Voter Fraud Proven
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, January 18, 2024 23:54
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Quote:Here are some linkies about Ballot Harvesting in CA, or did you need the CA Statutes of the Law?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Thank you for your clarification. I did not know if you were disputing Truth and Fact (which you often do), and which one, or just ignoring the Facts I posted, or something else. I did not know you were unaware of CA Law regarding Ballot Harvesting. It has been discussed at length here in RWED, like when discussing the many cases and examples, practices, policies of Voter Fraud. I believe SIGs and/or kiki have been quite steamed about the topic.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:Plain English: You make claims without verifiable proof. You say that California has a law that allows for a private citizen to collect and gather
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Translation to American English, please? Are you disputing some of the facts?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:Deluded much?
Is it curious that SGG lauds the advice from AUSA John Harris, that Ballot Harvesting is not legal in NC, but has no problem with it being the Law in CA?
Yes, the Democraps of CA have made Voting Fraud the Law in CA. Shockers.
sgg
absentee ballots. Is this your claim? Then prove it.
You know, it's unbelievable that you don't understand my comment/response is to your claim/accusation regarding California's voter laws. My response, in plain English, was directed at your claim. Pretty simple really! If such a law exists.
In other words: Is this a fact or your opinion?
P.S. Was anyone that ran for office in California ever suspected of hiring
ex-cons to "collect" absentee ballots for the poor unfortunate souls voting
in that state? Was there an investigation? Pray tell! Post it here!
SGG
One of the links I followed brought further mention of the CA Law, the link which detailed who John Harris was, what he specifically said, and which States his Opinion was true in.
A search for Ballot Harvesting California gave me many results.
In case you find algore's interwebs invention too befuddling, I will try to provide a linky when I get a chance. Unless somebody else beats me to it.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/ballot-harvesting-midter
m-elections/
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-what-
is-ballot-harvesting-in-california-election-code-20181204-htmlstory.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ballot-harvesting-bounty-how-dems-use
d-election-law-change-to-rout-california-republicans
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-ballot-harvesting-201
81207-story.html
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/01/ballot-harvesting-california-dems-g
op/
https://countedascast.org/ballot-harvesting/
https://www.abqjournal.com/1262622/stealing-an-election-legally-via-ba
llot-harvesting-ex-republicans-in-california-claim-that-dems-used-a-2016-law-to-gain-votes.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_harvesting
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-late-votes-b
roke-big-for-13432727.php
https://www.voanews.com/a/both-political-parties-use-ballot-harvesting
-but-what-is-it/4690606.html
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Here, I picked one at random from the cites you posted. I believe it's an opinion piece, but here's what this article posted:
Quote:
Current California elections code states that a vote by mail voter who is “unable” to return their ballot may have a family or household member return it to the elections office [section 3017(a)(3)]. The ballot may not be returned by workers of a political committee or other organizations [section 3017(e)].
The above is what took place in North Carolina. The campaign hired a fucking criminal to "collect" ballots that were unsigned and unmarked.
I read most of the CA statute that covered all aspects of legal absentee voting. There you can vote and give it to someone to bring to the precinct for processing. Of course, I'm paraphrasing, but the general gist is that the
ballot is properly administered and surrendered to the local precinct for processing. A part of that process is verifying it's proper submission.
What happened in North Carolina, which has laws against that very thing, it was found that people were illegally collecting unmarked and unsealed ballots.
They knowingly were doing something illegal within their state.
No one is above the law. No one!
SGG
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I really enjoyed kicking your troll asses on this thread.
Thanks for being so incredibly stupid.
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You've never kicked anybody's ass in your entire life, you skinny little piece of shit coward.
My five year old niece is twice the man you'll ever be.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I know that it's been a while, but I do wish to respond to your post here because it's an all-important topic. But right now I'm in the middle of something...I will respond shortly. Check back in a day or two.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:A notarized copy of your birth certificate, or your naturalization papers. Or your passport, which requires one of the two.
What documents are needed for Proof of Citizenship?
Now that visiting Canada requires a passport, I went to get passports for all of us including hubby, who is a naturalized citizen. I was born out of state, but all I had to do was request a notarized copy of my birth certificate from my home county, and pay a fee. It took a while, but it eventually came through the mail. Because I married, by birth certificate and my Social Security card don't match, but Social Security has a record of me requesting a name-change, so no problem there.
With hubby, it was a little different because the name on his Social Security card and naturalization papers weren't an exact match; I forget which way we resolved that ... I think we requested a name change on his Social Security card. With dear daughter, since she was born in CA it was faster getting a notarized copy of her birth certificate.
But we weren't in a hurry, and if the requirements are implemented far in advance of any election the only problem (for poor people) might be paying the fee for the birth certificate, which is where the political parties would come in: Since THEY have an interest in registering voters, let them use their war chests to help indigents pay for the necessary papers and straighten out any conflicts between their birth certificate names, their adult names (may be married), and their Social Security cards.
It seems that there should be a national database to weed out duplicate registrations. (Yanno, like Venezuela has.) A lot of illegals get fake IDs on the basis of stolen Social Security numbers; those Social Security cards are nothing but cheap cardboard and easy to fake. Social Security should go thru its own database looking for duplicate numbers with different names and different concurrent addresses which include dead people and people who have moved. or people using stolen SSNs.
Now, voter registrations also need to know what state, county, and city you live in for state, county, and city elections, and your status with regards to whether or not you're a felon (different states have different thresholds). THAT can be done with a utility bill, rental agreement etc. but is a real problem for people with no fixed address. I find that a much knottier problem to solve.
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Okay, here it goes, my reply:
You had stated in another post that there's no PROOF of citizenship...by any state....
Quote:
No, what I'm saying is that no state requires PROOF of citizenship for voter registration. I think you even posted examples from the state of PA and NJ: All you need to do to register is attest and sign that you're eligible. It's on the honor system: No birth certificate or passport or naturalization papers are required in any state.
But I found this:
Quote:- from NY State
It is a crime to procure a false registration or to furnish false information to the Board of Elections
In this state, at least, it IS a REQUIREMENT. I am attaching a copy of the form below:
http://www.pdffiller.com/jsfiller-desk10/?projectId=277603363&expI
d=4676&expBranch=1#57c3bfa06afb483c8b3844c4bbeb4313
At the bottom of the form there is an Affidavit, with a statement that the
signer attests that they meet all the requirements stated on the form. So
your claim has been disproven.
SGG
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Quote:I don't understand. Do you take Stupid Pills before you post your nonsense? What is wrong with you?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay, here it goes, my reply:
You had stated in another post that there's no PROOF of citizenship...by any state....Quote:
No, what I'm saying is that no state requires PROOF of citizenship for voter registration. I think you even posted examples from the state of PA and NJ: All you need to do to register is attest and sign that you're eligible. It's on the honor system: No birth certificate or passport or naturalization papers are required in any state.
But I found this:Quote:- from NY State
It is a crime to procure a false registration or to furnish false information to the Board of Elections
In this state, at least, it IS a REQUIREMENT. I am attaching a copy of the form below:
http://www.pdffiller.com/jsfiller-desk10/?projectId=277603363&expI
d=4676&expBranch=1#57c3bfa06afb483c8b3844c4bbeb4313
At the bottom of the form there is an Affidavit, with a statement that the
signer attests that they meet all the requirements stated on the form. So
your claim has been disproven.
SGG
Nobody knows what you think you have proven, you are not coherent.
You have, however, proven her points and assertions.
She stated there is no Requirement of Proof. Not that it was not Illegal, against the law, a violation of the Law, or a crime (God Forbid that an established Criminal Illegal Alien would venture to commit further Crime). You agreed that there is a NY Law making it a Crime to submit Fraudulent Registration, and you make no suggestion that any Proof is Required for Registration. They WILL Register you despite your lack of Proof. Maybe they won't even allow you to show Proof if you have it.
She also stated that one merely is to attest, instead of providing Proof. This is what you also specify - the same exact thing she already stated, while you imply that it is somehow different.
Do you even read the nonsense you post?
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I still enjoy the schadenfreude I feel when I see the utter devastation I unleashed on JSF's mindless tinfoil silliness.
Still reaching, still getting destroyed. Ah, victory! 
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I stand corrected.
I looked further into the topic. You are right, there is NO Requirement to show Proof of Citizenship to register to vote. All that is needed is the aforementioned Affidavit attesting that one is a citizen.
I'm attaching an article regarding three states that have been blocked to require Proof of Citizenship for voters.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/10/493405211/court-bloc
ks-proof-of-citizenship-requirement-for-voters-in-3-states
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay, here it goes, my reply:
You had stated in another post that there's no PROOF of citizenship...by any state....Quote:
No, what I'm saying is that no state requires PROOF of citizenship for voter registration. I think you even posted examples from the state of PA and NJ: All you need to do to register is attest and sign that you're eligible. It's on the honor system: No birth certificate or passport or naturalization papers are required in any state.
But I found this:Quote:- from NY State
It is a crime to procure a false registration or to furnish false information to the Board of Elections
In this state, at least, it IS a REQUIREMENT. I am attaching a copy of the form below:
http://www.pdffiller.com/jsfiller-desk10/?projectId=277603363&expI
d=4676&expBranch=1#57c3bfa06afb483c8b3844c4bbeb4313
At the bottom of the form there is an Affidavit, with a statement that the
signer attests that they meet all the requirements stated on the form. So
your claim has been disproven.
SGG
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