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POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Thursday, February 7, 2019 06:37
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This movie totally belongs to Dick Cheney, it's all about the Vice president and the inner workings of politics in Washington....well, sort of.
For those of you who are afraid of the facts, skip this movie. No seriously.
For movie buffs, brace yourself, this is no walk in the park. It does NOT color by numbers, nor does it stay inside the lines. It is funny, it is irreverent, it starts and stops, but it is never boring. It is timely and current. I could see why, by the end of the movie, why it was nominated for best picture.
Christian Bale and Amy Adams have a chemistry that is unmistakable. Both have been nominated for Best Actor in the Golden Globes, but this film belonged to Bale without question. He WAS Cheney. He was superb and carried this movie on his back. My feeling is he'll be going up against Cooper and Mortensen in the
Oscars. The film followed his life from a country bumpkin drunkard to the White House. Only in America. But the film had a lot going for it, a lot more than your average political biopic. It had humor, satire, some biographic detail, narration and Shakespeare (you'll see). Like I said - never boring.
It covers his life from humble beginnings in the 60s to present day. It even covers 9/11 and the aftermath. Is it "liberal?" - you betcha.
No, wait a minute; it does briefly cover his run for office, the behind the scenes manipulations with the Bushes, also what went on behind closed doors in the White House, and the inevitable shenanigans during, before and after Iraq. Even his relationship with Dubya. So yeah, totally "liberal" but definitely hilarious and worth every penny. It is riveting and "avant garde" by not exactly following the rules of filmmaking, adding asides and flashes of brilliant commentary within the structure of the film. In other words, it deserves the Best Picture nomination it received from the Golden Globes.
My guess is that it will be so honored come Oscar time.
So yeah, you Republicans will not like this movie. So I am doing my civic duty
by telling you - "stay away" do not pass go, do not collect $200. Just you wait until some filmmaker genius comes along and puts together a film about
Trump. My one wish is that Adam McKay decides to tackle that little task, then you'll see some kick ass political satire starring, you guessed it - Alec Baldwin. Now wouldn't that be something.
SGG
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Why am I afraid that 2018 liberals could actually make me sympathize with that monster after reading your review.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:This Fake Film portrays him as residing in the White House?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This movie totally belongs to Dick Cheney, it's all about the Vice president and the inner workings of politics in Washington....well, sort of.
For those of you who are afraid of the facts, skip this movie. No seriously.
For movie buffs, brace yourself, this is no walk in the park. It does NOT color by numbers, nor does it stay inside the lines. It is funny, it is irreverent, it starts and stops, but it is never boring. It is timely and current. I could see why, by the end of the movie, why it was nominated for best picture.
Christian Bale and Amy Adams have a chemistry that is unmistakable. Both have been nominated for Best Actor in the Golden Globes, but this film belonged to Bale without question. He WAS Cheney. He was superb and carried this movie on his back. My feeling is he'll be going up against Cooper and Mortensen in the
Oscars. The film followed his life from a country bumpkin drunkard to the White House. Only in America. But the film had a lot going for it, a lot more than your average political biopic. It had humor, satire, some biographic detail, narration and Shakespeare (you'll see). Like I said - never boring.
It covers his life from humble beginnings in the 60s to present day. It even covers 9/11 and the aftermath. Is it "liberal?" - you betcha.
No, wait a minute; it does briefly cover his run for office, the behind the scenes manipulations with the Bushes, also what went on behind closed doors in the White House, and the inevitable shenanigans during, before and after Iraq. Even his relationship with Dubya. So yeah, totally "liberal" but definitely hilarious and worth every penny. It is riveting and "avant garde" by not exactly following the rules of filmmaking, adding asides and flashes of brilliant commentary within the structure of the film. In other words, it deserves the Best Picture nomination it received from the Golden Globes.
My guess is that it will be so honored come Oscar time.
So yeah, you Republicans will not like this movie. So I am doing my civic duty
by telling you - "stay away" do not pass go, do not collect $200. Just you wait until some filmmaker genius comes along and puts together a film about
Trump. My one wish is that Adam McKay decides to tackle that little task, then you'll see some kick ass political satire starring, you guessed it - Alec Baldwin. Now wouldn't that be something.
SGG
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Sympathize with Cheney? Really!? You got that from my review. Hmph, I don't get that, but then I'm commenting based upon my take of how I think you guys may react. I need to read my review to see of I give off that impression, it was not my initial intention.
After re-reading my review, like I said, I don't get it. Could you elaborate?
What makes you think that the film "sympathizes" with Cheney? Let me give you this: I put "liberal" in quotes because that's how I feel you guys would react
about how he's portrayed in this movie, plus that they use facts (and some
"poetic" license in how they present those facts). In other words they don't
just regurgitate a bunch of known facts and present a biography recounting
the pure nastiness of the man and his wife.
I only ask because I want to know how you came to that conclusion.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why am I afraid that 2018 liberals could actually make me sympathize with that monster after reading your review.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I was going to say something clever and rude, ya know, like you usually do. But I have better things to do. Jewels, you're slipping.
Where, in all my review, does it say Cheney lived in the White House?
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:This Fake Film portrays him as residing in the White House?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This movie totally belongs to Dick Cheney, it's all about the Vice president and the inner workings of politics in Washington....well, sort of.
For those of you who are afraid of the facts, skip this movie. No seriously.
For movie buffs, brace yourself, this is no walk in the park. It does NOT color by numbers, nor does it stay inside the lines. It is funny, it is irreverent, it starts and stops, but it is never boring. It is timely and current. I could see why, by the end of the movie, why it was nominated for best picture.
Christian Bale and Amy Adams have a chemistry that is unmistakable. Both have been nominated for Best Actor in the Golden Globes, but this film belonged to Bale without question. He WAS Cheney. He was superb and carried this movie on his back. My feeling is he'll be going up against Cooper and Mortensen in the
Oscars. The film followed his life from a country bumpkin drunkard to the White House. Only in America. But the film had a lot going for it, a lot more than your average political biopic. It had humor, satire, some biographic detail, narration and Shakespeare (you'll see). Like I said - never boring.
It covers his life from humble beginnings in the 60s to present day. It even covers 9/11 and the aftermath. Is it "liberal?" - you betcha.
No, wait a minute; it does briefly cover his run for office, the behind the scenes manipulations with the Bushes, also what went on behind closed doors in the White House, and the inevitable shenanigans during, before and after Iraq. Even his relationship with Dubya. So yeah, totally "liberal" but definitely hilarious and worth every penny. It is riveting and "avant garde" by not exactly following the rules of filmmaking, adding asides and flashes of brilliant commentary within the structure of the film. In other words, it deserves the Best Picture nomination it received from the Golden Globes.
My guess is that it will be so honored come Oscar time.
So yeah, you Republicans will not like this movie. So I am doing my civic duty
by telling you - "stay away" do not pass go, do not collect $200. Just you wait until some filmmaker genius comes along and puts together a film about
Trump. My one wish is that Adam McKay decides to tackle that little task, then you'll see some kick ass political satire starring, you guessed it - Alec Baldwin. Now wouldn't that be something.
SGG
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I'm certainly not a liberal, but I know that automatically qualifies me as a Republican in your eyes.
However, I have a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG history here and I had A LOT of bad things to say about both Bush and Cheney for many years before Obama got in office (when I largely disappeared from this site except for my drunken ramblings and music video posting). I've never said that I was one or the other, but I certainly leaned much further left when W. was in office. I regularly referred to the right back then as "Rethuglicans" here.
Cheney was a monster. There is no doubt about that.
But the left has gone off the reservation over the last decade. It wouldn't surprise me if this movie about Cheney had more to do with Trump then it does either Cheney or W. That's how bad your Trump Derangement Syndrome has gotten. I'm just waiting for the reviews from sites like Vox and Mother Jones to talk about all the parallels to the current administration.
As for your particular review, it reeked of smarmy douche. Like watching 5 minutes of any of the idiots on late night TV today, or reading any of T's posts in the RWED.
Don't feel bad though. I wasn't going to waste my time with this movie anyhow. I already know what a sack of shit Cheney was and don't need to go pay to see a movie to remind me.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Sympathize with Cheney? Really!? You got that from my review. Hmph, I don't get that, but then I'm commenting based upon my take of how I think you guys may react. I need to read my review to see of I give off that impression, it was not my initial intention.
After re-reading my review, like I said, I don't get it. Could you elaborate?
What makes you think that the film "sympathizes" with Cheney? Let me give you this: I put "liberal" in quotes because that's how I feel you guys would react
about how he's portrayed in this movie, plus that they use facts (and some
"poetic" license in how they present those facts). In other words they don't
just regurgitate a bunch of known facts and present a biography recounting
the pure nastiness of the man and his wife.
I only ask because I want to know how you came to that conclusion.
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why am I afraid that 2018 liberals could actually make me sympathize with that monster after reading your review.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm certainly not a liberal, but I know that automatically qualifies me as a Republican in your eyes.
I really don't give a shit about what you think I think of you, but I do not assume that you're a republican, Democrat or Independent. I always go by your
comments and responses here, so there's that.
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However, I have a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG history here and I had A LOT of bad things to say about both Bush and Cheney for many years before Obama got in office (when I largely disappeared from this site except for my drunken ramblings and music video posting). I've never said that I was one or the other, but I certainly leaned much further left when W. was in office. I regularly referred to the right back then as "Rethuglicans" here.
If you say so, I really don't know and I try to go by your (and others) most recent comments and responses. You are entitled to be whatever you want, last time I looked, it's a free country. But it tickles me that you have this response to something I posted that was addressed to no one in particular.
You seem to be offended by my remarks, it's curious that you think I'm "speaking" to you directly, when my comments are general in nature.
I wrote with a particular slant, that much is evident, but it was a take within the film that had hilarious results and I took that and ran with it.
There was a scene that spoke to that directly and had a similar reaction
to yours. Funny how that works sometimes.
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Cheney was a monster. There is no doubt about that.
Agreed. And that was the film's take as well.
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But the left has gone off the reservation over the last decade.
I'm not sure what it is your referring to, but my guess is it has something to do with the whole McCain thing. I'm not going to make any further comments on that. I'm just making an observation.
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It wouldn't surprise me if this movie about Cheney had more to do with Trump then it does either Cheney or W. That's how bad your Trump Derangement Syndrome has gotten. I'm just waiting for the reviews from sites like Vox and Mother Jones to talk about all the parallels to the current administration.
What if it did. So the fuck what! There are parallels as to the corruption of the presidency, but you know, wait to hear from Vox and Mother Jones.
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As for your particular review, it reeked of smarmy douche. Like watching 5 minutes of any of the idiots on late night TV today, or reading any of T's posts in the RWED.
"smarmy douche" HA! Your comments really tickle me. You are really taking this personal, aren't you? I noticed that whenever I remark on that fucking scumbag
Trump, you have a rather strong reaction. Just an observation dude, nothing to get hung about. Late night TV hosts, well now, isn't that special. So you watch them!
Just so you know, writers/journalists write with a particular angle, something that will bring across a point of view that will make for interesting reading.
"smarmy douche" - yeah, that sounds about right. I must admit I never would have thought of it in those terms, but that's what makes the world go 'round.
As for you and your "douchie" comments it doesn't surprise me; since yours
runs from "asshole" to "asinine." Yours are very revealing and firmly entrenched in hyperbole; more of your "comments" are welcomed.
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Don't feel bad though.
Certainly, never crossed my mind.
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I wasn't going to waste my time with this movie anyhow.
I knew this already, based upon your recent brown-dirt "comments" regarding Hollywood.
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I already know what a sack of shit Cheney was and don't need to go pay to see a movie to remind me.
Your typical response, how refreshing!
P.S. You still haven't told me why you came to that conclusion.
SGG
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You posted it the way you did at a site that has about a dozen regular members. This isn't Rotten Tomatoes.
You knew very well who your audience was when you posted it and exactly who you were talking to when you did. Everybody else who took the time to read your review, whether they replied or not, knew exactly who you were talking to as well. You just called me a dickweed the other day in the RWED for not agreeing with you. This isn't a huge mystery. No need to call Scooby Doo. I already solved the case.
By all means. Please revel in the fact that you're being a smarmy douche like your late night "comedy" idols. They truly are excellent role models, what with jokes like our president being Putin's "cock holster".
I do hope when people look back at this point in history they realize just how terrible the left became.
That's only going to happen if sane minds come together in the Center and start reigning the people back in from the extremes.
Here's hoping.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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You posted it the way you did at a site that has about a dozen regular members. This isn't Rotten Tomatoes.
Of course, I know this isn't RT dickhead, do you? You've already reached the stage of asshole...I don't think you can go any lower. Shithead maybe, IDK!
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You knew very well who your audience was when you posted it and exactly who you were talking to when you did. Everybody else who took the time to read your review, whether they replied or not, knew exactly who you were talking to as well.
Your point being....so then you don't write your comments with particular people in mind, and you partner up with the worst offenders on this site in RWED. Your beloved "friends" who ridiculed and bullied you, calling you drunkard (although that doesn't mean shit because anyone who doesn't see things their way they attempt to insult and ridicule by saying that they're
drunk, mentally ill or on drugs), so now you've taken up with them.
Although, I have to say, you did manage to stay on the fence for quite some
time; you should call Guinness, there may be a world record in it for you.
But you did declare yourself, so now it's official (what I knew all along, it was just a matter of time). Trouble is none of what you say matters much, it's
all been said. Like water off a duck's back...and that goes for your friends
as well. So, do your worst. I laugh, I parry and thrust thusly.
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You just called me a dickweed the other day in the RWED for not agreeing with you. This isn't a huge mystery. No need to call Scooby Doo. I already solved the case.
Indeed, so then "smarmy douche" that means what exactly...plus other "names" and insults you and your comrades hurl at me. I put you and them in the same
bucket of slime. But then I expect nothing but the dregs of humankind when it comes to you and your pals. So, I'm not surprised in the least.
In the past we didn't agree, and we would leave with a modicum of respect; without scummy insults and degrading comments. But something happened (maybe
your comrades got to you, who knows), and here we are, hurling epithets.
And so it goes. That's life.
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By all means. Please revel in the fact that you're being a smarmy douche like your late night "comedy" idols. They truly are excellent role models, what with jokes like our president being Putin's "cock holster".
Please stop it, I'm already laughing too hard. Comedy idols indeed, Ha!
You don't know shit. And yes, "your" president is a cock holster for
Putin (another scumbag). That's not a joke! Him and the Saudi prince of skeeves! What role models!
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I do hope when people look back at this point in history they realize just how terrible the left became.
Whatever the left is nowadays; they're finally giving as good as they get...
and for that they get shit from the "douches" of the "alt-right." Wow, what
a fucking joke. Both sides don't know shit about shit...what's going on today
is total bullshit. Ask your friend Kiki...she knows the deal.
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That's only going to happen if sane minds come together in the Center and start reigning the people back in from the extremes.
Well, that it gonna happen by using your brethren's methods...I could tell
you that.
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Here's hoping.
I'll believe it when I see it from...........
SGG
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I never called you a drunk, and I certainly didn't ever poke fun at you about it. That would be HUGELY hypocritical on my part.
I don't go around calling you names randomly for disagreeing with me, as all of your "friends" here on this site do all the time... Whether it's Nazi or Comrade, or idiot or dummy. I've called you out on it 3 or 4 times now when you've done it to me, and you usually backpedal and apologize for it.
I'm getting quite tired of having to do that though, so I haven't bothered the last several insults you've thrown my way.
But yeah... you wrote this as though you were emulating one of the late night smarmy douches... and then you seemed to revel in that idea when I brought it up. This seems to be the style of comedy you prefer these days, and that being the case I don't believe I'd find any enjoyment. I'm actually afraid that watching this movie would make me sympathize with a monster because of how it was written and directed based off of your review.
So you can keep being a dick to me if you want to. That's on you.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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