorized to do?
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conduct the investigation authorized by the FBI-Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017*, including

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals assiciated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
that was a wash
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(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
all those unrelated fraud and 'process' charges
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(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 CFR §600.4(a)**

* https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/hpsci-hearing-titled-russian-active
-measures-investigation
* https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/20/full-t
ranscript-fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-on-russian-interference-in-2016-election/

** https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4
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§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.

(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

That's it. There is no 'there' there, in that vacuum you call your brain.

Are you able to find a way to convolute 28 CFR 600.4(a) to include discrepancies incurred before the onset, whether days or decades prior?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 28, 2019 10:06 AM

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And finally, the last and possibly most important result of the Russia gate hoax: Internet censorship.

Democrats, the compliant legacy media, and, most importantly, platform providers/internet publishers were quick to call for a culling of alternate viewpoints on the basis that it was "Russian propaganda". "Prop or not".

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Google were quick to deplatform, demonetize, or shadowban people who did not echo the RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!! hysteria. Of all of the effects of this hoax, this may be the most pernicious and difficult to reverse.

So, for two years we have been treated to a targeted investigation which

Was based on an unverified "dossier" and illegal FISA warrants and carried out by a politicized FBI and CIA and DOJ, leading to loss of confidence in the objectivity of these agencies.

Involved foreign governments (primarily British MI6 but also Malta and Ukraine) who meddled in a USA election

Stampeded a large part of the population into believing that RUSSIA!!! is a mortal enemy and that Trump is a Russian puppet

Ruined any chance of normalizing relations with Russia and withdrawing our troops at least from Syria and the Mideast

Affected the midterm elections

Exposed the legacy media as lying whores who peddle fake news

Enabled censorship of alternate media/ viewpoints and stifled freedom of speech because of paranoia over "Russian propaganda"

The "Mueller Investigation" may be over but - just like the WMD hoax - its effects will go on and on.

*****

It has taken some people YEARS to accept that they were fooled by the "WMD" hoax, and to finally get over its emotional tug. I hope that those people have learned that the media engages in bald-faced lying. I can only hope that others will eventually come to accept the lessons of this latest hoax, stop reverberating emotionally from this deliberate propaganda campaign, and view the M$M and social media with appropriate skepticism.
This might be post of the Week.
Specifying the internet endorsement and enforcement of their delusion.
Penultimate surrealism?
Kafka?
1984?
Brazil?

Has this made us attain a Dystopian Society in our own time?
Be sure to sign those privacy waivers, tho.

Now that MSM needs to pivot to another quasi-pseudo-scandal, it should just be referred to as the random Trumped up Fake News Du jour.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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As the MSM pretends we all have goldfish brains and can't remember that they spent the last two years convicting Donald Trump in the court of public opinion, the New York Post is out with "Mueller Madness" brackets to determine who in the media takes the cake for the peddling the most fiction.

The president’s haters no doubt wish to memory-hole collusion and move on to the next anti-Trump theory. But not so fast: We want to laurel the punditry “champion” — the one who peddled the most nonsensical nonsense, the wildest inanities, the weirdest theories and unsubstantiated stories.

That’s where your brackets come in.

Our contenders are divided into four groups (not unlike NCAA conferences): the print journalists, the cable TV talkers, the Twitterati and the network news reporters and “analysts.” And the brackets are seeded, with the most visible and influential figures contending against the lesser-known.

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Funny how many of those wacko losers in the brackets are the exacts sources of quotes by the Trolls here who do not accept real, reliable, accurate News sources.

I should admit, it is a little bewildering that there are higher Seeds than C@ckholsters Kimmel/Colbert.
Glad I managed to avoid all those Fake News outlets.

Also, is it discriminatory that only fat ugly women are allowed on that bracket? Are we to infer that all fat ugly women are stupid, ignorant, Evil?

And how is it that Brit Twit Corden doesn't even make the bracket?

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:20 PM

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Specifying the internet endorsement and enforcement of their delusion.
Penultimate surrealism?
Kafka?
1984?
Brazil?

You saw Brazil??? I think I saw it when it first came out - that must have been over 30 years ago, before dear daughter was born - and it's stuck with me ever since, One of thoe movies, once you've seen it you can never unsee it...

people driving along a road lined with forest scenery and behind the plywood walls ecological devastation ...

a television store's multiple TV screens with a newcaster repeating the government news that the guerillas/terrorists have all be brought uner control ... right before the store is blown up ...

His mother's "complications of her complications" as her plastic surgeries go further and further awry ...

the torturer as he straightens up, power drill in hand, saying "He's gone" (or someting like that) ...

A movie you can't forget.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:48 PM

There was late breaking news that the Grand Jury was still very much operational.

"continuing robustly"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/mueller-grand-jury-co
ntinuing-robustly-as-us-prosecutors-take-over-subpoena-fight-with-foreign-state-owned-company/2019/03/27/5dbaed3e-50b7-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4a9d32f061f2

Hmmmm, that was unexpected.

SGG

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This analysis concludes that Mueller knew there was no conspiracy before the midterms.

Https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-27/how-long-did-mueller-know-th
ere-was-no-trump-russia-collusion
Your article mentions conspiracy and collusion. Too bad for you, but neither of those words did Mueller give a damn about.

So where the heck did the term 'collusion' come from? From Manaford and Junior.

On July 22, 2016, the Washington Examiner reported that Paul Manafort and Donald Trump Jr “vigorously denied any kind of collusion between Trump Sr. and the Russian president.”

The word “collusion” came from Manafort and Trump Jr.
It’s probably here to stay, despite its being a legal non sequitur.
www.lawfareblog.com/where-heck-did-term-collusion-come

If Mueller wasn’t looking for “collusion”, what was he looking for?

“A full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election”
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-M
ueller-special.html

Did Mueller find any Russians, as he was requested to look into? Yes, he did:

Russian or related individuals and entities charged

In February 2018, the special counsel charged 13 Russians and three Russian entities with conspiring to defraud the United States and interfere with the 2016 presidential election. Mueller targeted the Internet Research Agency, a Kremlin-linked company that engages in influence operations and aimed to spread distrust toward candidates and the American political system. By mid 2016, the Internet Research Agency had established a strategy of supporting Trump’s candidacy and disparaging Clinton.

In July 2018, the special counsel indicted an additional 12 Russian intelligence officers for their role in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton campaign, and leaking of emails and documents.

The special counsel also charged Richard Pinedo, a California resident, with identity fraud. Pinedo sold bank account numbers over the internet to the Russians. His lawyer said he had no connection to Trump and was unaware that customers were involved in the Russia influence operation. Pinedo pleaded guilty and was sentenced to six months in prison in October 2018.

Maria Butina, a Russian living in the United States, pleaded guilty to conspiring to act as an illegal foreign agent in December 2018. Butina has been accused of trying to infiltrate Republican power circles by reaching out through conservative groups such as the National Rifle Association. The indictment doesn’t mention Trump, although the New York Times reported that she tried to help broker a secret meeting with Trump and Putin during the 2016 campaign. Butina was prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in D.C. and not Mueller; however, she is cooperating with the Mueller investigation and in February federal prosecutors sought to delay her sentencing.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/mar/25/who-has-already-b
een-indicted-russia-investigation/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:21 PM

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Jeeze, you RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! dupes sure have your panties in a twist. Post after post after page of howling and raving. Give it a rest, already.

No kidding!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:28 PM

I forgot one more ngative effect of this RUSSIA RUSSIA! hoax: It's sucked the oxygen out of the political-media sphere, and derailed the discussion of REAL problems. This isn't a problem for Trump's base but for liberal media and for the Democratic Party specifically. They wasted so much time and credibility on such a pointless topic that now that the rug has been pulled out from underneath them, it will take them some time to craft another winning message. Plus, the sudden change in topic risks making them look like liars and hypocrites to the approx one=third of Americans who see themselves as independant and not loyal to either party.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And finally, the last and possibly most important result of the Russia gate hoax: Internet censorship.

Democrats, the compliant legacy media, and, most importantly, platform providers/internet publishers were quick to call for a culling of alternate viewpoints on the basis that it was "Russian propaganda". "Prop or not".

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Google were quick to deplatform, demonetize, or shadowban people who did not echo the RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!! hysteria. Of all of the effects of this hoax, this may be the most pernicious and difficult to reverse.

So, for two years we have been treated to a targeted investigation which

Was based on an unverified "dossier" and illegal FISA warrants and carried out by a politicized FBI and CIA and DOJ, leading to loss of confidence in the objectivity of these agencies.

Involved foreign governments (primarily British MI6 but also Malta and Ukraine) who meddled in a USA election

Stampeded a large part of the population into believing that RUSSIA!!! is a mortal enemy and that Trump is a Russian puppet

Ruined any chance of normalizing relations with Russia and withdrawing our troops at least from Syria and the Mideast

Affected the midterm elections

Exposed the legacy media as lying whores who peddle fake news

Enabled censorship of alternate media/ viewpoints and stifled freedom of speech because of paranoia over "Russian propaganda"

The "Mueller Investigation" may be over but - just like the WMD hoax - its effects will go on and on.

*****

It has taken some people YEARS to accept that they were fooled by the "WMD" hoax, and to finally get over its emotional tug. I hope that those people have learned that the media engages in bald-faced lying. I can only hope that others will eventually come to accept the lessons of this latest hoax, stop reverberating emotionally from this deliberate propaganda campaign, and view the M$M and social media with appropriate skepticism.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:28 PM

I forgot one more ngative effect of this RUSSIA RUSSIA! hoax: It's sucked the oxygen out of the political-media sphere, and derailed the discussion of REAL problems. This isn't a problem for Trump's base but for liberal media and for the Democratic Party specifically. They wasted so much time and credibility on such a pointless topic that now that the rug has been pulled out from underneath them, it will take them some time to craft another winning message. Plus, the sudden change in topic risks making them look like liars and hypocrites to the approx one=third of Americans who see themselves as independant and not loyal to either party.

For the life of me, I can't imagine what the hell they were thinking. Political self-preservation didn't seem to prevent this debacle. They must have really believed that they could sell this to the American people en masse, just like they sell bad lons and crappy healthcare and pontless wars.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And finally, the last and possibly most important result of the Russia gate hoax: Internet censorship.

Democrats, the compliant legacy media, and, most importantly, platform providers/internet publishers were quick to call for a culling of alternate viewpoints on the basis that it was "Russian propaganda". "Prop or not".

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Google were quick to deplatform, demonetize, or shadowban people who did not echo the RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!! hysteria. Of all of the effects of this hoax, this may be the most pernicious and difficult to reverse.

So, for two years we have been treated to a targeted investigation which

Was based on an unverified "dossier" and illegal FISA warrants and carried out by a politicized FBI and CIA and DOJ, leading to loss of confidence in the objectivity of these agencies.

Involved foreign governments (primarily British MI6 but also Malta and Ukraine) who meddled in a USA election

Stampeded a large part of the population into believing that RUSSIA!!! is a mortal enemy and that Trump is a Russian puppet

Ruined any chance of normalizing relations with Russia and withdrawing our troops at least from Syria and the Mideast

Affected the midterm elections

Exposed the legacy media as lying whores who peddle fake news

Enabled censorship of alternate media/ viewpoints and stifled freedom of speech because of paranoia over "Russian propaganda"

The "Mueller Investigation" may be over but - just like the WMD hoax - its effects will go on and on.

*****

It has taken some people YEARS to accept that they were fooled by the "WMD" hoax, and to finally get over its emotional tug. I hope that those people have learned that the media engages in bald-faced lying. I can only hope that others will eventually come to accept the lessons of this latest hoax, stop reverberating emotionally from this deliberate propaganda campaign, and view the M$M and social media with appropriate skepticism.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

it will take them some time to craft another winning message.

Pete Buttigieg is on a roll of late. And that extends to his spot-on analysis of why Democrats -- and Hillary Clinton in particular -- lost the 2016 election to President Donald Trump.

"We spent, I think, way too much time on our side talking about him," Buttigieg said in an interview with "The Breakfast Club," a New York City-based radio show, which ran Tuesday morning. "Our whole message was don't vote for him because he is terrible. And even because he is, that is not a message."

The rightness of Buttigieg's analysis speaks to his understanding of how voters think and the significant challenge that Trump still poses.

"I hate to say it, but Trump could absolutely win again," Buttigieg said. He's absolutely right.

www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/pete-buttigieg-donald-trump-hillary-cl
inton/index.html

“The rightness of Buttigieg’s analysis speaks to his understanding of how voters think . . .” Some examples of voter thinking:

1) Trump owes hundreds of millions in back taxes. Democrat and Republican voters shrug it off as nothing.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html

2) What is Trump doing now? He continues to cheat on his taxes. That is shrugged off as nothing, too.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1421/rel
ease-his-tax-returns-after-audit-completed/
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-taxes/cohen-trump-feared-a
udit-if-he-released-tax-returns-idUSKCN1QG2X7

3) Who will make Trump pay? Not the Supreme Court. Those people are slow. This week the Supreme Court required 5 months to decide in an 8 to 1 vote that hinged on the wrong address written on an envelope mailed with the USPS. The case has been running for 9 years and the Supreme Court has thrown it back to the very beginning. The Supreme Court justices are innumerate lawyers who won't comprehend the numbers of a fast-talking, tax-cheating President.
www.cnn.com/2019/03/26/politics/supreme-court-sudan-uss-cole/index.htm
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4) The Senate won’t look at Trump’s taxes.

5) Will the voters punish a tax cheater? Who among voters even comprehend what Trump did? Only the 1 Percenters and their accountants. They want to learn how Trump cheated. They want to copy his technique.

"I hate to say it, but Trump could absolutely win again," Buttigieg said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:50 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
They must have really believed that they could sell this to the American people en masse, just like they sell bad loans and crappy healthcare and pointless wars.

Well, they had to put their insurance policy into effect post-haste.

I think 3-letter agencies went into it the same way the neocons went into Iraq - confident that once there, they'd find SOME evidence to back them up.

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