Who Is Running In 2020?

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, January 13, 2019 12:22 AM

I heard some candidates are already announcing they are running for President.

Tom Delaney?
Tulsi Gabbard from HI
Julio Castro, Obamabot.

Who else?

Joe BiteMe
Hilliary
Ojeda

9. Cory Booker. 4 February
Pocahontas Warren. 10 February

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:33 AM

I've heard Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Have you not heard that too?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've heard Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Have you not heard that too?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I've only heard Hilliary as a joke.

But I'll take your word.

What will be Hilliary's slogan? Impeach Trump!
What will be Trump's slogan? Impeach Hilliary!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:56 AM

Hillary obviously wouldn't have a chance of winning, but I don't think it's a joke. So much fake news on both sides today though. It's hard to sift through all the bullshit.

I sure hope she doesn't though. 2020 is already going to be worse than 2016 was.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:52 AM

Tulsi Gabbard has already been mentioned. As a Hindu, a woman, part-Samoan AND an Iraq veteran you'd think she would be high up in the DNC identity-politics race, but her "fatal flaw" is that she wants to end our endless wars. THAT, of course, is poison for the Democratic establishment, which wants all war all the time. So of course she's getting a ration of shit, being called Assad's favorite democrat and other crap like that.

Fucking Democratic sellouts. May they burn in hell.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

WISHIMAY

Sunday, January 13, 2019 12:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Fucking Democratic sellouts. May they burn in hell.

No one really wants war, you are the only

that obsesses about it at an Olympic level. I just imagine every time you type the word you feel a little tingle.

How about Fuck Rethuglicans for...everything?
OK, I'll start with the anti-science thing they do. I'd wish they burn in hell, but since it doesn't exist... "may they drown in the toxic wastes they refuse to regulate"...

WISHIMAY

Sunday, January 13, 2019 12:08 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/military-vet-ojeda-announces-2020-president
ial-campaign-141318772--election.html

Anyone heard of this guy??

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:03 PM

Quote:
Fucking Democratic sellouts. May they burn in hell.- SIGNY

No one really wants war, you are the only that obsesses about it at an Olympic level. I just imagine every time you type the word you feel a little tingle. - WISHY

My god you're such a fucking moron you're an embarrassment to morons everywhere.

FROM THE LEFTWING PALMER REPORT

Quote:
Tulsi Gabbard is where I draw the line. She’s a right wing lunatic, she supports Assad, she’s a Trump pal, she tried to sabotage the DNC from within in 2016, and Russia Today loves her. She’s the one Democrat I will oppose in 2020. She’s not a real Democrat, she’s Steve Bannon.
5:46 PM - 11 Jan 2019

My support for every other Democratic 2020 candidate still stands. But Tulsi Gabbard? Hell no. She should have been banned from the party a long time ago. Fucking monster. She’ll use her campaign to try to destroy the Democratic Party during the primary. I won’t allow it.

The funny part is, looking through all the tweets mentioning “Tulsi Gabbard” right now, the only ones saying positive things about her are Trump supporters and alt-right. Their deranged fantasy is that she turns the Democratic Party into a right wing puppet of the Kremlin.

HOWARD DEAN

Quote:
‘No different than Trump with Putin’: Howard Dean says Tulsi Gabbard should resign for defending Assad

A furious Howard Dean blasted Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) on MSNBC Sunday morning for her defense of Syrian President Assad, with Dean saying the Hawaiian lawmaker should resign from Congress.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141749438

DAILY BEASTS'S EDITOR-IN-CHIEF

Quote:
Noah Shachtman
?Verified account @NoahShachtman
Tired of Putin? Vote Assad 2020!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status

DAILY KOS FOUNDER

Quote:
Markos Moulitsas
These are the Tulsi Gabbard fans—Russian propaganda outlet and a KKK grand puppy dragon or whatever pretentious-ass title they give themselves.

Sheesh.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Fucking Democratic sellouts. May they burn in hell.- SIGNY

No one really wants war, you are the only that obsesses about it at an Olympic level. I just imagine every time you type the word you feel a little tingle. - WISHY

My god you're such a fucking moron you're an embarrassment to morons everywhere.

FROM THE LEFTWING PALMER REPORT

Quote:
Tulsi Gabbard is where I draw the line. She’s a right wing lunatic, she supports Assad, she’s a Trump pal, she tried to sabotage the DNC from within in 2016, and Russia Today loves her. She’s the one Democrat I will oppose in 2020. She’s not a real Democrat, she’s Steve Bannon.
5:46 PM - 11 Jan 2019

My support for every other Democratic 2020 candidate still stands. But Tulsi Gabbard? Hell no. She should have been banned from the party a long time ago. Fucking monster. She’ll use her campaign to try to destroy the Democratic Party during the primary. I won’t allow it.

The funny part is, looking through all the tweets mentioning “Tulsi Gabbard” right now, the only ones saying positive things about her are Trump supporters and alt-right. Their deranged fantasy is that she turns the Democratic Party into a right wing puppet of the Kremlin.

HOWARD DEAN
Quote:
‘No different than Trump with Putin’: Howard Dean says Tulsi Gabbard should resign for defending Assad

A furious Howard Dean blasted Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) on MSNBC Sunday morning for her defense of Syrian President Assad, with Dean saying the Hawaiian lawmaker should resign from Congress.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141749438

DAILY BEASTS'S EDITOR-IN-CHIEF
Quote:
Noah Shachtman
?Verified account @NoahShachtman
Tired of Putin? Vote Assad 2020!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status

DAILY KOS FOUNDER
Quote:
Markos Moulitsas
These are the Tulsi Gabbard fans—Russian propaganda outlet and a KKK grand puppy dragon or whatever pretentious-ass title they give themselves.

Sheesh.

The Party of Tolerance. And lockstep mindthink.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

No one really wants war, you are the only that obsesses about it at an Olympic level. I just imagine every time you type the word you feel a little tingle.

Her and Kiki - "war war war!!!"

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
How about Fuck Rethuglicans for...everything?

Totally down with that.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/424730-mcconnell-blocks-house-bill
s-to-reopen-government

McConnell blocks House bills to reopen government

Seriously, I wonder if he was paid a visit by some thugs that speak Russian. Maybe every Rep was. That's all I have - I can't think of a sane reason to behave the way they do. It's 2019 and someone like Steve King is in Congress. WTF?

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
OK, I'll start with the anti-science thing they do. I'd wish they burn in hell, but since it doesn't exist... "may they drown in the toxic wastes they refuse to regulate"...

Word. Getting my pitchfork and torch ready.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:02 PM

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
My god you're such a fucking moron you're an embarrassment to morons everywhere.

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Address the issues instead of name-calling like a 4-year-old.

No one makes a bigger fool of themselves than SIGGY.

And no one obsesses over nothing like SIGGY - who cares about Tulsi Gabbard NOW? Isn't it just bit early to go bonkers and try and smear the entire Democratic party because you found 4 "people" who don't like her? Of course not! And "she's Russian" is such a tell.

The time you must spend on this stuff...

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 13, 2019 7:52 PM

I don't think she spends any time on it. This shit writes itself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, January 13, 2019 8:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think she spends any time on it. This shit writes itself.

It's shit alright!

SIGNYM's "valued" sources:

- FROM THE LEFTWING PALMER REPORT - huh?

- HOWARD DEAN - still around?

- DAILY BEASTS'S EDITOR-IN-CHIEF
Tired of Putin? Vote Assad 2020!!!!!!! - another joke missed by SIGNYM

- DAILY KOS FOUNDER - who?

========================

I guess those are good enough for Pizzagate believers.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think she spends any time on it. This shit writes itself.

It's shit alright!

SIGNYM's "valued" sources:

- FROM THE LEFTWING PALMER REPORT - huh?

- HOWARD DEAN - still around?

- DAILY BEASTS'S EDITOR-IN-CHIEF
Tired of Putin? Vote Assad 2020!!!!!!! - another joke missed by SIGNYM

- DAILY KOS FOUNDER - who?

========================

I guess those are good enough for Pizzagate believers.

No different than any of your asinine posts.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 13, 2019 10:28 PM

Quote:
My god you're such a fucking moron you're an embarrassment to morons everywhere.

Address the issues instead of name-calling like a 4-year-old.- SIGNY

Hey GSTRING ... look at WISHY's post immediately before mine for context, OK?

Not that you'd EVER criticize WISHY for being a jackass, huh?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 13, 2019 10:45 PM

Quote:
Hypocrisy Without Bounds: The Tragedy of ‘Liberal’ Foreign Policy

The president says he will bring the troops home from Syria and Afghanistan. Now, because of their pathological hatred of Trump, mainstream Democrats are hysterical in their opposition.

by Maj. Danny Sjursen Posted on January 08, 2019

If anyone else were president, the "liberals" would be celebrating. After all, pulling American soldiers out of a couple of failing, endless wars seems like a "win" for progressives. Heck, if Obama did it there might be a ticker-tape parade down Broadway. And there should be. The intervention in Syria is increasingly aimless, dangerous and lacks an end state. Afghanistan is an unwinnable war – America’s longest – and about to end in outright military defeat. Getting out now and salvaging so much national blood and treasure ought to be a progressive dream. There’s only one problem: Donald Trump. Specifically, that it was Trump who gave the order to begin the troop withdrawals.

Lost in the haze of their pathological hatred of President Trump

or Trump-voters, Republicans in general, or Americans ...

Quote:
the majority of mainstream liberal pundits and politicians can’t, for the life of them, see the good sense in extracting the troops from a couple Mideast quagmires. That or they can see the positives, but, in their obsessive compulsion to smear the president, choose politics over country. It’s probably a bit of both. That’s how tribally partisan American political discourse has become. And, how reflexively hawkish and interventionist today’s mainstream Democrats now are.

Whither the left-wing antiwar movement? Well, except for a few diehards out there, the movement seems to have been buried long ago with George McGovern.

Make no mistake, the Democrats have been tacking to the right on foreign policy and burgeoning their tough-guy-interventionist credentials for decades now. Terrified of being painted as soft or dovish on martial matters, just about all the "serious" baby-boomer Dems proudly co-opted the militarist line and gladly accepted campaign cash from the corporate arms dealers. Think about it, any Democrat with serious future presidential aspirations back in 2002 voted for the Iraq War – Hillary, Joe Biden, even former peace activist John Kerry! And, in spite of the party base now moving to the left, all these big name hawks – along with current Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer – are still Democratic stalwarts. Heck, some polls list Biden as the party’s 2020 presidential frontrunner.

More disturbing than the inconsistency of these political hacks is the vacuousness of the supposedly liberal media. After Trump’s announcement of troop withdrawals, just about every MSNBC host slammed the president and suddenly sounded more hawkish than the clowns over at Fox News. Take Rachel Maddow. Whatever you think of her politics, she is – undoubtedly – a brilliant woman. Furthermore, unlike most pundits, she knows a little something about foreign policy. Her 2012 book, Drift: The Unmooring of American Military Power was a serious and well-researched critique of executive power and the ongoing failure of the wars on terror. Drift was well reviewed by regular readers and scholars alike.

Enter Donald Trump. Ever since the man won the 2016 election, Maddow’s nightly show has been dominated the hopeless dream of Russia-collusion and a desire for Trump’s subsequent impeachment. Admittedly, Maddow’s anti-Trump rhetoric isn’t completely unfounded – this author, after all, has spent the better part of two years criticizing most of his policies – but her zealousness has clouded her judgment, or worse. Indeed, that Maddow, and her fellow "liberals" at MSNBC have now criticized the troop withdrawals and even paraded a slew of disgraced neoconservatives – like Bill Kristol – on their shows seems final proof of their descent into opportunistic hawkishness.

One of the most disturbing aspects of this new "liberal&qu

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SIGNYM

Sunday, January 13, 2019 10:49 PM

GSTRING ... you can't claim to not know these people ...

CHUCK SCHUMER complains about troop withdrawal

NANCY PELOSI call troop withdrawal "premature", "cavalier", and a "Christmas present to Vladimir Putin"

Claire McCaskill: Trump 'Wildly Irresponsible, Very Dangerous' On Syria (1:20)

RACHEL MADDOW does her usual hit piece, full of spin and innuendo

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, January 14, 2019 12:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think she spends any time on it. This shit writes itself.

It's shit alright!

SIGNYM's "valued" sources:

- FROM THE LEFTWING PALMER REPORT - huh?

- HOWARD DEAN - still around?

- DAILY BEASTS'S EDITOR-IN-CHIEF
Tired of Putin? Vote Assad 2020!!!!!!! - another joke missed by SIGNYM

- DAILY KOS FOUNDER - who?

========================

I guess those are good enough for Pizzagate believers.

So, Umm, the Ultra Left Wing Trolls have turned on their most celebrated Fake "News Sources" and admitted that they really are Fake News when they report facts?
Is this Oz?

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:23 AM

Well, if nothing else, Trump has inspired a ton of political activism.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6615029/More-470-people-filed
-run-President-2020.html

470 frickin' people.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:25 AM

Is Paris Hilton running again?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, January 25, 2019 5:51 AM

Saw MSM report that Milwaukee, Houston, Miami Beach are competing to host the DNC next year.
Milwaukee would host it at the new Bucks arena.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:56 AM

One of the Jimmys said that crook Cory Booker is the 9th candidate to announce.

Obviously, the crook is running as Democrat.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, February 10, 2019 11:57 PM

MSM reports that Pocahontas Libtard announced today.

REAVERFAN

Monday, February 11, 2019 1:11 AM

Warren: Trump 'may not even be a free person' by 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/10/politics/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump/
index.html

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 11, 2019 3:18 AM

lol

I see her platform is going to be "I'm not Trump".

*yawn*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Monday, February 11, 2019 8:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I see her platform is going to be "I'm not Trump".

*yawn*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That should do it.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 11, 2019 8:45 AM

Quote:
Today Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to by me as Pocahontas, joined the race for President. Will she run as our first Native American presidential candidate, or has she decided that after 32 years, this is not playing so well anymore? See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!

Oh, Elizabeth...

I'm afraid you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Monday, February 11, 2019 10:11 AM

It seems like every time I listen to the news, someone else is announcing their Presidential campaign. Warren (what a school-marm!), Booker (crook), Kamala Harris (She lost my vote when she rolled on the people of CA and accepted Obama's toothless agreement with the too-big-to-fail banks of 2008. She's a spineless party toady.)

Anyone else?

The only person who interests me is Tulsi Gabbard, who not only is anti-war(despite having served in the military) but who also quit DNC campaign committee (under the infamous Debbie Wasserman Schultz) because of the way they were treating Bernie Sanders.

My idea ticket would be Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard running on an independent ticket, because most of the Dem candidates so far are crooks or spineless or both.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Monday, February 11, 2019 11:27 PM

Oh, I forgot ... Amy Klobuchar

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:16 AM

Amy Klobuchar is 15th today.
And Beto is threatening to announce.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:44 AM

Beto "Poster Boy for Cultural Appropriation" O'Rourke?

Dude is even whiter than Warren, but he's rocking that Mexican nickname he gave himself. Who knows? Maybe he's 1/1024 Mexican. That's all it takes these days, right?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

lol...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:06 PM

Robert Francis O'Rourke.

Maybe Liberals figure Hispanics are too stupid to see past the façade.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 19, 2019 12:24 AM

Sounds like Libertarian William Weld has announced a run against Trump.

Last seen as VP on the 2016 Libertarian Party ticket, pulling the rug out from under Johnson.

Currently GOP has lifelong Democrat Trump leading, and now Fickle Libertarians are running. Does the GOP no longer support Republicans?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Saw MSM report that Milwaukee, Houston, Miami Beach are competing to host the DNC next year.
Milwaukee would host it at the new Bucks arena.

The Democrat National Convention will be in Milwaukee for 2020.

RUE

Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:08 AM

I wonder who they'll pick ... shoehorn in ... anoint ...

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:51 PM

They've got nobody so far that could win against Trump.

They ought to get to work on a message that resounds with people instead of trying to rely on "we're not Trump".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:57 PM

Apparently "Creepy" Joe Biden is thinking of announcing. But he seems to lack the energy to rally an audience, so he may suffer one of the same problems as Hillary.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:04 PM

Democrat Bernie Sanders (Declared)
U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont has a strong following, particularly among younger, more liberal members of the Democratic Party. He gave Hillary Clinton a run for her money during the intraparty battle for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination by drawing large crowds with his passionate speeches about income inequality in the corrupting influence of money in the American political system.

Democrat Elizabeth Warren (Declared)
Elizabeth Warren is a U.S. senator from Massachusetts who was rumored to have been on Hillary Clinton's short list of potential running mates in the 2016 election. She has earned a reputation as a consumer advocate and advocate for the middle class because of her expertise in bankruptcy and the economic pressures facing many Americans. She, like Sanders, has taken a tough stance against Wall Street. Sen. Warren officially announced her candidacy on February 9, 2019, after a contentious week of dodging flack over her disputed claim of Native American ancestry.

Democrat Joe Biden
Joe Biden, a former U.S. senator who served two terms as vice president under Barack Obama, removed himself from speculation in the 2016 campaign following the death of his son Beau. But he re-emerged during Trump's first term in office after launching a political action committee, American Possibilities, “dedicated to electing people who believe that this country is about dreaming big, and supporting groups and causes that embody that spirit." Will one of those people be himself?
Said Biden: "I haven't decided to run, but I've decided I'm not going to decide not run. We'll see what happens."

Democrat Cory Booker (Declared)
Cory Booker, a U.S. senator from New Jersey, is a former mayor of Newark, New Jersey, who many believe began laying the groundwork for a 2020 candidacy when he testidied against a colleague in the U.S. Senate, Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, who was nominated for attorney general by Trump in 2017. Booker's speech in opposition to his colleague was likened to former President Barack Obama's soaring rhetoric.
Said Booker: “If confirmed, Senator Sessions will be required to pursue justice for women, but his record indicates that he won’t. He will be expected to defend the equal rights of gay and lesbian and transgender Americans, but his record indicates that he won’t. He will be expected to defend voting rights, but his record indicates that he won’t. He will be expected to defend the rights of immigrants and affirm their human dignity, but the record indicates that he won’t.”

Democrat Julian Castro (Declared)
Julián Castro is a Hispanic politician and rising star in the Democratic Party. He served as the mayor of San Antonio, Texas, and later earned a position in President Barack Obama's cabinet. Castro has been described as the "Latino Obama" and is often described as having the potential to become the first Latino president. Castro has launched a political action committee, “Opportunity First,” fueling speculation that he is weighing a run in 2020.

Democrat Kamala Harris (Declared)
U.S. Senator Kamala Harris, former Attorney General of California, would be the first African-American woman and the first Asian-American woman to win a major party presidential nomination. She joins Shirley Chisholm and Carol Moseley Braun as two African-American women who previously sought to run on the Democratic ticket. In announcing her candidacy, Harris noted her close relationship with party luminaries Sen. Dianne Feinstein and former Vice President Joe Biden. “I have the unique experience of having been a leader in local government, state government, and federal government,” she said regarding her credentials. “The American public wants a fighter ... and I’m prepared to do that.”

Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand (Declared)
Widely known for her #MeToo social media advocacy for survivors of sexual violence, U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand has announced an exploratory committee for a run for t

THG

Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They've got nobody so far that could win against Trump.

They ought to get to work on a message that resounds with people instead of trying to rely on "we're not Trump".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Monday, February 18, 2019 8:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Good luck!

Do what you want to do, but I'm not letting the media drive me crazy a whole year and a half before the election.

Filing this under don't give a shit until at least summer of 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You can imagine my surprise to see you posting here on the 2020 elections after posting this in a thread I started on, wait for it, the 2020 elections.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They've got nobody so far that could win against Trump.

They ought to get to work on a message that resounds with people instead of trying to rely on "we're not Trump".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Monday, February 18, 2019 8:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Good luck!

Do what you want to do, but I'm not letting the media drive me crazy a whole year and a half before the election.

Filing this under don't give a shit until at least summer of 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You can imagine my surprise to see you posting here on the 2020 elections after posting this in a thread I started on, wait for it, the 2020 elections.

T

What's your point?

I'm just stating facts. Your post here doesn't dismiss them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:02 AM

For me, this topic has 3 points of interest
1) who do I like (who I can guarantee will never in a million years be anointed by the DNC)
2) how do I think the machinations will roll and who will be anointed
3) what is the DNC going to do, and how can it fail (In the last presidential election, though I wrongly assumed Hillary would win, I was correct in pointing out that Hillary was an abysmal candidate, and the DNC had a losing platform and incoherent message.)

BTW, my 2016 'never-Hillary' vote was based on only 1 thing - who is least likely to get us blown up in a radioactive firestorm. My next vote will be based on that as well, along with paying attention to who will do more than phony lip-service to combat global warming. The last presidential election I was a single issue voter. The next round I'll be a 2-issue voter.

RUE

Friday, March 15, 2019 10:14 AM

Media Hit-Job Continues As Colbert Ambushes Tulsi Gabbard

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-14/media-hit-job-continues-colb
ert-ambushes-tulsi-gabbard

The reason I call Colbert a propagandist and not simply a liberal empire loyalist who happens to have been elevated by billionaire media is because these are carefully constructed narratives that he is reciting, and they weren’t constructed by him.

Yep. We get to see how free our political opinions can really be. Also, the fact that neoliberals are aligning against her is a big plus for her in my book.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, March 15, 2019 12:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Robert Francis O'Rourke.

Maybe Liberals figure Hispanics are too stupid to see past the façade.

I have really not been able to keep up with all this news, all of this parade of candidates, so I thank all valid contributors for their input.

I heard MSM say that he announced today.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:44 AM

Joe BiteMe was on the list I found before the 9th, but now I've heard that some claim he is running but hasn't announced.

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, March 29, 2019 10:33 PM

maybe not running but interesting news

Ralph Nader seeks "big" passenger rights group after Boeing crashes
https://www.france24.com/en/20190322-ralph-nader-seeks-big-passenger-r
ights-group-after-boeing-crashes

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/03/22/ralph-naders-niece-died-in-one-o
f-the-boeing-crashes-now-hes-calling-for-the-737-max-8-to-be-grounded.html
Consumer advocate Ralph Nader has been a long time critic of the F.A.A. but, unfortunately, now it's personal. Nader's great niece was killed along with over 300 others in one of the two Boeing 737 Max 8 crashes in the past year.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, March 29, 2019 11:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
maybe not running but interesting news

Ralph Nader seeks "big" passenger rights group after Boeing crashes
https://www.france24.com/en/20190322-ralph-nader-seeks-big-passenger-r
ights-group-after-boeing-crashes

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/03/22/ralph-naders-niece-died-in-one-o
f-the-boeing-crashes-now-hes-calling-for-the-737-max-8-to-be-grounded.html
Consumer advocate Ralph Nader has been a long time critic of the F.A.A. but, unfortunately, now it's personal. Nader's great niece was killed along with over 300 others in one of the two Boeing 737 Max 8 crashes in the past year.

I wonder how many Americans were killed in each of the crashes.
One was Ethiopian, right?

RUE

Sunday, March 31, 2019 1:41 AM

JSF -

I would like to post on a somewhat related topic in this thread, so let me intro my idea here. During the last presidential election cycle I posted quite often what a toxic candidate Hillary was, what a mockery of democracy the DNC made of its primaries, and how abysmally lame the platform was. And I posted somewhat often how the democrats failed to stand up to multinationals while hiding behind the faux-populism of victim-hood.

I'd like to reprise that somewhat with a more general analysis of democratic candidates and the party in general.

This is my opening, copied from a different thread:

Quote:
But I do think Pelosi is Schiff's beard in this. All of her calling on democrats to do the people's business and stop focusing on Trump has fallen, and is falling on deaf ears. Democrats but especially Schiff remain hyper-fixated on Trump. Now either everyone is treating Pelosi like a mousy substitute teacher and running amok while she meekly calls for attention over and over - which I doubt - or this is a plan to HIDE THAT THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY FAILING THE PEOPLE WHILE THEY PLAY POLITICAL GAMES. And this is all the more likely as Pelosi is defending Schiff.

If you're OK with me planting it here, I'll continue. Otherwise, I'll create another thread.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
JSF -

I would like to post on a somewhat related topic in this thread, so let me intro my idea here. During the last presidential election cycle I posted quite often what a toxic candidate Hillary was, what a mockery of democracy the DNC made of its primaries, and how abysmally lame the platform was. And I posted somewhat often how the democrats failed to stand up to multinationals while hiding behind the faux-populism of victim-hood.

I'd like to reprise that somewhat with a more general analysis of democratic candidates and the party in general.

This is my opening, copied from a different thread:
Quote:
But I do think Pelosi is Schiff's beard in this. All of her calling on democrats to do the people's business and stop focusing on Trump has fallen, and is falling on deaf ears. Democrats but especially Schiff remain hyper-fixated on Trump. Now either everyone is treating Pelosi like a mousy substitute teacher and running amok while she meekly calls for attention over and over - which I doubt - or this is a plan to HIDE THAT THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY FAILING THE PEOPLE WHILE THEY PLAY POLITICAL GAMES. And this is all the more likely as Pelosi is defending Schiff.
If you're OK with me planting it here, I'll continue. Otherwise, I'll create another thread.

I don't see a problem with posting it here.

Are you saying the Dems will repeat their failed tactics and strategy from 2016?

Maybe I didn't make it clear, but I was thinking this thread was about Presidential candidates, of both parties. I had planned on another thread for Congressional Elections, but now was too far out to discuss that reasonably. Or I could join if a rational poster started one on topic.
If you are talking about Congressional races, you could start a new thread about that. Otherwise, all President candidates, tactics, strategies for 2020 would be welcome here, and I assume would fit within the topic envelope.

RUE

Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:16 AM

Cool. I'll keep that caveat in mind.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:57 AM

Joe Biden just got #MeToo'd.

That's probably the end of the Democrat's only somewhat serious candidate in the race right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Cool. I'll keep that caveat in mind.

I wasn't sure exactly what you had in mind. Sounded like some of Presidential races/Primaries. Didn't know if you had Congressional in mind, or if you wanted to comingle or keep separate.

I don't mind, you are much more on topic than the Trolls.

RUE

Sunday, March 31, 2019 9:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Cool. I'll keep that caveat in mind.

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I wasn't sure exactly what you had in mind. Sounded like some of Presidential races/Primaries. Didn't know if you had Congressional in mind, or if you wanted to comingle or keep separate.

I don't mind, you are much more on topic than the Trolls.

The caveat about having a separate thread for congressional races - though if I'm discussing overall democratic party failings I may wander between presidential and congressional races.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 31, 2019 11:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Cool. I'll keep that caveat in mind.
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I wasn't sure exactly what you had in mind. Sounded like some of Presidential races/Primaries. Didn't know if you had Congressional in mind, or if you wanted to comingle or keep separate.

I don't mind, you are much more on topic than the Trolls.
The caveat about having a separate thread for congressional races - though if I'm discussing overall democratic party failings I may wander between presidential and congressional races.

If you have information about Congressional races in 2020, let's hear it.

RUE

Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:58 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/politics/elites-trump-buttigieg-ocasio-
cortez/index.html
The 2020 campaign is already turning into a war on 'elites'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/beto-orourke-campaign-launch-r
allies-saturday-texas/index.html
Beto O'Rourke says nation's political hierarchy must be 'broken apart' at first rally in El Paso
Speaking Spanish, he said he would fight for a country in which gender, ethnicity and a family's time in the United States are not barriers to voting and economic participation.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/hillary-clinton-spokesman-pete
-buttigieg/index.html
Hillary Clinton spokesman slams Pete Buttigieg for criticism of 2016 campaign

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/house-moderate-democrats/index
.html
Post-Mueller, Democratic moderates seize the momentum from progressives
... as much as the young progressives have defined the early stage of the current House majority, it's clear the momentum has shifted as party leaders try to steer Democrats back toward the center.
Sherrill is one of the 43 Democrats who flipped a Republican-held seat in 2018. She's also a part of the moderate New Democrat Coalition, which with 101 members (including 39 freshmen) is the largest ideological caucus in Congress.
But just behind the NDC in size is the Progressive Caucus, at 97 members.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/29/opinions/kamala-harris-teacher-plan-goo
d-politics-love/index.html
Kamala Harris' plan for teachers is good policy and great politics

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-all
egation-reaction/index.html
Elizabeth Warren says Joe Biden needs to give an answer for allegation of inappropriate touching

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/after-three-months-surprises-m
ark-the-democratic-presidential-campaign/2019/03/30/d73d525a-5193-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html
After three months, surprises mark the Democratic presidential campaign

SIGNYM

Monday, April 1, 2019 11:30 PM

Seen many videos of creepy Joe Biden touching women and girls inappropriately, onstage no less. But for those of you who are unaware ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-01/irrefutable-evidence-10-vide
os-show-creepy-joe-biden-touching-women-inappropriately

I imagine this would reduce his chances of being nominated considerably

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seen many videos of creepy Joe Biden touching women and girls inappropriately, onstage no less. But for those of you who are unaware ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-01/irrefutable-evidence-10-vide
os-show-creepy-joe-biden-touching-women-inappropriately

I imagine this would reduce his chances of being nominated considerably

As long as he is running as Democrat, he should fit right in with LBJ, JFK, BJ Clinton, and Bobo. Feminists will love him. Does he touch ugly women equally?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seen many videos of creepy Joe Biden touching women and girls inappropriately, onstage no less. But for those of you who are unaware ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-01/irrefutable-evidence-10-vide
os-show-creepy-joe-biden-touching-women-inappropriately

I imagine this would reduce his chances of being nominated considerably
As long as he is running as Democrat, he should fit right in with LBJ, JFK, BJ Clinton, and Bobo. Feminists will love him. Does he touch ugly women equally?

If I were his campaign manager, that's the first question I'd have asked, then I'd have a team of people going through old footage to dig up any instance where he was just as touchy feely with ugly women, men and boys.

I've only seen the video of him being kind of weird with a bunch of girls in a photo op and then getting his hand swatted away when he tried to touch Sessions' granddaughter on the shoulders. But maybe he actually does just do that to everyone. If I saw evidence of that, I'd be willing to let it go.

But it would have to be pretty striking evidence. Because this really looks bad.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seen many videos of creepy Joe Biden touching women and girls inappropriately, onstage no less. But for those of you who are unaware ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-01/irrefutable-evidence-10-vide
os-show-creepy-joe-biden-touching-women-inappropriately

I imagine this would reduce his chances of being nominated considerably
As long as he is running as Democrat, he should fit right in with LBJ, JFK, BJ Clinton, and Bobo. Feminists will love him. Does he touch ugly women equally?

If I were his campaign manager, that's the first question I'd have asked, then I'd have a team of people going through old footage to dig up any instance where he was just as touchy feely with ugly women, men and boys.

I've only seen the video of him being kind of weird with a bunch of girls in a photo op and then getting his hand swatted away when he tried to touch Sessions' granddaughter on the shoulders. But maybe he actually does just do that to everyone. If I saw evidence of that, I'd be willing to let it go.

But it would have to be pretty striking evidence. Because this really looks bad.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Why do Democrats continue to try to deny their nature?

Where is Secretary Swiftboat Ketchup to save the day, when you need him?

RUE

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:42 AM

Creepy Uncle Joe. The guy who kisses the girl children on the lips and hugs them a little too close a little too long at family parties. A lot of the children instinctively recoiled or turned away or squirmed away. Good for them! Where were their parents?

I found that excruciatingly long hug he gave to Hillary hilarious! She was extremely uncomfortable but he didn't let that stop him! I interpret that hug as - you may be Sec State but I'm VEEP and don't you forget it.

Also, he looked pretty young in some of those compilations, so this is a long-standing thing. He didn't turn into a dirty old man, he always was one.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:04 AM

I've never done it before, and I'm not about to just jump on the #MeToo movement right now because it's convenient.

Uncle Joe might genuinely not have a creepy thought running through his head when he behaves this way. He might have grown up in a very touchy feely environment (completely innocent and non-sexual) and not even be aware how creepy he does look when put under the microscope of the internet.

Personally, I hate most physical contact. But I'm a loner. It would be sad if this whole new #MeToo movement turns everyone into loners because they're afraid of what others might think, or even worse, afraid of what might happen to their jobs, their family life and their reputation once they've been blasted on YouTube for the mob to judge.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:18 AM

I have known some families which were extremely physical. Everybody hugged everybody, closely. Guys kissing guys on the cheek, not really much on the mouths. Handshakes were double-headed. They thought nothing of invasion of personal space.
I've always felt sorry for whatever they have gone through during the decades decline in touchy feely animosity.
Seems like Italian families were often this way, they said so themselves.
I've been in a group which has badges stating whether the wearer is a hugger or not, so no excuses for violators.

RUE

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've never done it before, and I'm not about to just jump on the #MeToo movement right now because it's convenient.

Uncle Joe might genuinely not have a creepy thought running through his head when he behaves this way. He might have grown up in a very touchy feely environment (completely innocent and non-sexual) and not even be aware how creepy he does look when put under the microscope of the internet.

Personally, I hate most physical contact. But I'm a loner. It would be sad if this whole new #MeToo movement turns everyone into loners because they're afraid of what others might think, or even worse, afraid of what might happen to their jobs, their family life and their reputation once they've been blasted on YouTube for the mob to judge.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Well, Creepy Uncle Joe isn't about to rape someone in the glare of the floodlights. It's going to be subtle. I kiss the young'uns on the top of the head. But if it were to be a soft nibble-kiss as my hand caressed their shoulder, well, that would be creepy. If I put my arm around a budding adolescent it could be affectionate. But if my thumb 'accidentally' rested on a breast and stayed there, that would be creepy.

I think you can tell a lot by the reactions of the recipients. They're extremely uncomfortable.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 2:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've never done it before, and I'm not about to just jump on the #MeToo movement right now because it's convenient.

Uncle Joe might genuinely not have a creepy thought running through his head when he behaves this way. He might have grown up in a very touchy feely environment (completely innocent and non-sexual) and not even be aware how creepy he does look when put under the microscope of the internet.

Personally, I hate most physical contact. But I'm a loner. It would be sad if this whole new #MeToo movement turns everyone into loners because they're afraid of what others might think, or even worse, afraid of what might happen to their jobs, their family life and their reputation once they've been blasted on YouTube for the mob to judge.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Well, Creepy Uncle Joe isn't about to rape someone in the glare of the floodlights. It's going to be subtle. I kiss the young'uns on the top of the head. But if it were to be a soft nibble-kiss as my hand caressed their shoulder, well, that would be creepy. If I put my arm around a budding adolescent it could be affectionate. But if my thumb 'accidentally' rested on a breast and stayed there, that would be creepy.

I think you can tell a lot by the reactions of the recipients. They're extremely uncomfortable.

It is kind of good for them to learn what it is like to hang with Democrats - you're going to get assaulted. Prep for College Rape.

RUE

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It would be sad if this whole new #MeToo movement turns everyone into loners because they're afraid of what others might think, or even worse, afraid of what might happen to their jobs, their family life and their reputation once they've been blasted on YouTube for the mob to judge.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I just wanted to address this. Where I used to work was EXTREMELY PC. And I've seen a guy railroaded b/c he was sarcastic and kind of obnoxious, and some women got together and decided to claim he was inappropriate. (And it was a mockery of an investigation on top of everything.) That said, I've hugged a guy at work more than once after his mother passed away. He'd moved out of his place and into his parents' house to take care of them and had seen them through many medical crises including diabetes in both of them. But his mom's pancreatic cancer diagnosis came out of the blue and she passed away shortly after. I think he was closer to his mom, and he felt bereft, and like he'd failed her. Anyway, we shared a lot of difficult emotions about the death of a parent. Still, he was struggling. And I wanted him to have some kind of comfort and support. It was OK.

And then there were three guys who were unfazed by crude language, cruder jokes, and gross events. So we had our private hilarity times. It was OK.

In a situation where you could be severely judged, even fired, for very minor things, you have to already have established some mutual trust.

I don't think affection between strangers, especially between adults and children, who meet for the first time on a stage, is something the adult should just assume they can impose on a child. Even affectionate families generally don't treat strangers who are momentarily passing through their lives that way.

If ALL Biden was doing was being affectionate, it was inappropriate. But the difference between affectionate and perverted can happen in less than an inch, a psi, or a second. I still think the best way to judge is by the recipients' reactions. And nearly all look really uncomfortable.

But you HAVE to watch the extended crotch to crotch hug Biden gave Hillary. It was *HI*larious! She leaned WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY back with the grimace-smile on her face, and did everything but give him a two-handed shove. While Biden continued to hold her close and smile. There's no way Biden was being accidental with that.

RUE

Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:46 PM

Anyway - back to the topic! A few of these to me are hunh ??

https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2020

Cory Booker (D)
Pete Buttigieg (D)
Julian Castro (D)
John Delaney (D)
Tulsi Gabbard (D)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D)
Kamala Harris (D)
John Hickenlooper (D)
Jay Inslee (D)
Amy Klobuchar (D)
Wayne Messam (D)
Beto O'Rourke (D)
Elizabeth Warren (D)
Marianne Williamson (D)
Andrew Yang (D)

Bernie Sanders (I)

Donald Trump (R)
Bill Weld (R)

RUE

Wednesday, April 3, 2019 2:27 AM

Given the US's provocations of both Russia and China around the globe, and the deep state/ msm push toward yet another proxy war in Venezuela, http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63022&mid=1
073200#1073200, I'm curious to see how the candidates line up.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, April 3, 2019 10:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Anyway - back to the topic! A few of these to me are hunh ??

https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2020

Cory Booker (D)
Pete Buttigieg (D)
Julian Castro (D)
John Delaney (D)
Tulsi Gabbard (D)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D)
Kamala Harris (D)
John Hickenlooper (D)
Jay Inslee (D)
Amy Klobuchar (D)
Wayne Messam (D)
Beto O'Rourke (D)
Elizabeth Warren (D)
Marianne Williamson (D)
Andrew Yang (D)

Bernie Sanders (I)

Donald Trump (R)
Bill Weld (R)

Thank you very much. I was under the impression there were more than 17.

For challengers, I haven't checked lately on Rose McGowan.

RUE

Thursday, April 4, 2019 3:00 AM

Beto O'Rourke Reverses Position On Reparations, Pledges To Sign Bill To Study It

That's a 180-degree-turn from last month, when O'Rourke said he wasn't in favor of reparations, but that he believed it was important for Americans to confront the reality of systemic racism.

Reparations. What an idiot. OK, I see the politics of victimhood in play here. I wonder if that'll be the position adopted by the DNC. (BTW, what's wrong with running on a "Fair Deal" platform?)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 4, 2019 8:51 AM

lol... let's pin all of our hopes on the guy who couldn't even beat Ted Cruz.

Good luck with that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, April 4, 2019 11:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... let's pin all of our hopes on the guy who couldn't even beat Ted Cruz.

Good luck with that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This made me think Pocahontas is so much better.

Then I realized we should take that list and tag each name with our favorite derogatory.

RUE

Friday, April 5, 2019 2:29 AM

According to LATimes: "For Democrats, all paths to the White House run through the House of Sharpton" ... and not the DNC?

RUE

Friday, April 5, 2019 2:34 AM

Part of a Kamala Harris stump speech:

“When we have leaders who bully and attack a free press and undermine our democratic institutions, that’s not our America,” said Harris, stabbing a finger in the air for emphasis. “When white supremacists march and murder in Charlottesville, or murder innocent worshipers in a Pittsburgh synagogue, that’s not our America.”

In one of her harshest attacks, she pointed to Russian interference in the 2016 campaign and an ongoing probe into possible Russian collusion with the Trump campaign and its leaders. “We have foreign powers infecting the White House like malware,” she said to a roar from the partisan crowd.

It was just one in a litany of accusations delivered over 35 minutes, like a lawyer laying out her prosecutorial brief.

Harris condemned an economy that, she asserted, was stacked against working people. She assailed a criminal justice system that, she suggested, locks away too many poor, black and brown people. She promised to expand access to healthcare — “a fundamental right” — and make college more affordable.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-kamala-harris-campaign-spee
ch-20190127-story.html

RUE

Friday, April 5, 2019 3:48 AM

https://www.salon.com/2019/04/04/two-more-centrists-democrats-enter-pr
esidential-race-michael-bennet-and-tim-ryan-are-running/

Two more centrist Democrats enter presidential race: Michael Bennet and Tim Ryan are running

RUE

Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:50 AM

Pelosi outlines a path to victory for House Democrats in 2020 — and guarantees it (WaPo)

After three months in a majority marked by divisions, the House speaker boldly insisted the party can win again if lawmakers raise millions of dollars and stick to a moderate message.

By Paul Kane

Barely three months into her second turn in charge, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has already mapped out a plan to overwhelm Republicans in the 2020 elections.

“I’m going to have our races won by this November,” the California Democrat said.

Yes, the House speaker predicted that she will have locked down the majority a full year ahead of schedule, leaving the political battlefield to what she considers an intense presidential race all the way up to November 2020.

It’s a remarkably bold guarantee for Pelosi, who will celebrate this new majority’s 100-day mark at a Democratic retreat next week outside Leesburg. Her caucus has had its share of growing pains in the first quarter of the year, with younger, more-liberal Democrats trying to push Pelosi’s leadership team as far to the left as possible.

A small but vocal faction of newcomers sparked a bitter debate over the party’s long-standing support of Israel. And a growing Democratic presidential primary field is advancing policies that are out of step with a couple dozen freshman Democrats who won swing seats in districts that favored President Trump in the 2016 election.

At the center of this storm sits Pelosi, 79, back where she ruled the House for four years last decade. Her office is assembled almost exactly the way she left it in 2010, a set of four chairs in a circle by the fireplace serving as the central nervous system for House Democrats. Through the window is a view of the Mall.

In a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post, Pelosi acknowledged that the job now is different from her first go-round, most notably because President Trump is such a different personality than Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. But, she also notes, the rise of social media has transformed politics since her last tenure, allowing newcomers to become instant stars in a way that she could not imagine when she arrived in the Capitol 32 years ago.

[Pelosi tamps down talk of Trump impeachment — welcome words for centrist Democrats]

She considers her biggest mistake during her first stint as speaker was allowing Republicans to relentlessly attack her and her policy achievements such as the Affordable Care Act without any coordinated pushback. Democrats lost a staggering 63 seats and the majority in the 2010 midterms, leaving Pelosi’s public image battered for years to come.

“I was in this office, but I didn’t — I didn’t — relish being speaker. I relished the power of legislative accomplishments,” she said. “I didn’t see a public role.”

In 2018, she became her own biggest advocate, touting her insider expertise in a campaign to reclaim her old job as Republicans ran what her office estimates were 137,000 ads warning voters about the danger of “Speaker Nancy Pelosi.” Democratic candidates were given free rein to criticize her, inoculating themselves from the GOP campaign and leading to a net gain of 40 seats.

She reclaimed the speaker’s gavel midway through a 35-day partial government shutdown and won a clear victory over Trump in his demand for border-wall funding. Her mocking clap toward Trump during the State of the Union address became a viral moment that completed her return to being liberal heroine, a status that had begun to fade over eight previous years of defeat for House Democrats.

But her posture in the first 100 days has been anything but wild-eyed liberal. Fifteen Democrats did not vote for her in the Jan. 3 roll call for speaker, but several now praise her for taming the more liberal indulgences of the caucus.

“Don’t mistake not voting for her and not having a great, deep respect and admiration for her skills and talents and her pragmatism,” said Rep. Ron Kind (D-Wis.), one of her sharp

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 8, 2019 8:11 PM

Did Joe really pull a bunch of kids on a stage, put his hands on the shoulders of a boy and joke that he had the kid's consent?

I can't make up my mind of that's the cringiest, creepiest gaffe of all time or if it was genius. That might just be the funniest thing that came out of a Liberal's mouth in the last decade.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 8, 2019 8:21 PM

Yup. He did...

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1114255061553696768

And hoooo boy... The comment section on that. Look at all the rabid Republicans and rabid "Progressive" Lefties tear him apart for it.

Have we finally found something they can both agree on?

If nothing else, this is certainly an interesting social experiment.

It will also be interesting to see if the far-left successfully torpedoes the only chance the Democrats have to win against Trump in 2020 before he even officially announces he is running.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:13 AM

Has Joe NEVER heard of age of consent? That puts it in the 'creepy' category to me.

Poor kid. It may be a thing that haunts him through his life - because of the taunting of his peers. Definitely not a label you want to be wearing at school.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Has Joe NEVER heard of age of consent? That puts it in the 'creepy' category to me.

Poor kid. It may be a thing that haunts him through his life - because of the taunting of his peers. Definitely not a label you want to be wearing at school.

To be fair, he didn't say "age of consent". He said, as he put his arm on the kid's shoulder harmlessly, "by the way, he gave me permission to touch him".

Not sure if that makes it better or not.

I don't think it's a big deal. I don't really think he did anything wrong at all, now or in the past. I just question his new tactic to poke fun at himself about it. People are way to fucking sensitive about everything these days. No offense intended, but apparently, it seems that you are one of them.

If the Democratic party wasn't really two parties in one these days, you wouldn't ever have heard about any of this.

But the establishment neo-Liberal Corporatists are tearing down the AOC's of the world, and the wacko far left, SJW weirdos are tearing down the Joe Biden's of the world.

Meanwhile, most of the mindless Republicans will be happy to jump on either one of those hate trains, when they're served up on a silver platter like this.

The Democrats are in deep trouble.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:24 AM

"he gave me permission to touch him" - kid's still too young to give permission for anything, I used the wrong and highly-loaded phrase

You know, having worked for decades in an EXTREMELY PC place I understand the whole "too sensitive / paranoia" issue. OTOH it was in reaction to some also EXTREMELY serious problems. The same goes for the corporate world.

The democrats wouldn't be in such a mess if they weren't trying to hide the fact that they're corporate shills behind a facade of faux-populist agendas like bathroom issues. And while the answers to the many problems bearing down on us I think ultimately lie in our species doing things very differently from now, those answers don't resonate with many Americans. It would be nice if the democrats loosened the grip multinationals have on them, enough to come up with doable solutions that people could get behind.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"he gave me permission to touch him" - kid's still too young to give permission for anything, I used the wrong and highly-loaded phrase

I disagree.

We're not talking two adults having consensual sex. We're talking about an old man putting his hand on the shoulder of a boy. That boy would certainly be old enough to tell him that he did not have permission to do so. He would be old enough to tell him that the moment he could form the words. I see no reason why the equal and opposite wouldn't be true as well.

I guess my only hope would be that he knew that he would be a prop in a joke beforehand. Knowing what we know about the staged nature of rallies, and the screening processes beforehand, I suspect that he actually was and that none of this was off the cuff.

Quote:
You know, having worked for decades in an EXTREMELY PC place I understand the whole "too sensitive / paranoia" issue. OTOH it was in reaction to some also EXTREMELY serious problems. The same goes for the corporate world.

It was in reaction to some potentially mildly worrisome behavior, and allegations over nothing.

Quote:
The democrats wouldn't be in such a mess if they weren't trying to hide the fact that they're corporate shills behind a facade of faux-populist agendas like bathroom issues. And while the answers to the many problems bearing down on us I think ultimately lie in our species doing things very differently from now, those answers don't resonate with many Americans. It would be nice if the democrats loosened the grip multinationals have on them, enough to come up with doable solutions that people could get behind.

I agree with this last part.

I'd just add that if they hadn't been so rabid for years about PC/SJW issues, then their only current prayer of beating Trump wouldn't be on the threshold of crashing and burning before his campaign even begins.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"he gave me permission to touch him" - kid's still too young to give permission for anything, I used the wrong and highly-loaded phrase

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I disagree.

We're not talking two adults having consensual sex.

Which is why I withdrew that phrase.

Quote:
We're talking about an old man putting his hand on the shoulder of a boy. That boy would certainly be old enough to tell him that he did not have permission to do so. He would be old enough to tell him that the moment he could form the words. I see no reason why the equal and opposite wouldn't be true as well.

Well - legally the kid's not able to consent to anything. Not to a doctor looking down his throat, not to a class field trip, not to paying an overdue book library fine.

Quote:
I guess my only hope would be that he knew that he would be a prop in a joke beforehand. Knowing what we know about the staged nature of rallies, and the screening processes beforehand, I suspect that he actually was and that none of this was off the cuff.

Then his PARENTS needed to be in on it.

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
You know, having worked for decades in an EXTREMELY PC place I understand the whole "too sensitive / paranoia" issue. OTOH it was in reaction to some also EXTREMELY serious problems. The same goes for the corporate world.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It was in reaction to some potentially mildly worrisome behavior, and allegations over nothing.

Are you talking about MY previous workplace? How the fuck would YOU know? What a stupid thing to post.

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
The democrats wouldn't be in such a mess if they weren't trying to hide the fact that they're corporate shills behind a facade of faux-populist agendas like bathroom issues. And while the answers to the many problems bearing down on us I think ultimately lie in our species doing things very differently from now, those answers don't resonate with many Americans. It would be nice if the democrats loosened the grip multinationals have on them, enough to come up with doable solutions that people could get behind.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I agree with this last part.

I'd just add that if they hadn't been so rabid for years about PC/SJW issues

You mean like women being denied jobs because they wouldn't 'put-out'? Trivial stuff like that?

Quote:
then their only current prayer of beating Trump wouldn't be on the threshold of crashing and burning before his campaign even begins.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There are still many months to go. I hope the dems learned their 'Hillary' lesson and can address the issues the majority of people care about.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

"he gave me permission to touch him" - kid's still too young to give permission for anything, I used the wrong and highly-loaded phrase

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I disagree.

We're not talking two adults having consensual sex.

Quote:
Which is why I withdrew that phrase.

Okay.

Quote:
We're talking about an old man putting his hand on the shoulder of a boy. That boy would certainly be old enough to tell him that he did not have permission to do so. He would be old enough to tell him that the moment he could form the words. I see no reason why the equal and opposite wouldn't be true as well.

Quote:
Well - legally the kid's not able to consent to anything. Not to a doctor looking down his throat, not to a class field trip, not to paying an overdue book library fine.

Okay. Nobody can have absolutely any physical contact whatsoever with anybody under the age of 18 without express written permission from parents.

Got it.

Quote:
I guess my only hope would be that he knew that he would be a prop in a joke beforehand. Knowing what we know about the staged nature of rallies, and the screening processes beforehand, I suspect that he actually was and that none of this was off the cuff.

Quote:
Then his PARENTS needed to be in on it.

Show me a law that was broken. His parents don't have to be in on shit here.

And that's ignoring the probability that they were in on it. Staged rallies and all. Hot-button topic with Biden's campaign and all.

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
You know, having worked for decades in an EXTREMELY PC place I understand the whole "too sensitive / paranoia" issue. OTOH it was in reaction to some also EXTREMELY serious problems. The same goes for the corporate world.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It was in reaction to some potentially mildly worrisome behavior, and allegations over nothing.

Quote:
Are you talking about MY previous workplace? How the fuck would YOU know? What a stupid thing to post.

Retracted. I thought that YOU were talking about the Biden situation, past and present.

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
The democrats wouldn't be in such a mess if they weren't trying to hide the fact that they're corporate shills behind a facade of faux-populist agendas like bathroom issues. And while the answers to the many problems bearing down on us I think ultimately lie in our species doing things very differently from now, those answers don't resonate with many Americans. It would be nice if the democrats loosened the grip multinationals have on them, enough to come up with doable solutions that people could get behind.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I agree with this last part.

I'd just add that if they hadn't been so rabid for years about PC/SJW issues

Quote:
You mean like women being denied jobs because they wouldn't 'put-out'? Trivial stuff like that?

Fuck you. Don't be stupid.

Quote:
then their only current prayer of beating Trump wouldn't be on the threshold of crashing and burning before his campaign even begins.

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There are still many months to go. I hope the dems learned their 'Hillary' lesson and can address the issues the majority of people care about.

I don't think they have. You're barely considered a Democrat yourself and you're falling right in line with the SJW extremists on this issue.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:29 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/trump-approval-rating-hits-r
ecord-high-independents-surge-after-mueller-report

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 13, 2019 8:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/trump-approval-rating-hits-r
ecord-high-independents-surge-after-mueller-report

ooops.
Don't Trolls claim that ZH is not a source of news?

RUE

Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/trump-approval-rating-hits-r
ecord-high-independents-surge-after-mueller-report

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
ooops.
Don't Trolls claim that ZH is not a source of news?

The poll can be accessed by anyone willing to google. It doesn't matter the 'source'. But if you don't trust the pollsters, well, that's another story.

RUE

Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:00 AM

Six, you have issues.

Yes, it's true - nobody can touch a kid without the parent's consent or specific legal privileges (acting in loco parentis for example). Generally in families it's hugs all around, but parents are within their rights to tell a person to stay away. Anyone can photograph and publish the photo of a kid in a public space like at the beach (unless it's for child porn, though I'm not sure how you could determine that), but not in a private place where there's a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' (and even 'public' spaces like libraries fall in that category). When I'm talking about women having to 'put out' to get a job, you might consider that an unfair advantage if she gets the job instead of a guy (though I think that's a pretty twisted way to look at it). But I was thinking specifically of actresses - you know, unless you're living in ye olde tymes it's pretty hard to cast a male for a female. So these women who don't 'put out' are losing jobs to other females who do. And the actresses were clearly threatened that they'd be blacklisted and their careers ruined, a la Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino v Weinstein. I did wonder what happened to those two actresses. I thought they were terrific and their careers were just taking off ... then they disappeared. So as much as you're in denial, and claim that women aren't targeted, or that discrimination on the basis of sex doesn't happen anymore - well, you're wrong.

RUE

Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:14 AM

Getting back to Trump - I'm assuming he's running in 2020. But he's created a problem for democrats and 'never Trump'-ers who've become associated with supporting unfettered immigration, and with the Mueller investigation. Trump said the border was a problem. Now people are seeing that the mass of families seeking asylum is putting the system past its limit. A percentage of people I think will give Trump credit for calling out a problem and trying to fix it. Trump said the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt. And the Barr summary makes him look a lot more right than wrong. Again, a percentage of people I think will give Trump credit for calling it.

BTW these aren't *my* issues. In the upcoming election I only have two and immigration and Russiagate are not them. And I'm not defending Trump, but - given his recent big boost in approval ratings since the Barr summary, it looks like being on the wrong-er side of facts is going to be a problem for the DNC.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/trump-approval-rating-hits-r
ecord-high-independents-surge-after-mueller-report
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
ooops.
Don't Trolls claim that ZH is not a source of news?
The poll can be accessed by anyone willing to google. It doesn't matter the 'source'. But if you don't trust the pollsters, well, that's another story.

I think the Trolls claim that all News that is accessed by ZH is Fake News, regardless of original source, or validity.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Getting back to Trump - I'm assuming he's running in 2020. But he's created a problem for democrats and 'never Trump'-ers who've become associated with supporting unfettered immigration, and with the Mueller investigation. Trump said the border was a problem. Now people are seeing that the mass of families seeking asylum is putting the system past its limit. A percentage of people I think will give Trump credit for calling out a problem and trying to fix it. Trump said the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt. And the Barr summary makes him look a lot more right than wrong. Again, a percentage of people I think will give Trump credit for calling it.

BTW these aren't *my* issues. In the upcoming election I only have two and immigration and Russiagate are not them. And I'm not defending Trump, but - given his recent big boost in approval ratings since the Barr summary, it looks like being on the wrong-er side of facts is going to be a problem for the DNC.

Some older acquaintances have asked me what I think of Trump.
I tell them I didn't vote for him, and I'm not going to state my opinion.
However, I do think that Trump does an interestingly competent job of entertaining the voters. Maybe it is sleight of hand, but he uses tweeter to distract the MSM lemmings at certain times, and then the next few days we learn that his legislation got passed, a slew of Judges are swept through confirmation, he negotiated some trade deal, etc etc.
This is a problem for Libtards, because many people see him winning his way while Liberals whine endlessly and ineffectively.
Trump is also a problem for "unhip" type Republicans, as displayed the the Midterm Elections, because they don't have a tweeter presence to shadow his. Trump ignites social media retwits among Low Information Voters, who all slant any discussions, and Public Office Republicans are not around to bail out the listing, right the ship.
This drives Voter turnout for Low Information Voters (aka Democrats), even in a Midterm Election.
No evidence the GOP is addressing this.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:09 PM

Saw that tonight a late show had bracket chart for Democrat candidates.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

Six, you have issues.

Yes, it's true - nobody can touch a kid without the parent's consent or specific legal privileges (acting in loco parentis for example). Generally in families it's hugs all around, but parents are within their rights to tell a person to stay away. Anyone can photograph and publish the photo of a kid in a public space like at the beach (unless it's for child porn, though I'm not sure how you could determine that), but not in a private place where there's a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' (and even 'public' spaces like libraries fall in that category). When I'm talking about women having to 'put out' to get a job, you might consider that an unfair advantage if she gets the job instead of a guy (though I think that's a pretty twisted way to look at it). But I was thinking specifically of actresses - you know, unless you're living in ye olde tymes it's pretty hard to cast a male for a female. So these women who don't 'put out' are losing jobs to other females who do. And the actresses were clearly threatened that they'd be blacklisted and their careers ruined, a la Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino v Weinstein. I did wonder what happened to those two actresses. I thought they were terrific and their careers were just taking off ... then they disappeared. So as much as you're in denial, and claim that women aren't targeted, or that discrimination on the basis of sex doesn't happen anymore - well, you're wrong.

blah... blah... blah...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:02 PM

Yeah, SIX, you DO have a problem.

There is plenty of discrimination against males, I know. Many males ... perhaps most ... feel certain responsibilities that females usually don't: The responsibility to be personally and individually brave, the responsibility to take risks, the responsibility to do the hardest and sweatiest and most dangerous jobs.

However, just because there is a lack of recognition of the burdens and expectations placed on men doesn't mean that there isn't also discrimination against women.

It's like the positive and side effects of medicine: One doesn't cancel out the other.

There is discrimination of whites against blacks. There is ALSO discrimination of blacks against whites. They can both occur at the same time.

There is discrimination against straight Christian white males in particular, who don't fall into that otherwise-inclusive category of "protected class" (I guess straight white Xtian males don't deserve protection against discrimination and harassment?). BUT STILL, there is ALSO discrimination against women.

You've got this big giant blind spot in an otherwise mostly reasonable POV.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
... And I'm not defending Trump, but ...

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

There is plenty of discrimination against males, I know. Many males ... perhaps most ... feel certain responsibilities that females usually don't: The responsibility to be personally and individually brave, the responsibility to take risks, the responsibility to do the hardest and sweatiest and most dangerous jobs.

the sh*t you post

keep it comin'!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, SIX, you DO have a problem.

There is plenty of discrimination against males, I know. Many males ... perhaps most ... feel certain responsibilities that females usually don't: The responsibility to be personally and individually brave, the responsibility to take risks, the responsibility to do the hardest and sweatiest and most dangerous jobs.

However, just because there is a lack of recognition of the burdens and expectations placed on men doesn't mean that there isn't also discrimination against women.

It's like the positive and side effects of medicine: One doesn't cancel out the other.

There is discrimination of whites against blacks. There is ALSO discrimination of blacks against whites. They can both occur at the same time.

There is discrimination against straight Christian white males in particular, who don't fall into that otherwise-inclusive category of "protected class" (I guess straight white Xtian males don't deserve protection against discrimination and harassment?). BUT STILL, there is ALSO discrimination against women.

You've got this big giant blind spot in an otherwise mostly reasonable POV.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

blah... blah... blah...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:03 AM

updated list of major candidate
https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_registered_2020_presidential_candidate
s

but note that ballotpedia indicates there are "227 Democratic candidates, 84 Republican candidates, 24 Libertarian candidates, and 14 Green candidates" total.

Cory Booker (D), a U.S. senator from New Jersey, announced that he was running for president on February 1, 2019.[3]

Pete Buttigieg (D), the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, announced that he was running for president on January 23, 2019.[4]

Julian Castro (D), a former U.S. secretary of housing and urban development and San Antonio mayor, formally announced his candidacy on January 12, 2019.[5]

John Delaney (D), a former U.S. representative from Maryland, filed to run for president on August 10, 2017.

Tulsi Gabbard (D), a U.S. representative from Hawaii, announced that she had decided to run for president on January 11, 2019.[6]

Kirsten Gillibrand (D), a U.S. senator from New York, announced that she was forming an exploratory committee on January 15, 2019.[7] She officially announced she was running on March 17, 2019.[8]

Mike Gravel (D), a former U.S. senator from Alaska, announced he was running for president on April 2, 2019.[9]

Kamala Harris (D), a U.S. senator from California, announced that she was running for president on January 21, 2019.[10]

John Hickenlooper (D), a former governor of Colorado, announced that he was running for president on March 4, 2019.[11]

Jay Inslee (D), the governor of Washington, announced that he was running for president on March 1, 2019.[12]

Amy Klobuchar (D), a U.S. senator from Minnesota, formally announced she was running for president on February 10, 2019.[13]

Wayne Messam (D), the mayor of Miramar, Florida, announced he was forming an exploratory committee on March 13, 2019.[14]

Beto O'Rourke (D), former U.S. representative from Texas, formally announced he was running for president on March 14, 2019.[15]

Tim Ryan (D), a U.S. representative from Ohio, announced he was running for president on April 4, 2019.[16]

Bernie Sanders (I), a U.S. senator from Vermont, announced that he was running for president on February 19, 2019.[17]

Eric Swalwell (D), a U.S. representative from California, announced that he was running for president on April 9, 2019.

President Donald Trump (R) filed to run for re-election in 2020 on January 20, 2017.

Elizabeth Warren (D), U.S. senator from Massachusetts, announced she had formed an exploratory committee on December 31, 2018.[18] She formally announced she was running for president on February 9, 2019.

Bill Weld (R), a former governor of Massachusetts, announced that he was running for president on April 15, 2019.[19]

Marianne Williamson (D), an author and lecturer, announced she was running for president on January 28, 2019.[20]

Andrew Yang (D), an entrepreneur and author from New York, filed to run for president on November 6, 2017.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:15 AM

349 candidates!?!?!

No wonder I haven't been able to keep up.

Thanks for the update.

I do still feel bad that I haven't made better progress trying to keep up.

Maybe I will try to find all 349 and list them. Jeez.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, April 17, 2019 2:35 AM

Let's see if this works:

This table lists candidates who have filed with the FEC to run for president. Some applicants use pseudonyms; candidate names and party affiliations are written as they appear on the FEC website.

As of April 15, 2019, there are 671 candidates who filed to run, including:[60]

227 Democratic candidates
84 Republican candidates
24 Libertarian candidates
14 Green candidates

Candidates who have filed for the 2020 presidential election
Candidate Party
Aaron Fraser Democratic Party
Adam Kokesh Libertarian Party
Adam Seaman Nonpartisan
Adrian J. Cox Democratic Party
Ajay Sood Independent
Akiva Leffert Democratic Party
Alan Augustson Nonpartisan
Alan Gordon Independent
Alan Howe Democratic Party
Albert James Felix Liberal Party
Alex Lloyd Gross Independent
Alexander Dewey Fox Nonpartisan
Alexandria Tate Republican Party
Aliaune Thiam Republican Party
Alicia Barbine Independent
Alonzo Tablet Martin Sr. Republican Party
Aloysius R. Marcinek Independent
Alvin Harrison Democratic Party
Amy Klobuchar Democratic Party
Andre Nantkes Republican Party
Andre Pele Jordan Nonpartisan
Andre Phillip Green Democratic Party
Andrew Heartdoc Chung Nonpartisan
Andrew Lee Hicks Nonpartisan
Andrew Locklin Barringer Republican Party
Andrew Wildman Independent
Andrew Yang Democratic Party
Angela Glass Independent
Angela Marie Walls-Windhauser Republican Party
Angelo Yoshannah Scrigna Independent
Anita Belle Democratic Party
Anthony Alongi Nonpartisan
Anthony D. Beckwith Unaffiliated
Anthony DeWayne Hill Democratic Party
Anthony Gaetano Bernice Independent American Party
Anthony James Allred Democratic Party
Anthony Kevin Moss Jr. Independent
Anthony M. Piazza Democratic Party
Antonio McGee Nonpartisan
Arnold Matthew Jones Democratic Party
Artemus Suarez Cohen Eden Independent
Asuka Otori Independence Party
Austin Pack Independent
Avital Hadas Oberstein The Human Rights Party
Baruch Margolis Unaffiliated
Batso B. El Sr. Independent
Bella Robinson Independent
Benjamin G. Leder Libertarian Party
Benjamin Marc Elias Unaffiliated
Benjamin Michael Osborn Conservative Party
Benjamin Peter Kozlowski Democratic Party
Bepis Cola Prohibition Party
Bernard Korn Democratic Party
Bernie Sanders Democratic Party
Beto O'Rourke Democratic Party
Bill Haas Democratic Party
Billy Rubin Independent
Blaine Russell Lechko Democratic Party
Bowen Lee Parker Nonpartisan
Bradley S. King Unaffiliated
Bradley Scott Hartliep Republican Party
Brandon Cekander Independent
Brandon W. Acker Democratic Party
Brent Jay Natzle Republican Party
Bret Marzock Independent
Brett Henderson Nonpartisan
Brian Padrick Drake Nonpartisan
Brian R. Curro Independent
Bring Back Daniel Jewish/Christian National Party
Bruce John Kenneway Nonpartisan
Bryan Lawler Nonpartisan
Caleb Ganzer Democratic Party
Caleb Gaul Democratic Party
Candace Marie Bates Avina Nonpartisan
Carlos Antonio Alcantara Nonpartisan
Carrie Bittay-D'intino Democratic Party
Carroll Montague Price Jr. Democratic Party
Catherine Anne Forsman Democratic Party
Caylend Anthony Edward Childs Democratic Party
Cecelia Sanborn Nonpartisan
Cecil Albert Richardson Republican Party
Cecil Anthony Southwest Ince Libertarian Party
Cecilia Okugo Democratic Party
Cesar Cisneros Republican Party
Chad Michael Jorgenson Independent
Chance Trahan Nonpartisan
Charles Edward Mills Nonpartisan
Charles Junior Hodge Independent
Charles Kovacs Nonpartisan
Charles Landon Hodges Democratic Party
Charles Richard Ranslem Nonpartisan
Cherunda Lynn Fox Independent
Chiyo Mihama Communist Party
Chomi Prag Nonpartisan
Christian Alexander Arzu Democratic Party
Christin Noel Powers Independent
Christina Gerasimos Billings-Elias Democratic Party
Christina Marie Cabral Independent American Party
Christine Weston Chandler U.S. Taxpayers
Christopher Brainard Republican Party
Christopher Christian Watkins In

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:10 AM

Which of these is considered the "Centrist" this time around, ready to railroad Bernie to the gutter?

RUE

Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Which of these is considered the "Centrist" this time around, ready to railroad Bernie to the gutter?

IDK. But I think we're already seeing the party* (*you call that a par-tay?) line with Pelosi. Without Hillary to crystallize on, I guess we'll just have to wait and see who the DNC picks. My guess is it's one of the pro-Israel pro-military candidates. or at the very least, one without any anti-military baggage, so they can go on with business as usual, assuming they win.

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