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Fascistic immigration policy continues to kill kids

POSTED BY: reaverfan
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Sunday, December 30, 2018 2:28 AM

Seeking asylum is not an illegal invasion. It's perfectly legal.

You're just a low-information Nazi dupe. The kind they recruit: Ignorant, hateful, a failure in life with no friends, and looking for some way to blame his failure on "them."

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Sunday, December 30, 2018 3:04 AM

Seeking asylum for economic reasons is not a recognized reason for asylum.

If they cross the border for this reason, then it is considered an act of invasion.

These people were invaders.

Read a book.

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Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
The mother of Felipe Gómez Alonzo, the 8-year-old Guatemalan boy who died while in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, has spoken out about her son’s death. This is Catarina Alonzo.

Catarina Alonzo: “It was a surprise when my husband said that my son died. When I said goodbye to him, he was healthy. But then my husband said he died peacefully. They left because of poverty. My husband called me from Mexico. He said that they had no problem and they were well.”

Gómez Alonzo, who died on Christmas Eve after becoming ill and feverish while detained at a highway checkpoint with his father, is the second child to die in U.S. Border Patrol custody this month. A 7-year-old indigenous Guatemalan girl, Jakelin Caal Maquín, died on December 8, two days after she and her father presented themselves at the border in a bid for asylum.

A recent report by the Center for Migration Studies found that immigration officials systematically and disproportionately deny medical assistance to migrants who speak indigenous languages. Both Jakelin Caal Maquín and Felipe Gómez Alonzo came from indigenous communities in Guatemala.
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/12/28/headlines/mother_of_migrant_bo
y_who_died_in_us_custody_speaks_out

The boy was healthy when he left, but 1200 rigorous miles and five weeks of being exposed to sick people and he got sick. Jeez!!! WHOODA THUNK?

As far as the indigenous peoples problem... do you suppose the issue is that nobody understands the language?? Jeez! WHOODA THUNK?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, December 30, 2018 4:44 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The boy was healthy when he left, but 1200 rigorous miles and five weeks of being exposed to sick people and he got sick. Jeez!!! WHOODA THUNK?

As far as the indigenous peoples problem... do you suppose the issue is that nobody understands the language?? Jeez! WHOODA THUNK?

Signym, over the years you’ve gotten less supportive of Trump, yet when he gets into trouble, there you are, Signym, explaining why deaths caused by his policies are not his fault. But he can make excuses much better than you ever could:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Any deaths of children or others at the Border are strictly the fault of the Democrats and their pathetic immigration policies that allow people to make the long trek thinking they can enter our country illegally. They can’t. If we had a Wall, they wouldn’t even try! The two … children in question were very sick before they were given over to Border Patrol. The father of the young girl said it was not their fault, he hadn’t given her water in days. Border Patrol needs the Wall and it will all end. They are working so hard & getting so little credit!
10:30 AM - 29 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1079082188665171971
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1079083702943211520

I think I can do better than Signym or Trump, if he would let me tweet for him:

“Any deaths of the children I've kidnapped are strictly the fault of parents who didn’t pay the ransom.” says Donald Trump.

“The nagging feeling I keep having is that when this is all over, people are somehow going to find a way to blame me — of all people! — for kidnapping a bunch of kids, locking them in cages, and threatening to kill them unless someone gives me a duffel bag containing five billion dollars. If you won’t pay me that right away so I can use it to build a giant steel monument to racism, what kind of a monster are you?”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076239448461987841

“I’ve seen some people on the internet claiming that if I really loved children so much, I wouldn’t have sent any of them home in boxes. This is offensive, wrong, and deeply hurtful to me. None of this would have happened if it weren’t for the Democrats, and I refuse to be shamed for someone else’s mistakes. The worst thing you can say about me is that I love children not wisely, but too well: I love them so much that I wanted to send a message to the parents of the other children locked in my basement, and even the parents of children who are not yet in my basement, in hopes they would listen to their consciences, do the right thing, and pay me $5 billion before I kill any more children.”

I think that was a pretty good job I did defending Trump’s border policy consequences.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 30, 2018 7:32 PM

SECOND- Keeping you on "ignore" because you're STILL lying about my POV.

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Sunday, December 30, 2018 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND- Keeping you on "ignore" because you're STILL lying about my POV.

Signym, I don't think you completely understand the concept of "ignore". For example: to "ignore" phone calls means don't answer, don't pick up to say "Liar!" or, if you are Trump, falsely accuse Democrats of supporting "open borders" over 60 times (Democratic lawmakers support border security, but not his border wall).
www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/fast-check-donald-trump-democra
ts-open-borders.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:24 PM

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Any deaths of children or others at the Border are strictly the fault of the Democrats and their pathetic immigration policies that allow people to make the long trek thinking they can enter our country illegally. They can’t. If we had a Wall, they wouldn’t even try! The two … children in question were very sick before they were given over to Border Patrol. The father of the young girl said it was not their fault, he hadn’t given her water in days. Border Patrol needs the Wall and it will all end. They are working so hard & getting so little credit!



My only argument to this is that the wall is somehow magically going to make this all stop 100%. It won't.

I don't feel that these parents intentionally killed their kids. They were ignorant of the laws. Mainly because the MSM propagates disinformation regarding asylum.

This is a story of a woman who was allegedly beaten by her husband, and a poor man who thought they could flee their shitty lives and come to America with their kids. They can't. They never could. They did not fit the very narrow criteria. They never did.



These kids would not have died because the parents would never have tried if Democrats and Republicans were actually serious about border security and these three things were happening already:

1. No money, education or healthcare given to non-citizens and their children.

2. No paychecks for wages for anybody without a social security number as well as the heaviest fines imaginable to anybody caught paying illegals under the table.

3. The MSM doesn't hide either of these policies, and it doesn't lie to would-be illegal invaders about what qualifies as a refugee.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, December 31, 2018 12:47 AM

About that Wall of Trump's?

As the #TrumpShutdown continues, and families feel the pain, remember 100 senators voted to keep government open. 100-0. A perfectly bipartisan vote. When the hell does that ever happen? @realDonaldTrump is not only on the wrong side of history, he’s on the wrong side of math.
9:59 AM - 30 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1079436744800514048

Why doesn't 100 Senators override a veto? Shouldn't 100-0 compel any President to Sign the Bill?

It would, but the House of Representatives wouldn't put it to a vote and so put Donald on the spot. Instead, the House "Freedom Caucus" takes the Senate's 100-0 bill and tacked on $5 billion. It went back to the Senate and in that form was voted down.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 31, 2018 1:15 AM

So Congress DIDN'T pass the budget, like you claimed earlier. At least you've gotten one thing right - after getting it wrong.




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Monday, December 31, 2018 1:55 AM

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Originally posted by second:
About that Wall of Trump's?

As the #TrumpShutdown continues, and families feel the pain, remember 100 senators voted to keep government open. 100-0. A perfectly bipartisan vote. When the hell does that ever happen? @realDonaldTrump is not only on the wrong side of history, he’s on the wrong side of math.
9:59 AM - 30 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1079436744800514048

Why doesn't 100 Senators override a veto? Shouldn't 100-0 compel any President to Sign the Bill?

It would, but the House of Representatives wouldn't put it to a vote and so put Donald on the spot. Instead, the House "Freedom Caucus" takes the Senate's 100-0 bill and tacked on $5 billion. It went back to the Senate and in that form was voted down.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Congress regularly has an approval rating below 10%.



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