Voter Fraud Proven
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, January 18, 2024 23:54
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Ok, now you're just being plain silly!
You're rolling out that old nugget - uh, but Hillary! Why not throw in Obama
for good measure.
Come on!!!! You've got to be shitting me!
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm starting to think that Hillary Clinton is just extremely bored these days and that Marcos is actually her.
Hey Hillary! I know you don't get all those top secret e-mails anymore, but I hope you're using Nord VPN.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Dude, you're chewing on raw red meat and you haven't got a clue. You're being led by the nose. The state essentially investigated itself (they registered the legal voters and issued the driver's licenses) and found that
everything is good.
Oops!
As far as the law suit: it's like being falsely arrested and you sue for damages. It's to put a stop to the bullshit move. You call them out and put them on blast, make a public spectacle and embarrass them.
Besides, the AG and SoS are wasting taxpayer money for an idiot move.
These were legal naturalized residents. Case closed.
SGG
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Texas Republicans Are Lying About Voter Fraud to Justify a Massive, Racist Voter Purge
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/texas-republicans-racist-i
llegal-voters-purge.html
Because that's what Republicans do.
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Since you mentioned the Pennsylvania voter fraud fraud, I thought I would look up THAT little gem.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/42889/pennsylvania-finds-thousands-non-c
itizens-voter-ashe-schow
Now, as I read the article, I kept asking myself how is it that two completely different states have the same exact problem? Non-citizens registered to vote?
What was the final outcome of the investigation? The "newspaper" fails to mention if the State arrested anyone or brought anyone to justice.
What gives them the right? Oh yeah, the State. Apparently, as I read further, the DMV (a branch of state government) has a section on their paperwork for voter registration. But so far, not a word as too criminal charges being brought by the state AGs from either state. I wonder why that is.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said of the results of the 11-month investigation:
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Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice. Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas.
I read an article online where a woman was arrested and is now serving time for illegally voting. Crystal Mason:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/31/598458914/texas-woma
n-sentenced-to-5-years-for-illegal-voting
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Mason grabbed her keys and set out for her local precinct. When she got there, she found out that her name was not on the voter roll so she was given a provisional ballot. An election worker stuck around to walk her through the form. She used her current license and her current address
It was that easy...the state provided a provisional ballot.
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"She didn't understand!" St. John said. "She was never told she couldn't vote. Not by a district judge. Not by anyone at the half-way house where she lived after she got out. Not by the probation officer."
Although, she did sign an affidavit (as I had suggested in another post, but signed as well by her probation officer)
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According to a CNN report, "She signed and affirmed a document which clearly stated that (1) she was prohibited from voting due to her status as a convicted felon still serving her term of supervision, and (2) she would be committing a second degree felony if she lied about her status," Wilson said. "The judge found her guilty of illegal voting beyond a reasonable doubt."
I went online to see what exactly the PA-DMV had on their website, here's what I found:
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Deadline Alert: 04/22/2019 is the last day to register before the 05/21/2019 election.
If you are not a U.S. citizen and a resident of Pennsylvania at least 30 days before the next election, you CANNOT register to vote.
If you have any questions, please call 1.877.VOTESPA (1.877.868.3772).
Your registration is not complete until processed and accepted by your county voter registration office.
To vote in the next election, you must complete your application by 04/22/2019. You can submit your application:
On this web site
Delivered to your county voter registration office.
By mail to your county voter registration office, postmarked by 04/22/2019.
Click here to download a blank voter registration form
If you are on active duty in the military, or you are a hospitalized or bedridden veteran, you can register at any time. See www.fvap.gov for more information.
The Texas voter registration has you answer a series of questions that determines your eligibility. You fill in name and address, then mail it in.
So, there is a process managed by the state. Somewhere along the line somebody
royally fucked up. I'm going to dig a little more to see how many states have run into this little problem.
I will post my results in a few days.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Voter problems
http://www.demos.org/publication/accelerating-vote-how-states-are-impr
oving-motor-voter-registration-under-national-voter
save a place...
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Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Voter problems
http://www.demos.org/publication/accelerating-vote-how-states-are-impr
oving-motor-voter-registration-under-national-voter
save a place...
I don't think that's necessarily showing "problems" other than a great deal of people don't care to vote. Even California is on that list with only 4% of people registering to vote when they get their license.
Their claim that "many people left the DMV unaware they could register" is given without any proof. They're probably right that people turned it down because filling out an entire form for it is "too cumbersome", but I really don't think people should be voting that don't have time to fill out a piece of paper to get registered.
I've lived in 3 states since I've been old enough to vote and every time I've gone to the DMV they've asked me. One was solid D, one was solid R, and one is a flippyflop state.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:No links = no evidence.
Same shit, different state. - REAVERBOT
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Now, as I read the article, I kept asking myself how is it that two completely different states have the same exact problem? Non-citizens registered to vote?
Maybe because none of the states currently require proof of citizenship?
You say you're a citizen?
GREAT!
Step right up and and vote here!
The article that you linked from Demos was remarkably non-specific about the "problems" that it found, and also careless about the conclusions that it drew from their statistics. For example
Quote:Maybe these people were registered to vote already by another means? Hey, in 11 CA counties about 110% of eligible voters are registered! I'd consider that a great success in voter registration, wouldn't you???
As of 2014, publicly available data indicated that only about 4 percent of individuals engaging in driver’s license or identification card transactions with the California DMV indicated a desire to register to vote as part of the transaction placing the California DMV among the lowest-performing motor vehicle agencies covered by the NVRA.
There may be perfectly valid reasons why motor-voter registration may get poor participation, even in states with robust registration rates. One of them may be that many youngsters register through school programs, for example.
Because of the crappy record-keeping it's impossible to say exactly what percent of eligible voters are registered in California, but even if you say that 20% of registrations are duplicates (which reflects very badly on the CA system) that still leaves 90% valid registrations for 11 of the most populous counties in CA.
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Siggy,
I found this online, the California application for voter registration:
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Classification
I am one of the following *
A U.S. citizen and resident of California.
OR
A U.S. citizen and a member of the Uniformed Services or Merchant Marine on active duty outside my county.
A U.S. citizen and an eligible spouse or dependent of a member of the Uniformed Services or Merchant Marine on active duty outside my county.
A U.S. citizen and an activated National Guard member on State orders outside my county.
A U.S. citizen residing outside the U.S. temporarily.
A U.S. citizen residing outside the U.S. indefinitely.
A U.S. citizen and have never resided in the U.S.
Maybe because none of the states currently require proof of citizenship?
So, how do you solve a problem like proof of citizenship?
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New voters may have to show a form of identification or proof of residency the first time they vote, if a driver license or SSN was not provided when registering.
And then there's this:
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About half of the states with voter ID laws accept only photo IDs. These include driver’s licenses, state-issued ID cards, military ID cards, and passports. Many of these states now offer a free voter photo ID card if you don’t have another form of valid photo ID.
Other states accept some types of non-photo ID. These may include birth certificates, Social Security cards, bank statements, and utility bills. Each state is specific about the documents it will accept as proof of identification. Be sure you know your state’s voter ID requirements before Election Day.
Perhaps the country should adapt a citizenship ID card to differentiate non-citizens from citizens.
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Naturalization is the process by which U.S. citizenship is granted to a foreign citizen or national after he or she fulfills the requirements established by Congress in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
Your U.S. passport is your best proof of U.S. citizenship.
Now, to obtain a passport you need a birth certificate, which I'm sure you know, and proof of address (a utility bill, etc.).
What documents are needed for Proof of Citizenship?
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What documents are usually accepted as proof of U.S.
citizenship?
The most common documents that establish U.S. citizenship are:
• Birth Certificate, issued by a U.S. State (if the person was
born in the United States), or by the U.S. Department of State
(if the person was born abroad to U.S. citizen parents who
registered the child’s birth and U.S. citizenship with the U.S.
Embassy or consulate);
• U.S. Passport, issued by the U.S. Department of State;
• Certificate of Citizenship, issued to a person born outside the
United States who derived or acquired U.S. citizenship through a
U.S. citizen parent; or
• Naturalization Certificate, issued to a person who became
a U.S. citizen after 18 years of age through the naturalization
process.
These are documents that you typically present for just about any official
capacity - job, voting, etc. So if someone is on the voter rolls, they generally have already met the requirements and have submitted the documentation as proof of citizenship. I've found that there's no mention,
on any of the applications, of the eligibility of convicted felons. You and I know, but not many people do; it wasn't until I registered to vote that I found this out.
But what I'm talking about is the politicization of the vote. What was once
described as your civic duty is now part of the civil war between Dems and Republicans for the country's soul. It has been reduced to civil warfare.
What I'm talking about is the unrelenting propaganda and ideological scrum
taking place across the country to further the political cause for a party
who sold their soul to the devil, all to gain seats in the house and senate, by hook or by crook (mainly by crook), to have control over money, power and
influence in this country. Most of the time it has nothing to do
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I see that about 700,000 Immigrants become new Citizens each year. With Texas having less than 10% of the US Population, we might assume 70,000 per year are there. In the past 6 years that would be 420,000.
So the assumption is that almost 100,000 of these new Citizens of the past 6 years are the only ones found in the Texas study.
Meaning the study found about 23% of these. How believable is that?
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Quote:That's Racist.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Siggy,
I found this online, the California application for voter registration:Quote:
Classification
I am one of the following *
A U.S. citizen and resident of California.
OR
A U.S. citizen and a member of the Uniformed Services or Merchant Marine on active duty outside my county.
A U.S. citizen and an eligible spouse or dependent of a member of the Uniformed Services or Merchant Marine on active duty outside my county.
A U.S. citizen and an activated National Guard member on State orders outside my county.
A U.S. citizen residing outside the U.S. temporarily.
A U.S. citizen residing outside the U.S. indefinitely.
A U.S. citizen and have never resided in the U.S.
Maybe because none of the states currently require proof of citizenship?
So, how do you solve a problem like proof of citizenship?Quote:
New voters may have to show a form of identification or proof of residency the first time they vote, if a driver license or SSN was not provided when registering.
And then there's this:Quote:
About half of the states with voter ID laws accept only photo IDs. These include driver’s licenses, state-issued ID cards, military ID cards, and passports. Many of these states now offer a free voter photo ID card if you don’t have another form of valid photo ID.
Other states accept some types of non-photo ID. These may include birth certificates, Social Security cards, bank statements, and utility bills. Each state is specific about the documents it will accept as proof of identification. Be sure you know your state’s voter ID requirements before Election Day.
Perhaps the country should adapt a citizenship ID card to differentiate non-citizens from citizens.
Did you get infected by reason, sense?
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